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Screen unresponsive??

Does anyone else's screen ever become unresponsive for a few seconds and then work fine, at least 3 times a day?

Yes, mainly when playing fruit ninja though...
It randomly started happening for me probably around 6/18 (or 19th) on cm nightlies + latest cm kernel for that build date.
What rom/kernel are you using?
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Thanks for replying, its been happening to me for a while, maybe a month. I am on stock, I might try a different kernel...

Only when my screen is wet or I have it plugged into my super fast charger.

I might go back to 4.0 to see if it fixes the problem, do you know if the battery life was better on 4.0 than 4.1? Is there a way I can make it not tell me to update?

Comet1966 said:
I might go back to 4.0 to see if it fixes the problem, do you know if the battery life was better on 4.0 than 4.1? Is there a way I can make it not tell me to update?
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Battery life, can't really answer. I never really ran stock JB long enough to compare...
As for making it not tell you about updating, when I was on stock I just froze the updater app with Titanium Backup.

Alright thanks, can you tell me what the name of the updater app is?

Comet1966 said:
Alright thanks, can you tell me what the name of the updater app is?
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Here's my old post for ICS...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37141335&postcount=210

I get the unresponsive touch screen sometimes when i get a call. The phone is sleeping, the call comes in and the screen lights up, but i can't slide the ring over to answer the call. I don't get a ton of calls but i would say it's been happening maybe up to half the time.
I was thinking of trying to warranty fix/replace it, but i fear they might enforce the unlocked bootloader voiding-warranty thing

My dad says the voiding warranty thing is a load of crap just to scare you. But if you change the logo and unroot it how would they know?

Comet1966 said:
My dad says the voiding warranty thing is a load of crap just to scare you. But if you change the logo and unroot it how would they know?
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When they send you the unlock code, supposedly they keep a record of that tied to your serial #, even if you never even use the code to unlock your bootloader. This is what they say anyway.
But yeah, i think it is worth a try. On the Motorola page with the service link, i entered my IMEI and it let me proceed, so i might try and go thru with it.

I think it will work, what's the worst that could happen?

Yeah, absolute worst case is probably they get the phone, tell me they have to charge me x dollars to fix it, and i tell them just send it back to me as is? Lol

Lol yeah, or if you take it to a sprint store that is capable of repairs, and they tell you they want money, just snatch it out of there hand and RUN out the door!

[Q] Which AT&T capable LG G2 DOES NOT have carrier IQ?

I am on my next to last day to exchange. Let me say that I love this phone except for the fact that AT&T has Carrier IQ installed and it can not be removed without rooting (at least on the 2 year contract one). There is a process to stop it and it's not that hard, except that it is a PITA to do it every time you reboot. If you forget to force stop, you are in the clutches of Carrier IQ. Also, I have doubts that even though it is stopped via a forced stop, that it is not residing somewhere else on the phone and still doing the nasties that it was designed to do. There is no sense in going over CIQ as there are a couple of threads already on the subject in reference to this phone and AT&T.
Unfortunately, I am stuck with AT&T and carrier swapping is not an option so the only option open to me right now is the phone.
So, is there a version of the LG G2 that is available for sale in the US that can be used on the AT&T network that does not have CIQ installed on it? Maybe the full sale priced one that AT&T sells? Or maybe a different one from Best Buy or someplace else? In a nut shell. Looking for a LG G2 that I can use on the US AT&T network that does not have CIQ installed.
I am new to this "smart phone" game but really am impressed with this phone and want to keep it, but in reality, unless I root it and void my warranty, this CIQ issue could be a killer for me. The reason is because I used to work at that big glass building at Fort Meade and know more than I want to about electronic data mining and collection. BTW, AT&T (both on line and store front), LG tech rep (store front), and LG (on line) all say that CIQ is not removable in the version that I have without rooting.
Any options that I am missing?

I don't think you have any other options friend. I'm also in a similar boat of having to return it tomorrow if I choose to do so. I think the full price one, or the one from best buy would be the same as they're all at&t branded so i'm sure they are all part of the exact same batch. There wouldn't be anything different between them.
I think I'm going to go ahead and root and disable it. There is no other phone that I think is this good, period.

Short answer, no. Long answer, your only option would be to buy the International or maybe Korean variants online and at full price and slap an AT&T SIM in it. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get LTE though.
I get the feeling this is not what you want to do, so if CIQ bothers you that much and you're not willing to root you're going to have to return it.
You might want to consider waiting for the Nexus 5, which will likely share at least some hardware characteristics of the G2.
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NevetsDrassel said:
Any options that I am missing?
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Simple. Root. Easy and fixes the issue and more.

guys...its not that hard...just root it...install system tuner...disable 6 entries...done.

