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Where can I buy the International Unlocked version of this phone?

So, I'm in the US. I use Straight Talk which uses ATT bands. I do want to get an S7 that will work with my provider. I understand that it would have to either be the ATT model, or the International version.
Where exactly can you buy the international version? Also, will it include the free Gear VR? Also, are there any downsides to getting the international version? Is it still possible to get support in the US for the international model?

LeBornJamesFan said:
So, I'm in the US. I use Straight Talk which uses ATT bands. I do want to get an S7 that will work with my provider. I understand that it would have to either be the ATT model, or the International version.
Where exactly can you buy the international version? Also, will it include the free Gear VR? Also, are there any downsides to getting the international version? Is it still possible to get support in the US for the international model?
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You could probably buy it off from Amazon/Ebay or some other site. I'm not sure how often International versions get updated so that could be a downside. As of right now the only way to get the bonus Gear VR is preordering with a carrier, meaning no, you will miss out on the bonus if you want an international unlocked version.

LeBornJamesFan said:
So, I'm in the US. I use Straight Talk which uses ATT bands. I do want to get an S7 that will work with my provider. I understand that it would have to either be the ATT model, or the International version.
Where exactly can you buy the international version? Also, will it include the free Gear VR? Also, are there any downsides to getting the international version? Is it still possible to get support in the US for the international model?
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Last I checked, you can get the Unlocked version from BestBuy.

venki5star said:
Last I checked, you can get the Unlocked version from BestBuy.
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You can't get it Unlocked from BestBuy, at least not right now, maybe after the launch and it would still be the US version not European.
Edit: Europe Unlocked S7 and S7 Edge are now available for preorder with a free speaker and a case.
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7-sim-free-p-84948.html
£549.98 inc VAT £458.32 ex VAT (if I'm not mistaken VAT doesn't apply to us in the US but I could be mistaken.

You can using Amazon

daLareid said:
You can't get it Unlocked from BestBuy, at least not right now, maybe after the launch and it would still be the US version not European.
Edit: Europe Unlocked S7 and S7 Edge are now available for preorder with a free speaker and a case.
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7-sim-free-p-84948.html
£549.98 inc VAT £458.32 ex VAT (if I'm not mistaken VAT doesn't apply to us in the US but I could be mistaken.
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why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??

exploreresp said:
why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??
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Because one must choose the lesser of two evils... Exynos or... bloated with apps, and carrier boot logo, and having to find someone that can buy the phone and have their carrier unlock it. I called T-Mobile and they told me the phone must be with them (attached to someone's plan) for 7 days for them to unlock it.
I don't have any friends with T-Mobile and I live in South America, so I haven't got many options...

Hi. I just want to be clear... none of the Snapdragon variants have LTE band 28? No even t-mobile? I live in Panama and we have LTE on that band...
Chale

exploreresp said:
why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??
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I don't, I would prefer SD820 but I was listing it for some guy who was asking about it.

Samsung stores in canada sell "unlocked" phones, it gets locked to the first sim card but an unlock code is provided.

clove.co.uk is taking pre-orders for an International unlocked SD820 version. Wonder if it's a typo?

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clove.co.uk is taking pre-orders for an International unlocked SD820 version. Wonder if it's a typo?
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why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??
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Why not???

clove or handtec will ship to US and the prices are pretty decent. Cheaper than buying full price here in US. Make sure you read everything clove has to say about it though. There is a warning about Samsung locking their phones.

Simply use Amazon.de. They have a fully translated webpage (here is the link) and also the awesome customer service known from Amazon in English.

International version with US radio/baseband? Possible?

Hello, I've recently purchased an International G7 Power (XT1955-2) and I absolutely love it. For me it is the perfect phone, BUT:
I live in the USA, and the international model does NOT support a lot of the LTE bands found here. It works fine for me with an AT&T MVNO with proper APN settings manually entered, but not having common bands (12 and 17 specifically) is a little worrying should I ever travel out of my area. Being downgraded to 3G really isnt a dealbreaker for me, the biggest problem I forsee is that the International version also does NOT support 5Ghz Wifi. What? Again, not really a huge deal, and the other positives i find with the phone outweigh those two gripes.
Why not just get a US version you ask? Well, unfortunately the US version (XT1955-5 as far as i can tell) only has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of storage. (vs 4/64 for the international) and does not have NFC. The storage *is* expandable via SD card of course, but I feel like I would really miss that extra gig of ram. So heres what I was thinking:
Would it be possible to extract the radio firmware from a US model and flash it on the international model? I would be willing to purchase a US model specifically to grab the firmware (and then promptly return it, thanks Amazon!) Can anyone give me some insight on if this would be possible? They both run the same SoC, so shouldnt the radios also be identical, just software limited? If no one can give a solid answer, I might just take the plunge and learn how to do it and try it, and I'll most definitely post the results (or the file and process for others) here. Because as far as I'm concerned, the G7 Power is the perfect budget phone, its just such a shame that Motorola decided to cripple every single version of it with a different nonsensical limitation.
Thanks!

