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[Q] Backup Apps

I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!

bigcrav said:
I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
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Nandroid typically backs up your entire system as it is. Meaning settings, apps, themes, kernel, etc... whereas Titanium Backup will backup data. It's always good to have a working nandroid backup, in case you find yourself flashing a bad rom/kernel or otherwise getting into a bad state, you can always roll back to your nandroid backup.
Titanium Backup is really handy for backing up your apps and their data (saved games, etc...). I've heard MyBackup is good too, but haven't tried it yet.
I'm not sure what all Google backs up, but from what I've seen (and this is just a quick 'off the top of my head' list) it has settings (wifi information, wallpaper, homescreen setup), contacts in your google account and apps from the marketplace. I'm sure it backs up more, that's just all I can think of at the moment.
As for Sense... I'm not sure. This is my first official Sense device, but I noticed some old SMS messages come up out of nowhere. I'm sure doing some googling will give you the info you want though.

Thanks man. Very helpful.
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When my apps from my captivate magically appeared on my Inspire after signing in to google I was impressed, and quite glad I always turn on wifi when setting up a phone.

i've always preferred appmanager over titanium backup.
recently though, with an updated version of appinstaller (by gregory house), they implimented a backup option which i've stuck with. appinstaller is the most lightweight, reliable app installing/uninstalling/backup program i've come across.

[Q] non-root backups

So now that Google (and probably media companies) have decided to cut off rooted Xooms from media, how do we do device backups? Is there a backup solution that doesn't require root?
eric

ericbergan said:
So now that Google (and probably media companies) have decided to cut off rooted Xooms from media, how do we do device backups? Is there a backup solution that doesn't require root?
eric
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You can always just copy your stuff off with a computer. it wont back up all your setting and such but at least you wont lose any data.

True, but we all spend lots of time configuring our tablets and their applications.
As it stands right now, seems like Google doesn't value our time spent doing that, since there is no backup/restore solution (that works with their media solution) in case of device loss or failure?
eric

ericbergan said:
True, but we all spend lots of time configuring our tablets and their applications.
As it stands right now, seems like Google doesn't value our time spent doing that, since there is no backup/restore solution (that works with their media solution) in case of device loss or failure?
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Oh I agree 100% Thats why I rooted.. just so i could backup with rom manager

I am still trying to figure out if there is any way to do a backup before rooting, since it seems that rooting will wipe the Xoom.
I have a stock 3.1 3g, and as with the earlier posting, I don't really want to reconfigure everything, and reinstall all my apps, in order to root. Is there any way to backup, then root?

Its not the rooting itself that will cause you to loose everything it is the unlocking of the bootloader. I think your sol but I may be wrong though. I am a titanium backup user myself so I never used the app but try mybackup. I think that's what's called any ways. It says you don't need root and IV seen other users with other devices that used it so give it a shot.
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Helium backup

Well getting my device tomorrow. Hopefully helium backup will work on it when I get it. Currently don't work with nexus 6 though. Helium backup is a great app for migrating app data to new devices. Test it out if you haven't yet.

Don't you need root?

Semantics said:
Don't you need root?
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Helium piggybacks on ADB.

Semantics said:
Don't you need root?
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In other words....no you do not.

Nope. No root needed. Fantastic for changing devices or when you are a flashoholic.
Just need a computer to enable it when you use it.
Tested it with my s7e,and it works perfectly.

I have used helium in the past and loved it. It allows you to back up saved data as well which sets it apart from the improved Android re-install.
I will use it again when mine comes back. In fact it was on my todo list to back it up today in preperation. I am not sure when my Verizon edge 7 will be here..... but I ordered in the first 10 minutes so hopefully I will be in first batch shipped and get my middle of this week...... Fingers crossed!

TheArtiszan said:
Nope. No root needed. Fantastic for changing devices or when you are a flashoholic.
Just need a computer to enable it when you use it.
Tested it with my s7e,and it works perfectly.
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Yep, I love the way helium deals with backups and whatnot. I flash my devices atleast once a week and it's been fine. Glad to hear that the s7 is no different, though it's not really a surprise since it runs M and firmware wise isn't much different from the current ones.