I have never rooted a phone. I do not know how or what is required. I am not computer illiterate so I think that this is something that I can do if I had instructions on how to do it. Where would I start to look for the process of rooting the phone?
What is required to do it?
Hate to loose the warranty on it but I guess that I can always return it to factory default (I think) if I had a problem in the future. I just like this phone too damned much to let it go.

NevetsDrassel said:
I have never rooted a phone. I do not know how or what is required. I am not computer illiterate so I think that this is something that I can do if I had instructions on how to do it. Where would I start to look for the process of rooting the phone?
What is required to do it?
Hate to loose the warranty on it but I guess that I can always return it to factory default (I think) if I had a problem in the future. I just like this phone too damned much to let it go.
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Now we're on to something!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
You'll also want to read up on how to install and use ADB. There are some good guides out there that include videos.

The T-Mobile variant gives you the option of turning off CIQ. I was getting wakelocks from it, but since I've turned it off, it's been as quiet as a church mouse. Not sure if the radios are the same, I don't really know what AT&T uses.

Root it. And leave at&t as soon as it becomes an option because this won't be the last CIQ phone
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Semantics said:
The T-Mobile variant gives you the option of turning off CIQ. I was getting wakelocks from it, but since I've turned it off, it's been as quiet as a church mouse. Not sure if the radios are the same, I don't really know what AT&T uses.
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How do u turn it off?
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bgaccord said:
How do u turn it off?
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System settings, backup, collect diagnostics and uncheck the box.

Semantics said:
The T-Mobile variant gives you the option of turning off CIQ. I was getting wakelocks from it, but since I've turned it off, it's been as quiet as a church mouse. Not sure if the radios are the same, I don't really know what AT&T uses.
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Would like to know this as well.

Dchibro said:
Now we're on to something!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
You'll also want to read up on how to install and use ADB. There are some good guides out there that include videos.
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Well, I read the links. It looks pretty straight forward. Bit confused on some things. On the phone, I can go directly to the "Developers Options" under the main menu and turn that function on or off at will. Why all the hum drum about going into the About Phone menu to the Software Version to hit it 8 to 10 times to get the Developers Options turned on? Also while watching the video on how to root it, I got a bit confused on the "shift right click, open a command window" at 2:08. I do not have that capability. Different OS maybe? Anyways, I can always get a command window through the Start Run menu.
If I root the phone, I know that I can restore it to it original stock based on the first sticky in this forum. However, someone indicated that even if you return it to stock, there will be indications that it was rooted. But I could not tell what version of the phone that he was referencing.
Do I/Should I back up anything first before I start? Not that much on the phone right now, just my Contacts, a couple of pictures, and some apps that I downloaded. Home screen setups and things like that.

m3lover1 said:
Would like to know this as well.
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See the post above yours.
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NevetsDrassel said:
Well, I read the links. It looks pretty straight forward. Bit confused on some things. On the phone, I can go directly to the "Developers Options" under the main menu and turn that function on or off at will. Why all the hum drum about going into the About Phone menu to the Software Version to hit it 8 to 10 times to get the Developers Options turned on? Also while watching the video on how to root it, I got a bit confused on the "shift right click, open a command window" at 2:08. I do not have that capability. Different OS maybe? Anyways, I can always get a command window through the Start Run menu.
If I root the phone, I know that I can restore it to it original stock based on the first sticky in this forum. However, someone indicated that even if you return it to stock, there will be indications that it was rooted. But I could not tell what version of the phone that he was referencing.
Do I/Should I back up anything first before I start? Not that much on the phone right now, just my Contacts, a couple of pictures, and some apps that I downloaded. Home screen setups and things like that.
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Apparntly the VZW variant shows the phone as rooted in about phone. I went through every single menu on the T-Mobile variant and I see nothing to reference that I have rooted my phone.

Oh that was it? I had that turned off when I set up the phone. Lol Thanks

Ok, so once its rooted, what do I do? Where do I delete the files to get rid of carrier iq?

Custom rom; no carrieriq. Besides didn't they change it so it's not that big a deal anymore?

Semantics said:
System settings, backup, collect diagnostics and uncheck the box.
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This is absolutely not listed in the Verizon version. Pretty sure the VS980 has CIQ too.
Sneaky punks... :/
Or just flash a custom stock rom that is debloated and has modded options preinstalled.
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Semantics said:
See the post above yours.
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Apparntly the VZW variant shows the phone as rooted in about phone. I went through every single menu on the T-Mobile variant and I see nothing to reference that I have rooted my phone.
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You might want to double check the T-Mobile app. Under device health it says I'd the phone is rooted.

