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Hi guys,
Since we saw Android 4.4 launch today we heard Sundar Pichai Saying "It will support devices with minimum of 512MB RAM" I think we can hope our HTC One S will be directly updated to Android 4.4. Since this "Once Flagship" device meets every requirement for Getting Kitkat treatment can anyone tell me whether our One S will be updated to Android 4.4???
revosa said:
Hi guys,
Since we saw Android 4.4 launch today we heard Sundar Pichai Saying "It will support devices with minimum of 512MB RAM" I think we can hope our HTC One S will be directly updated to Android 4.4. Since this "Once Flagship" device meets every requirement for Getting Kitkat treatment can anyone tell me whether our One S will be updated to Android 4.4???
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No. It has been discontinued, get over it. Also One S wasn't even a flagship.
4.4 wasn't made to support older devices, it's so the low-end devices won't lag so much.
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Yeah. I don't think there's any phone that will get updated with the lower requirements of KitKat.
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dakoookie said:
Yeah. I don't think there's any phone that will get updated with the lower requirements of KitKat.
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These new "lower requirements" will pretty much just be for all phones moving forward, large and small. From this point on, all phones of any speed and power will be able to be released with the same software. But I don't see any of the major players suddenly deciding that now is a good time to dust off their old models and suddenly provide an update for it.
we WILL get kitkat, one way or another
It probably HAS a good chance since HTC announced the day after release it will roll out 4.4 kitkat over the next 90 days. It will be ported to a new rom i'm sure.
FrankyDoodle said:
No. It has been discontinued, get over it. Also One S wasn't even a flagship.
4.4 wasn't made to support older devices, it's so the low-end devices won't lag so much.
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But there has been no confirmation from HTC that it wont serve us KITKAT right? And they ve even discontinued Sense5 update so being a new and affordable update i think it will make them rethink their decisions
revosa said:
But there has been no confirmation from HTC that it wont serve us KITKAT right? And they ve even discontinued Sense5 update so being a new and affordable update i think it will make them rethink their decisions
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They never gave support on 4.2+ to the One S, and never will. If you manage to convince them let me know.
I'm not trying to sound harsh but no one should get their hopes up so high and then be disappointed when there's no update.
If HTC will update the One XL to 4.4 we'll probably get a working porting of the Sense 5.5.
But we'll also get some 4.4 AOSP ROMs...thats sure...
(Sorry for my bad english)
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dd98 said:
we WILL get kitkat, one way or another
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yup, I agree with you.
Hi All.
I went from Mate 7 to P8max and can't really notice any difference in the roms and I was upset that Mate 7 never got an update to 5.11. Very excited to get p8max to find there is no real difference. I have watched a few videos of the differences up to 5.11 and it is quite a lot like better dual sim handling, seems to gone on the p8max. It's like Huawei wiped all the good stuff and skinned the whole phone with there own crap.
What are other peoples thoughts, is there a way to remove the Huawei skinning?
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Hi All.
I went from Mate 7 to P8max and can't really notice any difference in the roms and I was upset that Mate 7 never got an update to 5.11. Very excited to get p8max to find there is no real difference. I have watched a few videos of the differences up to 5.11 and it is quite a lot like better dual sim handling, seems to gone on the p8max. It's like Huawei wiped all the good stuff and skinned the whole phone with there own crap.
What are other peoples thoughts, is there a way to remove the Huawei skinning?
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I guess we are going to have to wait for some developers to jump on board, I would love this phone In a nice clean AOSP rom but I dont think that ever going to happen.
I have for the most part installed all my normal google apps and launcher to at least get it to somewhere normal for my taste (coming from nexus 6)
fergie_uk said:
I guess we are going to have to wait for some developers to jump on board, I would love this phone In a nice clean AOSP rom but I dont think that ever going to happen.
I have for the most part installed all my normal google apps and launcher to at least get it to somewhere normal for my taste (coming from nexus 6)
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You should have some patience.
CyanogenMod team provided device specs for the mate 2 & the Nexus 6P will be built by Huawei, so the source code will definitely have something in common with the p8.
It should be available next week once the Nexus announcement is made.
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You should have some patience.
CyanogenMod team provided device specs for the mate 2 & the Nexus 6P will be built by Huawei, so the source code will definitely have something in common with the p8.
It should be available next week once the Nexus announcement is made.
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The Nexus 6P is running snapdragon so that's not usable for us. We need at least source code from one device that's running the same cpu and similar spec in order to even start to build the device tree.
