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[Q] To root or not to root? Nexus 7 2013 (Noob here)

Hi, tomorrow I'm getting a nexus 7 (2013), and it's going to be my first android device, the thing is, as the first android device, I don't want to screw it up as soon as I get it.
There are some apps which I would like to get for it, for example the sixaxis controller app and anti ads apps but they require rooting, so the question is, should I root it and how safe is rooting. As my first tablet I want to be kinda safe about it, the thing which worries me the most is "bricking" and the fact that the warranty turns void, so I want to know how actually safe it is to root, I know there are different kinds of bricking, I already asked a guy on a youtube video and he said that it's unusual to get a nexus device bricked, expecially hard bricked, but he said that if it's hard bricked I'm kinda stuck, so is there no actual solution for some kind of bricking, please give me some advice, also this is my first post on the xda-developers forums, I was going to put links to the things I mentioned but I need to have at least 10 posts to put outside links :/.

MadJohny said:
Hi, tomorrow I'm getting a nexus 7 (2013), and it's going to be my first android device, the thing is, as the first android device, I don't want to screw it up as soon as I get it.
There are some apps which I would like to get for it, for example the sixaxis controller app and anti ads apps but they require rooting, so the question is, should I root it and how safe is rooting. As my first tablet I want to be kinda safe about it, the thing which worries me the most is "bricking" and the fact that the warranty turns void, so I want to know how actually safe it is to root, I know there are different kinds of bricking, I already asked a guy on a youtube video and he said that it's unusual to get a nexus device bricked, expecially hard bricked, but he said that if it's hard bricked I'm kinda stuck, so is there no actual solution for some kind of bricking, please give me some advice, also this is my first post on the xda-developers forums, I was going to put links to the things I mentioned but I need to have at least 10 posts to put outside links :/.
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Welcome to the forum!
Rooting is safe, as long as you don't do stupid things, if you stay responsible, nothing bad could ever happen. Responsible means Googling if you don't know something, and if something looks risky, don't do it and maybe search for an alternative.
I have rooted 8 devices, so far, never has one been bricked.
The rooting proces alone is really easy, even someone with no Android experience, like you, can do that.
But with rooting you'll have to unlock the bootloader of your device, that means all data of your Nexus will be erased, so it's good to root the Nexus 7 right after you buy it, so you'll lose no important data.
This thread will give you a toolkit for Windows, in which you can root and unlock the bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430708 (use option 3 in the root section, everything is automatic)
Before doing anything, please read really good, and if you don't know what something means, Google it first.
With a custom recovery, you can make a full backup of the current state of your device, so if it's bricked, you can access the custom recovery and restore the backup.
So what you have to do when you buy the Nexus 7, download and install the toolkit, go to the root section, click action 3 (unlocked bootloader, root and custom recovery). You're rooted. Then go to custom recovery (Google it if you don't know how to get there), and make a backup, so if anything happens and you are bricked, use a key combination to get in recovery and restore the backup, just like nothing happened
Hope this is enough for you!
Don't forget, if you have a question, feel free to PM me or to reply on this thread

Ibrahim9999 said:
Welcome to the forum!
Rooting is safe, as long as you don't do stupid things, if you stay responsible, nothing bad could ever happen. Responsible means Googling if you don't know something, and if something looks risky, don't do it and maybe search for an alternative.
I have rooted 8 devices, so far, never has one been bricked.
The rooting proces alone is really easy, even someone with no Android experience, like you, can do that.
But with rooting you'll have to unlock the bootloader of your device, that means all data of your Nexus will be erased, so it's good to root the Nexus 7 right after you buy it, so you'll lose no important data.
This thread will give you a toolkit for Windows, in which you can root and unlock the bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430708 (use option 3 in the root section, everything is automatic)
Before doing anything, please read really good, and if you don't know what something means, Google it first.
With a custom recovery, you can make a full backup of the current state of your device, so if it's bricked, you can access the custom recovery and restore the backup.
So what you have to do when you buy the Nexus 7, download and install the toolkit, go to the root section, click action 3 (unlocked bootloader, root and custom recovery). You're rooted. Then go to custom recovery (Google it if you don't know how to get there), and make a backup, so if anything happens and you are bricked, use a key combination to get in recovery and restore the backup, just like nothing happened
Hope this is enough for you!
Don't forget, if you have a question, feel free to PM me or to reply on this thread
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Ok, thanks for the information, I was going to update the nexus to kitkat when I get it, so if I root it with kitkat I will still have the kitkat version right? I still don't think I'll root it when I get it, but this makes me feel safer about it, and when you say lose important data what do you mean? basically it will delete all the files I have on my nexus that weren't there in the first place(when I buy it) right?

