Black Friday is quickly approaching, and the SM-G930U (Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 - US Unlocked version) is on sale at Best Buy, but I am also considering the HTC 10 which is also on sale. Both are similar in price. I can't make up my mind which one I want, but the tie breaker will go to whichever can be rooted, preferably systemless root.
So... Is the SM-G930U rootable? If so, is it systemless?
Exynos is rootable, not snapdragon.
Alright thanks for the update. I know this can change at any moment but I don't want to hold my breath since it's been a very long time for such a popular phone to not be broken, and I've gone through tons of threads on here where some say it's rootable and others say no, falsely getting my hopes up but they're probably still getting the versions confused.
peachpuff said:
Exynos is rootable, not snapdragon.
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It totally is rootable! The engboot method works on the snapdragon version, and I have mine rooted.
rino757 said:
It totally is rootable! The engboot method works on the snapdragon version, and I have mine rooted.
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Yeah, but it destroys performance. You can get it semi-close to stock but not stock-like.
Raymonf said:
Yeah, but it destroys performance. You can get it semi-close to stock but not stock-like.
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Have you tried flashing any of the fixes and adjusting the CPU governor? I'm getting great performance. And it'd more be helpful to just say it exists but can make it slow rather than it doesn't exist at all.
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Have you tried flashing any of the fixes and adjusting the CPU governor? I'm getting great performance. And it'd more be helpful to just say it exists but can make it slow rather than it doesn't exist at all.
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I didn't say it didn't.
Also, yeah. Clean install (factory resetted) and I've tried pretty much everything to at least get semi-good performance.
I gave up when I missed that Pikachu in NYC because my phone kept freezing.
Rootable but slow and freeze, even with all the tweaks.
I have a USA-U version.
Raymonf said:
I didn't say it didn't.
Also, yeah. Clean install (factory resetted) and I've tried pretty much everything to at least get semi-good performance.
I gave up when I missed that Pikachu in NYC because my phone kept freezing.
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Sorry, I thought it was the other user replying. But yeah, not sure what to tell ya. I flashed the recommended zip and set my governor to ondemand, got no freezes or lag. Battery life could be better but for root it's a sacrifice worth making. Tbh just waiting for nougat then I'm doing an Odin flash and running clean stock.
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Sorry, I thought it was the other user replying. But yeah, not sure what to tell ya. I flashed the recommended zip and set my governor to ondemand, got no freezes or lag. Battery life could be better but for root it's a sacrifice worth making. Tbh just waiting for nougat then I'm doing an Odin flash and running clean stock.
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So one user is saying that it is rootable but suffers from performance issues, but you are saying that yours doesn't?
Why do you want to go back to stock?
andrewsfm said:
So one user is saying that it is rootable but suffers from performance issues, but you are saying that yours doesn't?
Why do you want to go back to stock?
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Kinda of? Mine would be suffering from performance issues if I didn't change the governor and flash the fix zip. The engboot root method defaults the cpu governor to performance, causing issues. Anyone who's doing some reading on the forums should be able to find the fixes I did though.
As for going back to stock, that's only once nougat comes out, because I rather be on stock nougat than rooted marshmallow.
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Kinda of? Mine would be suffering from performance issues if I didn't change the governor and flash the fix zip. The engboot root method defaults the cpu governor to performance, causing issues. Anyone who's doing some reading on the forums should be able to find the fixes I did though.
As for going back to stock, that's only once nougat comes out, because I rather be on stock nougat than rooted marshmallow.
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Is it a systemless or standard root?
andrewsfm said:
Is it a systemless or standard root?
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Not really sure? It might be easier to ask in the thread with the root guide.
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Busy with nothing I simply pressed the button to check firmware update for my TF700T. Then a notif came up telling me to install an update. After a temporary unroot I did what it said, and now I'm running Firmware 10.4.4.23-20121127, mine is WW. Root restored without any issue after rebooting.