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Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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it is possible, but i don't know what will happened
From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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There's no doubt we'll see the next version after Marshmallow on this phone, but I can guarantee you it won't be in the form of official updates via Cyanogen Inc, it'll be in the form of community developed ROMs via CyanogenMod. If you meant CyanogenMod and not Cyanogen Inc then I misunderstood you.
I just meant Roms in general
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Moto E: cheap budget phone that I think people only bought as a placeholder when they broke a phone or something else happened, it's not a flagship. nobody bought it to use for 2+ years and I don't think it was intended as such.
Moto x: did you see that the pure is getting updated? That means it was the carriers decision, not Motorola's. Also, it's easy to convert the att/Verizon version to the pure version and then you'll get the update fine.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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As soon as Lenovo brought out Pure they let go about 500 Motorola employees, many who were in the dev department... They are giving people hard times about returns saying it will take 6-8 weeks to get their money back on an overnight return label. The pure QC is piss poor, if you go to their forums, their most popular thread is about returning the phone... This clearly isn't the same Motorola we used to love. I'm not big on OnePlus either, I only came back here, because at least I know my OnePlus works, I'll never buy from them again though, that's for sure.
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Here they don't say we will get COS13 but only Oxygen / Hydrogen :
http://www.gadgetlite.in/2015/10/here-is-list-of-devices-getting-android.html#.VhNtuWuBS6F
But since the communication of Cyanogen is not really a "thing" I won't settle for this news
Source has dropped, so we might see devs starting to build soon
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/marshmallow-release
Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
Well i think it will be possible to get a bootable AOSP 6.0 Rom , cause we already had a booting 5.1.51 Rom!
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Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
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the radio issues are driving me nuts, no matter what modem i use i still run into issues.
Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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Agreed. Look at when we finally got 5.1.1...SMH
BTW, pretty sure you meant Cyanogen Inc, not CM
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Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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The probability is high that we'll get a taste (not likely daily driver level sweet mind you) of Marshmallow by tomorrow:
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Hello everybody, I don't know if you all are familiar with this new API, it seems like is very promising and I have read that it will bring mobile gaming to a new level. Look for more info on google, its pretty interesting.
Now, the Galaxy S7 is the first phone that will come with this API, my question is, do you think that our phone will support it? For now we have OpenGL ES and Vulkan is gonna be way faster, hopefully will get this, since is just a software update. What you guys think?
So, no body interesting in this matter?
This place is always pretty dead...
I have the new Marshmallow update on my Nvidia Shield TV which has the new Vulkan API. I have not had a chance yet to try a game that utilizes the API but from what I read on the topic, it makes a big difference less processing power required, higher frame-rates, etc. There's a few examples of the API in use on YouTube also that show some side by sides.
According to this article, these are the current games that support the API with Marshmallow. "Real Racing 3, Oddworld Munch’s Oddysee, Minecraft Story Mode, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, and Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories."
So, now that we have marshmallow, is there any way to get Vulkan on pur phones? Anybody?
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It's not available yet
Most likely not. Samsung, I doubt, will be issuing any more updates to this phone that aren't simply minor incremental updates or security patches. I don't believe a developer can make this into a stock rom as well but I could be wrong.
On the extreme side of things, from what I have read, N will is being built with Vulkan in mind or at least to a degree. It might be easier to add it then to a phone on N if the manufacturer doesn't include the API.
I wish I was wrong but given Samsung's track record and how long it took for MM to come, N is going to be a Note 6 and up deal.
Now if we had a viable aosp rom then I would say it's possible but that definately won't happen anytime soon or likely ever.
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Most likely not. Samsung, I doubt, will be issuing any more updates to this phone that aren't simply minor incremental updates or security patches. I don't believe a developer can make this into a stock rom as well but I could be wrong.
On the extreme side of things, from what I have read, N will is being built with Vulkan in mind or at least to a degree. It might be easier to add it then to a phone on N if the manufacturer doesn't include the API.
I wish I was wrong but given Samsung's track record and how long it took for MM to come, N is going to be a Note 6 and up deal.
Now if we had a viable aosp rom then I would say it's possible but that definately won't happen anytime soon or likely ever.
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Aosp COULD happen...RaymanFX has been working on porting cm13 to our device and there's currently folks looking to get him a exynos 7420 dev device in a fundraiser thread that has quite a few donations, and about 2 days ago (maybe 3?) he just merged the pd1 source, if you follow his github, you can maybe decider a little more effectively than myself just how close he is to a booting compile...
