I've been searching for days and can't find an answer to my questions so I'll just ask.
I currently have an S4 with tmobile. It's stock rooted with Fenny's rom and Unlimited Tether Mod. The phone is realiable but i'd like to upgrade.
Since the Note7 has gone up in flames, I've been looking at the only 3 [seemingly] viable options which are the Galaxy S7 [not the edge], HTC M10, and mayve LG v20.
I've been a Samsung customer for years, so I guess I'd lean toward GS7. The only thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger on ANY new phone is whether or not I'll be able to root it and have an UNLIMITED HotSpot Mod. I can't seem to find a definitive answer as to whether thats a possibility for the GS7... is it able to be done? And for that matter, can it be done on the HTC M10 or LG v20... or any other great quality phone available right now [it seems the pickings are slim].
If I can't find a new phone that can do this, I guess I'll be sticking with my S4.
I'm still searching but can't find the answers I need. Nobody has any input?
I asked the same question yesterday, and not even one response....
I understand WifI Router (Root) by fabio works, bought it, and it didnt work for me. I emailed him, and he emailed me back promptly with support, asking me for my ABN settings, so I''m sure it works.
Unfortunately, I unrooted before getting support on my settings, so im waiting here to find out if anybody has rooted a stable PK1 ??? In my case it was not stable, overheated, lagged and eventually after 6 days boot-lopped. (confirmed governor's set to interactive) , and flashed the v15 fixes. I know it can be rooted, but seems less stable - and no clear answers here in our tmobile xda s7 little community.
While waiting for confirmation on stable PK1 root, (and I'm done experimenting), I do get full speed USB tethering in FoxFi. So this is a temporary solution until I see more answers on a stable root.
Can somebody with real success, please help ! thanks in advance !!
I use PDANet+ and works like a charm even on wifi
I forgot to mention my Pda.net (foxfi) was working like a charm too w/o root as well.
However , my foxfi is now handicapped thanks to Tmobile's latest policy changes.
I signed up for unlimited data (which had fine print stating 15 gigs hotspot high speed at lower priority).
First I was sand-bagged the $26 extra for unlimited hotspot on my unlimited account. Since i didnt know this was added without my approval - I removed it.
Then I noticed the new policies and the hotspot throttling.. Other users are reporting the same.
Now my foxfi is shut down to .5kbs - same as the native hotspot app. I have tried other apps with no luck with and without VPN (PIA). Foxfi works unrestricted via USB tether, and that is my current temp solution, until someone here actually verifies a stable PK1 root.
Once i know this can be achieved, I bought WiFi Router (root) and anticipate this will work, and or xtether for an unrestricted Hotspot activation around Tmobiles latest low blow.
We got the S7 and I regret everything about it. I had 2 Note 4's in the house running CM 12.1, tethering 600 gigs per month from Tmobile with 40-75megs down like it was nothing. I want to dump these and get a OnePlus or go back to a Note 4. Just something without a BL lock, pretty much have to go international or something like OnePlus.
xena499 said:
I forgot to mention my Pda.net (foxfi) was working like a charm too w/o root as well.
However , my foxfi is now handicapped thanks to Tmobile's latest policy changes.
tmobile made a big change on their hotspot control in the last few weeks. Now my foxfi is shut down to .5kbs - same as the native hotspot app. I have tried other apps with no luck with and without VPN (PIA). Foxfi works unrestricted via USB tether, and that is my current temp solution, until someone here actually verifies a stable PK1 root.
Once i know this can be achieved, I bought WiFi Router (root) and anticipate this will work, and or xtether for an unrestricted Hotspot activation around Tmobiles latest low blow.
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I use PDANet+ and dont have a problem with it, I have used more than 5gb over mobile hotspot without a problem
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We got the S7 and I regret everything about it. I had 2 Note 4's in the house running CM 12.1, tethering 600 gigs per month from Tmobile with 40-75megs down like it was nothing. I want to dump these and get a OnePlus or go back to a Note 4. Just something without a BL lock, pretty much have to go international or something like OnePlus.
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exactly ! I went note 4-->note 7--->note 7-->(cried)--->downgraded to this **** phone, ready to cry again, and dump it.
