Buying used z5 Dual - What to check - Xperia Z5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am looking at a used Z5. I have checked the IMEIs to confirm it is not blacklisted but I am not familiar with Sony.
With Samsung, the phone info app would give me everything I need, but what about Sony? Is DRM like Samsung Knox? How do I check it? Anything else I should look for?
Thanks in advance.

026TB4U said:
I am looking at a used Z5. I have checked the IMEIs to confirm it is not blacklisted but I am not familiar with Sony.
With Samsung, the phone info app would give me everything I need, but what about Sony? Is DRM like Samsung Knox? How do I check it? Anything else I should look for?
Thanks in advance.
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DRM keys are licenses information for software like camera , x reality and 4k to check whether keys are in place or not. if DRM keys are not in place, premium feature of some of the preinstalled Sony software wont work to its optimum.
well you can sort of compare KNOX with SONY-RIC. The Sony's very own security system within android and if anyone tries to bypass that, Sony-RIC either reboots the device onspot or it shutsdown in order to stop hacking attempts.
Sony phones are pretty sophisticated and unlike samsung sony believes in "keep it simple" policy, so lot of info you might not get with pre installed apps., few of my friends coming from iphone, hated sony, others who came from samsung, dislike sony in the begining but soon they got used to it. ( i am talking about z5)

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Will T-Mobile USA Variant Have a Locked Bootloader?

Self explanatory title.
All signs point to yes
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If so, I'm out.
I just read that in the us the phone will be unlocked
Where? The Z1s was not unlockable. There is no precedence that you can unlock it.
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jonshipman said:
Where? The Z1s was not unlockable. There is no precedence that you can unlock it.
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http://www.christiantoday.com/article/sony.xperia.z3.compact.release.date.asia.us.launch/40791.htm
It was saying sim unlocked for the Z3 Compact via Sony USA. Bootloader unlocked means loading new kernels by going to developer.sony.com.
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jonshipman said:
All signs point to yes
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Yikes.
bbot3k said:
Yikes.
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It will still be rootable, though.
We can still root it, though.
Why is that a problem
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Why is that a problem
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If you're a developer, an unlocked bootloader is good as you have more tools too use.
As a consumer, if Sony stops updating after a year you have the potential to install homebrew and extend the life of your hardware.
For me, personally, it isn't a big deal. Last phone I unlocked was the HTC One X. Mainly for bloatwear, backups, and updates (I believe I had to flash GTalk to get a video calling version, but that might have been the Xperia Play). But now I can adb backup and disable apps. Google App updates now happen through the Play store so I think the biggest need for consumer unlocking is almost nil. If you keep a phone 3 years+ you may want to unlock for custom ROMs.
It's not like Sony isn't providing the option, just get the OEM model instead of the carrier model.
Don_Perrignon said:
We can still root it, though.
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Says who? The Z1s took AGES to root. I mean like 6 months...
jonshipman said:
If you're a developer, an unlocked bootloader is good as you have more tools too use.
As a consumer, if Sony stops updating after a year you have the potential to install homebrew and extend the life of your hardware.
For me, personally, it isn't a big deal. Last phone I unlocked was the HTC One X. Mainly for bloatwear, backups, and updates (I believe I had to flash GTalk to get a video calling version, but that might have been the Xperia Play). But now I can adb backup and disable apps. Google App updates now happen through the Play store so I think the biggest need for consumer unlocking is almost nil. If you keep a phone 3 years+ you may want to unlock for custom ROMs.
It's not like Sony isn't providing the option, just get the OEM model instead of the carrier model.
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GIven that it looks like Sony will also be selling an unlocked model, it's highly likely that THAT model will be more "developer oriented" and therefore bootloader-unlocked.
T-Mobile phones generally don't need or want 3rd party ROMs, because T-Mobile users like to hang onto WiFi calling. So it makes sense to lock that bootloader.
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GIven that it looks like Sony will also be selling an unlocked model, it's highly likely that THAT model will be more "developer oriented" and therefore bootloader-unlocked.
T-Mobile phones generally don't need or want 3rd party ROMs, because T-Mobile users like to hang onto WiFi calling. So it makes sense to lock that bootloader.
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In regards to the unlocked version, will ther ebe a 32 gb version? I have AT&T currently and I am not very interested in switching carriers to T-Mo (even if they provide Wi-Fi calling).
aooga said:
Says who? The Z1s took AGES to root. I mean like 6 months...
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Took ages for public release. Took very little fire someone to achieve it. One of the main reasons for delay was that the Z2 was around the corner and some security mobile event. The Z3 should be getting released within a relatively close time for each country.
Vaga Liki said:
In regards to the unlocked version, will ther ebe a 32 gb version? I have AT&T currently and I am not very interested in switching carriers to T-Mo (even if they provide Wi-Fi calling).
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whitepaper says D6616(t-mobile specific version) up to 32GB, everyone else up to 16GB
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
Truthfully, doesn't matter to me anymore. My Z1s showed me an Android experience I didn't want to modify, if the Z3 is the same then I'm perfectly fine with a locked bootloader. I understand why a lot of people don't like it, but for me, Sony does Android right. The ONLY reason I rooted my Z1s after the 4.4.4 update was when I decided I wanted to screen mirror to my Chromecast (which requires root since it's not enabled on the Z1s by default), and this was at least a month after the 4.4.4 update. I dunno, I just don't want to tinker anymore, and the Z1s works very very well for that. And seeing as the battery life on the Z3 is nothing short of amazing, I'll probably get it regardless of bootloader status. Or maybe I'll get the Z3 compact...
I got an email yesterday to pre register for the Z3 on TMo, unfortunately I am on VZW so it doesnt help me at all. Just thought I would let u TMo users know that its on its way to being a reality. Check ur emails.
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I got an email yesterday to pre register for the Z3 on TMo, unfortunately I am on VZW so it doesnt help me at all. Just thought I would let u TMo users know that its on its way to being a reality. Check ur emails.
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Yeah, they said a few weeks still though. Mid october is my guess.

