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[Q] OTA after root possible?

Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!

abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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Yes and no. If you stick with a stock ROM, you'll be able to download the OTAs/get notified about them. However, if you use ClockworkMod Recovery (which you really should) you won't be able to install the OTA. Well, it'll try but, it'll fail. The best bet is to be patient and one of the devs will release their versions of the new ROM.

abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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It might depend which method you used to root, but I doubt it. I did the rooting via the 'pure root' method and I receive the notifications.
Since I just backed up after updating to 8.5.5.6, I decided to see what happened if I clicked on the upgrade nag notification, and all it did was say that it cancelled it, and does not nag me now.
I have no clue if it'll do the same for everyone. We all follow a lot of paths to generally the same place in rooting, so not sure. I did have an HTC incredible actually unroot itself via an update notification, so I removed the OTA Certification services.

Well, thanks to both of you for the clarification!

Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?

abprie said:
Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?
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Yes. Just go into /system/app/ and delete superuser.apk. Just note that when you have root, you can't change a lot of the system files otherwise there will be problems with the OTA.
I would personally just rock custom ROMs. They get updated fast to the latest OTA. But that's just me.

[Q] root question

Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?

MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it

Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?

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MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.

Jackos said:
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...

I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?

MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?

Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?

to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it

Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.

[Q] Upgrade to lollipop

I know there's still speculation about whether we're even getting the images today, but I want to be prepared.
I'm wondering about the best way for me to upgrade to lollipop. I've been searching the Internet all morning but I've been getting conflicting answers, so I want to clarify once and for all here...
I'm currently running kitkat 4.4.4 with the bootloader unlocked, clockworkmod installed, and root access gained. I'd like to avoid using toolkits if possible, and I'd hopefully like to avoid wiping all my data. I don't mind rerooting if I lose root, since that should be easy enough on a nexus device. I've read that rooted phones won't get an ota update, which is fine because I'd rather get it sooner than that anyways from Google's developer download page. I've also read that an upgrade from kitkat to lollipop definitely requires a wipe, but I figure there has to be a way around that. Can I use adb or fastboot? Or clockworkmod? Will these wipe the device? What are my options?
Thanks so much!

if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted version, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!

simms22 said:
if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted versiin, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!
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I'll write a thread tonight.

Please use the dedicated android L thread
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Is being rooted going to be a problem when taking the OTA Lollipop update?

I'm asking for my girlfriend. I have the T-Mobile variant with a custom recovery and I know not to take an OTA because custom recoveries and OTAs don't mix. She, however, has an AT&T variant and she just told me she was prompted to update to Lollipop. She rooted long ago with whatever root for AT&T app was popular at the time.
Doesn't taking an OTA just make you lose root? Nothing else to worry about?

I would not recommend due to the chance it could boot loop. I would wait for a OTA zip and flash through TWRP.

If she is rooted it will break root, If she has a custom recovery (twrp) than it will cause a boot loop.
advice: if she wants lollipop she's gonna have to follow these steps.
http://www.androidrootz.com/2014/07/how-to-unroot-lg-g3-all-variants.html

Going to pass the link on to her now.
There is no custom recovery. She used Stump Root originally to get her phone route, if that makes any difference.

martinezma99 said:
I would not recommend due to the chance it could boot loop. I would wait for a OTA zip and flash through TWRP.
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Is there an ota zip available for the D850. I froze software updates in titanium backup so I won't loose root.

SGE_DEW said:
Is there an ota zip available for the D850. I froze software updates in titanium backup so I won't loose root.
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You would still lose root
2SHAYNEZ

Yep.. I went through the whole process of going completely back to stock and then rooted before updating to Lollipop hoping it would stay. It didn't and Stump Root says it's already rooted.

Thanks for this cool tool and method. The LGFlashtool gets up the 'Change to download mode' step adn then fails, with a '[16:10:26] can't change to download mode 00000064' error in the box. Any help would be appreciated. In the meantime I'll try another usb port. Also, when I first ran the Flashtool I had to select from three choices: the default checked off one had the word Korea in it, the second had Brazil and the third had the word Global. I left in on Korea--you think I should have gone with global?
Thanks again, Xamadiex.