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I use PDANet+ and dont have a problem with it, I have used more than 5gb over mobile hotspot without a problem
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pdanet is not the prog that provisions hotspot. If you install PDAnet+ like you state, then you know it installs another prog called FoxFi.
This has hotspot. Tmobile has done something new on their end in the last 2 weeks to throttle this to .5kbps, unless you pay $26 extra for unlimited hotspot.
This program previously worked great and doesnt require root. I could get unlimited Hotspot, and highspeed. Now, they &*@k#D us.
Are you claiming to not pay the additional $26, and still get unthrottled speeds (15-50 mbs)?
Im sorry for asking you again, since my post is looking for a workaround, not what doesn't work any longer. I can see many others with the same observations re foxfi (pdna.net), hence - never even mentioning this. Sorry for my tone, as I hope to improve my situation, and want others too as well, and do not want others to try methods known not to currently work, until and if, Foxfi updates...
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exactly ! I went note 4-->note 7--->note 7-->(cried)--->downgraded to this **** phone, ready to cry again, and dump it.
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pdanet is not the prog that provisions hotspot. If you install PDAnet+ like you state, then you know it installs another prog called FoxFi.
This has hotspot. Tmobile has done something new on their end in the last 2 weeks to throttle this to .5kbps, unless you pay $26 extra for unlimited hotspot.
This program previously worked great and doesnt require root. I could get unlimited Hotspot, and highspeed. Now, they &*@k#D us.
Are you claiming to not pay the additional $26, and still get unthrottled speeds (15-50 mbs)?
Im sorry for asking you again, since my post is looking for a workaround, not what doesn't work any longer. I can see many others with the same observations re foxfi (pdna.net), hence - never even mentioning this. Sorry for my tone, as I hope to improve my situation, and want others too as well, and do not want others to try methods known not to currently work, until and if, Foxfi updates...
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To your situation I live in Puerto Rico and have T-Mobile here.
I have only 5GB of Mobile hotspot and has not consumed it yet.
I know what Foxfi is but if you know that if you install PDANet+ if you want full version you need to buy the FoxFi key that works for FoxFi and PDANet.
Here's what I have cosumed with FoxFi and before I buyed the Key I was using my regular hotspot which consumed almost 2GB of my plan.
I dont use usbtethering and only need PDANet for my PS4.
Plus I have legally buyed the FoxFi key, I'm not using any cracked software. Sorry but if for you doesnt work then is your country thats blocking the tethering there.
thanks for your response.
I guess i should have been clear - it is for US domestic T-mobile and Unlimited One plans. You are using a 5gig plan, your situation doesnt apply - it works. Same as the pay as you go plans in continental US.
The issue is for those of us on the UNLIMITED ONE plan that are now being throttled (90+ percent of us) Foxfi has been crippled and works no different than native hotspot.
Root will solve this, but I'm not confident in the root stability with what I have already experienced and further experimentation is a waste of my time. I hope experts in our community have got solutions that actually work....????
thanks for anyone's help in advance...
I wanted to report that I went back to PIA firmware, rooted and using WIfi Tether Router by Fabio (root) ($2.80) for my hotspot to get around the Tmobile throttling.
I'm using PIA VPN connected on the phone.
**In order to get VPN and WiFi tether router to work
using Wifi Tether router, you must create a new access point name, copying the tmobile settings in place, and changing the APN protocol to from IPv6 to IPv4
then save and select this new APN name as default in your phones mobile network settings.
Reboot the phone. I went from .5kbs ---> 20-50mbs.
Wifi Tether router runs slow, and hot - so this isn't as easy as using PDA.net (FoxFi) without root like before - but seems to work fine. Now, you must root to get the unlimited wifi hotspot. (For Tmobile Unlimited One accounts).
In beginning it didn't work until i made the above changes, and followed the configuration page:
for GS5/6 , but not sure this made any difference, so recommend not making any changes, until doing above.
I'm still testing the stability of root, in general, for the S7. Since my PK1 upgrade experience bad, I will stick with PIA until someone posts results with experience.
Thanks to some advice I used v15 fixes after root, and NOT the bloatware removal which might have been the culprit all along.
So are there any other new phones from t mobile that currently have successful workarounds for this?
