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Sell Htc one & get Nexus 5?

1.is it worth hassle
2. is the snapdragon 800 that much better than the 600
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I plan on doing it myself. More developments, because bigger screen, better camera, stock UI, better battery thanks to the 800 chip and wireless charging as well.
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DizzlePro said:
1.is it worth hassle
2. is the snapdragon 800 that much better than the 600
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Yes, yes, ... yes?
I went from a One to the G2. The S800 is WORLDS faster than the 600. Battery life is also not even comparable.
Most definitely worth it.
I do miss the speakers and feel of the One, that unibody is so amazing. Everything else though more than made up for it. I suspect the N5 will be no different and will probably be even faster thanks to AOSP/KitKat.

the 800 is way better, im selling my htc one, already ordered my N5, the only thing that worries me about the nexus are the speakers =(

800 is way better. If you listen to music on your phone, you'll have the benefits as well.
To address the latter issue, Google has introduced audio tunneling to DSP in Android 4.4. The premise is simple - instead of using the application processor to decode audio or respond to audio output requests, this responsibility is offloaded to the onboard DSP (digital signal processor). The DSP is much more efficient at such tasks than the CPU, and as such, Google estimates that the amount of power used playing back audio on your phone could decrease in excess of 50%! That's pretty impressive. In a local playback test (that is, non-streamed audio), the Nexus 5 extended its playback time from 30 hours without DSP tunneling to 60 hours with the new feature enabled.
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Read more, http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...duces-battery-consumption-when-playing-audio/

zephiK said:
800 is way better. If you listen to music on your phone, you'll have the benefits as well.
Read more, http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...duces-battery-consumption-when-playing-audio/
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Assuming you use headphones. Listening to music on the speakers will be a huge let down compared to One
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HRodMusic said:
the 800 is way better, im selling my htc one, already ordered my N5, the only thing that worries me about the nexus are the speakers =(
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It's not close. It looks like the N5 is the same as the G2. In which case I can tell you first hand it takes a little re-adjusting to go back to mediocre common phone speakers after the One. They aren't terrible, its on par with most other top smartphones, but no where near the One. Quality and Volume are both pretty meh. Volume fix helped a lot but quality still suffers badly.

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Assuming you use headphones. Listening to music on the speakers will be a huge let down compared to One
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It's not close. It looks like the N5 is the same as the G2. In which case I can tell you first hand it takes a little re-adjusting to go back to mediocre common phone speakers after the One. They aren't terrible, its on par with most other top smartphones, but no where near the One. Quality and Volume are both pretty meh. Volume fix helped a lot but quality still suffers badly.
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Anything can be fixed with Viper4Android using that on my N4 and music sounds great. Nevertheless, the battery consumption reduced is really nice.

zephiK said:
Anything can be fixed with Viper4Android using that on my N4 and music sounds great. Nevertheless, the battery consumption reduced is really nice.
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haha yeah that will be awesome out on the bike, look forward to that. Granted the G2 lasts forever anyway, but still.
Viper4Android made a huge improvement to the G2 for sure, but still "meh" when compared to the One. it's not really a fair comparison anyway though, it is unlikely many/any smartphones will ever compete with that, sad fact.

zephiK said:
800 is way better. If you listen to music on your phone, you'll have the benefits as well.
Read more, http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...duces-battery-consumption-when-playing-audio/
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but thats a feature of Android 4.4 which the htc one will be getting withing the next two weeks.
is the snapdragon 800 the only thing that the nexus 5 has on the Htc one?

I've got the S4 similar boat I've ordered one to test it out on the credit card. GPE editions are going to be updated soon so its a tough call.
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DizzlePro said:
but thats a feature of Android 4.4 which the htc one will be getting withing the next two weeks.
is the snapdragon 800 the only thing that the nexus 5 has on the Htc one?
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Front speakers, more premium feel perhaps, better screen perhaps?
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I have an S4 im planning on selling and using the Nexus 5 instead.
I have high hopes for the Camera and Battery life of the Nexus 5, I'm hoping it doesn't let me down.
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the camera on my htc one already f*** up on me..takes purple pixs so had to let it go

I was not planing on getting a Nexus 5 but I smashed the screen on my HTC One. HTC wants a little over $200 to fix the screen so I'm just going with the Nexus 5 instead. Any idea how much I could get for a black HTC One with cracked screen?

hello00 said:
the camera on my htc one already f*** up on me..takes purple pixs so had to let it go
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This is exactly the same reason as to why I've ordered a Nexus 5 myself, now the camera on the N5 isn't going to be mind-blowingly amazing but at least I won't see a ridiculous purple tint in half my photos.
Legitimately, the only real thing I'll miss from the HTC One are the speakers. I'd argue that I'd miss Sense 5.5 but N5 is going to be stock Android, that's as good as it gets.

I would of sold any phone just to get the N5. Just to get updates fast is nice from google.

Mine's on eBay right now. It's a good phone and I will definitely miss the front facing speakers, but I'm sure this will be worth it. If not, I can always go back to the One or just get the next version of the One in 6 months.