Update: I managed to track down a few different stock firmware images for the US model (even here there are variants, depending on which carrier they were sold through). First I flashed the modem firmware, confirmed that that had been applied successfully, and it booted ok, and LTE/Wifi worked normally, but I still didnt get the LTE bands or 5ghz wifi I was looking for. Next I just went whole hog and flashed the entire -5 US firmware and can confirm, the XT1955-5 firmware WILL fully flash onto the XT1955-2 without any problem, and will NOT nerf your RAM/Storage down to US model levels. LTE/Wifi work just as they did with stock -2 firmware, unfortunately this didnt help the lack of US LTE bands or 5GHz wifi... so
Looking at the "Baseband" in fastboot and within Android, the modem firmware had indeed successfully changed to the version that is in the US firmware, yet following the correct US version numbers it still had the "LATAM....." (meaning Latin America I'm guessing, this model was meant for Mexico), so theres still something else that needs to be changed, I'm gonna do some research on other phones that may have had the same problems and software locks to get an idea on how this might be changed. As always, any insight is welcome.
If anyone wants/needs the US variant firmwares to play with, let me know and I'll get them to you, since they were nearly impossible to find. For now I've flashed back to the stock -2 firmware (I have that too if you need, although this was really easy to find online).

I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me.

mtlvince said:
I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me
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Got it in the PM, thanks. According to that article, my Mexican -2 should also not have dual SIM slots which it certainly does. I wish there was a way to tell on the device itself which bands it can pick up since there's, as you said, so much conflicting information regarding this phone. I can tell you with absolute certainty that it doesn't support 5ghz wifi though, also it took a call to my carrier to get them to enable the wifi hotspot (other phones I've tested got this provisioned automatically) and wifi calling doesn't even appear as an option either.

mtlvince said:
I'm in the same situation as you, except i'm in Canada. According to this website below, there are 2 models of the xt1955-2. One being the 32 gig version for Latin America/Argentina and the other being the 64 gig model for Mexico. I don't know if the information is accurate but the 64 gig model of the xt1955-2 has LTE band 12 and 17. Lots of conflicting information. I don't what the correct specs are for this international version of the g7 power.
I can provide a link but being this is my first post, it won't allow me.
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I'll be following this thread. Keep us posted with what you come up with. Would love a dual sim with the band coverage of the US model. I have a 1955-2, works fine on Att with LTE. Tried a Verizon Sim, had LTE data but no calling.
You mentioned the firmware was hard to get. Are they different from the ones posted here?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/

gedster314 said:
You mentioned the firmware was hard to get. Are they different from the ones posted here?
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ocean/official/
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Dammit, yes those are what I was after, and all the searching in the world didn't give me that site. Well, that makes it easier, Thanks!

Update: I may have gotten all LTE bands working on the XT1955-2. Guide here to try it for yourself:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power/how-to/guide-moto-g7-power-supra-enable-lte-t3925246

Another update: running "./fastboot oem hw" gives us these values. We see that RAM and storage capacity are based on "hwprobe", meaning (im guessing) that it will actually look at what's physically installed in order to determine what it should use for a value, whereas radio and NFC are based on hwid, meaning (again, im guessing) that it compares the actual hardware ID to a list (somewhere) to determine what vaules it should use for radio and NFC, suggesting that the actual hardware we're after may be present, but just software disabled due to the hwid.
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And of course, attempting to change that doesn't work since that option is locked/protected and unprotecting it is "not allowed command"
At this stage, I'm assuming we'll need to wait for a custom kernel? I've tried unpacking boot.img, but theres nothing in ramdisk\oem or ramdisk\vendor to try and play around with.

Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant

B__B said:
Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant
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Should be able to. I have flashed the US retail firmware to the international version. I did have an issue with the US firmware on the international phone using the international modem. Worked fine except for people not hearing me on calls. So there could be an issue with mixing modems and firmwares. I flashed the US modem and it was fixed.
I also flashed the US Retail firmware onto a Metro phone in an attempt to unlock it, didn't unlockit. Phone worked fine though.

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Is it possible to flash metro software to the Amazon veriant
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If you have the Amazon version that is subsidized by Amazon with ads, then no. Moto will not give you the bootloader unlock code for that because that would mean Amazon couldn't show you a bunch of annoying advertisements.

I have already unlocked bootloader and flashed metro firmware

Guys, this may be worth checking out. This is a confirmed method that was used to enable LTE Band 12 on the Moto E LTE xt1527 (Surnia), by using Qualcomm's QPST/QXDM radio diag utilities after booting the device into "BP Tools" mode from the AP Fastboot menu. The method delves off into some data entry using binary code. Theoretically, this method should work on any Motorola device with a Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC. The OP notes that having stock firmware installed does seem to be a requirement for tweaking LTE band enablement, but that once the desired bands are enabled, a custom ROM can ibe installed and the bands will remain intact & supported.
So anyway, here is a link to the tutorial thread, which contains links for the DIAG port drivers you will need, as well as links for the QPST & QXDM utilities. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/guide-enable-lte-bands-surnia-t3351673
In the case of the International variant of the Moto G7 Power (xt1955-2), it is feasible that any lack of LTE band support has littler to do with the baseband radio firmware itself than it does omissions/restrictions implemented by the OEM. This has been the status quo for Motrola on LTE band support for many years.
Motorola's official specs list the xt1755-2 as having LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40 & 41. On the other hand, the US variants are docemented to have these LTE bands: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 14(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700), 30(2300), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100), 71(600). Considering that both the International & US Moto G7 Power variants are powered by the same SoC platform (albeit some marked performance differences), it is more likely than not that certain LTE Bands on the International variants were simply disabled via factory protocol.

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When u flashed metro rom did metro boot logo and software appear? Since Verizon doesn’t lock their Lte devices I wonder if flashing full firmware might achieve unlock? I know same concept as us retail but let’s not give up hope! Any new developments on how to proceed with unlock or cheap resources?

Has anyone gotten band 12 and 71 working on the XT1955-2?

C0l0njay said:
When u flashed metro rom did metro boot logo and software appear? Since Verizon doesn’t lock their Lte devices I wonder if flashing full firmware might achieve unlock? I know same concept as us retail but let’s not give up hope! Any new developments on how to proceed with unlock or cheap resources?
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Unlock can't be achieved by simply a firmware flash ,is not that simple. If it were that simple don't you think everyone will have an unlocked device by now and unlocking issue won't even exist. ?

i am having a hard time finding the 1955-2 latest firmware for may-june 2019 . Can you give me a link to that if possible can you give me the easiest steps on how you flashed the 1955-5 firmware on the 1955-2.the bootloader isunlocked on my moto g7 power 1955-2 model. .

Anyone try mixing US radios around to see if they get better service? I've already enabled all the bands in the above thread but where I live there are service dropouts depending where you are in town. I've rooted and unlocked my bootloader already. I have metro and wondering if I could get ahold of a T-Mobile radio if it would work better.

krayzieiyian23 said:
Anyone try mixing US radios around to see if they get better service? I've already enabled all the bands in the above thread but where I live there are service dropouts depending where you are in town. I've rooted and unlocked my bootloader already. I have metro and wondering if I could get ahold of a T-Mobile radio if it would work better.
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krayzueuyian23, I wanted to confirm.... you have successfully changed your 1955-2 international phone to permit bands 12 and 17? If so, which posts/steps did you follow? Are you using the phone in the US?
I have the international 1955-2 and want to activate 12 and 17 so that I can use the phone with AT&T / Cricket wireless.
Thank you!

jlsatt4 said:
krayzueuyian23, I wanted to confirm.... you have successfully changed your 1955-2 international phone to permit bands 12 and 17? If so, which posts/steps did you follow? Are you using the phone in the US?
I have the international 1955-2 and want to activate 12 and 17 so that I can use the phone with AT&T / Cricket wireless.
Thank you!
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I have the 1955-5. If you go to the forum main menu you will see a sticky post about enabling all bands possibly. I followed that threads instructions to do it. One hiccup though is that the qpst link doesn't work and you need to find a suitable version near that to download. I completed all bands on my phone, even though it doesn't help my signal. I am wondering if any of the different radios would help me.