I have the T-Mobile one plan and everything is unlimited.
re: the One plan "unlimited" is a marketing ploy. The previous marketing game is called Binge. Again market to the user they are getting more, when in fact they are getting far less.
if you read the fine print you will see that unlimited = not unlimited.
plus you cannot wifi tether anymore, since they added the $26/mo premium hotspot feature. Then your unlimited to 28gigs or whatever they specify has their unlimited limit which keeps changing - also in the fine print until they start to throttle you down, as the network priority demands (ie you become lower priority if connected to a busy tower).
The OP explains how to circumvent the hotspot restrictions. T-mobile's one plan (circa Sept 1 2016), has already been changed 3 times in 3 months. Not sure how you keep customers like this.
First we had UNLIMITED. Then it was clarified to unlimited upto 28 or so gigs or whatever the top 2% of their users use. The hotspot was restricted to 15 gigs per month, and specified to be a lower network priority. In my case the hotspot was full speed. Then, they changed the policy again. No hotspot. it works throttled to .5kbs.
The brilliance in the tmobile marketing is to advertise that they are giving more, when in fact they are giving less. Amazing that users think they have unlimited data, when they dont, and obviously are not hitting the upper limits to find out. Yes, you have unlimited .5kbs when you hit the limits, and in this sense, you are unlimited which is not so bad in itself, but good luck with HD videos on your 72" 5000k display
I do want to point out that when I went over the limit my speed was unaffected, but don't want an account where I'm wondering what will be the story tomorrow.
I came from a sprint unlimited account I had for 12 years. Nothing changed. Unlimited was unlimited, but was very slow. T-mobile seems much faster - but unreliable, and inconsistent.
Hotspot fix for no tether hotspot plan.
Are you guys talking about bypassing tether limit or having tethering on a tmobile plan that has no tether at all? I have old plan that has unlimited no throttle but also no hotspot tether at all and want to know what phone has roms that would give me tether. I have now s7, had v20 rooted but nothing worked for tether kept getting hotspot up sell page with WiFi tether and foxfire.
xena499 said:
re: the One plan "unlimited" is a marketing ploy. The previous marketing game is called Binge. Again market to the user they are getting more, when in fact they are getting far less.
if you read the fine print you will see that unlimited = not unlimited.
plus you cannot wifi tether anymore, since they added the $26/mo premium hotspot feature. Then your unlimited to 28gigs or whatever they specify has their unlimited limit which keeps changing - also in the fine print until they start to throttle you down, as the network priority demands (ie you become lower priority if connected to a busy tower).
The OP explains how to circumvent the hotspot restrictions. T-mobile's one plan (circa Sept 1 2016), has already been changed 3 times in 3 months. Not sure how you keep customers like this.
First we had UNLIMITED. Then it was clarified to unlimited upto 28 or so gigs or whatever the top 2% of their users use. The hotspot was restricted to 15 gigs per month, and specified to be a lower network priority. In my case the hotspot was full speed. Then, they changed the policy again. No hotspot. it works throttled to .5kbs.
The brilliance in the tmobile marketing is to advertise that they are giving more, when in fact they are giving less. Amazing that users think they have unlimited data, when they dont, and obviously are not hitting the upper limits to find out. Yes, you have unlimited .5kbs when you hit the limits, and in this sense, you are unlimited which is not so bad in itself, but good luck with HD videos on your 72" 5000k display
I do want to point out that when I went over the limit my speed was unaffected, but don't want an account where I'm wondering what will be the story tomorrow.
I came from a sprint unlimited account I had for 12 years. Nothing changed. Unlimited was unlimited, but was very slow. T-mobile seems much faster - but unreliable, and inconsistent.
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It shows on my T-Mobile app that I have unlimited. Never had any problems.
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It shows on my T-Mobile app that I have unlimited. Never had any problems.
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28 GBs is the soft cap. I have the truly unlimited plan (grandfathered) and I get soft capped at 22 GBs, but my app says it's unlimited.
Back when I had my 5 GB plan, the old app said unlimited too. Then I hit 5 GBs and realized they meant unlimited throttled 2G data and I had to dig through the app before stumbling upon "X/5 GBs of high speed data".
Also video streaming is limited to 480p but you already probably knew that, so yes, technically unlimited data but not really IMO.
