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Moto Bootloader policy News

Motorola has not yet officially responded to the query of this petition, but we are seeing some progress and they have noticed us.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/355098#355098
The Quick State of Play:
Motorola recently stated that there would be an announcement to their bootloader policy that would help to benefit Developers while protecting its users.
(Refer: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278)
This Groubal is in place to request that Motorola provide an unlocked/unencrypted bootloader option for its end users. This option should be applicable to all currently supported Motorola phones and upcoming phones.
At the very least this should also be a call to have Motorola make its official announcement sooner rather than later.
I encourage the following types of user from the Android community to support this Groubal:
• Developers with a Motorola Phone
• Developers who have left Motorola due to this reason
• Developers who will not touch a Motorola phone due to this reason
• Advanced Users with a Motorola Phone
• Advanced Users who have left Motorola due to this reason
• Advanced Users who will not touch a Motorola phone due to this reason
• Any End User that believes in the openness of the Android Platform
Please also spread the word about this Groubal on Facebook and Twitter and use the following hash tag to help it trend. #unlockmoto
Also consider following me on twitter if you want to keep involved:

check out moto's fb page!! over 16,000 people voted on their fb poll to unlock the bootloader!! hopefully they unlock the bootloader
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alx294 said:
check out moto's fb page!! over 16,000 people voted on their fb poll to unlock the bootloader!! hopefully they unlock the bootloader
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they better be soon..

mediaon said:
they better be soon..
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It will never happen. Sorry. Believing otherwise is giving Motorola too much credit. When you carefully read the facebook announcement it says nothing. They were just defusing a PR bomb.
Motorola releases more devices than they can support and we were triaged. As recently exposed by Cincinnati Bell, Motorola has already been lying to our faces by telling us that it's the carriers that refuse them to allow 2.2 updates for the XT720. Motorola screwed Cincinnati Bell, and now Cincinnati Bell is selling Samsung. Motorola are snake oil salesmen from Texas. End of story.

Mioze7Ae said:
It will never happen. Sorry. Believing otherwise is giving Motorola too much credit. When you carefully read the facebook announcement it says nothing. They were just defusing a PR bomb.
Motorola releases more devices than they can support and we were triaged. As recently exposed by Cincinnati Bell, Motorola has already been lying to our faces by telling us that it's the carriers that refuse them to allow 2.2 updates for the XT720. Motorola screwed Cincinnati Bell, and now Cincinnati Bell is selling Samsung. Motorola are snake oil salesmen from Texas. End of story.
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so .. disappointed at MOTOROLA ..didn't even give us any updates to fix the bugs in stock 2.1 (low mem when 720p taping,the lag,freeze ,hang problem,slow processing...etc....)..can't believe they treat their customers like this ..such a liar

Motorola promises to unlock our bootloader in the end of 2011. (maybe NOT EVERY ?? )
For everyone speaking german: http://www.android-hilfe.de/news-ankuendigungen/98282-motorola-verspricht-entsperrte-bootloader.html
And for everyone speaking english: http://ausdroid.net/
But I fear that this might be just for new devices

Knoedelkopf said:
Motorola promises to unlock EVERY bootloader in the end of 2011.
For everyone speaking german: http://www.android-hilfe.de/news-ankuendigungen/98282-motorola-verspricht-entsperrte-bootloader.html
And for everyone speaking english: http://ausdroid.net/
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Smartest move moto could make. Hope they update all devices. Older and newer
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It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
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Guess we'll see whatever is supposed to happen (new or old phones + carrier willingness + Moto not lying) in quite a while...

Motorola just heaped a load of cow dung on us today!

Today the Moto upgrade page changed the status of the AT&T Atrix 2 and Atrix 4G to "Further plans coming soon," so they have reneged on their promise of 3rd quarter of this year. Thanks Moto for heaping a stinking load of cow dung on us. Why did they have people sign up for a soak test that never happened? Here is the upgrade page updated on 22-September-2012.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Unless they plan on going straight to Jelly Bean this is very upsetting.