CM12 with locked Bootloader actually possible?

After 5.0 hits all the Z3 devices i wonder if its actually possible to have a locked bootloader with functional DRM Keys on a Custom rom like CM12?
Sorry for this dumb question i am actually really new on all this android stuff! switched from an iphone 5 but i love my xperia Z3
greetings and thanks for the reply
n1ete said:
After 5.0 hits all the Z3 devices i wonder if its actually possible to have a locked bootloader with functional DRM Keys on a Custom rom like CM12?
Sorry for this dumb question i am actually really new on all this android stuff! switched from an iphone 5 but i love my xperia Z3
greetings and thanks for the reply
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In short no. It requires a working kexec and that has not been able for about 18 months now
OK, thank you for this answer! so how hard will it be to archive this goal? any possibilities ?
n1ete said:
After 5.0 hits all the Z3 devices i wonder if its actually possible to have a locked bootloader with functional DRM Keys on a Custom rom like CM12?
Sorry for this dumb question i am actually really new on all this android stuff! switched from an iphone 5 but i love my xperia Z3
greetings and thanks for the reply
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There are no need for features protected by DRM keys.
CM don't have those things...
That's the whole purposes of DRM keys...to hide Sonys features and innovations from third parties..
When you are using CM ROM or something that's not stock or stock based you don't have X-reality or stock camera app with low light processing, at least not developed by Sony...
DRM keys are overrated...That's just mechanism to protect code...nothing special...
So when you unlock bootloader system will wipe some of parts so other manufacturers or developers can't see what's under the hood and can't take that and implement them into their work...
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True about DRM
But as for getting a working kexec, a lot of good people have tried and seem to keep getting stuck with the problem that we just do not have Sony's keys. Without them its impossible*. I would not hold out any hopes for anything soon....
*Obviously nothing is impossible, I could break RSA code given a powerful enough computer and few thousand years...
If you can backup the TA partition with a root exploit before unlocking the bootloader can you not extract the keys from that partition?
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Bansheleh said:
If you can backup the TA partition with a root exploit before unlocking the bootloader can you not extract the keys from that partition?
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The TA partition is signed such that if you restore a TA partition with valid DRM keys, you also restore the bootloader lock. If you try to alter it in order to have an unlocked bootloader and DRM keys, the signature check fails and you've got a hardbrick.
Entropy512 said:
The TA partition is signed such that if you restore a TA partition with valid DRM keys, you also restore the bootloader lock. If you try to alter it in order to have an unlocked bootloader and DRM keys, the signature check fails and you've got a hardbrick.
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The DRM keys seems to be endless mantra here... I will make an educated guess... People who invested almost 600€ into top notch phone and are keen on Sony bells and whistles will prefer to stay on stock with possibility to root on locked bootloader. People who develop CM or AOSP have other motivation than keeping on Sony proprietary code. They want they excellent hardware to run open and clean system. So they will not invest their time and efforts into breaking DRM for couple of low-light picture and X-reality frenzy. Not to speak about legal implications.. So in my opinion we are not going to see DRM protected code running on CM or elsewhere. And that's right. What is Cesar's belongs to Cesar.
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ondrejvaroscak said:
The DRM keys seems to be endless mantra here... I will make an educated guess... People who invested almost 600€ into top notch phone and are keen on Sony bells and whistles will prefer to stay on stock with possibility to root on locked bootloader. People who develop CM or AOSP have other motivation than keeping on Sony proprietary code. They want they excellent hardware to run open and clean system. So they will not invest their time and efforts into breaking DRM for couple of low-light picture and X-reality frenzy. Not to speak about legal implications.. So in my opinion we are not going to see DRM protected code running on CM or elsewhere. And that's right. What is Cesar's belongs to Cesar.
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Yeah, the only real "loss" from losing the DRM keys for many of us is that frequently Sony's cam blobs outright fail without DRM keys - and our approach to that is more political - we're trying to cooperate with Sony's devrel team to get their production firmware teams to stop making cam HALs that break catastrophically on unlocked devices.
A lot of us were REALLY annoyed when a GPE device (ZU GPE) had the camera break on unlocked devices. The problem is, working with the TA partition is fundamentally dangerous, and Sony does a GREAT job of bootloader security. Over the years, bootloader unlock exploits have become rarer and rarer and it just isn't worth the effort. There's a lot less effort and risk in unbreaking the cam HALs.
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Yeah, the only real "loss" from losing the DRM keys for many of us is that frequently Sony's cam blobs outright fail without DRM keys - and our approach to that is more political - we're trying to cooperate with Sony's devrel team to get their production firmware teams to stop making cam HALs that break catastrophically on unlocked devices.