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We got the S7 and I regret everything about it. I had 2 Note 4's in the house running CM 12.1, tethering 600 gigs per month from Tmobile with 40-75megs down like it was nothing. I want to dump these and get a OnePlus or go back to a Note 4. Just something without a BL lock, pretty much have to go international or something like OnePlus.
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People like you are why we have these throttles in place ?
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first want tto thank everyone for helping me S-off yesterday.
Last night i updated to sensation ICS.
to my surprise i still have wifi hotspot...
i never joined up for it or pay for it...
am i missing something here? i thought everyone lost it when they updated?
dont get me wrong, im glad its here, but im surprised thats all.
If you have a 5 GB or a 10 GB data plan, those are now being advertised with the free mobile hotspot. The plan was previoulsy known as "Classic Unlimited - Premium" It's being shown though as a limited time offer. My guess is (only my guess) they are grandfathering those who already had the Classic Unlimited - Premium / Ultra 5 / 10 GB plans to include tethering / hotspot access. And looking at the pricing, it is pretty much what I am already paying.
There are also reports that after upgrading, people have been able to use it temporarily then all the sudden, they get the "upgrade to hotspot" TMOB paage and are then locked out from further tehter / hotspot usage. TMOB also said that there would be a grace period for some who would still have it and then would later be required to upgrade for continued usage. So you may or may not loose it.
wow interesting.
I believe i will fall into the temp usage and probably have it taken away since i am only on the 2gb plan..
this is good info.. thanks..
In case that ever does start to fail (HOPEFULLY it doesn't), there seems to be a few options out there for providing hotspot from 3rd parties (such as FoxFi on the google market).
I haven't personally used this since I don't particularly need hotspot much myself, but it's good to know there should be other ways around this if necessary.
[Edit] Apparently I spoke a bit too soon. Wifi mode on FoxFi does not work on HTC devices. Bluetooth does however. There may be other options out there as well. There's an app called "Wireless Tether for Root Users" that may work
Yeah my guess is they do "grandfather" you in the plan because I have the 10 GB plan and its included as a "free" service. I called and asked because I DONT want anymore charges on my already too high bill. They assured me it was free for the plan I have. So your correct about it
Being included. I also think its for the 5/10GB plans.I'm not sure about the other plans.
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I have the 2 gb plan and also have wifi hotspot.
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I had free Hotspot on GB, but now get flagged and I haven't updated yet -- and I'm stock -- mite as well do ICS now
I manage to update to ICS. My Wifi Hotspot is still on. I have a Unlimited data plan as well, I think its 5GB.
From what I read so far, am good to go.
Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest
VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
Rocking T2 on the unlocked VSG3!
I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.
I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.
For some reason, I am getting an error when I try using t0mmy (found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261) one click tether enabler. I've done some searching and cannot find anyone else who has had this issue. What the heck am I missing (screenshots attached)?! Any ideas?
Info:
- Stock AT&T ROM
- Rooted
- Android 4.0.4
- Used on StraightTalk... all APNs are setup correctly... data works on the phone.
For solution, SEE BELOW
One other thing I should mention is that even when I am using `android-wifi-tether` it will not work. It just shows up as a device on my computer when it is turned on as a wifi hotspot.
I've downloaded SQLite Browser and have changed all fields with "broadband" to "pta". Still no go.
I don't understand what you need that program for...
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When I click to activate the native wifi hotspot, it says that I cannot have a hotspot and to call 611. So I am trying Android Wifi Tether, which works for a little bit then after about 3 seconds, says "what the hell, your phone is taking over. shutting down wifi." Something like that. I'm just trying to get this phone setup so my friend can use it as a hotspot.