Oppo Find X2 Pro UK/EU version pains

Received my phone from Vodafone awaiting EE.
The good
Lovely design
Nice large bright screen not as vibrant as Huawei or Samsung but 120hz refresh rate and QHD combo more then makes up for it. Speakers nice clear and loud.
The pain
Single SIM
No theme store
Only ceramic option
Why removes these important features for the UK/EU market? Charge a premium for product with reduced features
Oppo have bizzare policy or is it forced upon them?

riz157 said:
Received my phone from Vodafone awaiting EE.
The good
Lovely design
Nice large bright screen not as vibrant as Huawei or Samsung but 120hz refresh rate and QHD combo more then makes up for it. Speakers nice clear and loud.
The pain
Single SIM
No theme store
Only ceramic option
Why removes these important features for the UK/EU market? Charge a premium for product with reduced features
Oppo have bizzare policy or is it forced upon them?
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should of ordered through carphone warehouse. I have the orange version.

daindian said:
should of ordered through carphone warehouse. I have the orange version.
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Is it dual SIM?

riz157 said:
Is it dual SIM?
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we never get dual sim. the only time I've got a dual sim phone was when I bought a phone from Harrods

daindian said:
we never get dual sim. the only time I've got a dual sim phone was when I bought a phone from Harrods
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There are plenty of dual SIM phones direct from network providers. Huawei oppo Samsung, most flagship ships in 2020.

riz157 said:
There are plenty of dual SIM phones direct from network providers. Huawei oppo Samsung, most flagship ships in 2020.
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have you seen any high end flagships that are dual sim this year? Samsung huawei etc? as far as I know the Samsung s20 series and p40 series are both single sim in the UK. I think the only exception might be the one plus but that's a three exclusive network wise

daindian said:
have you seen any high end flagships that are dual sim this year? Samsung huawei etc? as far as I know the Samsung s20 series and p40 series are both single sim in the UK. I think the only exception might be the one plus but that's a three exclusive network wise
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I've reviewed every single flagship of 2020 and all of them come with dual SIM and S20 series also has esim option, essentially you could have 2 Sims and one esim. 3 numbers on one phone.

riz157 said:
I've reviewed every single flagship of 2020 and all of them come with dual SIM and S20 series also has esim option, essentially you could have 2 Sims and one esim. 3 numbers on one phone.
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ahh didn't know that. but I can't be dealing with another exynos phone and the lack of no Google on the p40 series affects some of my banking apps here.

Doesn't seem to have proper Google Play certification yet in the UK so unable to download Netflix for instance. This the same for everyone?

SimplyFred said:
Doesn't seem to have proper Google Play certification yet in the UK so unable to download Netflix for instance. This the same for everyone?
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No issue with Netflix works fine.

So i was not dreaming.. i look everywhere the theme store in my Find X2 pro ! Why don't we have it ? i don't get it
And by the way, i did the test and this phone can play 8K vidéo without any problems ! maybe we will have the ability to shoot in 8K format with just an update as this phone is technically capable of doing it

daindian said:
ahh didn't know that. but I can't be dealing with another exynos phone and the lack of no Google on the p40 series affects some of my banking apps here.
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That is a genuine issue with Samsung and Huawei.

I'm very curious to know how you can get 3 numbers (sim sim esim) on the phones with max 2 IMEI numbers. Can you please enlighten me?
riz157 said:
I've reviewed every single flagship of 2020 and all of them come with dual SIM and S20 series also has esim option, essentially you could have 2 Sims and one esim. 3 numbers on one phone.
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SAO said:
I'm very curious to know how you can get 3 numbers (sim sim esim) on the phones with max 2 IMEI numbers. Can you please enlighten me?
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Adding esim data plan.
Give it a try been reported by others also.

gregou said:
So i was not dreaming.. i look everywhere the theme store in my Find X2 pro ! Why don't we have it ? i don't get it
And by the way, i did the test and this phone can play 8K vidéo without any problems ! maybe we will have the ability to shoot in 8K format with just an update as this phone is technically capable of doing it
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They dont have one for the pro right now.
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Thailand version is Dual-SIM, offered in Black or Orange & can be flashed to EU Rom without loss of dual sim capability... just FYI. I did so without any issue.