I'm really hoping that this means we are going straight to JB, but knowing Moto, who knows. I guess we are lucky they haven't relegated us to staying on GB like they did with some of the other devices on that list.
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They could've just released the second or first leak as the OTA and unlocked the BL and ppl would've been happy.
Hopefully we get JB... not counting on it though. Good thing i decided to install the leak and SCv7. Thanks to jim and rdavisct and all the devs here.
Motorola sucks! I'm very upset about this.
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Other regions are getting ICS rolled out...
Its not moto its at&t, and its at&t about the bootloaders too, the Photon Q is a sprint phone, thats why you can unlock the bootloader.

I'm going to blame the carriers on this one. No other reason moto can roll out ICS to Atrix 2 that are in other regions other then the USA.
FYI: ICS is official in the SEA region as of 11 Sept. The website says Q4 2012, but let me assure you, that is not the case.
Motorola SEA
11 September
Good morning! We are pleased to let our Motorola XOOM2 and ATRIX2 users know that they will be receiving an over-the-air update to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Users can also do a manual upgrade by going to Settings\About Tablet\Systems Updates. Please note that the upgrade does not allow for a previous version of Android to be re-installed, and we do recommend that users back up their data prior to this upgrade.
For more inquiries please contact our Product Inquiry Hotlines listed in our previous post. Thank you.

Yes, after some reflection the blame should be on AT&T. Atrix 2s all over the world including China, Cambodia, India and more got the ICS update already. So the likely reason is that AT&T blocked the update so people would upgrade to a new phone and extend their contracts. Since I am using an AT&T Atrix 2 (unlocked) in Thailand that is not an option for me. For regular AT&T customers with an Atrix 2, it looks like AT&T scubmagged you.

I am not a litigious person but if AT&T is blocking these updates, there are some grounds for us the consumer for a legal remedy. There are bugs and problems with the current OS and the update is supposed to fix these for us. The fact that AT&T is blocking us from getting them from the manufacturer is a violation and breach of our warranty and grounds for a lawsuit.

I am now a bit more thankful that I moved onto the AHD, however I mourn for all of my Atrix 2 friends here.
The good news is that the A2 community already has two different ICS leaks which have been worked on since early July, so it's not as if the phones can't run ICS at all. Needless to say, AT&T seems to be the culprit for this major hold-up.
Also, @ ajsedlacek, you likely wouldn't be able to sue AT&T for anything. They probably have a clause releasing them from any potential lawsuits once you sign a contract agreement with them.

Agree 100% with this. In the US the carriers hold all the power. None of them are exempt. Heck... look at the BS Verizon pulled with their "Nexus"
All international phones will get updates first for a variety of reasons, with a big reason being the carriers
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I think most of us saw this coming. When I woke up this morning and saw the news, it definitely wasn't surprising to me.
My opinion on all of this, screw it. We've got awesome Devs here that are absolutely awesome at what they do, and personally, the LEAKS that we have of ICS are just fine for me.
Also, CM10 from Jim (and others) is right around the corner, and that excites me much more than getting official ICS. Granted it would be nice to have the official version, but there are better things in store for our Atrix 2.

Axis_Drummer said:
I think most of us saw this coming. When I woke up this morning and saw the news, it definitely wasn't surprising to me.
My opinion on all of this, screw it. We've got awesome Devs here that are absolutely awesome at what they do, and personally, the LEAKS that we have of ICS are just fine for me.
Also, CM10 from Jim (and others) is right around the corner, and that excites me much more than getting official ICS. Granted it would be nice to have the official version, but there are better things in store for our Atrix 2.
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I agree 100%.
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What folks here really need to do, is swallow their 'entitlements' and stop acting like they're "owed" something. It's getting ridiculous, and rather embarrassing to read. You all bought an Atrix 2, that doesn't mean you also purchased the moon and the stars and everything else you've ever wished upon. We get what we get, so don't throw a fit. Whatever comes our way, will be made more amazing by our talented development team. Stop crying about timetables, what you anticipated, and what you feel you deserve. It's a phone for Christ's sake, and to be such malcontents about when we "get this or that" is leaving a rather bitter, self-warranted, rotten taste in the mouth of this forum. Does Motorola suck? Yeah, undeniably so. Does AT&T hold back inexplicably? Certainly. But, you bought the tickets, now take the ride. Stop complaining, or buy another phone. If you're staying with the A2, you can take solace in the fact we have an inarguable competence and talent here, otherwise, take your b¡tching elsewhere. It's growing ever so redundant, and removes from the integrity of everything we've done here, if the threads are flooded with crap like this...
Two bits offered, take 'em or leave 'em...
EDIT: Sorry for the rant, but c'mon, enough is enough.
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whatever, man
i told my mommy im not getting ics, and she's calling at&t tomorrow :laugh:

souljaboy said:
whatever, man
i told my mommy im not getting ics, and she's calling at&t tomorrow :laugh:
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Case in point. I've seen enough from you already.
Edit: If you're joking around with me, ha-Ha. I hope that's what you're looking for. If not, you have more practice to be done with your reading comprehension.
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Yeah.., I'm not understanding why everyone is crazy about "OFFICIAL" ICS. We already have a leak or rather 2 that have barely if any bugs and a couple of GREAT rom's based on ICS. Furthermore we have a fully working build of CM10 based of off Jellybean (not counting the camera... yet). Personally I couldn't care less about when an "official" version is released because it won't change anything, and I advise you all to do the same.

Just my 2 cents. Not in response to anybody but just my opinion.
The whole argument about updates being not "promised" and being "gratis" is bogus. So is the argument about manufacturers hands being tied by Google.
Short of a legally enforceable contract, Google as well as the manufacturers do everything in their power to lead people into believing that their phones will be updated to the next version of the OS. Google had announced the Alliance with the declared aim of providing OS updates for 18 months from device release date. Last time I checked, Moto was a part of the alliance. Moto has had the Atrix 2 on its update page since February 2012, if I'm not wrong. At the very least, this is a Gentleman's agreement on the part of Google/manufacturer that our phone will be updated. Now if any manufacturer wants to say that it had made no legally binding committment to update, where is the honour in that? Why should I trust such a corporation with my hard earned money in the future? As far as I'm concerned, there WAS a pomise, either express or implied, to update my phone and the manufacturer has dishonourably reneged.
This appeared on the Moto forum:
"Thank you for being a Motorola Mobility customer. We know you value having the latest and greatest technology on your device. We are working very closely with Google and our carrier partners to bring you the best possible experience on each of our devices powered by Android. This means ensuring that all upgrades and updates enhance device functionality and provide an overall improved experience.
As previously communicated, DROID RAZR, DROID RAZR MAXX, DROID 4, DROID BIONIC, DROID XYBOARD 8.2 and 10.1, and MOTOROLA XOOM WiFI + 3G/4G will be upgraded to ICS. Additional details on timing for these products will be shared at a later date.
To help our customers understand the steps we go through to develop an upgrade, we are describing the high-level process for delivering upgrades below. During this process, we work to ensure that an upgrade is possible, and that it provides a satisfying experience. For each smartphone or tablet currently in the market, you will see updated information on what stage the upgrade plan is in.
* Please note this timing is Motorola Mobility's best estimate and contingent on successful completion of testing.
==> https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c"
Clearly that sounds like a promise of OS upgrades to come. So untill my next phone states on the box "This unit will not receive any further OS updates from us" I'll expect the updates to come in a somewhat timely manner.
Updates being free is anouther argument I have never understood, even when accompanied by the inappropriate analogy of PC and Windows OS. Unlike in PCs, mobile device owners are completely dependent on the manufacturer to provide OS updates. The cost of developing updates has obviously already been paid in advance by the device owners - would the manufacturers sell even half the number of devices if they told their customers upfront that they would not provide any updates? These are functionality and security updates to an OS that is still in its infancy on products that cost hundreds of dollars one way or the other.
About manufacturers being hamstrung by Google/carriers, Google has already released the OS source code for manufacturers to do as they please. The carrier argument may be true though - I guess if you buy a subsidized phone, you got to be prepared to pamper to the whims of the carrier.
About the phones getting updates through leaks, I would guess even the people who do not visit xda, who don't know nothing about installing leaks ... deserve to have ICS on their phones?