Not to be alarmist, but I hope HTC is still around in 6 months.
drew_grant said:
Mine's on eBay right now. It's a good phone and I will definitely miss the front facing speakers, but I'm sure this will be worth it. If not, I can always go back to the One or just get the next version of the One in 6 months.
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Zerolemon vs iBestwin vs TQTHL?

Hello, I'm thinking of continuing with this old wizard. So I'm thinking if buying a new extended battery. Can you people please share with me about your views? Zerolemon 10000 vs iBestwin 10000 vs TQTHL 11800? Please let me know which one will be the best option? Thanks in advance.

acmilan77051 said:
Hello, I'm thinking of continuing with this old wizard. So I'm thinking if buying a new extended battery. Can you people please share with me about your views? Zerolemon 10000 vs iBestwin 10000 vs TQTHL 11800? Please let me know which one will be the best option? Thanks in advance.
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At the end of the day I do not think it is worth buying an extended battery for this phone anymore as I think the battery may outlast the phone or you will simply stop using it and switch to a newer phone.
If you are still willing to buy an extended battery then I definitely do not recommend zerolemon as they are so old meaning the battery will probably degrade very quickly, and very expensive nowadays due to the lack of availability.
I bought the iBestwin one and I'm pretty sure it's the same as the TQTHL with a different label, bought it from amazon. Battery calibration will be a problem and the best way is to flash a kernel with zerolemon support like flashpoint but I have been running stock kernel (I guess I am worried about bugs and things and just haven't bothered). Unless you will keep the battery in and do full charge/discharge cycles but to be honest it is not worth doing it this way because as soon as you remove it the battery the calibration will be lost.
I remember initially getting 10hr SOT over like 3 days and now I am not too sure. Bought it in October.
I actually bought a normal sized battery yesterday as I miss the light, slim (mainly slim) design of the phone and will probably switch to this when watching videos or something else that is battery consuming.
If you are considering this for gaming then I really do not recommend it, because gaming on this phone will shorten its lifespan due to the heat generated which contributes to the dreaded EMMC error that will render your device useless without replacing the motherboard.
Don't get me wrong, the note 4 is a beast and my favourite smartphone of all time. Unfortunately time has passed enough for us to say goodbye. I only got this in April 2018 and will continue to use it for hopefully at least a year.
It is time to give up on removable battery and IR blaster, would get OnePlus 7 but not 7 Pro because of moving camera part. I am still a teenager so won't be getting anything any time soon and I wish I got the note 4 earlier but I am still having a great time with it.
Good luck, also you will not want to have it chilling in your pocket since it is a big visible annoying bulge. Solution is to get those pouch bags even if it makes you look like a drug dealer
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Wow you only posted this 3 hours ago, you are really lucky I saw this post:laugh:

Oooh also very important it has NFC and works great but it won't fit in for example in the mcdonalds card reader when using Google pay or something, you know those big screens which are touchscreens where you can select what you want? Basically anything with plastic shielding the number pad to enter your pin.
The way to get around this at mcdonalds is to stand in que/line where you can use your device because you have to place it on the screen of the card reader. As long as you have access to the display part where the phone can actually touch it you should be fine. The other obvious workaround is to just use your card but I did not have one until recently.

acmilan77051 said:
Hello, I'm thinking of continuing with this old wizard. So I'm thinking if buying a new extended battery. Can you people please share with me about your views? Zerolemon 10000 vs iBestwin 10000 vs TQTHL 11800? Please let me know which one will be the best option? Thanks in advance.
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Oh btw havoc os seems like a good rom, maybe even more stable than resurrection remix. Although if you won't the most stable experience and not care too much about the latest then stock rom is the way to go. I would have been on kitkat but many apps now require you to be at least on lollipop so I'm on marshmallow using a debloated stock rom
Here you go: https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...4-devbase-multi-csc-safe-bloat-t3033881/page1
That's the one I'm on now, I'm on devbase 4.6 though, latest one only has some security updates or something. I am tempted to try havoc os so may do that soon but now I'm testing modules which are meant to improve battery life and maintain good performance like FDE and LKT. Currently trying LKT since FDE seems to use turbo boost all the time so now I'm on LKT which seems alright so far.