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Thailand version is Dual-SIM, offered in Black or Orange & can be flashed to EU Rom without loss of dual sim capability... just FYI. I did so without any issue.
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could you post where you bought it? and the procedure for flashing the EU SW on THAI phone?
Thank you

riz157 said:
Received my phone from Vodafone awaiting EE.
The good
Lovely design
Nice large bright screen not as vibrant as Huawei or Samsung but 120hz refresh rate and QHD combo more then makes up for it. Speakers nice clear and loud.
The pain
Single SIM
No theme store
Only ceramic option
Why removes these important features for the UK/EU market? Charge a premium for product with reduced features
Oppo have bizzare policy or is it forced upon them?
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May I ask?
Is the phone loud when ringing?
Reason I ask, just a bit hard of hearing.
I know that the ringtone sounds louder but not when it's actually taking a call.
Thank you.

dgardel said:
could you post where you bought it? and the procedure for flashing the EU SW on THAI phone?
Thank you
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As far as buying, see the following thread for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-x2-pro/help/oppo-thailand-global-2025-dual-sim-512gb-t4108975
We used PARCL... It's a buying forwarding service. There's a forwarder named Jon... At least 1 other person beside myself used him and got phone extremely fast (about a week or so)... It does add some cost but well worth it to get 512GB 12GB Dual SIM CPH2025 Version. PARCL is fairly straight forward on how to use...
As far as the flashing goes....
Just download the OTA (I did from UK Oppo Site) and then restart phone in bootloader / fastboot mode... (hold power button / down) , it will ask for language first then ask if you want to use built in storage to apply OTA manually, then find it you download in download folder select it and say yes and it will update. I'm sure some has more thorough instructions out there or on XDA... very easy to do
Biggest thing to remember is that Flashing OTA manually is only allowed if the OTA Build is same age or later version of what is on your phone.... for instance, you can flash .21 PU Thai to .18 EU because both are the May release of google security updates... In my case, I'm on the June security update EU Rom .24, if I wanted to go back to PU, I would have to wait for the equivalent ROM which is .23 PU and be able to download it somewhere completely, I don't believe I can go back to .18 PU at this point since it is older... Any older version will start to flash onto phone but will error out before anything is altered on the phone by Oppo for not being the same revision or newer..
hope that makes it clear as mud..... :laugh:

mahst68 said:
As far as buying, see the following thread for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-x2-pro/help/oppo-thailand-global-2025-dual-sim-512gb-t4108975
We used PARCL... It's a buying forwarding service. There's a forwarder named Jon... At least 1 other person beside myself used him and got phone extremely fast (about a week or so)... It does add some cost but well worth it to get 512GB 12GB Dual SIM CPH2025 Version. PARCL is fairly straight forward on how to use...
As far as the flashing goes....
Just download the OTA (I did from UK Oppo Site) and then restart phone in bootloader / fastboot mode... (hold power button / down) , it will ask for language first then ask if you want to use built in storage to apply OTA manually, then find it you download in download folder select it and say yes and it will update. I'm sure some has more thorough instructions out there or on XDA... very easy to do
Biggest thing to remember is that Flashing OTA manually is only allowed if the OTA Build is same age or later version of what is on your phone.... for instance, you can flash .21 PU Thai to .18 EU because both are the May release of google security updates... In my case, I'm on the June security update EU Rom .24, if I wanted to go back to PU, I would have to wait for the equivalent ROM which is .23 PU and be able to download it somewhere completely, I don't believe I can go back to .18 PU at this point since it is older... Any older version will start to flash onto phone but will error out before anything is altered on the phone by Oppo for not being the same revision or newer..
hope that makes it clear as mud..... :laugh:
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have you the your shop direct link for the 512GB 12GB Dual SIM CPH2025 Version??? too many models present on the JD site... (PM me the link if posting here is forbidden by the forum rules)

Differences between G970U and G970F

I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.

kcwind said:
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!

xlivexevilx said:
I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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Thanks for the reply. I had seen that site and the differences in bands and that's what made me ask if anyone has seen any difference in the two versions of the phone. Yes, I have either the dual sim version or the hybrid SIM, I'm not really sure since I can't find my exact model on that site. I can see that the phone was made in China and its CSC country is Panama. I can put either 2 SIM cards in the phone or one SIM card and an SD storage card (which is how I have it set up). The full model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA and that model isn't listed on the website that shows what frequencies each model can access. I was on the phone with a T-Mobile tech person when I was setting it up and she had me make a few changes to be sure I was using T-Mobile's LTE network, but I don't think she really knew much about what frequency bands I might need and not have. That's why I asked here.
I'm planning on going to my parents' next week, where T-Mobile's service isn't that great, so I'm hoping that will be a really good test for this phone. Otherwise, it seems to be working just fine for me, although it's hard for me to know if I'm getting full access in the city, where all the bands my phone has are probably supported. Maybe I should look for an app that can tell me what frequencies are available and whether my phone is able to connect, hmmmm. Anybody know of a good app like that?
Thanks so much for the reply.