Apex_Strider said:
What folks here really need to do, is swallow their 'entitlements' and stop acting like they're "owed" something.
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Ummm...Yes, I (we) are owed something. Its called updates and bug fixes.
So far one upgrade with no real fixes...
If you're OK with that, so be it. But don't try to sit here and tell people what they should or should not be doing.
Yes the deb's here have done a great job. Saying that, its not their jobs! It is that of Motorola's and at&TS.
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dk-v1 said:
Ummm...Yes, I (we) are owed something. Its called updates and bug fixes.
So far one upgrade with no real fixes...
If you're OK with that, so be it. But don't try to sit here and tell people what they should or should not be doing.
Yes the deb's here have done a great job. Saying that, its not their jobs! It is that of Motorola's and at&TS.
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You've so much to learn, young grasshopper...
The "upgrade" wasn't an 'upgrade', it was a leak, I'm sure you recall this, yeah? If it was an official OTA, and needed "bug fixes", likely we would have already gotten them. What we did, was hack the Moto servers, to 'fish' for updates. We found one (two, to be specific) and nothing subsequent to that is owed to us by Moto or AT&T, because what we found wasn't even intended for use by us -the end consumer. We'll get the release when we get it. My point was for everyone to stop this incessant b¡tching and whining. It's borderline manic...
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I don't think anyone feels entitled to anything, but it is reasonable to expect some updates and maintenance. Granted we got 2.3.6, but is that really an update when most everyone else at the time was running 2.3.7?
I don't think anyone here questions the contributions made by the devs, nor isn't grateful. I think we're all just frustrated that we're behind the times and know that we have a lot of potential going to waste.
I came from M3 and had a Motorola Cliq XT, so I been through all of this before with Moto and their updates. Fortunately we had Turl (which some of you devs might know), and when I left there about a year ago we had CM7 2.3.7 running great on a phone that had barely a 1/3 of the hardware we have on our A2.
I'm confident we'll move forward, we have some great devs here. We're all entitled to our opinions and expectations, and we all want more because we know we're more than capable of taking advantage of it. I think we just need to organize and focus on what we have going on here at XDA. Personally, I'm excited for CM10 and can't wait to get something more proper running on this piece lol.
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Not sure how I feel about this. Mixed feelings here. Their explanations are not very clear.

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I have searched and searched but it seems as if there is no chatter of any updates to the Ultra. Has anyone found sites with info or any news of possible 4.3 upgrade?

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I have searched and searched but it seems as if there is no chatter of any updates to the Ultra. Has anyone found sites with info or any news of possible 4.3 upgrade?
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This same question was asking in the official Motorola forums and the Motorola forum manager responded with;
The link is here, and you can always find it on the home page of this forum, in a red box toward the bottom of the page.
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opt05 said:
This same question was asking in the official Motorola forums and the Motorola forum manager responded with;
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One of these days I might buy a phone that isn't obsolete or passed over for Dev as soon as it comes out. If anyone one wants advice on which phone not to buy just ask me to pick one out and don't choose it.
Let's see Since on VZW
HTC Droid Eris
Moto DX2
Moto Ultra (NOW)
Errrrrr!!

morphius2036 said:
One of these days I might buy a phone that isn't obsolete or passed over for Dev as soon as it comes out. If anyone one wants advice on which phone not to buy just ask me to pick one out and don't choose it.
Let's see Since on VZW
HTC Droid Eris
Moto DX2
Moto Ultra (NOW)
Errrrrr!!
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The Eris had a pretty rich dev community. Lots of devs, with some great GB ROMs, which is remarkable for the crap hardware for that thing. It even has S-OFF for the bootloader.

I mean Official Dev from VZW.
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The official devs come from their respective companies (Motorola, HTC, etc). But we really need to also blame Verizon for their slow (or what they call rigorous) approval process for updates.

Do you think the Droid Ultra and Maxx will get treated as second-class citizens on Verizon? The Verizon Moto X seems to be getting its update.

Can't be long now! Too bad the Maxx/Ultra/Mini community is not heavily steeped in an enthusiasts base. There may already be a soak test out. Anyone a member of the Motorola forum?
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bwheelies said:
Can't be long now! Too bad the Maxx/Ultra/Mini community is not heavily steeped in an enthusiasts base. There may already be a soak test out. Anyone a member of the Motorola forum?
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According to Motorola terms and conditions; a soak test member cannot talk about the soak test (aka fight club). They would get banned on the Moto forums. Best sources would be all the Android blogs, which I believe haven't said anything as of yet.

opt05 said:
According to Motorola terms and conditions; a soak test member cannot talk about the soak test (aka fight club). They would get banned on the Moto forums. Best sources would be all the Android blogs, which I believe haven't said anything as of yet.
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Something must have changed. Every soak test performed on other Motorola phones always become available through the forums before the official OTA drops.
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Actually, a user has to be a forum member AND opted in to the Motorola Feedback Network for each device. This is a subset of Forums members who have volunteered to provide feedback when asked. Members respond to surveys, provide feedback on new software in advance of full release and are a key group they turn to when they need "real user" information.

