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So I just picked up a refurbished Sprint v20. It is currently at zv3 so i'll be able to use Dirty Santa. My issue is do I? I know there's no going back since there isnt a factory image for Sprint.
If you've unlocked, are you happy you did so?
Very happy. but im biased since i made it...
Well, I didn't need much convincing. Thanks! Very smooth process, it's really nice to actually have TWRP on a lg phone again. Haven't had that since my LG G2.
yea it was a no brainer for me coming from a sgs7e , i hated the fact i could not do nanddroids or flash custom roms, i love my v20.
Bootloader possibly unlocked
So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
Mysticblaze347 said:
So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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I wouldn't hold my breath, at most they may unlock the sim, the bootloader I doubt it
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Good luck, first time I've ever heard sprint voluntarily unlock a bootloader
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Any news?
Any news?
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Any news?
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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cnjax said:
You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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If it wasn't for antirollback (all other firmware, except the h918 which has a different key so no other variant can flash it, is antirollback 0) you could, but the way it is you'd brick if you forced it on there.
Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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What one?
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clsA said:
You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
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It does not have the dual cam, and removable battery like the v20. I have my reasons. Believe me . Only issue is Sprint not being able to root...supposedly. Pro_Granade kinda has my hopes up atm lol
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
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Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
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I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
Going to give it a chance.
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In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
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In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Since the phone is treble enabled we can use GSI. So theres no "real" need to have an active development community dedicated for this phone only.
dladz said:
Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
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You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
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Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty? And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly?
Propulsion said:
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty?
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When used yes.
Propulsion said:
And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly
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You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
kaiowas82 said:
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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I logged in first time tbh on the first day I got the phone lucky I guess.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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The Italian one, starts with a p but they should all be ok.
danifilth4king said:
You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
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Nah me neither, think it's L29 or nothing.
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When used yes.
You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
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Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Got it to work, just needed to make phones original dialer default dialer... And, well, knowing me, I'm just moments away from unlocking bootloader and rooting
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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I used the one packaged with the all in one tool in one of these threads, its not the official one.
This thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...l-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3779416/page9
dladz said:
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Yea I've got it pal, all good. Triple back up.
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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There's another site that does them.
Can't recall the name.
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
wivelden said:
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
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It is but rooting etc has its benefits, you've only got to go on a few threads here to see that.
Plus who knows what the future holds plus treble is always an option
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
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Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
Jonathan-H said:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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:good: Yep ok mate.
Jonathan-H said:
Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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yup. some people may not LIKE that you can't root a phone, but the actual percentage of those that won't actually buy the phone for this reason is minuscule.
otherwise, the first time a phone manufacturer sees their sales actually explode after releasing unlooked bootloaders, they'd always unlock it, but that's simply not the case
Ok I think you're being quite short sighted here, allow me to explain a little.
People who root their phones, usually the same ones who mod and develop ROMs and love a tinker, generally speaking the techie in the family, the one who your family tends to turn to when they have an upgrade come around or need something fixing.
Those very same people are more than likely to recommend a phone which has the ability to root, bootloader unlock and modify than they are one which has a completely locked down eco system.
You can say what you like, you can say I'm full of it, but I've seen how people react to a company changing its principles in regards to bootloader unlocking, HTC did this once, they then reversed their decision after seeing an immediate decline in sales, not solely due to the device either, it was the people's influence which caused it, then after two not so great phones later, they were a struggling company, and make no mistake, HTC was a colossal company which was on the up and up, bare in mind they made a lot of what android is today.
Huawei are making the exact same mistake because they overlooked how important that 1% is and the influence that they have over the vast majority of other users who value their opinion and will commit to a purchase on their say so.
It doesn't matter if you believe me, it's just an observation I've witnessed when HTC made the same decision.
Sure they'll continue, they make other components as well as phones, in all fairness they could stop selling phones and still survive.
But for XDA, for development, for what we know today of Huawei devices? Lol If you think it's quiet here on the p20 pro forum, wait til you see the ghost town of a thread there will be for the p30 and pro, I doubt there will be a single ROM, no Dev would be dumb enough to buy it.
**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
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Damn.
You may still be able to do something , there was a guide on the above link posted by a user which can unlock the bootloader by all accounts.
This phone is quite a beast and there could and should be another way in the future.
Plus Huawei will probably reverse their decision, that's not confirmed by any means but I think they will.
Funky Huawei ( which is normally not what I'd recommend) will probably see a lot more action now that official unlocks are gone too.
Don't worry too much, if it's still possible someone will find out.