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Helium piggybacks on ADB.
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is there a tutorial on that process or can you walk us thru it?

TheArtiszan said:
Nope. No root needed. Fantastic for changing devices or when you are a flashoholic.
Just need a computer to enable it when you use it.
Tested it with my s7e,and it works perfectly.
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Really true..! It works great..! One of my favourite app

On my Galaxy S6 wit Marshmallow Helium Backup is working. Hopefully it will be the same on the S7 Edge. Let us know.:good:

How do I make helium work on the S7 with a Mac??

I'm pretty sure there is a mac version of the computer program on the website.

Don't forget about Samsung Smart Switch if your transferring apps etc if you don't get Hellium working
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I've got it working and connected to S5 but for some reason my S7 won't connect to the Helium desktop even after enabling USB debugging and trying in both MTP and PTP modes.
All I can guess is driver issues but the ADB drivers from CWM say they're for all Samsung models.

MrWicked1 said:
Don't forget about Samsung Smart Switch if your transferring apps etc if you don't get Hellium working
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Glad you brought this up... I'm finally getting my S7E tomorrow... I am torn between Helium and Samsung Smart Switch.
I've used Helium in the past for other phones and the only down side is that it doesn't backup 100% of the apps (not all apps work)
Can anyone speak to the Samsung Smart Switch software and process?? Does it work as easily as one would hope? Does it generally backup 100% of apps and their associated data?
Any chance someone has used both and has any feedback on which method is best, fastest, all inclusive and streamlined?
Thanks much!
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After doing a little research, it looks like SSS doesn't backup app data (there might be a cloud option via Dropbox/Drive/Box).
So it looks like either Helium or via SDK (below)
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-a-full-backup-of-your-android-device-without-root/
Any thoughts?

Good news: Helium works almost perfectly. Samsung have done a lot of good past year for the PC side of things - SmartSwich and SideSync are very good. I had no difficulty in attaching the S7 via USB debugging and enabling Helium on Windows 10. Worked the first time. There are limitations - some apps don't allow Helium to back them up, they still remain.
Also, Samsung's own USB-to-USB restore is also nice, but it doesn't copy app data, though arguably it is the fastest way for other stuff. It even picked up the wallpaper from Lines icon pack I had from my S6 Edge + and had it applied - impressive. It didn't change the default launcher to Nova though and also didn't restore any settings or configurations.
ALERT: There will be errors. It is best advised to uncheck the apps causing the error. Also, some apps will APPEAR to restore but won't have their data. A second attempt will bring back the data.
Samsung Smart Switch is nice, but I found that while it backs up apps, it doesn't restore them. However it is a very good solution for non-app data such as Pics.
Also, AVOID restoring Kobo and Zinio, they just hang. Best to install afresh.
My advice: First restore through USB-to-USB restore - all the apps and stuff. On the second run through restore data through Helium.

TheArtiszan said:
I'm pretty sure there is a mac version of the computer program on the website.
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Windows, Mac and Linux Versions.

worked for me to create a new backup on my new phone, then copy over all the backup folders from my old device's carbon folder, then finally a full restore with Helium. Took the phone a little time, but pretty easy and not much time requirement from me to do.

any one knows how to restore app by app with Helium? I can only restore in 1 block at the moment

Can't you just use the supplied otg to hook up the other phone and migrate data?

[APP IDEA] Nandroid Backup Tool

Hey guys,
First of all i'm no developer..( yet ), but as an android user that needs root, I rely on nandroid backups as a last resort of restoration when a phone bricks, and i imagine that a lot of other users do the same, but there was never this AIO app that can get the job done, which is why i think our community needs to pitch in to make one for all of us.
I know there is apps out there that does what i'm seeking here but not quite there yet, most of these apps either does not have full support or simply left with no updates for years even though there was some great potential.
Now my goal here is either to revive an old app and somehow motivate the developer to support it and help it grow, or construct a new one from scratch.
Please let me know if you guys have any ideas or suggestions regarding this topic and if you think it is worth it for you or not.
Thanks

What do you mean? Isn't TWRP not enough for you? Could you explain a little bit more what function would you like to have in this app?