Can't really see any changes (yet), probably have to dig deeper.
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Updated and restored root
I've just installed mine but have not seen any difference. Maybe preparing the way for 4.2?
Could anyone upload the dlpkgfile for ww??
Here is the US version if someone needs it http://www.4shared.com/file/DIESwG1w/dlpkgfile.html
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I've just installed mine but have not seen any difference. Maybe preparing the way for 4.2?
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I did an Antutu benchmark, before update I was getting about 13300 or so, now I am getting 14400. I also think they have unlocked 1700 mghz for all cores except power saving obviously.
Got the update too, nothing too obvious seems to have changed.....
And I forgot to backup the dlpkgfile, sorry @geri.st
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I did an Antutu benchmark, before update I was getting about 13300 or so, now I am getting 14400. I also think they have unlocked 1700 mghz for all cores except power saving obviously.
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Just noticed the 1700 mhtz being available again. Otherwise I dont see any noticeable difference either. There's still lag and choppiness as .20
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
Yes lag and choppiness in stock browser still very much present.
Do we really need another thread for this
For me this is the greatest update so far. Tablet is much faster and did not find any bugs yet. Prevented me from unlocking for some more time.
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geri.st said:
Could anyone upload the dlpkgfile for ww??
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Sorry i can not post links because i'mnewbie
dlpkgfile.WW.TF700T.10.4.4.23 --> h t t p : / / d l . f r e e . f r / j N 9 d P O 8 W D
raladoshow said:
For me this is the greatest update so far. Tablet is much faster and did not find any bugs yet. Prevented me from unlocking for some more time.
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You haven't seen the performance of Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel yet. I ran the .23 version and it's no where near the performance of the Cleanrom/clemsyn combo. I went back to stock just to see the .23 perfornace, but after one day, I'm back on Cleanrom/Clemsyn kernel.
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You haven't seen the performance of Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel yet. I ran the .23 version and it's no where near the performance of the Cleanrom/clemsyn combo. I went back to stock just to see the .23 perfornace, but after one day, I'm back on Cleanrom/Clemsyn kernel.
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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I hear you, you do have a point!
I agree that this update really improved the speed of my tab. Might not be clean rom fast, but it's still warrantied fast
It's a bit faster now. At this rate we'll be fully happy with the speed around April. For me it does what I want it to just fine So what if I have to wait 1 second instead of 0.5 second for an app to open? And the very, very rare (no, I don't get them a lot. once a day, at most.) ANR messages are a whole lot less irritating than the constant "Are you sure" UAC rubbish I deal with daily on W7. (technologically impaired clients. Ugh.)
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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I, too, am not risking unlocking. While it is for sale here quite regularly and the EU covers warranty concerns, I bought it from a store that's not known for its great customer service (Media Markt, for you dutchies&germans.) and I didn't get a chance to use NVFlash. (By the time I heard about the idea, the first update had already auto installed. ) I'm also generally rather unlucky when it comes to electronics, stuff tends to break. And I need the tablet for work, so I can't afford to have it send out for repair for weeks if I mess up.
@ShadowLea
I have exactly the same problem as you, but Media Markt isn't good for repair?
Must I unfreeze all system apps before the update?
Karting06 said:
@ShadowLea
I have exactly the same problem as you, but Media Markt isn't good for repair?
Must I unfreeze all system apps before the update?
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Yes, you must unfreez all system. Any modification to properties (build.props) file also needs to roll back. The device must be in the "stock" condition or update will failed.
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Yes, you must unfreez all system. Any modification to properties (build.props) file also needs to roll back. The device must be in the "stock" condition or update will failed.