Windroid-user said:
Oh btw havoc os seems like a good rom, maybe even more stable than resurrection remix. Although if you won't the most stable experience and not care too much about the latest then stock rom is the way to go. I would have been on kitkat but many apps now require you to be at least on lollipop so I'm on marshmallow using a debloated stock rom
Here you go: https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...4-devbase-multi-csc-safe-bloat-t3033881/page1
That's the one I'm on now, I'm on devbase 4.6 though, latest one only has some security updates or something. I am tempted to try havoc os so may do that soon but now I'm testing modules which are meant to improve battery life and maintain good performance like FDE and LKT. Currently trying LKT since FDE seems to use turbo boost all the time so now I'm on LKT which seems alright so far.
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Oh that was everything what i wanted to know. Sorry i replied late. Got busy with life.
I cannot tell you enough that how much i love this phone. Mainly because of its S pen and removable battery. My phone cam started having this focus issue from 2018 maybe. Still i was using it. I'm using this for 4 years now. 4 years! Bought this after my wedding on 2015. Sometimes i myself can't believe that I'm using this for so long. Oh i repaired my cam in Samsung service center a few months ago, but they screwed up my S pen sensor. Now i have ordered a new S pen sensor, will try to fix this. If they can fix it, maybe then I'll buy a new extended battery. I just can't justify spending another few hundred dollars when i have a phone which can do pretty much everything, the new phones can. But problem is the Snapdragon 805 can't keep up with the newest and latest Android versions. On Resurrection rom, sometimes it becomes unbearably and painfully slow and laggy. I thought a lot about replacing this with Asus ZenFone 6 or Redmi K20 pro, not OP7 though. But i really love this phone. I was thinking if i can continue with this after fixing the Spen sensor, then why not.. maybe I'll revert back to something stock, like the one you suggested. Stock roms are most stable, every time i flash newest roms, i end up going back to the stock ones. Have you tried the Apocalypse one? I looked into havoc. All the pie rooms have some bugs, i really hate it. Or maybe i can use Resurrection 5.8.5 Nougat, I've heard some good things about it, used it before, was stable. If you want to change the looks, you can try and keep that, if you want. Thanks for your reply.

acmilan77051 said:
Oh that was everything what i wanted to know. Sorry i replied late. Got busy with life.
I cannot tell you enough that how much i love this phone. Mainly because of its S pen and removable battery. My phone cam started having this focus issue from 2018 maybe. Still i was using it. I'm using this for 4 years now. 4 years! Bought this after my wedding on 2015. Sometimes i myself can't believe that I'm using this for so long. Oh i repaired my cam in Samsung service center a few months ago, but they screwed up my S pen sensor. Now i have ordered a new S pen sensor, will try to fix this. If they can fix it, maybe then I'll buy a new extended battery. I just can't justify spending another few hundred dollars when i have a phone which can do pretty much everything, the new phones can. But problem is the Snapdragon 805 can't keep up with the newest and latest Android versions. On Resurrection rom, sometimes it becomes unbearably and painfully slow and laggy. I thought a lot about replacing this with Asus ZenFone 6 or Redmi K20 pro, not OP7 though. But i really love this phone. I was thinking if i can continue with this after fixing the Spen sensor, then why not.. maybe I'll revert back to something stock, like the one you suggested. Stock roms are most stable, every time i flash newest roms, i end up going back to the stock ones. Have you tried the Apocalypse one? I looked into havoc. All the pie rooms have some bugs, i really hate it. Or maybe i can use Resurrection 5.8.5 Nougat, I've heard some good things about it, used it before, was stable. If you want to change the looks, you can try and keep that, if you want. Thanks for your reply.
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No problem man I just happened to stumble upon your thread and after I replied I realised it was on the same day you posted!
I just tried havoc only for like an hour and it's good but made me really miss features on stock. Yes I remember I was initially going to flash apocalypse rom, this was like last year when "Migrate" came out. I tried to use that but it didn't work. Flashed the rom and tried migrate but didn't work? So I think that app does not work on note 4 stock rom, I think I tried on non touchwiz rom and it worked.
Anyway one thing is the developer of that rom, star53 if I remember correctly (lol no clue how I still remember, I guess I also remember this name: stang5litre who developed a galaxy s4 rom for verizon with locked bootloader) he created multiple roms and I think it would be a good idea to look at which one is the stablest which I imagine would be the latest? He did stop continuing one of his latest roms if I remember correctly?
I really like the two names of his roms I've seen, batman and apocalypse, I remember thinking what the difference was between them and it was the base. No clue tbh need to do more research on that.
I did mention that pie rom based on great feedback, however I found camera bug within 15 minutes lol.
Do you know what I hate the most about stock rom? No flashlight toggle, which sucks! Like how tf could you forget that?
I think you (and I) will enjoy the apocalypse one however it bugs me that I don't really know the difference between them all, like which is the most stable?!?
Definitely the hardware is starting to show it's age unfortunately, I wish I could just switch out the processor lol, that's what I kind of liked from the idea of a modular smartphone which I think google tried to do. Especially with the display but that was later built into frame and then project died : (
Wow this is a big messy post. Hopefully you can keep up:laugh: :laugh:
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Unfortunately I think it's time for a new phone which will not have a removable battery or IR blaster or even a headphone jack!
LG V10/V20/V30 are good from my research, too late to buy now though. So you should base your search on V30, I don't know about latest LG V phone though because I haven't researched that.
An extended battery has been a bit of a pain (can't lie) mainly battery calibration but then the fact that it is the size of a frcking brick gets you eventually especially if you have it chilling in your pocket.
Even a galaxy s8 but I don't know how annoying the fingerprint placement is and if you are looking for a tempered glass screen protector then that may be an issue (not only for curved screen on samsung).
It's pretty annoying how much a new flagship costs nowadays which is why you are looking at other less known brands. But I have not researched those yet so can't and won't comment on those until I do my homework:silly:

Still a good time?

Still a good time to get a S10e? Or would you guys wait for new models?