Already a known quantity. For the other Motorola phone I had, I never took an ota as someone ALWAYS brought it to the enthusiasts forums before an official ota dropped. Is this your first Motorola phone? Have you never side loaded a soak update?
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This is my 3rd Moto device and I have not personally sideloaded a soak update before. Though, I did heavily follow and discuss the Bionic leaked soaks from Gingerbread to ICS that took over a year, that was quite interesting. Has project Cheesecake stopped since people have moved past Gingerbread?

Using a new Verizon Droid? Your update is coming soon
ANDROID CENTRAL - ANDROID FORUMS, NEWS, REVIEWS, HELP AND ANDROID WALLPAPERS | OCTOBER 23, 2013
http://pulse.me/s/sBTDm
Have hope Droid users, you have not been forgotten -- you're just on Verizon Standard Time While a solid date would be better, there's finally some...
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rlmesq said:
Have hope Droid users, you have not been forgotten -- you're just on Verizon Standard Time While a solid date would be better, there's finally some...
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Well OK, but why is the Droid update lagging behind the Moto X update in the first place? They're pretty much the same phone.

reggie14 said:
Well OK, but why is the Droid update lagging behind the Moto X update in the first place? They're pretty much the same phone.
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Is this a rhetorical question, or do you think I somehow have more information than the article I copied & pasted?
My guess would be that the X is on a bunch of different carriers all over the world, but upgrades to Verizon-exclusive phones are delayed by Big Red's process of inserting crapware and approving the upgrade.

reggie14 said:
Well OK, but why is the Droid update lagging behind the Moto X update in the first place? They're pretty much the same phone.
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The Motorola X is Motorola's flagship phone. The Droid Series are phones built under contract for Verizon. They're going to take care of their flagship first.

rlmesq said:
My guess would be that the X is on a bunch of different carriers all over the world, but upgrades to Verizon-exclusive phones are delayed by Big Red's process of inserting crapware and approving the upgrade.
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There's very little in the way of additional crapware on the Droid lineup compared to Verizon's Moto X, and the approval process is almost certainly the same for updates.
doogald said:
The Motorola X is Motorola's flagship phone. The Droid Series are phones built under contract for Verizon. They're going to take care of their flagship first.
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I would have a lot easier time buying that argument if the Droid lineup had different hardware or required different software than the Moto X. But instead, they're basically the same phones in different cases. It sure seems like the most efficient route would be to develop and test the Droid updates at the same time as the Moto X updates.

The assumption is that they are the same hardware, but I don't think that has been substantiated with any real evidence short of the X8 label. Can anyone prove me wrong?
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jesta192 said:
The assumption is that they are the same hardware, but I don't think that has been substantiated with any real evidence short of the X8 label. Can anyone prove me wrong?
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I sent samurihl the XML files for the X and the full droid lineup for his house if moto he said he couldn't believe how close they really are. Almost identical I am not sure this proves the hardware is the same but I would guess its a pretty good indication. I think the X got the update first because it is on other carriers. I'm sure were not far behind.

[PETITION] Calling all Moto owners

Please sign our petition requesting Moto to provide the Android N update to the Moto G 2015 and Moto G Turbo.
https://www.change.org/p/motorola-please-include-moto-g-3rd-gen-for-android-nougat-update
You may be wondering why I am asking other Moto owners to support the G3 and Turbo by signing our petition... We are asking Moto to simply do what they said when they released the device, by providing fast updates for 18 months and not drop support for this clearly capable device. This could easily effect all of you in the future just like Moto is trying to do to these devices if we don't call Lenovo/Moto on their clear violation of what they stated previously as if they get away with this, what is to stop them from providing updates for any other device in a far shorter time span than promised.
Part of the beauty of Moto devices was the promise of a near stock Android experience with fast updates for an 18 month period, this is one of the reasons many of us purchased these devices over other choices that were available, we should hold Moto to what they sold us on and letting them get away with not doing that now will likely mean other devices will be dropped before their time in the future.
As of this posting, we have over 680 supporters and could still use everyone's support.
I thank you in advance for your assistance. Feel free to share this link in any appropriate group or community you chose.