How to block 4.4.3 OTA on rooted N5?

I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!

IrocD said:
I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!
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Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.

jamel_tza said:
Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.
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IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?

IrocD said:
IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?
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Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!

jamel_tza said:
Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!
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Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!

IrocD said:
Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!
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Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!

Another way would be to download the 4.4.3 factory images and flash system, radio, boot. The random reboots will surely stop. I've not yet seen any app which is compatible with 4.4.2 and isn't with .3
PS: While changing android versions, I always prefer to clean install.

jamel_tza said:
Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!
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Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!

IrocD said:
Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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I have 'em crossed tight! I hope everything works out. If you encounter any problems don't hesitate to report back here.
JT

What does one need to do to root a Verizon Note 5? Why hasn't it been rooted yet?

Hello friends,
I'm in the same boat as many of you -- I purchased several Note 5's new from Verizon and then learned that they are not readily rootable....which prevents me from using their full functionality. Irritating.
I have a decent amount of experience with software development/reverse engineering/breaking things/making things work...but I've never messed around with phone firmware before. Usually I connect directly to the hardware chips via JTAG or similar to dump/upload the modified images. I don't really want to crack these sealed phones open though... surely there must be a way to dump/image the phone via the data port? I've read that Note 5 for other carriers are rootable, so how does dumping/uploading bins work for them? What is different about Verizon's model? Are they requiring digitally signed bins? Also I've seen a few people mention Knox....if Knox is tripped does it blow a fuse or can it be reset?
Thx
A

Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.

If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..

DaRkL3AD3R said:
Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
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Nah it doesn't brick the phone! That's just to scare the crap out of people and make them not even want to risk it period!
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ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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Lol.. I was gonna say hmm, what should one do... HmMmm ... How about read around the the Verizon thread?! Because all those questions have already been answered!

ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of Verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def don't miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i've stuck with Verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, haven't had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who don't want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldn't hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.

pbman1953 said:
I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
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I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.

ratman6161 said:
I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
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Has anyone compared Package Disabler to Debloater?

Yeah, Package Disabler is the way to go (IMO). You don't need a computer as with Debloater. Don't get me wrong, Debloater is great, but it's nice being able to disable apps on the go. Not to mention, Package Disabler allows you to export your lists of disabled apps to an XML file, so you can simply import the list back if you need to (say, after a factory reset). Just my thoughts.
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So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.

pbman1953 said:
So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon

[email protected] said:
Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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It's not rooted yet. There is something in the works, but nothing yet. We haven't given up yet.

[email protected] said:
Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good

TheMadScientist420 said:
no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
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What's a package disabler

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What's a package disabler
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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device

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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone

[email protected] said:
Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
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there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from

TheMadScientist420 said:
there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
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Thank you ill try it out

I soft bricked my Note 5 and then had problems flashing with ODIN. After I was able to flash though, the screen briefly showed an unlocked padlock. Is that typical? Is the bootloader rendered insecure when you upgrade for a brief window?

So I just bought this phone today anything I should do with it?

Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?

WhenSuddenly said:
Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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just go to the guides subforum of a8 2018 and press on the thread that can help u flash twrp lol, all you gotta do is just follow the instructions word by word

WhenSuddenly said:
Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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my words of advice would be to make sure that you need root before you root it. what i mean by that is think about what you stand to gain by rooting it vs the PITA it is to root this thing. Pay close attention to the 168 hour thing as its been a thorn in many a persons side and caused many a headache. Ive had dozens of android phones and all have been rooted with the exception of the HTC Rezound, which required the OMG PITA "wire trick" to root properly. These phones run very well as stock and dont have much bloatware, so rooting them is becoming less necessary. I got mine in july '18 and have been happy with its performance overall so far. Ive reflashed the stock tar.img a few times for varying reasons, and even rooted it. But after losing SPay capability with root, i flashed back to stock as the gains werent worth the losses to me. Also, SHealth is a task to get working after you trip knox btw.

youdoofus said:
my words of advice would be to make sure that you need root before you root it. what i mean by that is think about what you stand to gain by rooting it vs the PITA it is to root this thing. Pay close attention to the 168 hour thing as its been a thorn in many a persons side and caused many a headache. Ive had dozens of android phones and all have been rooted with the exception of the HTC Rezound, which required the OMG PITA "wire trick" to root properly. These phones run very well as stock and dont have much bloatware, so rooting them is becoming less necessary. I got mine in july '18 and have been happy with its performance overall so far. Ive reflashed the stock tar.img a few times for varying reasons, and even rooted it. But after losing SPay capability with root, i flashed back to stock as the gains werent worth the losses to me. Also, SHealth is a task to get working after you trip knox btw.
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Yeah tbh I'm ok with the interface now and aside from making the volume buttons change tracks when you hold them down the only things id need root for is clearing out bloatware etc. I think I'll take your advice and not root it for now (until something breaks) but what is this 168 hour thing?