I dont know why should you wait Phone is really fast(same specs as s10+ besides camera) and its good in hand. Really great phone Battery is good, it can get you through the day. I love it xd

BratoMo225 said:
I dont know why should you wait Phone is really fast(same specs as s10+ besides camera) and its good in hand. Really great phone Battery is good, it can get you through the day. I love it xd
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Thanks. What's your SOT?

mario24601 said:
Thanks. What's your SOT?
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mine is 6 hours top

cy-rock said:
mine is 6 hours top
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Not bad!

mario24601 said:
Not bad!
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closer to 5 tho

This is about average for me.

I do have access to different phones and change them quite often and I'm pretty confident that S10e is currently the best compact flagship. Maybe the i 11pro is little bit better in some areas, but it's powered by iOS and for me personally it's difficult to use it for more than a month or two before I get angry with all of it's everyday inconveniences. Plus it's 2 times the price. Every time I come back to my S10e. Hope it helps.

The s10 line will be more likely to get a price drop the closer we get to the s20 releases, so if you can wait it wouldn't hurt.... That said, the s10e is still a great phone.

The S10e is good for all of 2020 & 2021 as it will get Android 11 will be keeping mine until the S21 released.

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5 to 6 xd

e34v8 said:
I do have access to different phones and change them quite often and I'm pretty confident that S10e is currently the best compact flagship. Maybe the i 11pro is little bit better in some areas, but it's powered by iOS and for me personally it's difficult to use it for more than a month or two before I get angry with all of it's everyday inconveniences. Plus it's 2 times the price. Every time I come back to my S10e. Hope it helps.
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Thanks. I do like the 10e, great lil phone but think I'm going to go 11 Pro, I'm tired of having issues with messages and more battery life will be welcomed. Haven't used iPhone since the 4. Hope goes well.

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Thanks. I do like the 10e, great lil phone but think I'm going to go 11 Pro, I'm tired of having issues with messages and more battery life will be welcomed. Haven't used iPhone since the 4. Hope goes well.
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Basically almost nothing has changed in iOS except one or two desperately needed features and I feel it's become a bit slower. The 11 pro is an excellent piece of hardware. Good luck!

e34v8 said:
Basically almost nothing has changed in iOS except one or two desperately needed features and I feel it's become a bit slower. The 11 pro is an excellent piece of hardware. Good luck!
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Thanks, it's arriving today!

Last week was my 2nd purchase of S10e when i sold my first one probably 6 months ago. I was one of the early adopters of s10e and now the price here in Southeast Asia dropped to USD434.
I currently own Note10 and now this again. All i can say is Samsung should have made an option for a FLAT and compact screen in the upcoming s20 lineup that can directly rival the regular iPhone 11 Pro.
Aside from Google and Sony, there is no other OEM that builds a compact flagship phone anymore which is disappointing.

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Last week was my 2nd purchase of S10e when i sold my first one probably 6 months ago. I was one of the early adopters of s10e and now the price here in Southeast Asia dropped to USD434.
I currently own Note10 and now this again. All i can say is Samsung should have made an option for a FLAT and compact screen in the upcoming s20 lineup that can directly rival the regular iPhone 11 Pro.
Aside from Google and Sony, there is no other OEM that builds a compact flagship phone anymore which is disappointing.
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So you are replacing your note with 10e? Can I ask why?

There's too much issues/bugs with this phone that makes it hard for me to recommend to anyone.
1. The RAM management is awful! For example, if you split the screen with a random app and something like Twitter, each time you resume browsing your timeline, it automatically refreshes back to the beginning! Also Incognito tabs in Chrome don't stay in memory for very long.
2. Hidden albums seem to automatically disappear after a while!
3. Unable to control home devices such as Thermostat or Hue lights whilst phone is locked when using Google Assistant.
4. Battery section doesn't even show basic stuff like screen on time since last charge which means you have ti resort to third pay apps for features that I feel should be native to it.
5. Certain settings are unnecessarily hidden such as enabling the battery percentage. You won't find this under the Battery section. Had to Google it in the end!
6. Randomly the phone says it's restarted when it's not. Really annoying because then I have to type the password each time this happens as the fingerprint reader won't work until this is done.
There's a few note issues I've found that I can't remember off the top of my head. Stick to the iPhone guys!
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7. Photos look like oil paintings! Not very natural at all.
8. No way to natively check battery health.
9. Face recognition not secure enough as even the banks won't support it!
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10. Android pay refuses to work for me. I hold my phone to the pay terminal and nothing happens other than people giving me funny looks.
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Pixel 3a for £249 or 4a for £400+?