A lot of us were REALLY annoyed when a GPE device (ZU GPE) had the camera break on unlocked devices. The problem is, working with the TA partition is fundamentally dangerous, and Sony does a GREAT job of bootloader security. Over the years, bootloader unlock exploits have become rarer and rarer and it just isn't worth the effort. There's a lot less effort and risk in unbreaking the cam HALs.
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I understand the Sony politics but I am honestly convinced that they would greatly benefit from Open Source development community of they wouldn't make such big obstructions on codebase. Z series are amazing devices and would be even better with clean open high performance bloat free system.
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just a heads up, last day to unlock your bootloader, get your keys now

https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
dladz said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
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Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
Jonathan-H said:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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:good: Yep ok mate.
Jonathan-H said:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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yup. some people may not LIKE that you can't root a phone, but the actual percentage of those that won't actually buy the phone for this reason is minuscule.
otherwise, the first time a phone manufacturer sees their sales actually explode after releasing unlooked bootloaders, they'd always unlock it, but that's simply not the case
Ok I think you're being quite short sighted here, allow me to explain a little.
People who root their phones, usually the same ones who mod and develop ROMs and love a tinker, generally speaking the techie in the family, the one who your family tends to turn to when they have an upgrade come around or need something fixing.
Those very same people are more than likely to recommend a phone which has the ability to root, bootloader unlock and modify than they are one which has a completely locked down eco system.
You can say what you like, you can say I'm full of it, but I've seen how people react to a company changing its principles in regards to bootloader unlocking, HTC did this once, they then reversed their decision after seeing an immediate decline in sales, not solely due to the device either, it was the people's influence which caused it, then after two not so great phones later, they were a struggling company, and make no mistake, HTC was a colossal company which was on the up and up, bare in mind they made a lot of what android is today.
Huawei are making the exact same mistake because they overlooked how important that 1% is and the influence that they have over the vast majority of other users who value their opinion and will commit to a purchase on their say so.
It doesn't matter if you believe me, it's just an observation I've witnessed when HTC made the same decision.
Sure they'll continue, they make other components as well as phones, in all fairness they could stop selling phones and still survive.
But for XDA, for development, for what we know today of Huawei devices? Lol If you think it's quiet here on the p20 pro forum, wait til you see the ghost town of a thread there will be for the p30 and pro, I doubt there will be a single ROM, no Dev would be dumb enough to buy it.
**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
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Damn.
You may still be able to do something , there was a guide on the above link posted by a user which can unlock the bootloader by all accounts.
This phone is quite a beast and there could and should be another way in the future.
Plus Huawei will probably reverse their decision, that's not confirmed by any means but I think they will.
Funky Huawei ( which is normally not what I'd recommend) will probably see a lot more action now that official unlocks are gone too.
Don't worry too much, if it's still possible someone will find out.
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Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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Please see the fifth post in this thread. That's all i have to say on that matter.
You're right in what you're saying, they however are wrong in what they're doing and they'll find that out the hard way.
Rheumatoid said:
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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That's cool :good:
Good thinking
Rheumatoid said:
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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It only works with your phone
LSHA1980 said:
It only works with your phone
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Got it
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
yabbadabbadoo said:
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
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you can still get a code today
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you can still get a code today
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How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
yabbadabbadoo said:
How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
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Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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I wouldn't now personally
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Same question here. I have my Twilight P20 Pro lying here, unused since release in fact (so way past the return window) and meant to give it to my wife, but only with Root Tools (Adaway, YT Vanced etc.)
I missed the window since I was traveling and support won't help me.
I get it, my fault for not doing it in time but what now? I wouldn't mind paying for it, as the only other option appears to be selling the device at a huge loss (I paid full retail) and finding a different phone altogether.