I downloaded an app called Samsung Band Selection so that I could see what bands my phone actually has. When I compare the bands/frequencies that the app shows I have to what bands T-Mobile has, it looks like I'm missing two bands. One is the 4G FDD LTE band of B71(600MHz). The other band I'm missing is the 4G TDD LTE band of B46(5200). Does anyone know what issues there might be if this phone doesn't have the capability to connect to those two bands?

If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
The T-Mobile S10e models have a model number that end with TMB. I use a pre-owned, T-Mobile carrier-unlocked, Samsung Galaxy S10e.
Just my $0.02
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Nate2 said:
If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here. Maybe I don't know where to look, but so far, I'm having zero problems with this phone. Even in an area where T-Mobile doesn't have a great presence, my reception and data access was fine. I've been on the phone with T-Mobile representatives, who had me do a little tweaking when I first got the phone and I've talked to them about the 2 bandwidths that I'm missing on this phone and I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I'll check again to see if I can search out the problems you're talking about, but this phone seems to be working just fine. If I'm missing something, please point me to the right posts, though.
Thanks for the reply.

kcwind said:
I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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Yeah, I went there after re-reading your last message. When I search for G970F, I find 4 threads which I don't think are going to be problems for me. Unfortunately, when I try to search for "international S10e", the search brings up hundreds of threads that have "internal" in it, rather than "international", so I'm unable to search for just my model. Apparently, their search algorithm isn't the greatest. It sounded like the biggest problem might be the fingerprint sensor not working so well after a recent upgrade. I don't plan on using the fingerprint sensor and it was just one person with the problem, so I don't know how widespread that might be.
Thanks again for the reply.

The G970U has an FM Radio that is enabled. I have verified that it works:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I hear the G970F either doesn't have it, or it is disabled.
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I saw that difference online, as well. I'm not really sure where to look in order to verify, but from what little I've looked, I don't think it has the FM radio receiver. Not that I have a need for it, but someone else might, so always good to point that out, thanks. I would use the dual-sim capability more than an FM radio, so I'm willing to live without built-in radio. If you tell me where to look, I will verify for sure for others who might be interested.

My SM-G970UZBATMB (T-Mobile s10e) is on Build QP1A.190711.020.G970USQS4DTF6 now (7/2020).
Did your G970F get that update too?
See:
1. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G970U/TMB/doc.html
2. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...axy-s10e/software-updates-samsung-galaxy-s10e
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Mine updated a week or so ago to Build QP1A.190711.020.G970FXXS7CTG1. My Baseband version is now G970FXXS7CTF3.

Different versions of Xperia 5ii

I found there are 3 different versions of Xperia 5ii.
XQ-AS52, XQ-AS62, XQ-AS72
Anyone know the differences on these three models?

It seems based on product codes and xpericheck:
XQ-AS52 - EUROPE - 128Gb, 5G
XQ-AS62 - US - 128Gb, no 5G
XQ-AS72 - China/HK/Tw, 256Gb, 5G

My device is from europe and I'm on 1 aug security update.

So, no difference in the hardware and radios from what I read. I got the XQ-AS72 and I'm on Verizon. Initially, the IMEI said that it wouldn't work on Verizon. But if you get with the right tech rep on chat, tell them that you need to set up a CDMA-less phone. I did it today and got the phone working on Verizon! Only using LTE, but Verizon is killing off 3g (read: CDMA) at the end of the year, so can't imagine that will be an issue. Off to the races with a cheaper phone with double the internal storage than what I could order in the US....
Update: Phone works on Verizon. Did an online chat with tech support, and told them that I needed to be able to activate a phone as CDMA-less. I got hooked with a dude who had been with them for 7 years or so and he's all "I know exactly what you want to do and how to do it." Half hour later, I'm on the network and swinging large!