I have a Moto Z Play at the moment and as much as I like it, it is still on Oreo and is not up to date security-wise, which is a worry for me.
I was very set on a Pixel 3a which I can get for £299 with a £50 mastercard giftcard as a freebie. I have since seen a few posts on forums saying they get really slow after a few months and lag a lot, which is strange because my Moto Z Play still mostly performs fine, bit for stutter, but for a cheap phone it is fine.
I am wondering if I wait for the 4a to come out and spend maybe £400/£429 (whatever they price it at) for that, or just get the 3a, with the view that if I don't like it, I can return it in the first 2 weeks.
I don't really want to spend £400 on a phone ideally, as I don't really see the point.
Could some users of the 3a for a while give me some idea of how it performs after time?
I use my phone for YouTube, Chrome, Netflix, new apps and emails. Never play games on my phone unless it is a basic casual one that i'll play for 10 minutes and then delete.
(I know the new iPhone SE is out for £419 and will be worlds better than both of the Pixels' but I prefer Android overall and would rather not be locked to iOS.)
I'd appreciate any help, thanks
Edit - Just an insight in my phone history... i did have a OnePlus 6 for a while, but decided I preferred the Moto Z Play, so I sold the OP6. The performance difference didn't bother me and with my usage, didn't seem very noticeable. I just want mostly smooth and reliable.

Hello,
I've had mine for about 10 weeks now and I couldn't be happier with it - came from almost exclusively Samsung S range (3,4,5,7) and a moto x style in there as well.
'pure' android is a delight to behold. Still quick and responsive - boot time is about 2 seconds slower than when it was brand new. I've just checked and I currently have nearly 80 apps installed so that's to be expected.
It's a bit like a car/bike/desktop/whatever in that occasional maintenance is your friend ? I use Ccleaner and Greenify paid version. Rooted, EXKernel Manager, no twrp as on android 10 and it doesn't work on 10 yet. Took a little bit of adjustment to not having twrp as I liked to take a weekly backup but no big deal in the grand scheme of things - I'm still in love with the 'pure' android experience and not having all the extra **** bundled in from Samsung.
Few advisories I'd point out is that: I would have bought a 3XL if I could have afforded one, and the modding scene is pretty quiet but I have gathered 2 main learnings on that. Firstly, that'll probably change when the twrp devs get it up and running on android 10, and B, there is actually very little need to mod as the 'pure' android is just lovely as it is.
I've had no errors, no restarts/bootloops etc and re-rooting after updates is simple. I get a day battery no probs with moderate use, no games and using EXKernel Manager to alternate between Performance and Power saving settings as required. Camera is lovely. Wired headphone volume is a bit quiet but stick Viper4android on it and problem solved.
Happy to answer the odd question or 2 if you have any ?

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Hello,
I've had mine for about 10 weeks now and I couldn't be happier with it - came from almost exclusively Samsung S range (3,4,5,7) and a moto x style in there as well.
'pure' android is a delight to behold. Still quick and responsive - boot time is about 2 seconds slower than when it was brand new. I've just checked and I currently have nearly 80 apps installed so that's to be expected.
It's a bit like a car/bike/desktop/whatever in that occasional maintenance is your friend I use Ccleaner and Greenify paid version. Rooted, EXKernel Manager, no twrp as on android 10 and it doesn't work on 10 yet. Took a little bit of adjustment to not having twrp as I liked to take a weekly backup but no big deal in the grand scheme of things - I'm still in love with the 'pure' android experience and not having all the extra **** bundled in from Samsung.
Few advisories I'd point out is that: I would have bought a 3XL if I could have afforded one, and the modding scene is pretty quiet but I have gathered 2 main learnings on that. Firstly, that'll probably change when the twrp devs get it up and running on android 10, and B, there is actually very little need to mod as the 'pure' android is just lovely as it is.
I've had no errors, no restarts/bootloops etc and re-rooting after updates is simple. I get a day battery no probs with moderate use, no games and using EXKernel Manager to alternate between Performance and Power saving settings as required. Camera is lovely. Wired headphone volume is a bit quiet but stick Viper4android on it and problem solved.
Happy to answer the odd question or 2 if you have any
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Thanks for that.
Would you say it has gotten any slower after 2+ months?
Most of the reports I have read have said that it lags on the keyboard a lot and lags a lot in general. I wouldn't expect flagship performance, but I do want something that is mostly smooth and will browse the web without being a stuttery mess all the time.

Nah no lag for me but I use a 3rd party keyboard (SwiftKey) instead of Gboard. I use a lot of voice recognition for typing as well as the on screen keyboard.
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For Internet I mostly use Opera mini and AdAway and my browsing is fine

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Nah no lag for me but I use a 3rd party keyboard (SwiftKey) instead of Gboard. I use a lot of voice recognition for typing as well as the on screen keyboard.
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For Internet I mostly use Opera mini and AdAway and my browsing is fine
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Decided to just order one. It'll arrive tomorrow. If I don't like it I have 2 weeks to return it.
Best way to decide if it is any good for me is to use it!

Indeed that's what I did as well, let us know how you get on ?

gman88667733 said:
Decided to just order one. It'll arrive tomorrow. If I don't like it I have 2 weeks to return it.
Best way to decide if it is any good for me is to use it!
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I've had a 3a since I got rid of the 3 XL in December. I don't notice any slowdowns or performance difference even with games to the 3 XL I had. I take care of my devices though and remove unused apps and keep caches/storage clear as needed. Cloud storage is your friend. Most ppl just install dozens of apps and games and complain their device got slow but don't actually maintain their device. If you maintain your device it will perform well for you. I also get in the habit of factory resetting devices once or twice a year to freshen them up it literally takes 10 minutes if you keep backups of apps and data.