Bad news ahead for us...

Not seen this posted on here yet...
https://www.irishtech.ie/huawei-community-unlock-dismember/
It's a confirmation to not rebuy any other phone from Huawei... That all for those who want a full control of the device.
For the major part of users, there no problem. The phone will survive to 1 - 3 years of daily use and that all...
This was my first and last Huawei device. F*ck em!
This was posted in may.....
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Its an old news, just different writing.
well, this is my last huawei phone after all.
i will never buy phone which cant be unlocked/rooted
so xiaomi, nokia or oneplus it is
It's a decent article. I wish there were more.
Needless to say, no more Huawei.
.... For me.
lol is this legit? I doubt it is..
The patch01 was not intended to bork Magisk, just an accidental side effect.
It's really simple to make it work again - Just make sure AVB 2.0/DM-Verity is ticked before flashing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...systemless-t3432382/post77560239#post77560239
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lol is this legit? I doubt it is..
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It is legit but fixable apparently
Edit just read post above. There u go
krs360 said:
The patch01 was not intended to bork Magisk, just an accidental side effect.
It's really simple to make it work again - Just make sure AVB 2.0/DM-Verity is ticked before flashing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...systemless-t3432382/post77560239#post77560239
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like krs360 said, the patch wasn't to break magisk at all, what patch did was it accidentaly patched something magisk sems to have used or when patch was applied it could of writen over a file that magisk edited. Which then made phone unbootable with magisk.
It's like rooting phone and then run a update can also make the root vanish, since it writes over files that rooting has edited to enable the root access.
Come oooon.... This can't be real dudes...
I bought a Sony Xperia, rooted it and ****ed up my camera because of the DRM key problem. So I invested my time and ****ed the Sony security functionality, hacked their bootloader checks and patched it to get a working DRM fix. Result was: XperiFIX was born and Sony hates me.
Now I bought a P20 Pro and Huawei ****s me up with their change related to unlock codes. Damn... Seriously... This must be a sign. Hahahaha...
What about the name "HuFIX"? Hahaha...
Shiiiiiit... I think I have to spend some time on Huawei now.
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Come oooon.... This can't be real dudes...
I bought a Sony Xperia, rooted it and ****ed up my camera because of the DRM key problem. So I invested my time and ****ed the Sony security functionality, hacked their bootloader checks and patched it to get a working DRM fix. Result was: XperiFIX was born and Sony hates me.
Now I bought a P20 Pro and Huawei ****s me up with their change related to unlock codes. Damn... Seriously... This must be a sign. Hahahaha...
What about the name "HuFIX"? Hahaha...
Shiiiiiit... I think I have to spend some time on Huawei now.
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I wonder if sony warned other manufactures about you xD, so huawei decided to stop providing bootloader unlock codes, because they knew you where coming lol

How to root the G970U?