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Thank you, it worked
[I am not going to root it this month, so please, no posts about how it is a must thing to do, why it is beter to do it now than later and so on (especially about unlocking a bootloader - I already know that)]
1. What are a must apps for nexus 5 (non-rooted)? or other, not must, but nice to have?
2. Must have (and cheap, as I've already spent my ~400$ on this nexus) accessories?
3. Just some simple tips and tricks that a new android kitkat and N5 user should know
(This phone is a beast! :victory: )
EDIT: Should I update it from android 4.4.2? And ART. Should I turn it on before or after the updates (yes, I already decided on updating and on ART - I'll turn it on after all the updates. So no answers to these needed )
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[I am not going to root it this month, so please, no posts about how it is a must thing to do, why it is beter to do it now than later and so on (especially about unlocking a bootloader - I already know that)]
1. What are a must apps for nexus 5 (non-rooted)? or other, not must, but nice to have?
2. Must have (and cheap, as I've already spent my ~400$ on this nexus) accessories?
3. Just some simple tips and tricks that a new android kitkat and N5 user should know
(This phone is a beast! :victory: )
EDIT: Should I update it from android 4.4.2? And ART. Should I turn it on before or after the updates (yes, I already decided on updating and on ART - I'll turn it on after all the updates. So no answers to these needed )
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For me -
1. Nexus Flashlight, skifta (photos to tv via dlna), silent hours,
2. wireless charging pad http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IQTGY2A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3.
btw - use ART. And update to 4.4.4. turn on ART, your phone will be unusable/slow for an hour or 2, and then will speed up (and battery will not be used!).
You should root it straight away cus it wipes the phone clean and it'll be really annoying in the future ?
I would update to 4.4.4, and use ART. In terms of apps I highly recommend dashclock and add the widget to the lockscreen. It allows for your notifications to be displayed on the lockscreen in a clear and efficient manner. It takes a little time to set up but I believe it is well worth it.
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You should root it straight away cus it wipes the phone clean and it'll be really annoying in the future ?
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Nope First, I told not to tell me to root. Second - it is possible to root without unlocking bootloader. And third, I just rooted my nexus 5 using towelroot So yeah people. What do I do with root and locked bootloader?
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Nope First, I told not to tell me to root. Second - it is possible to root without unlocking bootloader. And third, I just rooted my nexus 5 using towelroot So yeah people. What do I do with root and locked bootloader?
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Good for you for rooting with out unlocking. There really are no must have apps. The n5 out of the box is pretty good. The only thing I like is xposed and gravity box. But no art if you use xposed
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nm - saw that he rooted.
I recommend unlocking the bootloader now because it does a factory reset in the process. Doing so later will be annoying...
upndwn4par said:
I recommend unlocking the bootloader now because it does a factory reset in the process. Doing so later will be annoying...
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+1 cus you'll only end up doing at a later date regretting not doing it now ?
He doesn't need to unlock it unless he has to flash back to stock if he can't boot.
He should automate backups from sdcard using foldersync though.
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+1 cus you'll only end up doing at a later date regretting not doing it now ?
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Not even close You can unlock bootloader from rooted device without wiping All you need is a Bootloader unlocker for nexus (or something like that) from play store.
ashirviskas said:
[I am not going to root it this month, so please, no posts about how it is a must thing to do, why it is beter to do it now than later and so on (especially about unlocking a bootloader - I already know that)]
1. What are a must apps for nexus 5 (non-rooted)? or other, not must, but nice to have?
2. Must have (and cheap, as I've already spent my ~400$ on this nexus) accessories?
3. Just some simple tips and tricks that a new android kitkat and N5 user should know
(This phone is a beast! :victory: )
EDIT: Should I update it from android 4.4.2? And ART. Should I turn it on before or after the updates (yes, I already decided on updating and on ART - I'll turn it on after all the updates. So no answers to these needed )
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Flashlight is a must. Password Safe is good for storing all your usernames/passwords, and the usual social networking are great for really fast communication
Should flash franco kernel on stock or not? Will it interfere with ART and overall stability?
ashirviskas said:
Should flash franco kernel on stock or not? Will it interfere with ART and overall stability?