Rayvin56 said:
Thanks for this cool tool and method. The LGFlashtool gets up the 'Change to download mode' step adn then fails, with a '[16:10:26] can't change to download mode 00000064' error in the box. Any help would be appreciated. In the meantime I'll try another usb port. Also, when I first ran the Flashtool I had to select from three choices: the default checked off one had the word Korea in it, the second had Brazil and the third had the word Global. I left in on Korea--you think I should have gone with global?
Thanks again, Xamadiex.
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I read somewhere the LG Flashtool had to be modified at installation to avoid what you are going through.

You're right, it's just a matter of overwriting the megalock.dll file after you install the tool. It was a step I didn't miss. But good news for me, I used another pc and when I installed the flashtool it again gave me the three choices (not sure, but the title bar of the window was something like 'DMB').
This time I chose the 'global' selection and ran the tool as before and it completed for me. I'm currently DL'ing the lollipop update right now. Thanks for the quick reply, netomel.

partylikeaninjastar said:
I'm asking for my girlfriend. I have the T-Mobile variant with a custom recovery and I know not to take an OTA because custom recoveries and OTAs don't mix. She, however, has an AT&T variant and she just told me she was prompted to update to Lollipop. She rooted long ago with whatever root for AT&T app was popular at the time.
Doesn't taking an OTA just make you lose root? Nothing else to worry about?
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I just received my G3 for AT&T yesterday. It had 4.4.2 firmware on it. I rooted and installed titanium backup and froze all of the AT&T bloatware. Got notification last night that I had a system update available so I went ahead and let it update thinking it would be 4.4.4 but I was wrong. End result, I wound up with a perfectly functional Lollipop with all bloatware removed, but did lose root in the process. I can live with that until someone figures root for lollipop out I think.

hitekredneck said:
I just received my G3 for AT&T yesterday. It had 4.4.2 firmware on it. I rooted and installed titanium backup and froze all of the AT&T bloatware. Got notification last night that I had a system update available so I went ahead and let it update thinking it would be 4.4.4 but I was wrong. End result, I wound up with a perfectly functional Lollipop with all bloatware removed, but did lose root in the process. I can live with that until someone figures root for lollipop out I think.
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So it installed on your rooted G3? It wouldn't on mine - kept saying rooted device detected or something like that and then refuse to update. That's just fine because i have to have root so I was planning to wait anyway...

p0k3y said:
So it installed on your rooted G3? It wouldn't on mine - kept saying rooted device detected or something like that and then refuse to update.
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p0k3y said:
So it installed on your rooted G3? It wouldn't on mine - kept saying rooted device detected or something like that and then refuse to update. That's just fine because i have to have root so I was planning to wait anyway...
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Yes, it installed with no problems at all. And I must say that I am loving it. So glad that I froze all of those at&t apps before I lost root. I am looking forward to root for lollipop so that I can freeze a few more. I must say that this is the best stock android rom that I have ever had the pleasure of using. I will probably stick with it for quite some time because of the speed and excellent battery life.

Lolipop upgrade
Hi iam very new on this forum . I got LGg3 AT&t version D85010f and i cannot upgrade to LOLIPOP always i have com that i have latest soft and need to wait 48h to next check ......plz help me

hitekredneck said:
Yes, it installed with no problems at all. And I must say that I am loving it. So glad that I froze all of those at&t apps before I lost root. I am looking forward to root for lollipop so that I can freeze a few more. I must say that this is the best stock android rom that I have ever had the pleasure of using. I will probably stick with it for quite some time because of the speed and excellent battery life.
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I call bull****. Lolipop OTA will NOT install on a rooted device. Humor me, what root method did you use?

Vess69 said:
I call bull****. Lolipop OTA will NOT install on a rooted device. Humor me, what root method did you use?
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Call Bull**** all you want, I don't lie. To be honest, I can't even remember what method I used to root when on KitKat. Then I used TiBu to freeze a bunch of apps that I didn't want or need. Shortly thereafter the update hit me so I went ahead and let it do its thing. As stated, I did lose root afterwards but the apps I had frozen with TiBu remained frozen and everything still worked as it should. I waited patiently for a few weeks until the one click root script became available and used it to root lollipop, then installed TWRP and flashed Cloudy G3 stock ROM which is where I am happily at at this moment.
It could possibly have successfully updated due to the fact that I had not installed a custom recovery, that's the only thing I can think of that would have allowed it to happen on mine, yet not on others that were rooted.
EDIT: After reading back through this thread it jogged my memory. I used the Stump Root method to root while on KitKat.