What's the best guide to root the G970U? I'm finding guides for the Exynos variant but not so much for this one. Have even read that it can't be rooted or it isn't supported so far :crying:
As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I would not recommend it. The form factor and specs are all great, although the battery is a bit on the small side. It has automated power savings features, except you can't control those easily with Tasker (you can with Bixby, but most of its profile triggers are pretty limited). And the power savings features appear to mute Google navigation when the screen shuts off.
But after being on custom roms since basically the beginning, One UI has been a gigantic pain to learn where all the settings are (and getting around not being rooted to do things I like/need). I could go on and on.
I put off upgrading for years for a smaller phone with decent specs. This was about the only option for me. I'd definitely recommend the Exynos version, but that's a no-go if you're in the US.
Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
I can't root Samsung Galaxy S10e Snapdragon.
I already unlocked oem lock, kg lock.
But I can't find the right twrp for beyond0q. (no lte)
The office twrp is only beyond0qlte. It is no usable.
I flash TWRP_G9700_3.3.1-9.tar success.
but I don't know why I install magisk failed.
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Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
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rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
I would like to root just so I can have control over my phone, but I guess those Android days are over here in the US. ?
And it's sad because this phone is almost perfect. Having the fingerprint reader on the back and giving it a normal power button would make it so. Every company out there is a churning out overpriced phablets with a load of junk we don't need nor care for.
I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I have a terrible problem hitting the Bixby and Volume keys when I try to press the power button. I had to use a re-mapping function to disable single & long press on Bixby.
Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do, finally, with Tasker. A few things I need AutoInput for (which is far from ideal, unless it's a task you can do late at night when you aren't using your phone).
The single task I couldn't do satisfactorily was custom charging limits to try to save battery since I charge my phone overnight. That can only be done with root! Although this could maybe be accomplished by toggling the USB connection from charging to file transfer. But obviously that's not an option with wireless charging.
kodiak799 said:
...Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do...
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Please do start a thread. Once I get my s10e I can contribute what I've been able to do using the few tools I'm familiar with.
tombbb said:
Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
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Got a link for that guide? I dont care so much for having a custom rom flasher. I just want to root.
I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
wseverin said:
I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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cuteness...
judaxxx said:
cuteness...
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
wseverin said:
Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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judaxxx said:
cuteness...
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This answer is kinda condescending and not helpful. I get it's a pain to explain the birds and bees all the time, but it's even more of a pain to browse hundreds of non-answers on XDA to find info.
@wseverin he's basically saying that the G970U/1 doesn't have an OEM switch in developer settings because it's not *factory unlockable*. Generally, only the EU, by forcing telecoms and Samsung through legislation, have phones with unlockable bootloaders.
Truth is, there IS a way to root the US version of the 10e. You can find various threads on XDA of people referring to Telegram channels where they'll charge you money to remotely root your phone.
They do this through either various hardware/software dongle bundles, or ENG firmware. The S7 / G930U was rooted with an ENG firmware flash - at the expense of battery life.
In this thread they talk specifically about using ENG firmware to unlock the bootloader of the G970U: https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1...sm-g975-sm-g973-sm-g970-2570127/#post13639840
For US devices the only solution is by flashing an eng-boot + script if it exists for your particular device/version.
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Whether or not that would work, I don't know. I've ordered a couple of S10e to test on. But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
nick2012 said:
But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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Thanks for these infos which haven't been shared on XDA yet.
IMO those with the knowledge to root the G970U think that they can make more profit by selling the rooting service for 100 or 200 $ per phone than to collect the bounty (although I think that they are wrong with this.)
I'm quite annoyed by the posts on XDA which advertise the paid rooting service (like "contact me per PM to get further infos"), although I can't really care as an Exynos user.
Has anyone found a way to root sm-g970U in 2021 for android 11? or its just not worth the effort
No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
Strifelolz said:
No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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Lol i know how you feel but dont because trust me if youre a root fan you arent gonna enjoy it tbh i sold mine like a few weeks after i got it and im just planning to get an Iphone and use it for the forseable future until i change my mind. If you love root dont buy the S or Note devices buy the j or A but if you dont like those i know because they are low end devices sometimes especially for a gamer..... so intead probably get a poco phone one of the newer ones with a snapdragon 860 or a xiaomi with flagship tier performance etc because i know xiaomi and google pixels there bootloaders can be opened and the warranty isnt voided permanently.... meaning once you unroot you get back warranty atleast thats what im sure ive noted.

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