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Aosp COULD happen...RaymanFX has been working on porting cm13 to our device and there's currently folks looking to get him a exynos 7420 dev device in a fundraiser thread that has quite a few donations, and about 2 days ago (maybe 3?) he just merged the pd1 source, if you follow his github, you can maybe decider a little more effectively than myself just how close he is to a booting compile...
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This is refreshing to hear and I'm glad you are proving me wrong in this aspect. Thank you for the update.
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NXLTrauma25 said:
This is refreshing to hear and I'm glad you are proving me wrong in this aspect. Thank you for the update.
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Well, it hasn't happened yet, but all hope isn't as lost as you maybe thought, at least! So there's that! Lol
Any news???
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For anyone interested there's a booting unreleased version of cm13 out...it's buggy and early but it boots! RaymanFX has done a great job with truly uncharted waters!
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For anyone interested there's a booting unreleased version of cm13 out...it's buggy and early but it boots! RaymanFX has done a great job with truly uncharted waters!
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CM has always had issues, even using Qualcomm SoCs that have the developer documentation behind them that the Exynos does not. I doubt there will ever be a stable CM or any other AOSP build. Stable enough for daily use, maybe, but things will always be broken.
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CM has always had issues, even using Qualcomm SoCs that have the developer documentation behind them that the Exynos does not. I doubt there will ever be a stable CM or any other AOSP build. Stable enough for daily use, maybe, but things will always be broken.
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Indeed, i think you're correct there.
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I know there someone on xda that has ported S7 romantic to the Note 5. I asked about the functionality ofor Vulkan. Had not heard back.
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I know there someone on xda that has ported S7 romantic to the Note 5. I asked about the functionality ofor Vulkan. Had not heard back.
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There's lots of s7 rom ports...
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Just saw that the Android N just came out....
What now, will someone port the version over to S7 devices or will be have to wait on Samsung to update :/ ?
We have to wait Samsung..I will test CM 14 on my Moto G 2013 when it's released
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Damn, i want it asap
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Damn, i want it asap
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You're not the only one
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
Shuuin said:
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
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Any developers here would do it if it was somwhat posibile but Samsung doesn't release the source code of Exynos so it's somewhat impossibile. It's like you need to build a town with buildings but you don't have a map of pipes to see here you need to put it...
Developers need to write all the drivers and with guessing what where it goes and really is impossibile.
My Moto G 2013 will get CM 14 beacuse Motorola released the source code for Android 5.1 and they have a starting point. Here we have nothing.
Not going to happen. We'll see it in roughly six months.... Oh well... Samsung supports their devices like one time phones. Only sales matters no support. They have let their customers down so many times now...
I'm afraid that they'll make some patch and security update of Android 6 for S7/Edge sooner. But let's hope that they'll push hard for Note 7 and some king will port it on S7.
I'd start hunt for it. I feel free to give 20 USD donate for stable (almost) clean Android 7 ROM
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Im sure the international phones will get it this year, carrier phones will get it next year heh
As Eurofighter_ty said above, there will be no "porting" of Android N (or any other non-Touchwiz ROM like CyanogenMod) to a Samsung device with an Exynos SoC due to proprietary sources that Samsung will not release. There are exceptions where an extremely talented and motivated dev takes the time to reverse engineer drivers.
If history serves, it will be several months before Samsung starts rolling Nougat out, newest and most important devices first (N7, S7, S7E...). These are things to know before buying any Samsung device.
Maybe, i should just wait for S8 then XD
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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thx cusa
I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
GalaxyGusta said:
I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
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I would agree, I've seen major android updates in the past where its been like a step backwards and so it only leads to disappointment. Hopefully we are at a stage with android where this update (6 to 7) is more of a polishing of the current OS. Yes I know there are some additional features but its not a major overhaul as we've had in the past. I think most people would mostly appreciate some better consistency with battery life, Im not saying mine isnt good but there still seems to be a high android OS usage,so hopefully the enhanced doze feature tackles this, but we'll see. The one benefit of not getting the update right now is that over the next few months hopefully a lot of issues will be ironed out, for instance app compatibility. There are almost always cases where "I've just upgraded but now XXXX app doesnt work??" and you have to wait for the dev to update so their app so that it works nicely with the latest release.
Some of the Android N features are already in the S7. Multi window for example. Or Android for Work which overlaps with Knox. Other stuff is nice but only for new devices, like the seamless updates. The new JIT may be an exception, and the new graphics subsystem would also be nice.
About the VR stuff: I double Samsung will enable it for the Gear VR but we can of course hope.
Expect to have android N next year around April or May
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