acejavelin said:
Please sign our petition requesting Moto to provide the Android N update to the Moto G 2015 and Moto G Turbo.
https://www.change.org/p/motorola-please-include-moto-g-3rd-gen-for-android-nougat-update
You may be wondering why I am asking other Moto owners to support the G3 and Turbo by signing our petition... We are asking Moto to simply do what they said when they released the device, by providing fast updates for 18 months and not drop support for this clearly capable device. This could easily effect all of you in the future just like Moto is trying to do to these devices if we don't call Lenovo/Moto on their clear violation of what they stated previously as if they get away with this, what is to stop them from providing updates for any other device in a far shorter time span than promised.
Part of the beauty of Moto devices was the promise of a near stock Android experience with fast updates for an 18 month period, this is one of the reasons many of us purchased these devices over other choices that were available, we should hold Moto to what they sold us on and letting them get away with not doing that now will likely mean other devices will be dropped before their time in the future.
As of this posting, we have over 680 supporters and could still use everyone's support.
I thank you in advance for your assistance. Feel free to share this link in any appropriate group or community you chose.
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This is moto g4 group bro .!
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Hari Haran said:
This is moto g4 group bro .!
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I am well aware... I wrote a root tutorial for G4.
Did you read my post? I am asking all Moto users to sign this petition, not because we just want Nougat, but because Moto has a history of 18 months of support for a device and "lightning fast updates" and if they just drop one of the most popular handsets of the last year without following through, what is to stop them from doing it to the G4, G4 Plus, Z, or any other model Moto device going forward.
BTW, I don't even use the Moto G 2015 anymore (my son "borrowed" it when he broke the screen on his HAM2)... I have moved on to the MXPE, but I am still supporting the ENTIRE Moto community where I can, and writing root tutorials and spreading the word on this are some of the ways I can help.

acejavelin said:
I am well aware... I wrote a root tutorial for G4.
Did you read my post? I am asking all Moto users to sign this petition, not because we just want Nougat, but because Moto has a history of 18 months of support for a device and "lightning fast updates" and if they just drop one of the most popular handsets of the last year without following through, what is to stop them from doing it to the G4, G4 Plus, Z, or any other model Moto device going forward.
BTW, I don't even use the Moto G 2015 anymore (my son "borrowed" it when he broke the screen on his HAM2)... I have moved on to the MXPE, but I am still supporting the ENTIRE Moto community where I can, and writing root tutorials and spreading the word on this are some of the ways I can help.
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Yeah thanks..I understand.. I'll share and sign it bruh
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Hari Haran said:
Yeah thanks..I understand.. I'll share and sign it bruh
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Awesome! Thanks for your help!

Signed!?
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Happy to see users standing upto "Motonova" ... Although now I'm a bit concerned about how many more updates my G4 plus will receive...
Signed the petition.
Realistically speaking, will they start working on the update based on this petition?

harith.unnikrishnan said:
Happy to see users standing upto "Motonova" ... Although now I'm a bit concerned about how many more updates my G4 plus will receive...
Signed the petition.
Realistically speaking, will they start working on the update based on this petition?
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No idea... But if we do nothing we know the outcome already so there is nothing to lose here.
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where he has read about 18 months support ??

magdeoz said:
where he has read about 18 months support ??
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18 months has been the Motorola standard since they agreed (like most major OEMs) to the Google standard for updates in 2011... Google it, its not hard to find. Although "promise" is probably not the right term to use, it has been the standard Moto has used in general for some time where technically possible in unlocked devices (carrier branded devices don't count, because... Carriers). Also, they have failed in their clearly visible marketing promises of "lightning fast updates", Google that and you will find a multitude of references to it.
But I am not here to argue, just ask for your assistance for a few seconds by signing the petition, if you read it and disagree... Fine, walk away... Otherwise we would appreciate everyone's assistance.
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Done! Let's hope this works in our favour
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I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has signed the petition... We have exceeded the 1000 signature milestone and received confirmation this be a featured story on at least major Android news outlet in the coming days.
I am still requesting everyone to actively sign the petition.
Again, thank you.
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Yeah, let's think what we are asking here. Divert developing time from the models that where announced to "support" a model that probably was tested already and had issues that determined the Lenovo team to leave it aside. Sometimes there are small things like... speaker not working right, or camera drivers not being available anymore, or Lenovo not having access the correct documentation for those devices, or... who knows what. The models need to be also tested and approved by carriers in their own homologation labs.
A "petition" like this will just result in put more burden on existing developing team, is not like Lenovo will say "ah, ok, lets hire more devs because those guys at XDA are upset"...
So... it's NO from me.