WhenSuddenly said:
Yeah tbh I'm ok with the interface now and aside from making the volume buttons change tracks when you hold them down the only things id need root for is clearing out bloatware etc. I think I'll take your advice and not root it for now (until something breaks) but what is this 168 hour thing?
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there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.

youdoofus said:
there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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Your wrong your suppose to keep phone on for 168 hours no reboots then oem should show up again.

mchlbenner said:
Your wrong your suppose to keep phone on for 168 hours no reboots then oem should show up again.
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youre*
and youre correct, i said it backwards.

youdoofus said:
there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.

Amirk365 said:
So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
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Hit the toggle and it'll ask for your pw, then you can flash a custom recovery via Odin

Amirk365 said:
So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
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be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me

youdoofus said:
be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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If his oem is showing and if he marks it and follow the directions he will be fine I have been rooted since day one of having it.
I never got locked out.

mchlbenner said:
If his oem is showing and if he marks it and follow the directions he will be fine I have been rooted since day one of having it.
I never got locked out.
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ill never trade my SPay on my watch for root

youdoofus said:
be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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Thanks for the advice,but this isn't my first rodeo with Samsung lol. I messed around with the Verizon S5 alot and was lucky to have the version able to unlock it's bootloader.

Amirk365 said:
Thanks for the advice,but this isn't my first rodeo with Samsung lol. I messed around with the Verizon S5 alot and was lucky to have the version able to unlock it's bootloader.
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA

youdoofus said:
np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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Will you stop telling people that you will mess up phone if you try to root it.
If people follow directions they have nothing to worry about.
You where bootloop not bricked a brick device is usually a unfix able.
If is fine you what to keep Sam pay but your info you are telling is wrong.
I recently unroot my phone guess what Sam pay work fine.
Then root phone again no lock out and enable treble and flashed gsi image.
So their nothing wrong with rooting if you want to do that.

mchlbenner said:
Will you stop telling people that you will mess up phone if you try to root it.
If people follow directions they have nothing to worry about.
You where bootloop not bricked a brick device is usually a unfix able.
If is fine you what to keep Sam pay but your info you are telling is wrong.
I recently unroot my phone guess what Sam pay work fine.
Then root phone again no lock out and enable treble and flashed gsi image.
So their nothing wrong with rooting if you want to do that.
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dude, i dont think youre reading what im saying right. Ive never said that rooting your phone will mess it up. the stuff about the G900V is a DIFFERENT PHONE. FFS. This isnt my first rodeo rooting and modding. Hell, i even was writing mods back in the Evo and S3 days. Im refamiliarizing myself with some of this, but i havent ever said youd mess your phone up if you follow the root instructions. Ill even go as far as saying as long as you dont Odin flash the tar.img for a completely different phone, these things are virtually impossible to hard brick. And yes, a bootloop is referred to as a soft brick. But, it is important to know that if you do root your phone, it WILL make samsung health not work as it did when stock and there is NO WAY of bringing it back without swapping the motherboard

youdoofus said:
np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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Unlocking the bootloader was completely dependent on the type of EMMC chip that the G900V that you had was using. I got three of those and only one was able to unlock after the Marshmallow update.

Amirk365 said:
Unlocking the bootloader was completely dependent on the type of EMMC chip that the G900V that you had was using. I got three of those and only one was able to unlock after the Marshmallow update.
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the last tinkering i did with the G900V was several years ago and that was at the point when all hope was lost on the locked bootloader. I havent looked into it since as the G900's i had were G900P's which were FAR easier to work with. I did also root and ROM a couple G900VL's, but again was years ago

youdoofus said:
the last tinkering i did with the G900V was several years ago and that was at the point when all hope was lost on the locked bootloader. I havent looked into it since as the G900's i had were G900P's which were FAR easier to work with. I did also root and ROM a couple G900VL's, but again was years ago
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Good times. Anyways I'm not rooting for now. Waiting for Pie and see how it goes.

Amirk365 said:
Good times. Anyways I'm not rooting for now. Waiting for Pie and see how it goes.
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good times, yeah LOL!!! major waste of time on those friggin G900V's is more like it yeah, i wouldnt root yet, keep the stock recovery so it automagically updates to pie in a few weeks and manually check for updates every so often to force its hand. Also sammobile.com posts them too if you want to force it on via Odin and trip knox. Anyways, if you get the update in the near future, let us know!