You'd be the first person reported to be able to do this.
It would be a boon to the AT&T G3 community if you could remember the precise details of how you pulled this off as it would save loads of time and hassle for everyone else who has to restore to KK (which means a full wipe), then take the OTA to L, then root there.
Thanks in advance.
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I think you're L is version 20f, not the latest 21l, based on the date of your posts above.
Further, I'd suppose that what may have happened to you, is that the deivce had already downloaded the L update (from 10f to 20f) before you pulled off the root on KitKat. Then you simply acknowledged the install, which perhaps KK would allow to continue through.
Reports are the L will not allow this. So, going forward, someone rooted on L would not be allowed to complete the install even if the package is already downloaded on the device.
Still, it is, interesting.

Urgent problem with ota update 5.0

HI was downloading the new update 5.0 but it stopped and now the tablet says me "your system is updated" but with the 6.0.1.I can't restart the download now,what i have to do???

Same thing happened to me. Don't know why yet.

Same here. Where are you from?

Nvidia might have pulled it to fix something wait patiently it will come.

I had a similar problem as well. I got the notification to download the update, and when I clicked on the "Download" button in the notification, it did nothing. When I went into my settings and opened the OTA updater, it kept telling me that "Your system is up to date," even after repeatedly pressing the "Check Now" button, selecting "Clear data," rebooting, and messing with the advanced settings. I hope they fix this soon, I was really excited about this update!

Exact same issue here.

If you haven't root/twrp etc:
Download from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/5-0-update-nougat-incoming-t3553612/page2 (there are two version - k1 & standard).
Paste it to internal memory, boot into recovery and apply update from zip.

Just wait a little. That's what NVIDIA calls "staggered rollout".

Just wanted to update and say that I got my OTA this morning and will apply it later this afternoon. Guess, just as suggested earlier, they staggered them. It's strange though that they actually pulled it back, but then again it might have been an issue with it.

if you have "nougat launcher apk" just delete it.

Been a while since I rooted mine and I'd prefer not to lose root. Anyone know if there's going to be a pre-rooted version available that won't require going through the whole process again? Honestly I don't recall if it was difficult or not but I know for previous phones I've had there was a rooted version of the OTA that someone would post within a day or two of the release. Made the whole update process quicker and easier.
Also, for those who have updated, how is the performance compared to Marshmallow?

My 2 cents: if the root is confirmed to work, there is no "process" per se.
D/L the root zip to the tablet, boot into recovery, flash that zip and reboot into system.
Should be within 2-3 min the whole thing.

Wayno-san said:
Been a while since I rooted mine and I'd prefer not to lose root. Anyone know if there's going to be a pre-rooted version available that won't require going through the whole process again? Honestly I don't recall if it was difficult or not but I know for previous phones I've had there was a rooted version of the OTA that someone would post within a day or two of the release. Made the whole update process quicker and easier.
Also, for those who have updated, how is the performance compared to Marshmallow?
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Performance feels good so far. Don't know if there will be a pre-rooted version, but it's fairly simple and fast to root since your bootloader is unlocked and you'll get to keep all your data. If you want custom recovery I had to use the TWRP app after root to flash the recovery. Couldn't get it to stick using fastboot. There's a good rooting guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-...ndroid-7-nougat/root-shield-tablet-k1-nougat/

pucka said:
Performance feels good so far. Don't know if there will be a pre-rooted version, but it's fairly simple and fast to root since your bootloader is unlocked and you'll get to keep all your data. If you want custom recovery I had to use the TWRP app after root to flash the recovery. Couldn't get it to stick using fastboot. There's a good rooting guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-...ndroid-7-nougat/root-shield-tablet-k1-nougat/
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Thanks for the info and the guide link. If I'm rooted can I let the update to nougat proceed and then just follow the procedure in the link? Thought I read somewhere that I need to unroot it first.

Wayno-san said:
Thanks for the info and the guide link. If I'm rooted can I let the update to nougat proceed and then just follow the procedure in the link? Thought I read somewhere that I need to unroot it first.
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Yes you can just apply the update and there's no need to flash stock first. If you want to flash TWRP I would recommend getting root first by sideloading (like in the guide) and then using the TWRP app to flash TWRP.
I'm now rooted again with TWRP as custom recovery.