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Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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Please see the fifth post in this thread. That's all i have to say on that matter.
You're right in what you're saying, they however are wrong in what they're doing and they'll find that out the hard way.
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Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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That's cool :good:
Good thinking
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Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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It only works with your phone
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It only works with your phone
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Got it
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
yabbadabbadoo said:
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
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you can still get a code today
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you can still get a code today
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How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
yabbadabbadoo said:
How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
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Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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I wouldn't now personally
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Same question here. I have my Twilight P20 Pro lying here, unused since release in fact (so way past the return window) and meant to give it to my wife, but only with Root Tools (Adaway, YT Vanced etc.)
I missed the window since I was traveling and support won't help me.
I get it, my fault for not doing it in time but what now? I wouldn't mind paying for it, as the only other option appears to be selling the device at a huge loss (I paid full retail) and finding a different phone altogether.
hey guys,
has anyone found out about root or the possibility?
unfortunately I haven't found anything yet
Tim
unix2208 said:
hey guys,
has anyone found out about root or the possibility?
unfortunately I haven't found anything yet
Tim
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The last time an Oppo phone was rootable was the find 7 which was a oneplus one twin. I don't think BBK Electronics has changed their strategy unless you know or heard something different?
This is such a shame as I really like the phone from the reviews. I don't think I would ever pick up a phone that I can't root.
Kruzkal said:
This is such a shame as I really like the phone from the reviews. I don't think I would ever pick up a phone that I can't root.
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Amen. I could currently get it for an effective €600 (which would be crazy value) but no root, no bootloader unlock for custom-roms? WTF
This bloke on youtube thinks he has it rooted.. maybe fake though..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVKKnKZObJg
The fact that the video says that you cannot update Magisk as the bootloader is still locked makes me think it might be legit..
Considering it is all done within the Android OS it is probably safe to try.. you might just have to factory reset if it causes issues.
Another option?
https://legitroot.com/how-to-root-oppo-find-x2-pro/
i am the same.. i really like the phone though Root is essential.
Could there be any downside to root my phone now (with Magisk) as if I were doing it later?
Is it possible that future versions of Magisk (or any other rooting method) will retain more original factory features (Google Pay, Samsung Pay, Widevien DRM etc...?
Or is this very unlikely?
At least everything related to Knox (e.g. Samsung Pay, Secure Folder....) will not work any more once unlocked and rooted - even if relocking and going back to full stock.
GPay should work now..... but this is judging from my experience with other current phones, still waiting for Samsung to deliver my S22U
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At least everything related to Knox (e.g. Samsung Pay, Secure Folder....) will not work any more once unlocked and rooted - even if relocking and going back to full stock.
GPay should work now..... but this is judging from my experience with other current phones, still waiting for Samsung to deliver my S22U
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What about warranty ? does unlocking bootloader or rooting or flashing custom rom break he warranty ?
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What about warranty ? does unlocking bootloader or rooting or flashing custom rom break he warranty ?
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Yes
Does relocking your bootloader revert to allowing you to use bank apps once again?
nabil427 said:
What about warranty ? does unlocking bootloader or rooting or flashing custom rom break he warranty ?
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I definitely want to root my phone to gain maximum control over it.
The conrol over my phone is more important to me than the warranty.
As far as I know sadly until now Knox was never bypassed.
s3axel said:
Yes
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I wish someone could find a solution to bypass Knox.
dj24 said:
Does relocking your bootloader revert to allowing you to use bank apps once again?
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I have read that banking apps work on rooted devices. You do not need to relock your bootloader.
Alibab said:
I have read that banking apps work on rooted devices. You do not need to relock your bootloader.
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They do, at least on my recently rooted phones and for the apps I use.... Safetynet passes, Gpay ist working fine....
But this is the usual cat&mouse game , actually for the S22U my intention is to try going unrooted - we'll see how long this holds
Alibab said:
Is it possible that future versions of Magisk ...?
Or is this very unlikely?
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Indeed we have no idea about "future of magisk" so don't rely on future verion of magisk
If you want to root, just look into current scenario and decide you want to root or not. As of now (On OneUI 4.0 on other devices) Samsung Pay & Samung Pass (and Knox thingy) doesn't work. Though it doen't mean everything other works, still you needs to patch multiple things like Samsung Health, Secure folder, Private sharing and may be more. Also many apps may not work but you needs to hide them with magisk (Still no guarantee it will work)
So my pesonal advice is to before jumping to rooting, read as much possible rooting and magisk thread. Rooting is one way, once you trip knox, it's for forever and some stuff never work again even after relocking bootloader.