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Flash whatever non-CAF kernel you like. You decide. Will not cause instability or conflict with ART
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Flash whatever non-CAF kernel you like. You decide. Will not cause instability or conflict with ART
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Okay. So now I've got franco on it, I already underclocked to save battery, what else I should do? (Thanks for your help )
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Okay. So now I've got franco on it, I already underclocked to save battery, what else I should do? (Thanks for your help )
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I would go for PA rom +Franco
Also for more battery check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49210431
Since you are on franco ,even more battery conserv and smooth system: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47583885&postcount=10"
ashirviskas said:
Okay. So now I've got franco on it, I already underclocked to save battery, what else I should do? (Thanks for your help )
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Underclocking doesn't save battery
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Underclocking doesn't save battery
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It *can* but you'd have to only do tasks that take fewer clock cycles than your Max frequency
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rootSU said:
It *can* but you'd have to only do tasks that take fewer clock cycles than your Max frequency
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I reclocked it to normal speeds and started with undervolting. I have PVS 3, stable at 300 MHz at 650, 422 MHz at 675 ... 1267 MHz at 810, 1574 at 860, 2265 at 975.
Any more advices?
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I reclocked it to normal speeds and started with undervolting. I have PVS 3, stable at 300 MHz at 650, 422 MHz at 675 ... 1267 MHz at 810, 1574 at 860, 2265 at 975.
Any more advices?
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Try the LSD os and enjoy the Nexus5 trip!
Anyone know if this will stop root? I haven't rooted yet, I was curious n checked for a update n well apparently there was one here's info
Best wait. We have root because of the engineer boot. Don't see why it would buy it could.
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Anyone know if this will stop root? I haven't rooted yet, I was curious n checked for a update n well apparently there was one here's info
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No, you're fine to update, I'm on the latest firmware, rooted, with xposed installed. You're gonna wanna change the kernel governor after rooting to interactive or on demand fyi.
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No, you're fine to update, I'm on the latest firmware, rooted, with xposed installed. You're gonna wanna change the kernel governor after rooting to interactive or on demand fyi.
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Is it also safe to update and then root?
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Is it also safe to update and then root?
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I'm assuming yes because you'll be on the PG1 firmware and that's what I'm rooted on.
Hey guys,
So I'm running a stock S7 (AT&T) and have read tons of threads about how to fix battery drain, etc etc. And I'm not finding any great result.
I've tried different debloats and dumbing down lots of system settings, but haven't found that sweet spot yet. I know disabling some things can end up causing further drain, so maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Has there been any definitive solution to fixing the Android System drain? Mine is constantly 30% or more drain at the end of the day.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Firmware . Mostly older firmwares like apc8 or apf2.
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Firmware . Mostly older firmwares like apc8 or apf2.
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You mean rolling back my firmware would improve it?
CobraStrike said:
You mean rolling back my firmware would improve it?
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If you updated to API2 you can't go back.
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If you updated to API2 you can't go back.
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Damn. You always assume updating will FIX bugs. Haha.
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Damn. You always assume updating will FIX bugs. Haha.
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API2 has an updated bootloader. You can't downgrade to any other version of the AT&T firmware unless it's Bootloader 4... This is what I meant when I said "You can't go back."
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API2 has an updated bootloader. You can't downgrade to any other version of the AT&T firmware unless it's Bootloader 4... This is what I meant when I said "You can't go back."
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I just traded in mine for another to see if it improves anything... What firmware should i stick with?
CobraStrike said:
I just traded in mine for another to see if it improves anything... What firmware should i stick with?
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Stay on stock for awhile and try not to take any OTAs. There are multiple complaints about the latest updates causing a lot of battery drain.
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Stay on stock for awhile and try not to take any OTAs. There are multiple complaints about the latest updates causing a lot of battery drain.
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Alright, will do. I'll post with an update. Thanks, man.
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Alright, will do. I'll post with an update. Thanks, man.