-Pepe said:
What do you mean? Isn't TWRP not enough for you? Could you explain a little bit more what function would you like to have in this app?
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Not having to boot into TWRP (so I can still send/receive texts and calls, get notifications, etc.) would be amazing.

JoeFCaputo113 said:
Not having to boot into TWRP (so I can still send/receive texts and calls, get notifications, etc.) would be amazing.
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mmm I see... But correct me if I'm wrong, these are just my thoughts and I'm far from understand how Android works: I think that making a backup using TWRP is safer because everything is turned off, whereas backing up with the phone turned on might ends up with corrupt data (for example if you get a call while backing up the telephone app).

-Pepe said:
mmm I see... But correct me if I'm wrong, these are just my thoughts and I'm far from understand how Android works: I think that making a backup using TWRP is safer because everything is turned off, whereas backing up with the phone turned on might ends up with corrupt data (for example if you get a call while backing up the telephone app).
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To be honest I have no idea... But it would seem like you are correct haha.

Guys, i think you misunderstood me, TWRP is a great tool to backup and i don't think there will be a better alternative, what i'm seeking here is an APP that can take the backups made by TWRP or CWM, and extract/restore what ever the user needs out of them individually.
apps that were aiming to do so but never really reached that goal is Titanium Backup, Nandroid Manager and others like it.
I hope that makes a bit more sense

anyone ?

Question Full backup possible?

Greetings!
Just picked up a Pixel 6a, coming from an LG-V30. Have been out of the custom ROM game since switching from a Nexus5 to the LG which had minimal custom ROM options (stock was really quite good).
With the Nexus5 I was used to doing full backups (boot/system/data) with TWRP so I could try out a new ROM and reverting to my original ROM (completely set up with all my apps and data) with very little effort or down time.
I've spent some time reading the forum and it doesn't look like TWRP is really a thing for the Pixel 6a and I've found very little info about making a similar "full" backup.
Does such an option exist?
I'd like to test drive LineageOS (and maybe one or two others, I was a huge fan of CyanogenMod in the past), but having spent the last several days getting things "just right" in my stock/rooted setup I'm not thrilled at the idea of doing it again just to try something that might not work out.
Not really looking for "Google Backup" style options, I would like a solution I can do 100% local to try something out and then easily and quickly revert if needed.
Thanks!

TWRP style full backup isnt possible anymore, but you can use Swift backup to do a TiBu style app backup. Between Swift and Google a clean flash isnt horrible, but yeah.....I definitely also miss the full backup option.

Hi!
You can try this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tool-root-adb-partition-backup-restore-tool-for-windows.4512231/
I could backup my Pixel 6a completely.

Sorry, but there is no such option. I have P6 and also miss TWRP or Clockwork kind of recovery solution. There is nothing similar (as far as I know) like what we had on previous phones... Now I use Swift backup for apps backup, but that's not what you looking for.

Thanks for the replies, even if they aren't what I was hoping for...
I have switched to Swift as well, too many issues with TiBU restoring data and ending up with force close problems.
Jan61 - Looks interesting, but I'm not sure it's ready for general use.
Typical Google, one step forward but two steps back for users who want to do more than just buy a phone.
Oh well, guess I will live with stock for a while and let Lineage get more stable (maybe even official).

Can you use Swift Backup to backup app data without being rooted?

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Can you use Swift Backup to backup app data without being rooted?
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As far as I know no, unfortunately.

"swift" is closed source software being distributed by somebody you can't hold accountable for any kind of security problems in the software. It has the capability of connecting to the internet even if you deny network permission (on an android distribution that has such option, obviously). I would HIGHLY recommend that you avoid this software.
Better backup software is *NEO Backup* (available on F-Droid), which is open source and quite auditable.

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"swift" is closed source software being distributed by somebody you can't hold accountable for any kind of security problems in the software. It has the capability of connecting to the internet even if you deny network permission (on an android distribution that has such option, obviously). I would HIGHLY recommend that you avoid this software.
Better backup software is *NEO Backup* (available on F-Droid), which is open source and quite auditable.
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You mean like a Microsoft system
or an apple system
Both are closed source

I don't vouch for swift backup, I tried it and most of my restored apps crashed repeatedly / didn't backup correctly. I am still looking for a good backup android solution that works similar to windows system image backups.

