ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
wifi calling is a free utility with this phone I thought (stock or not, doesn't matter) the tether is something they are cracking down on, ways around it with root and something to do with chrome look in the threads around about tethering stopped.
so if i used a wifi tethering app i would not need to have tethering on my plan with t-mobile?
they may still catch it and block you but I read there is a setting oyou can change within your desktop browser to allow it.
you mean the browser on the device you are connecting to your phone?
I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
Just port your number to Google Voice and use Groove IP or Talkatone, currently the top VoIP apps for Android.
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I don't know if they have started charging for free Wi-Fi Calling. That sounds like an oxymoron, but it isn't quite. "Free Wi-Fi Calling" means that minutes used during Wi-Fi Calling are not counted against your monthly allotment. The last I heard (as recently as January, when I had it turned on for my account), they didn't charge for it. If they've changed, it should be called "unlimited Wi-Fi Calling" instead of "free". In either event, you can use it if you have the app in your ROM; the only difference is whether the minutes get charged against your monthly allotment or not.
Being rooted has no effect on the T-Mobile enforcement of your Terms of Service that forbid you to use tethering without a tethering plan. They are apparently now detecting some PC browser user agent strings (reportedly Internet Explorer and Chrome, but not Firefox, for some reason) and blocking access via those browsers by redirecting you to an advertisement for their tethering plan. If you're doing non-browser things (ssh, email, etc.), they probably won't detect that you're tethering. It's reported that changing the browser's user agent string to something other than the default circumvents the T-Mobile detection, although if you use an android browser string, naturally you'll end up on mostly mobile versions of the sites you visit. It's also likely that if you're using a VPN and proxy, that will also prevent their detection of your tethering.
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that makes the most sense and i have also read that about changing the user agent string. but if im tethering an android tablet would there be anything to change? that was my goal with wifi tethering, use my phone as a hotspot for my tablet (when i finally get one)
dodgefan67 said:
ok, so on my tmo plan i got a deal where if i got the 5gb plan for 30 a month they threw in free tethering and free wifi calling
my question is, with using rooted roms, do i need to have those on my plan? in other words, if i drop my data plan to 2gb a month i loose the free wifi and tethering but i though or read somewhere that using a rooted rom i have those functions anyway
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T-Mobile is cracking down lately. Regardless of what ROM you are running, if you drop your free tethering plan, you are going to have to screw around with changing the User Agent on your laptop/tablet to avoid being blocked.
I use my phone for tethering with the tablet. You'll use the 5gb once you start doin it. They charge for the tethering plan now, so you're better off leaving it so you'll be grandfathered in for next upgrade.
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Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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You may not always be near a WiFi hotspot. The park, the beach, working in your car, etc.
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Probably a dumb question but what is the benefits of tethering vs wifi hotspot?
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there are two ways to tether a device, usb and wifi. usb is obvious, you connect your phone to your laptop and your laptop uses your phone like a modem or router to get internet access
wifi hotspot is the same just through wifi, its like your wireless router at home
think usb tethering=network cable, wifi tethering=wireless router
Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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Well I meant this phone has wifi hotspot on it why not use that vs tethering or does it still amount to that in terms of data usage?
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i think it doesnt matter
but some devices cant connect to a wifi hotspot, granted most laptops or handheld devices do have wifi, some older laptops may not and may be able to use usb tethering. you can also use it on a pc that probably doesnt have wifi
Ah alright, never used either of them so wasn't sure why everything I see is about tethering on the phone and nothing about the hotspot
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no worries, they are in the same place in the settings, under tethering and wifi hotspot, they kinda do the same thing. i use my wifi hotspot with my kindle fire
I believe on stock ROMs (including rooted), unless you freeze or uninstall some app that TMobile installed that monitors whether you're using tethering or hotspotting. That's their easy way to detect whether you're tethering, they may also sniff your packets for the user agent info, but I'm not sure if they go through that much trouble. Besides most data plans have limits now, they shouldn't care how those gigabytes are used.
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I'm still using 2.2.2 stock. When I connect via WiFi, a banner pops up stating calling on WiFi counts against your normal minutes. In other words, your call plan minutes apply with either their towers or WiFi. Makes some sense, as you have to use their Call Manager/Session Manager to route the call...