Alibab said:
I definitely want to root my phone to gain maximum control over it.
The conrol over my phone is more important to me than the warranty.
As far as I know sadly until now Knox was never bypassed.
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There have been ongoing issues and failures with the variable rate displays going back to the N20U, it could to be an expensive gamble.
There's zero track record for this model but expect more of the same...
Relatively little display failures with the N10+ fixed rate display even after over 2 years.
The resale value will be diminished and forget a trade-in. Rooting will destroy some of its core functionality, forever. Too many "I bricked my phone" threads here already... at least take a few months to start to get to know your stock new phone. Better have deep pockets if you decide to root this Samsung...
dr.ketan said:
Indeed we have no idea about "future of magisk" so don't rely on future verion of magisk
If you want to root, just look into current scenario and decide you want to root or not. As of now (On OneUI 4.0 on other devices) Samsung Pay & Samung Pass (and Knox thingy) doesn't work. Though it doen't mean everything other works, still you needs to patch multiple things like Samsung Health, Secure folder, Private sharing and may be more. Also many apps may not work but you needs to hide them with magisk (Still no guarantee it will work)
So my pesonal advice is to before jumping to rooting, read as much possible rooting and magisk thread. Rooting is one way, once you trip knox, it's for forever and some stuff never work again even after relocking bootloader.
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dr.keaton you are my android guru!
Will you get your S22 next week?
What will you do with it? Will you root your device as soon as you have it?
On previous Note devices, I always waited for your first custom rom before I rooted my devices.
blackhawk said:
at least take a few months to start to get to know your stock new phone.
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I just love the sexy hardware of this phone.
I have nausea from the original software-stack of this device.
I would never use it with factory software in everyday life.
If it would be possible I would wipe everything from it and would install some GNU/Linux distro on it.
s3axel said:
They do, at least on my recently rooted phones and for the apps I use.... Safetynet passes, Gpay ist working fine....
But this is the usual cat&mouse game , actually for the S22U my intention is to try going unrooted - we'll see how long this holds
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It’s pretty annoying that you have to play such a cat & mouse game after you paid the hefty price of this device.
It is annoying how much Samsung, Google et al. are trying to restrict users freedom.
The kind of topic that makes me want to leave Android and go iPhone.
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The kind of topic that makes me want to leave Android and go iPhone.
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I can't see any reason why iphone/apple ecosystem would be better than Android.
I wish the Linux phone ecosystem was more mature.
Alibab said:
I just love the sexy hardware of this phone.
I have nausea from the original software-stack of this device.
I would never use it with factory software in everyday life.
If it would be possible I would wipe everything from it and would install some GNU/Linux distro on it.
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Doesn't make much sense to buy this phone than if the native UI pukes you out.
The hardware is lacking; no SD card slot. A poorer form factor/layout than the N10+ as well and 1 mm thicker. No APTX HD and no 3.5 mm jack. Meh.
The most outrageous insult comes from Google Android itself; scoped storage is fully active. Nullifying some of the speed and efficiency; the old Intel/MS paradox reincarnates itself once again. With scoped storage come a slew of 3rd party app issues not create by Samsung at all.
Alibab said:
It’s pretty annoying that you have to play such a cat & mouse game after you paid the hefty price of this device.
It is annoying how much Samsung, Google et al. are trying to restrict users freedom.
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Hmm, honestly speaking nobody is forcing anybody to unlock and root his device
From an IT security standpoint there is a reason for preventing modifications to a phone used by many for things like paying, storing sensitive data, having access to restricted data via specific apps, to corporate email accounts for BYOD etc etc
I am among the first to embrace tweaking options but in the end it all depends on what I use root access for: easy backup/restore of apps including user data, adblocking, UI +system tweaking, limiting of (for me) unnecessary system processes to optimize battery - all of this could easily be integrated by the manufacturers ....
In the end the good thing about Android is that you have a choice and maybe for rooting/tweaking Samsung isn't the best due to Knox and it's irreversibility....
Alibab said:
dr.keaton you are my android guru!
Will you get your S22 next week?
What will you do with it? Will you root your device as soon as you have it?
On previous Note devices, I always waited for your first custom rom before I rooted my devices.
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Hopefully I am getting in couple of days.
First I will setup device and look if any hardware issue. If everything fine, will root same day.
dr.ketan said:
Hopefully I am getting in couple of days.
First I will setup device and look if any hardware issue. If everything fine, will root same day.
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What tests do you use to check hardware issues?