I've used it since day one
I've never had a problem with it
I've been using a Google phone since day one
The only backup problem I ever had was tibu
That was the biggest piece of **** there was

piperx said:
You mean like a Microsoft system
or an apple system
Both are closed source
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Both are hideously untrustworthy, but at least you can hold them accountable for data theft.

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It has the capability of connecting to the internet even if you deny network permission (on an android distribution that has such option, obviously).
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Curious, does that include being blocked by a a rooted system level firewall (AFWall+/iptables)?
I've never trusted Google's "toggles" to turn things off properly.
And FWIW - You (as an individual user) are as likely to hold crApple/Micro$oft accountable as you would the author of Swift for any data theft.
EDIT - That said, I will give NEO a look, options are always good to have available.

NEO requires root

Maybe this helps someone.
I do full backup with:
- Plug phone into PC and copy each folder down. Sometimes you have to go one-by-one, or a few folders at once, or Windows just freezes up. Once all copied, great.
- Use Super Backup app from Play Store to make a backup of everything. Calendar, Call Logs, Contacts, etc.
Once all done:
Use the phone's built-in migration solution IF same brand; IF not, use Google app to transfer/migrate. This will copy most of your app settings and whatnot to your new device. (I skip pictures, etc.) To copy over pictures, I just use Windows and the previously made backup to copy over the DCIM folder for example.
And that's it, works flawless for me.

baldybill said:
NEO requires root
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Non-issue, I rooted the phone the day I got it.
I won't own a phone that can't be rooted.

h8Aramex said:
Maybe this helps someone.
I do full backup with:
- Plug phone into PC and copy each folder down. Sometimes you have to go one-by-one, or a few folders at once, or Windows just freezes up. Once all copied, great.
- Use Super Backup app from Play Store to make a backup of everything. Calendar, Call Logs, Contacts, etc.
Once all done:
Use the phone's built-in migration solution IF same brand; IF not, use Google app to transfer/migrate. This will copy most of your app settings and whatnot to your new device. (I skip pictures, etc.) To copy over pictures, I just use Windows and the previously made backup to copy over the DCIM folder for example.
And that's it, works flawless for me.
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I do something similar for migration, but I'm not looking for a one time migration. I want to be able to bounce around on a couple custom ROMs for a day or two and then settle on the one I like. Used to be easy with TWRP backup to image the entire phone in a single step, not so much any more.

mbellot said:
Curious, does that include being blocked by a a rooted system level firewall (AFWall+/iptables)?
I've never trusted Google's "toggles" to turn things off properly.
And FWIW - You (as an individual user) are as likely to hold crApple/Micro$oft accountable as you would the author of Swift for any data theft.
EDIT - That said, I will give NEO a look, options are always good to have available.
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Root can bypass *everything*. No exception. That includes either switching to a different user to work around firewall rules, or even adjusting the rules to suit. Selinux? "setenforce 0".
As far as holding the fruit company or vaxx pushers accountable, keep in mind that its not just YOU needing to hold them accountable, but EVERYBODY ELSE harmed by their software. So yes, it will come to something VERY substantial.

96carboard said:
As far as holding the fruit company or vaxx pushers accountable, keep in mind that its not just YOU needing to hold them accountable, but EVERYBODY ELSE harmed by their software. So yes, it will come to something VERY substantial.
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If it's more than just individuals (ie. class action lawsuit), the only ones who get anything "substantial" are the lawyers.
You'll get a coupon for 10% off your next i-Thing or Windoze "upgrade", the lawyers will get the cash.

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If it's more than just individuals (ie. class action lawsuit), the only ones who get anything "substantial" are the lawyers.
You'll get a coupon for 10% off your next i-Thing or Windoze "upgrade", the lawyers will get the cash.
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You assume that the objective is to get a payday, when the objective is actually to punish them for bad behavior.