I personally think the 4a will be the better choice in the long run if you intend keeping your phone for a while, that being said the Pixel 3a is still a great phone I got rid of my Samsung S10e couple of weeks ago & picked up another Pixel 3a & i have no regrets at all coming back & downgrading somewhat spec wise, I still may pickup a 4a when the deals are on at some point later this year.
Also the release of the iPhone SE 2020 could be a good thing for future deals on the Pixel 4a.

Got the 3a with me now.
So far, so good! An added bonus is that it has WiFi calling, which I thought it did not.
Display is nice, size is good. Feels nice without a case on, but not sure I'm brave enough to run it without a case!
Speed seems fine, smooth and quick enough for me so far

Similar question...
I'm a Sony fanboy, have nearly all flagships since 2011 here, more or less good maintained with custom fws, i donated devices to devs here at xda, i'm a supporter.
My provider offers me to get a Pixel 3A or a Pixel 4 when i extend my contract for 2 years, the Pixel 3A would cost 11,50 € per month, the Pixel 4 20,00 €, in both cases the the mobile belongs to me after this 24 additional months. I really dunno how to decide, i read and read and read about the pros and cons, the results are all the same - take the 3A, says the tests and suggestions in the www. I'm not a gamer, no facebook, taking not much photos, not involved in social networks, i need pure functionality, navigation, good battery life, playing only CoC, NFS no Limits. The only advantage in the Pixel 4 which i see - it is newer. It's really hard for me to decide - any opinions are welcome. Thanks in advance. At least the fact that i dont really NEED a new phone, my 2 daily drivers are an Xperia Z3 and an S5Neo, both active ( private and business device ) with LOS 16 rock stable, smooth and fast systems. LOS 17.1 is coming for these 2 devices, i think with official status too.
So, that's all, please enlighten me.
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Well, whereas I am quite happy with my 3a, my rule for buying (any) tech stuff is to but the best that you can afford at the time. I got my 3a cos it was the best I could afford at the time but if I'd had the money, I would have gotten a 3xl or a 4. Sorry if this isn't helpful, just thought I'd share a bit of my process. I guess the conclusion would be if you can afford the 4, then get the 4
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gman88667733 said:
Got the 3a with me now.
So far, so good! An added bonus is that it has WiFi calling, which I thought it did not.
Display is nice, size is good. Feels nice without a case on, but not sure I'm brave enough to run it without a case!
Speed seems fine, smooth and quick enough for me so far
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Glad you like it, I prefer to have mine in a case as well (clumsy) so I just got a gel tpd case and screen protector on ebay. Screen protector covers the entire front including the bezels. It's done a stellar job so far - I keep lots of stuff in my pockets and there isn't so much as a scuff on my phone if you'd like I might be able to link the screen protector if I can find it in my ebay history ?
Link to screen protector:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143284267215

I have a caseology parralax case and a generic glass screen protector now, feels much safer!
So far the battery life on this is incredible, took it off the charger at 8pm Sunday evening, I still have 45% left at 3 hours of SOT.
That's will very weak/no reception for a lot of that too.
Given how small the battery is, it's really quite impressive
Really impressed with this phone so far.

The only issue I am having with my 3a is that I have always used Messenger lite (Facebook) for my messaging app. For some reason, a lot of the time the notifications don't show up after the phone has been locked for a while, until I go into the phone and it picks it up or sometimes until I go into the app.
I have notifications turned on and see no reason for them not to always come through and be visible on the lockscreen. Is this just the Doze feature being a bit too aggressive?

Ah I can't answer that, sorry. I use greenify to sleep my apps, including
social media apps. I only want to use them when I want to use them, you know?
So mine stay asleep until I open them manually.

That is okay. It doesn't do it all the time, I think it's mostly when the phones been sat idle for a while.

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Well, whereas I am quite happy with my 3a, my rule for buying (any) tech stuff is to but the best that you can afford at the time. I got my 3a cos it was the best I could afford at the time but if I'd had the money, I would have gotten a 3xl or a 4. Sorry if this isn't helpful, just thought I'd share a bit of my process. I guess the conclusion would be if you can afford the 4, then get the 4
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Thanks. And believe me, your post IS helpfull.
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gman88667733 said:
The only issue I am having with my 3a is that I have always used Messenger lite (Facebook) for my messaging app. For some reason, a lot of the time the notifications don't show up after the phone has been locked for a while, until I go into the phone and it picks it up or sometimes until I go into the app.
I have notifications turned on and see no reason for them not to always come through and be visible on the lockscreen. Is this just the Doze feature being a bit too aggressive?
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You can exclude the fb messanger app from doze (battery optimization) in settings, its in apps and notifications -> special app access, in batter optimization choose to ahow all apps.
Maybe that helps. But could also be an fb bug.
Cheers. Glad you like that phone, for ne it's the best phone i ever had, it just works.