SQLite is to edit my `telephony.db`
Well, I do believe that it could be because you are using a stock rom, so att bulit in securities could be taking over. Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering. it is the way the apn connects. now you can try to change your apn to BROADBAND, which is tethering, but again, but warned. if your data plan changes (esepcially if you are grandfathered into one), then that's on you...
so here are my suggestions: change the APN to broadband, get off the stock, and im sure there are a plethora of apps in the play market that should work
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Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
The days when you could easily pirate tethering may be coming to an end. AT&T has really cracked down on it and improved their methods of detection. Even if you get this working, you will get caught if you start tethering regularly.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
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I do apologize, you are right. You will get a notice first. And then if you continue, then you will still bumped out. It is an email AND a SMS. Using small amount of data is usually the way to go. But if you trying to tether a computer, then most likely the data usage will be high. As I mentioned in other posts, as a former AT&T employee, if you want to tether, just upgrade your data plan. If you are on unlimited data, you will already get throttled at 3gb, so the Unlimited data and 3gb are basically the same thing, which is why the price is the same.
I have seem some accounts when excessive tethering is done, that the data is actually suspended, no matter what the case is. It's weird that AT&T can do that, but it is in their wireless agreement, which is at section 6 i think.
Thanks for the heads up about AT&T clamping down on this. It is good to know. I am doing this for an elderly couple who rarely use the internet. This is their first smart phone. They are savvy enough to know what that message means if they get it. I will let them know about it too.
They mainly will be accessing on the device itself but wanted the option to use it as a hotspot as well. They are already paying for data... they purchased the phone used and are under no contract (on Straight Talk). They want to use something they own, however they want. It's too bad AT&T is so mean.
It's like buying a computer and then the manufacturer says you cannot use bluetooth unless you pay them a monthly service charge.
[SOLUTION]
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that I figured a way out to get 'android-wifi-tether.apk' to work on the stock AT&T ROM.... here we go:
Get "Proxoid" from the Google Play Store
Get WiFi Tether from the Google Play Store (or from here [QR Codes in link]: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/)
Get a mobile data widget
Once you have them installed, get them all lined up somewhere you can easily run them one after the other.
Make sure mobile data OFF before you turn anything on.
Open Proxoid and check the box to start/stop Proxoid... you want it ON
Open WiFi Tether and turn on tethering
Now you can turn on mobile data
This worked successful for me. I tested it for about 10-15 minutes, playing YouTube videos, reading some blogs, checked out some google image searches and so on. If you do not turn Proxoid on before mobile data is on, this will NOT work.
ENJOY! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
UPDATE: This only worked on my Mac and Android phone. Mac picked up the HOX as a "device" instead of a wifi connection but it worked. Windows cannot find the connection at all. If someone knows how to get Windows to find the device and use it as a hotspot please let me know.
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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exad said:
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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Which is the reason behind the detection. Same as throttling. With the explosion of bandwidth needed, the big companies cannot keep up. Hence why smaller companies offer unlimited data.
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I'm on T-Mobile US and tethering have been working fine for me without paying for the extra tethering fee on my Nexus 4. I can do wifi and bluetooth tether to ipad, nexus 7, and a laptop with user agent switching. Got my Nexus 5 today and nothing works, I keep on getting the upsell page even after playing around with different APN settings. Put my sim back in my N4 everything works. Anyone experiencing the same issue? Maybe Google changed something in KitKat.
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I'm on T-Mobile US and tethering have been working fine for me without paying for the extra tethering fee on my Nexus 4. I can do wifi and bluetooth tether to ipad, nexus 7, and a laptop with user agent switching. Got my Nexus 5 today and nothing works, I keep on getting the upsell page even after playing around with different APN settings. Put my sim back in my N4 everything works. Anyone experiencing the same issue? Maybe Google changed something in KitKat.
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What T-Mobile plan do you have?
Supposedly they are giving free wifi hotspot access with nearly all of their plans now, even prepaid.
Perhaps you need to check your APN or register the imei # somehow with T-Mobile.
I had to upgrade/downgrade myself today cause I was using a $10 unlimited web plan with my galaxy nexus, but when I tried to use the fast.-t-mobile.com APN (for LTE access) I got the upsell page as well, no data at all.
What I went ahead and did was sign up for the $30 prepaid plan (100 mins 5gb data) and transferred my number over etc, worked great. I had a micro sim activation kit though, which asked for IMEI number etc. Supposedly I will have wifi hotspot access @ 100mb/month but I haven't tested it yet.
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I'm on T-Mobile US and tethering have been working fine for me without paying for the extra tethering fee on my Nexus 4. I can do wifi and bluetooth tether to ipad, nexus 7, and a laptop with user agent switching. Got my Nexus 5 today and nothing works, I keep on getting the upsell page even after playing around with different APN settings. Put my sim back in my N4 everything works. Anyone experiencing the same issue? Maybe Google changed something in KitKat.