Andolss said:
My device is from europe and I'm on 1 aug security update.
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Install the official tool from Sony, Xperia Companion, and run a repair. I had the same issue. Now I am on 58.0.A.22.21 with October patches. You can easily use this tool, it is the official tool from Sony, so you are not illegaly flashing or unlocking it.

Does the XQ-AS72 variant work in Canada and the USA? Why cant I find detailed specs on the sony site for bands and such. Its such a pain.

Cptnfruitloops said:
Does the XQ-AS72 variant work in Canada and the USA? Why cant I find detailed specs on the sony site for bands and such. Its such a pain.
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I bought the XQ-AS72 from a Taiwan seller and using in US now with T-Mobile.
Working fine.

misbehave said:
I bought the XQ-AS72 from a Taiwan seller and using in US now with T-Mobile.
Working fine.
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Are you getting VoLTE on T-mobile out of the box, or did you need to flash the US firmware? Thinking of ordering the same version (for double the storage and the blue color) but from what I've seen so far seems like I need to flash the US firmware in order to get VoLTE to work on T-mobile.

Hi all! Guys, I am trying to bring all known info into one list, so IF YOU KNOW YOUR DEVICE\FIRMWARE REGION, could you please share model, memory capacity, 1sim or 2 sim, region and color followed by screenshot of Software Info page?
Just enter Service menu by dialing *#*#7378423#*#* , then go to Software Info
It will help me a lot.
Here is an example of what and how I would see it.
XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Blue
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Silver

centaurian said:
XQ-AS52 8\128Gb Dual Sim EU (Customized EEA) Silver
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What is Customized EEA?

XQ-AS72 8\256Gb Dual Sim (HK I think) Blue
(You can also see my 1 bar reception even though there's a cell tower 50 meters outside my window)

Customized EEA - Standart non-branded version sold in Europe (UK and Russia has its own variants, same is valid for some operators):

centaurian said:
Customized EEA - Standart non-branded version sold in Europe (UK and Russia has its own variants, same is valid for some operators):
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How do I check which one I have? Using the CID I guess but how do I find it

Cptnfruitloops said:
How do I check which one I have? Using the CID I guess but how do I find it
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Huh! That's the main point and problem. For now I\We don't know any working way to check xperia 5 II CID. If we could it would solve a problem with device region identification. But for now we can only rely on what Software info says and to try to understand what SOFTWARE VERIONS like GLOBALEEA-A2, GLOBAL-C2, etc. and PRODUCT CODES means. At leats that's what I am trying to do.

@Cptnfruitloops - You have HK or TW. I can't tell which one directly - or at least from shared info.
@LOCKDOC_UA - Did you try to explore firmwares? I guess it can help you with your effort.
Very interesting for identification is also "LTA version" (Yeh I dumped it from FWs). At least for XQ-AS72, where it can be used for distinguish CN from SEA and from TW/HK (they share same elabel). It won't help to distinguish XQ-AS52 versions though, since they share same elabel.
Anyway, those labels are quite interesting in few ways.
For example TW/HK version contains information about charging voltages/currents:
And for example Japanese versions (SO-52A) contains FM radio (If you check its FCC ID: PY7-08372L https://fccid.io/PY7-08372L - compare with European version FCC ID: PY7-310Z https://fccid.io/PY7-30637Z which doesn't have it.

centaurian said:
Did you try to explore firmwares? I guess it can help you with your effort.
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You're right. Just now I discovered such info inside firmwares downloaded from xperifirm. Thanks

zwirek75 said:
XQ-AS62 - US - 128Gb, no 5G
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Who can explain why US version has no 5G support? This model has different hardware? I thought 5G modem is a part of Snapdragon 865.

Does anyone know what ROW_Commercial means?

@LOCKDOC_UA
Its simple - they decided to turn it off since it (modem HW) doesn't support 5G bands used in US (It support only bands 1, 3, 8, 28, 77, 78 - none of those will work in US).
Because of that you can't market it as 5G phone in US - Support would be overwhelmed with questions from customers - I bought this 5G phone and it doesn't work with my operator? Which operator should I use to get 5G? We are sorry - none will work. So to avoid it they simply decided to turn it off.
Also forget 5G roaming - It doesn't work anywhere yet - so even keeping surprise overseas 5G doesn't make any sense.
@Cptnfruitloops - I guess its current used modem configuration, but may be I am wrong.