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I also have a 930A , just dont update the bootloader , that is BL in odin . Rest you can install the latest using odin . People have been paying 15$ and buying AT&T updates from the persian site . Check S7 At&t forums
Here's the latest firmware for the G930A if you need it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...are-g930aucs4api2-bootloader-4-t3481957/page3
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I also have a 930A , just dont update the bootloader , that is BL in odin . Rest you can install the latest using odin . People have been paying 15$ and buying AT&T updates from the persian site . Check S7 At&t forums
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Dude... you're going to have to help me out, because I have no idea what you're talking about. Haha.
Looks like this one came on APE1. Should I stick with it and not update at all or what? Phone is unrooted.
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Looks like this one came on APE1. Should I stick with it and not update at all or what? Phone is unrooted.
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You are on May update
to update download from link posted before
then use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039 to go back to stock
Do exactly as its in this but change AP , CP and CSC as per new downloaded file .
You will be then on unrooted API2 but it has Android system battery drain
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You are on May update
to update download from link posted before
then use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039 to go back to stock
Do exactly as its in this but change AP , CP and CSC as per new downloaded file .
You will be then on unrooted API2 but it has Android system battery drain
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I'm not rooted at the moment... Wouldn't it just be easier to accept the OTA update?
I exchanged my device for a new one already.
CobraStrike said:
I'm not rooted at the moment... Wouldn't it just be easier to accept the OTA update?
I exchanged my device for a new one already.
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OTA can be taken but that would upgrade your BL to 4 , then you are stuck on API only
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OTA can be taken but that would upgrade your BL to 4 , then you are stuck on API only
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Ah, so the idea is to update without updating the bootloader, huh?
Is there any way to do this without root?
Sorry, man... I'm a complete noob and haven't rooted a phone in a while.
CobraStrike said:
Ah, so the idea is to update without updating the bootloader, huh?
Is there any way to do this without root?
Sorry, man... I'm a complete noob and haven't rooted a phone in a while.
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1 . yes
2. All without root only
3. Gave you all the links /Guide earlier
No requirement of rooting in this anywhere . Just using odin
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1 . yes
2. All without root only
3. Gave you all the links /Guide earlier
No requirement of rooting in this anywhere . Just using odin
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Ah, alright. Thanks a lot, man. I'll do this when I get home. I keep getting pesky update requests!
I read everything over and i see what you're talking about. Download and flash all updates besides the BL which is the bootloader... But I'm trying to get away from the battery drain. Should I flash a previous firmware instead of the current for better battery life?
Also, what's the big benefit of having an older bootloader? So you can upgrade and downgrade at will?
Is it possible to downgrade back to marshmallow if I don't like nougat? Would I just flash the stock MM firmware or would it be a different procedure
yes this is the process ... you only have to find the right Firmware for you specific device.
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yes this is the process ... you only have to find the right Firmware for you specific device.
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Awesome thank you. I want to try nougat but I don't want to be stuck on it if I don't like it. Not too sure if I want to give up root and xposed...
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Awesome thank you. I want to try nougat but I don't want to be stuck on it if I don't like it. Not too sure if I want to give up root and xposed...
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What are you running by the way? Just curious.
Tried rooted stock minor lag but over heating with some apps and games. Tried echo Rom but got extreme heating and had to stop playing a game or certain apps. Tried stock t mobile but would warm up. Finally tried at&t nougat and ran smooth and now currently on t mobile nougat running better them anything. I miss root but not the over heating so patiently awaiting root.
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What are you running by the way? Just curious.
Tried rooted stock minor lag but over heating with some apps and games. Tried echo Rom but got extreme heating and had to stop playing a game or certain apps. Tried stock t mobile but would warm up. Finally tried at&t nougat and ran smooth and now currently on t mobile nougat running better them anything. I miss root but not the over heating so patiently awaiting root.
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I'm running the Echoe rom v1.5
I don't get any over heating, only when updating all my spas but I am also using XBooster, root booster, and setCPU
Sorry meant apps*