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In more recent stock ROMs the message has changed to read, "may use minutes with certain plans." As I said, at least as recently as January, free Wi-Fi Calling was a no-charge add-on to the plan -- just call up customer service and ask to have it turned on. (I hadn't bothered before then because I never came close to using up all my minutes, but in January I added my son to my family plan when he switched over from AT&T, and at that point it became important. )
I have a grandfather unlimited data plan on AT&T with a LG G2 LG-D800 rooted. Attempting to enable phones ability to enable WiFi hotspot with third party app. Following posts I downloading sqlite and discovered the path was unavailable. Further posts direct enabling WiFi hotspot which fails as my service provider disables this function as well as it changes the status of my grandfathered plan. In trying to enable WiFi hotspot I receive a message after inputting a WiFi password
"Authentication was unsuccessful. To enable mobile hotspot on this device, go to att.com/mywireless or dial 611"
I downloaded sqlite for the specific purpose of enabling WiFi hotspot....any help to make my $2.99 purchase worthwhile is appreciated
are you shure work in android 5?
i usead sql edit in android 4 evry is ok but in lilpot not worked
Has anyone been able to tether from this phone without using the data from the tethering bucket?
In other words, Were you able to tether from it and use the data from the data bucket?
I have unlimited data with 3gb of tether. I would use the data from my unlimited data bucket to tether.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can use easytether however the full version is a paid app...this is confirmed to work with my older t-mobile grandfathered account which has unlimited 3g/h+ and no hotspot/tethering. It requires running an app on the pc side since it uses adb to build the connection. (usb and under windows also bluetooth).
Were you able to create a new APN by clicking on the + sign in the "tethering and hotspot" section?
You can just use the official lollipop tether. Doesn't count towards t-mobile tether data usage. Pulled down 25 gigs yesterday with no issues
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Hey guys, has anybody had any issues with Sprint's "UNLIMITED" LTE network? They sent me a data notice because data abuse. Is there any way to workaround this problem? Never had this problem. Thanks
Never seen that before. What plan are you on (old unlimited plan or new unlimited freedom plan)? How much data did you use?
i have the old unlimited plan $10 more to each line. I have been with sprint for 10 years. I currently have no contract with them. I used about 100 to 200 GB
Were you using a significant chunk of data in hotspot mode? I vaguely recall (from an online discussion years ago) that even with an unlimited plan and even if hotspotting is authorized on your account, Sprint can ban you if your hotspot data usage is higher than X% of your total usage or if it exceeds Y GB. I don't remember X or Y.
I understand but is there a workaround this problem? Something that won't let them notice ?
I don't know, but if too much hotspot-based data is triggering Sprint's warning, then MAYBE, MAYBE:
1) Running through a hotspot VPN app would blind Sprint to the type of data that's being used. (I once read that PC/Mac web-calls leave different footprints that Sprint can detect.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.free.vpn.proxy.vpnhotspot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hotspotshield.android.vpn
2) Or if the Galaxy S5's built-in Hotspot software is reporting its data usage to Sprint, then maybe a 3rd party hotspot app would help.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.core.technology.wifi.hotspot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxfi
Thanks! Yes I used a lot of data in hotspot mode. But would I be able to use the unlimited data with these apps in hotspot mode without them noticing? Also I have a custom ROM.
there is no workaround to their "data abuse". Even though they tout their plans as unlimited, there is a limit. They will always refer back to their TOS (terms of service). Sprint has a very tight grip on their data in certain areas as they lease their airtime from other carriers towers. Good luck with your plight, youre not going to win this data war with sprint
Does anybody know if the ClockworkMod Tether app would work since it's connected via usb? how could i know if they're tracking me by pc browsers or are they tracking by data usage?
each browser has its own signature it uses when connecting to a site, so they can tell if its a mobile device or not. Some APKs mask the data usage at the app level
hey i found some info on editing the TTL on your pc. but i found it on a Tmobile base network. I have no idea if it would work? Just wanted to make sure before i do. thanks
The TTL has nothing to do with masking the source of data, it just tells routers how many hops the packet can make on the network.
If you ran a proxy app on the PC (like UltraSurf) or a VPN, I wonder if that would completely mask transmission data from Sprint.
please let me know it it works or if there is any other apps that may work
Anyone on a Verizon grandfathered unlimited plan try the hotspot? I know Foxfi doesn't work on Android 7.0 for wireless tether, however I tried the mobile hotspot and it checks and says my hotspot is enabled and starts. Works great, checked my Verizon features and I am not subscribed to any tethering plans. Not sure what to do with it, anyone else try this? Will we get billed for this?
I'm wondering the same... I want to make sure before in go all in on this phone that this key feature is enabled while I remain on old unlimited plan.
Thanks!
I'm still grandfather unlimited and it tells me I need to subscribe to the hot spot service.
PDAnet?
Likewise, has anyone tried PDAnet with it for tethering?
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Tells me to subscribe
just got an s8+ today and found out that the native hotspot will work if you pop sim tray out, it will then take you to lock screen, pull down tray and turn on hotspot. You may get an error saying no sim installed but just keep pushing hotspot button until it turns on. It is working on mine now but now I am trying to figure out how I can disable ota updates. Anyone have any help for me? Thanks