For some reason this second charge has started off worse. I suppose it'll take a few days to fully settle and let the adaptive battery feature set up.

gman88667733 said:
Got the 3a with me now.
So far, so good! An added bonus is that it has WiFi calling, which I thought it did not.
Display is nice, size is good. Feels nice without a case on, but not sure I'm brave enough to run it without a case!
Speed seems fine, smooth and quick enough for me so far
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gman88667733 said:
The only issue I am having with my 3a is that I have always used Messenger lite (Facebook) for my messaging app. For some reason, a lot of the time the notifications don't show up after the phone has been locked for a while, until I go into the phone and it picks it up or sometimes until I go into the app.
I have notifications turned on and see no reason for them not to always come through and be visible on the lockscreen. Is this just the Doze feature being a bit too aggressive?
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For some reason this second charge has started off worse. I suppose it'll take a few days to fully settle and let the adaptive battery feature set up.
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It will settle in a day or 2, youve got to remember that in the first few days of a new toy there's all the setting up/copying data/etc as well but the battery will learn your normal usage. Here's a screen grab from my Better Battery Stats, it's a pretty good %pH.

The annoying thing currently is that I've just changed my bedroom in my house, there is currently no cell or WiFi reception in it, so it dropped 15% last night because it was searching for them all night. Hoping to sort the WiFi in a few days

Brand new SM-N986B/DS unopened box on my desk. Do I open it?

Having read all the arguments about Exynos vs Snapdragon I'm now thoroughly confused.
It also seems the U and O Snapdragon variants only cover some of the bands used by my telco (Three in the UK).
So, I can return this unopened box if there is a SD variant that works in the UK properly, or, if it's all a load of nonsense, I can open it and begin my Note 20 journey.
What do we say XDA?

Honestly I've seen the videos and I've seen the comparisons and it comes down to if you really want to go with the agreement that SD is better or take the semi Fair fair trade offs...
Dual sim and esim are not available on the US versions without tweaking the device.
Base storage is 256 vs the 128 we get.
However I noticed some of the exynos versions don't have all the 5g bands
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Keep in mind this is just my opinion. DEX and a few other options worked just fine with my note 10 that I had and it was exynos.

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Honestly I've seen the videos and I've seen the comparisons and it comes down to if you really want to go with the agreement that SD is better or take the semi Fair fair trade offs...
Dual sim and esim are not available on the US versions without tweaking the device.
Base storage is 256 vs the 128 we get.
However I noticed some of the exynos versions don't have all the 5g bands
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Thanks, I've no need for dual sim or esim. Just looking at performance if it will work on Three in the UK. And realistically what difference would it make to me? Any at all I'd wonder.

joebongo said:
Thanks, I've no need for dual sim or esim. Just looking at performance if it will work on Three in the UK. And realistically what difference would it make to me? Any at all I'd wonder.
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Dual SIM is awesome for travel - personally, I don't want to go back to single SIM.
From what I've seen of the comparisons between the Exynos and Snapdragon, the real world differences are not that great (with the possible exception of battery life). There is even some suggestion that Exynos can handle 5G in both SIM slots whereas Snapdragon might not - but this is still an outstanding question in my mind at least.
That said, I elected to get the Hong Kong SM-N9860 (Snapdragon), as 5G isn't as important to me as performance, battery life, and dual-SIM capability. Plus, HK has Samsung Pay, so that works on the phone as well - if your phone is from a country that doesn't have Samsung Pay, it won't work.
Hope this helps.

Use it as a paperweight or to prop up your computer screen. That way the battery life will be better.

Your imei numbers are visible mate!!!!
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It must be daul sim as I can see 2 imei numbers..
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Battery life is terrible and it keeps dropping calls. I've had my one since release but have phoned for a collection and refund today. I've tried everything but it never gets 5 hours SOT. It's OK in standby but as soon as you start using it the battery percentage drops instantly. Signal is also poor on Vodafone UK but no problem with my other handsets.

Well so far not much love at all for the Exynos. I thought I'd have enough "yeah it's fine, crack on" type replies.
I'm surprised really, my guess would have been that it was basically ok!
I'm going to leave the box unopened and see what people say over the rest of the day and tomorrow!

I have the SD dual sim n9860.
Even the snapdragon has unsatisfactory battery life, IMHO.
I don't think Samsung test their devices for long enough before release.
This should have had the 7000 mah battery they are now starting to use, even if the device got thinker and heavier.

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I have the SD dual sim n9860.
Even the snapdragon has unsatisfactory battery life, IMHO.
I don't think Samsung test their devices for long enough before release.
This should have had the 7000 mah battery they are now starting to use, even if the device got thinker and heavier.
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From what I have seen online, part of the issue is the requirement for a separate modem from the SoC, as Snapdragon is pushing (or being pushed to offer) a 5G solution that isn't quite ready for prime time. Adds a lot of cost too, mostly for the benefit of marketing.

I have the 986b it's fast
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Well so far I'm on the verge of returning the phone. I can't find a single post on the internet saying yes it's ok compared to SD, mainly for heat, battery and apparently camera differences, noticeable with low light shots.
I don't think I've ever had a phone unopened on my desk this long ever!