SoNic67 said:
Yeah, let's think what we are asking here. Divert developing time from the models that where announced to "support" a model that probably was tested already and had issues that determined the Lenovo team to leave it aside. Sometimes there are small things like... speaker not working right, or camera drivers not being available anymore, or Lenovo not having access the correct documentation for those devices, or... who knows what. The models need to be also tested and approved by carriers in their own homologation labs.
A "petition" like this will just result in put more burden on existing developing team, is not like Lenovo will say "ah, ok, lets hire more devs because those guys at XDA are upset"...
So... it's NO from me.
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Well, you are in the minority on this but I understand and respect your opinion.
Hopefully we don't have go through this for you next year...
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Yeah, thanks, but I usually sell my phone and get a new one every 18 months. And if it is still working as new, I don't die to have the latest version of OS. On most of the older devices, newer OS it will cause problems anyway

SoNic67 said:
Yeah, thanks, but I usually sell my phone and get a new one every 18 months. And if it is still working as new, I don't die to have the latest version of OS. On most of the older devices, newer OS it will cause problems anyway
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Cm 14 runs extremely fine on moto E itself..why not the g3
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Hari Haran said:
Cm 14 runs extremely fine on moto E itself..why not the g3
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It runs mostly fine, with a few camera/video and BT glitches... But no VoLTE. We really need the kernel source and proprietary blobs for Nougat for an optimal experience. But I'm sure your CM14 is just like ours, a hack hybrid of Marshmallow and Nougat.
I am sure devs would eventually get everything working, but if we had those things it would be so much easier.
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While I am worried that this will divert and delay development for the devices that have already been announced to be supported I also believe that the moto g3 and moto g turbo should at least have a chance to receive nougat

khaoticking said:
While I am worried that this will divert and delay development for the devices that have already been announced to be supported I also believe that the moto g3 and moto g turbo should at least have a chance to receive nougat
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Part of the whole point of this is that getting N on these devices will take minimal work because they are almost identical to models slated to get Nougat already, there shouldn't be any real effects on other devices...
I suggest reading this article: http://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-and-updates-how-the-oem-plays-up-on-planned-obsolescence
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[PETITION] Calling all Moto owners

Please sign our petition requesting Moto to provide the Android N update to the Moto G 2015 and Moto G Turbo.
https://www.change.org/p/motorola-please-include-moto-g-3rd-gen-for-android-nougat-update
You may be wondering why I am asking other Moto owners to support the G3 and Turbo by signing our petition... We are asking Moto to simply do what they said when they released the device, by providing fast updates for 18 months and not drop support for this clearly capable device. This could easily effect all of you in the future just like Moto is trying to do to these devices if we don't call Lenovo/Moto on their clear violation of what they stated previously as if they get away with this, what is to stop them from providing updates for any other device in a far shorter time span than promised.
Part of the beauty of Moto devices was the promise of a near stock Android experience with fast updates for an 18 month period, this is one of the reasons many of us purchased these devices over other choices that were available, we should hold Moto to what they sold us on and letting them get away with not doing that now will likely mean other devices will be dropped before their time in the future.
As of this posting, we have over 680 supporters and could still use everyone's support.
I thank you in advance for your assistance. Feel free to share this link in any appropriate group or community you chose.

Isn't the problem here that although Motorola suggested an 18 month cycle, Lenovo are now the owners? As such, Lenovo have brought in their own update policy which supersedes Motorola's previous policy.
I would gladly support your little protest, however, it will be in vain.
We tried this when Sony reneged on their support for the Xperia SP.
I'm sure enthusiasts will rally to create custom ROMS for the G - Xperia SP still lives on with Nougat and so will the Moto G.
Either be resigned to your lot; look forward to custom development or move on.
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I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has signed the petition... We have exceeded the 1000 signature milestone and received confirmation this be a featured story on at least major Android news outlet in the coming days.
I am still requesting everyone to actively sign the petition.
Again, thank you.
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