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Blocked for me as well. I'm on a post-paid plan. 1000 minutes and unlimited data. I mainly use the tethering with my iPad. Works with Nexus 4, but not with the Nexus 5.
I may be sending the 5 back, as this is a major issue for me.
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What T-Mobile plan do you have?
Supposedly they are giving free wifi hotspot access with nearly all of their plans now, even prepaid.
Perhaps you need to check your APN or register the imei # somehow with T-Mobile.
I had to upgrade/downgrade myself today cause I was using a $10 unlimited web plan with my galaxy nexus, but when I tried to use the fast.-t-mobile.com APN (for LTE access) I got the upsell page as well, no data at all.
What I went ahead and did was sign up for the $30 prepaid plan (100 mins 5gb data) and transferred my number over etc, worked great. I had a micro sim activation kit though, which asked for IMEI number etc. Supposedly I will have wifi hotspot access @ 100mb/month but I haven't tested it yet.
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I'm on old grandfather plan with prefer android unlimited web. I think this is something new with 4.4, maybe a custom ROM will fix it.
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I'm on old grandfather plan with prefer android unlimited web. I think this is something new with 4.4, maybe a custom ROM will fix it.
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Maybe, but I don't think you will get LTE with that plan, T-mobile seems to be blocking it with the fast.t-mobile.com APN.
At any rate, I've already switched to the $30 plan, and its working fine (haven't tested wifi hotspot yet though)
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jarredduq said:
Blocked for me as well. I'm on a post-paid plan. 1000 minutes and unlimited data. I mainly use the tethering with my iPad. Works with Nexus 4, but not with the Nexus 5.
I may be sending the 5 back, as this is a major issue for me.
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Not exactly sure which plan you have but I'm pretty sure T-Mobile is now including free wifi hotspot/tethering for free now. How much monthly data allowed depends on your plan.
If they are giving it to prepaid folks there is no reason why you shouldn't be getting it.
If you install the T-Mobile My account app from the play store see if it shows "mobile hotspot balance". If not I would call them as inquire about it. Don't return it too quickly...
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Maybe, but I don't think you will get LTE with that plan, T-mobile seems to be blocking it with the fast.t-mobile.com APN.
At any rate, I've already switched to the $30 plan, and its working fine (haven't tested wifi hotspot yet though)
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LTE been working fine for me on both N4 and N5, I wish I can drop down to the $30 plan, but I use more than 100min a month =(.
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LTE been working fine for me on both N4 and N5, I wish I can drop down to the $30 plan, but I use more than 100min a month =(.
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Ok I remember reading you need to have one of their "Simple Choice" plans to get the free mobile hotspot. You might have to change your plan, not sure if it will cost you more to do so though...
I'm assuming the plan you have now is unlimited, and you don't want to switch to the 2.5gb plan, and if you go up to unlimited its probably going to cost you more than you are paying now...
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Ok I remember reading you need to have one of their "Simple Choice" plans to get the free mobile hotspot. You might have to change your plan, not sure if it will cost you more to do so though...
I'm assuming the plan you have now is unlimited, and you don't want to switch to the 2.5gb plan, and if you go up to unlimited its probably going to cost you more than you are paying now...
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Only their new plans offer free wifi hotspot. The issue is I don't think it's my plan, if I put my sim back into my N4 tethering works fine.
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Only their new plans offer free wifi hotspot. The issue is I don't think it's my plan, if I put my sim back into my N4 tethering works fine.
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I've used tethering with my Value Plan (1000min/unlimited data) for over a year now. It just doesn't work with the Nexus 5, put the sim back in my Nexus 4 and it works fine. My plan didn't officially come with tethering. It worked fine with my iPad and android tablets. It would present the blocked message on my laptop. I was okay with that, since I didn't subscribe to an "official" tethering plan.
I don't know if this will be fixed with a custom rom, becuase it seems like it is at the core of KitKat. I also tried flashing the bare AOSP ROM, and tethering was blocked with that as well.