Seen some comparison YouTube videos and tbh there isn't that much difference 5 or 6% on some tests and even the exynos came out better on one bench mark can't remember witch now but to the average user won't be noticeable battery life slightly better but again minimal I watched a run down vs sd and exynos exynos died and sd had 7% left so not much better anyway people moaning about battery its different for everyone depends on user and what doing and how set up I get quiet good battery with few tweekts hear and there and its simple just plug in to charger for 30 min and hay presto loads of battery plus we get 256GB and akg headphones so not all bad I've decided to keep mine now and its early days things will improve with updates as well was going to get galaxy z flip 5G but 3300mah and mediocre camera and hefty monthly cost £88 will stick with note 20 ultra its a beast and that bronze is ? i got a good deal out of voda 48GB data with entertainment no upfront £58 month should of been £78 and £49 upfront for just 24GB thats what it is now, but I was on a double data promo when I exchanged handset so she left me on the previous plan with 48GB Bonus [emoji106]
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The performance is OK, no issues there. It's just the battery life that is horrendous. Having gone back to the Note 8 over the past couple of days it's actually better, but only has a 3300 battery. Something definitely not right with this phone. Could just be a bad battery but I can't be arsed going through an exchange and setting up all over again for the same thing to happen.

DoobyDroid said:
Seen some comparison YouTube videos and tbh there isn't that much difference 5 or 6% on some tests and even the exynos came out better on one bench mark can't remember witch now but to the average user won't be noticeable battery life slightly better but again minimal I watched a run down vs sd and exynos exynos died and sd had 7% left so not much better anyway people moaning about battery its different for everyone depends on user and what doing and how set up I get quiet good battery with few tweekts hear and there and its simple just plug in to charger for 30 min and hay presto loads of battery plus we get 256GB and akg headphones so not all bad I've decided to keep mine now and its early days things will improve with updates as well was going to get galaxy z flip 5G but 3300mah and mediocre camera and hefty monthly cost £88 will stick with note 20 ultra its a beast and that bronze is ? i got a good deal out of voda 48GB data with entertainment no upfront £58 month should of been £78 and £49 upfront for just 24GB thats what it is now, but I was on a double data promo when I exchanged handset so she left me on the previous plan with 48GB Bonus [emoji106]
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I think you might be referring to this comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxRH8aYnUU
And I agree, it would appear that the differences aren't as great IRL as the benchmarks might suggest - I went for the HK SM-N9650 anyway, as it would seem to have the best of both worlds - Snapdragon (although jury appears to be still out on usability of 5G) dual-SIM, and 256GB storage.
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The performance is OK, no issues there. It's just the battery life that is horrendous. Having gone back to the Note 8 over the past couple of days it's actually better, but only has a 3300 battery. Something definitely not right with this phone. Could just be a bad battery but I can't be arsed going through an exchange and setting up all over again for the same thing to happen.
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Are you using 5G? I have also read that the separate modem will drain more battery as well as opposed to an integrated SOC solution: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...65-is-a-step-backwards-for-smartphone-design/

jtOttawa said:
Are you using 5G? I have also read that the separate modem will drain more battery as well as opposed to an integrated SOC solution: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...65-is-a-step-backwards-for-smartphone-design/
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No, switched 5g off as we don't have it here, but no difference to battery life with it on or off.

kradcliffe said:
No, switched 5g off as we don't have it here, but no difference to battery life with it on or off.
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That's what the article suggests as well, I believe - that there will be additional battery drain due to the separate modem regardless.

kradcliffe said:
The performance is OK, no issues there. It's just the battery life that is horrendous. Having gone back to the Note 8 over the past couple of days it's actually better, but only has a 3300 battery. Something definitely not right with this phone. Could just be a bad battery but I can't be arsed going through an exchange and setting up all over again for the same thing to happen.
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How horrendous is horrendous? Am on a SD Note 10 plus here, a US version I think which some days of moderate use can get quite low, others I can go to bed with 40pc plus left.

kradcliffe said:
The performance is OK, no issues there. It's just the battery life that is horrendous. Having gone back to the Note 8 over the past couple of days it's actually better, but only has a 3300 battery. Something definitely not right with this phone. Could just be a bad battery but I can't be arsed going through an exchange and setting up all over again for the same thing to happen.
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Well considering the s20 ultra had a 5000mah you would of thought the note 20 ultra would be getting into the 5500+ at least tbh , i had the s20 ultra as well and not alot in it still had to charge around T time for 20 mins just to last the evening on both devices and I've found that on most of the flagships with 90/120hz and WQHD its just a battery hog feature pretty much goes for S20+ S20 ultra Oneplus 8 & 8 pro , oppo find x2 pro all phones I've had and returned all the same need charge at some point to last the day the only phones I've experienced with decent battery is unfortunately Huawei p30 pro and p40 pro now they have excellent optimization and ram management got to give Huawei that one just a shame with all the ban crap no GMS or I would of hands down kept the p40 pro for sure excellent phone
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Horrendous is just over 4 hours SOT. Boot up at 7am and empty by 4pm. Loses 10 percent battery in 40 minutes.