Also seeing the blocked tethering over here. On the $30 Tmobile plan and the Nexus 4 works perfectly tethering. Put the same sim into the Nexus 5 and it just redirects me to the sign in page for Tmobile. Hope this is fixed or this will be a massive negative towards this phone, probably even a deal breaker.
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I've used tethering with my Value Plan (1000min/unlimited data) for over a year now. It just doesn't work with the Nexus 5, put the sim back in my Nexus 4 and it works fine. My plan didn't officially come with tethering. It worked fine with my iPad and android tablets. It would present the blocked message on my laptop. I was okay with that, since I didn't subscribe to an "official" tethering plan.
I don't know if this will be fixed with a custom rom, becuase it seems like it is at the core of KitKat. I also tried flashing the bare AOSP ROM, and tethering was blocked with that as well.
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My doesn't officially comes with tethering either, but it always worked for tablets. On laptop I just change the user agent and it works fine. Have you look into any of the tethering apps? I have no idea if they're any better than the built in one.
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Also seeing the blocked tethering over here. On the $30 Tmobile plan and the Nexus 4 works perfectly tethering. Put the same sim into the Nexus 5 and it just redirects me to the sign in page for Tmobile. Hope this is fixed or this will be a massive negative towards this phone, probably even a deal breaker.
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You are seeing the redirect on your PC? In the past I noticed I had to change the user-agent on my PC's web browser to Mobile for it to let me past T-mobile's blocking.
Are you trying through a PC? Try tethering another mobile device like a tablet or phone and see if it works...
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You are seeing the redirect on your PC? In the past I noticed I had to change the user-agent on my PC's web browser to Mobile for it to let me past T-mobile's blocking.
Are you trying through a PC? Try tethering another mobile device like a tablet or phone and see if it works...
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I'll try that in a minute. Either way, the chromebook was able to tether with the nexus 4 without problems every time.
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You are seeing the redirect on your PC? In the past I noticed I had to change the user-agent on my PC's web browser to Mobile for it to let me past T-mobile's blocking.
Are you trying through a PC? Try tethering another mobile device like a tablet or phone and see if it works...
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Does not work on tablets or mobile phones. Changing user agent on laptop no longer works.
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Does not work on tablets or mobile phones. Changing user agent on laptop no longer works.
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Yep, its pretty well borked. Sure hope this is figured out soon, or there might be another Nexus 5 put up on craigslist.
Wth! Wow, this is worst news I've heard about the N5
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Why are there more people not talking about this? is a t mobile thing>? does anyone think this issue will get sorted out??
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Wth! Wow, this is worst news I've heard about the N5
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Why are there more people not talking about this? is a t mobile thing>? does anyone think this issue will get sorted out??
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I think it is a T-Mobile thing, as I see other people talking about successfully tethering their nexus 5 all over the place. Might just be a small subset of T-Mobile users. Either way its very annoying. Wouldn't be the end of the world if I had to use a different app to tether, but I don't even know if that would or could work.
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I think it is a T-Mobile thing, as I see other people talking about successfully tethering their nexus 5 all over the place. Might just be a small subset of T-Mobile users. Either way its very annoying. Wouldn't be the end of the world if I had to use a different app to tether, but I don't even know if that would or could work.
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I wish someone could confirm a resolution before I open my box.
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I wish someone could confirm a resolution before I open my box.
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You have to figure only a small subset of users have received theirs yet, and an even tinier subset of them even care about tethering, and even a smaller subset of then have even tried it yet. Every Nexus device is a disaster until you let it settle in for a week or two and let the wrinkles settle out.
Change 4g data plan
There's a new 4g data plan which includes 2.5GB hotspot data. You still get unlimited phone data for the same price as before. $20/mo.
So I've had the grandfathered unlimited data a LONG time but now there is a possible better option.
I have four lines on my account, only I have unlimited data. The recent DirecTV deal is something like ~$150 for four lines of unlimited everything (same 22gb/mo data shared before some sort of throttle) as long as you have a DirecTV account.
The net difference is about $140/mo cheaper for me and everyone gets 'unlimited' data. My parents will probably carry their DirecTV account for at least another 10yrs...
I'm a serious power user and usually use about 30-50gb/mo. I don't even notice the slow down with what I do.
Worth sacrificing the grandfathered personal unlimited which is now $35? I'm not sure I know all the details so I ask here. Thank you!
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So I've had the grandfathered unlimited data a LONG time but now there is a possible better option.
I have four lines on my account, only I have unlimited data. The recent DirecTV deal is something like ~$150 for four lines of unlimited everything (same 22gb/mo data shared before some sort of throttle) as long as you have a DirecTV account.
The net difference is about $140/mo cheaper for me and everyone gets 'unlimited' data. My parents will probably carry their DirecTV account for at least another 10yrs...
I'm a serious power user and usually use about 30-50gb/mo. I don't even notice the slow down with what I do.
Worth sacrificing the grandfathered personal unlimited which is now $35? I'm not sure I know all the details so I ask here. Thank you!
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Did you switch to the new Unlimited Data plan with Directv
If yes where you able to use rooting or foxfi to tether. They offer no tethering plan with the new unlimited. I was wondering if there is a workaround.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/att-unlimited-data-plan-directv-t3422618
diljosh said:
Did you switch to the new Unlimited Data plan with Directv
If yes where you able to use rooting or foxfi to tether. They offer no tethering plan with the new unlimited. I was wondering if there is a workaround.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/att-unlimited-data-plan-directv-t3422618
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Yes I did switch to the Directv unlimited and I've never even considered a tethering plan. It's always worked and I get the occasional text message informing me that tethering plans exist. With the new directv plan I haven't gotten a single text or letter about it. I only use android things so it's pretty easy to get some utility that does what I need. I'm currently on the OnePlus Three which does tethering default as part of the OS. I don't use it a lot, but it's extremely useful when I need it. The past month I've been really over using it however. It's usually faster than wired net anyways.
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Yes I did switch to the Directv unlimited and I've never even considered a tethering plan. It's always worked and I get the occasional text message informing me that tethering plans exist. With the new directv plan I haven't gotten a single text or letter about it. I only use android things so it's pretty easy to get some utility that does what I need. I'm currently on the OnePlus Three which does tethering default as part of the OS. I don't use it a lot, but it's extremely useful when I need it. The past month I've been really over using it however. It's usually faster than wired net anyways.
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The ATT rep told me, that I cant add tethering option to the new Unlimited plan even if I want to pay for it. But you are telling me that hotspot just works
So ATT does not block third party WIFI hotspot tethering or if it is built into the OS with the new unlimited data plan. Have you tried this on other android phones or just the One plus.
I am thinking of switching to ATT because of this plan, but the Hotspot is must for me.
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The ATT rep told me, that I cant add tethering option to the new Unlimited plan even if I want to pay for it. But you are telling me that hotspot just works
So ATT does not block third party WIFI hotspot tethering or if it is built into the OS with the new unlimited data plan. Have you tried this on other android phones or just the One plus.
I am thinking of switching to ATT because of this plan, but the Hotspot is must for me.
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I've only had the oneplus 3 on the new plan but I can tell you I'm on USB tether right now and it's 100% flawless. I tested wifi too but as we all know, wifi just isn't as snappy as a wire. lemme test it on various devices for you later today. The wifi hotspot, not the tethering ability...bit too lazy for that, sorry.
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I've only had the oneplus 3 on the new plan but I can tell you I'm on USB tether right now and it's 100% flawless. I tested wifi too but as we all know, wifi just isn't as snappy as a wire. lemme test it on various devices for you later today. The wifi hotspot, not the tethering ability...bit too lazy for that, sorry.
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That would be great, really appreciate it. I mainly need the wifi Hotspot. Have you been going over the 22GB throttle limit, if so are they slowing you down.
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That would be great, really appreciate it. I mainly need the wifi Hotspot. Have you been going over the 22GB throttle limit, if so are they slowing you down.
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Even on the previous unlimited plan they would throttle you after only 5gb. I pass 22gb in the first two weeks every month. Sometimes in the first week. I don't even notice anymore if it's slow or fast. I'm sure it's being throttled but it's still fast 'enough' for me not to care. I was really skeptical of the plan but it's actually working out pretty well and it's FAR cheaper than I ever expected. Especially if you're getting your own phones...the oneplus 3 is excellent.