MadJohny said:
Ok, thanks for the information, I was going to update the nexus to kitkat when I get it, so if I root it with kitkat I will still have the kitkat version right? I still don't think I'll root it when I get it, but this makes me feel safer about it, and when you say lose important data what do you mean? basically it will delete all the files I have on my nexus that weren't there in the first place(when I buy it) right?
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Yes, you're right about the last question.
When you root it, the KitKat version stays the same, don't worry.
Can you please thank my posts? Little effort from you and it really helps me

Ibrahim9999 said:
Yes, you're right about the last question.
When you root it, the KitKat version stays the same, don't worry.
Can you please thank my posts? Little effort from you and it really helps me
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Ok I thanked the posts, I already have my nexus 7, udpating it to kitkat right now, I will think about rooting later, I can do other stuff without it
edit: one more thing, does some of the apps that come with nexus get deleted on rooting? for example play store

that's right, rooting is safe if you know what you do, and do read first tutorials before doing it...goodluck

MadJohny said:
Ok I thanked the posts, I already have my nexus 7, udpating it to kitkat right now, I will think about rooting later, I can do other stuff without it
edit: one more thing, does some of the apps that come with nexus get deleted on rooting? for example play store
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No, literally nothing changes in your Nexus 7 with rooting, except for 1 extra app being added. That's it.

actually it is depends on your own
if you are going to use some apps which are needed to root then you have no choice but to root
like Titanium Backup, Greenify, Autostarts, AdAway, etc

Rooting
Rooting is fine but it comes with great consequences like bad security and you can brick it, there's many things that can go wrong. But if you get thru that daunting, annoying and sometimes scary process of rooting you open a world of freedom and fun.

[Q] should i root my htc one

I have an HTC one 32 GB from at&t and love it,but want more out of it,however I have never rooted a phone I have only jailbroke my iPod and know that rooting is a lot more dangerous and don't know if I should risk it

Install Farmaroot - it should be the easiest way.
HTC One S is supported.

It is safe If you do everything correctly Do a lot of research and read how to do it before trying ! don't just jump into it !
But remember to root your phone you need to unlock your bootloader which voids your warranty ! and if you unlock your bootloader using HTCDev It's impossible to get your warranty back ! even if you relock the bootloader
so just make up your mind ! if i were you i would do it !

Depends on what you mean by getting more out of it, if you want to try out different roms then yeah, you'll definitely have to root it.
It's a lot more complicated with rooting versus jailbreaking however I'm sure you've got the technical know how, and as backbone said, just do your research and if you get lost/confused along the way, just ask on the forums.

I rooted my phone a week ago and it's worth it
and happy to have rooted my phone
it's WORTH IT
just make sure you see how to root the phone befor you try it

Do you want to uninstall stock apps? or run apps which need root permissions? do you want to change to an alternative rom?, ... then root the phone if not there is no need to root it
luckmonsoon said:
I have an HTC one 32 GB from at&t and love it,but want more out of it,however I have never rooted a phone I have only jailbroke my iPod and know that rooting is a lot more dangerous and don't know if I should risk it
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I would assume anyone considering rooting requires root for something they wanna do.
As long as you're safe and smart about it, I really see no reason not to. You don't lockdown your pc if you don't mess around in the system

I don't see a reaseon why would you root your htc one coz the phone works pretty good(optimization is great).
In other hand if you want to do developing or smth like that i would tell you to go for it.

luckmonsoon said:
I have an HTC one 32 GB from at&t and love it,but want more out of it,however I have never rooted a phone I have only jailbroke my iPod and know that rooting is a lot more dangerous and don't know if I should risk it
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xda-developers

You are on a developers site asking if you should root. I can almost guarantee that every answer will be yes.
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So you can no longer root p900?

I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.

rirawin said:
I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.
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Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.

nrage23 said:
Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.
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Thanks, so no issues with rooting with latest firmware?.

http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.

rirawin said:
http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.
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I love how that guide says all variants and then makes no mention of the P907. I would love to be able to use a custom recovery. Unless the P907 falls under the LTE moniker even though the model number is different?

Yes, TWRP works with P900
I went through this a week ago (with some help) and once I figured out how to get TWRP 2.8 to flash using Odin the process of rooting and installing a custom rom was easy. There is a thread a little lower on this forum that goes through the process.
Keith

do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?

rirawin said:
do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?
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I can't post a link but the thread is in this forum. I have not unrooted but there are several threads that mention going back to stock.

Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/

okay
rirawin said:
Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/
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I do not have enough posts to link an email. About three weeks ago I had the same question. The thread is in this forum on page 3, 5 or so messages down. I am the op, stedmakr. Gastrom answered the thread, provided a link and helped me root the p900 and install his rom (its excellent). Sorry I can't post links. Page 3 of this forum.
Keith

http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...reliable-root-method-p900-build-bnk1-t2986600
I still don't quite understand, I just like to root to get sd card fix

Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
Wytaptalkowane na notatniku

Peri Noid said:
Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Nope, no way to avoid Knox trip.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

can anyone confirm please, is this the method to root:
https://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
So after I done that, I update su user and then I install sdfix is that right?.

anyone please?

Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.

muzzy996 said:
Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.
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Well said mate! Well said.
If someone's gonna root their tablet, especially one of this caliber & price point. Then they should know how to recover it back to stock on their own. Concerning the tripping of Knox, who cares! Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM. That topic has been discussed to death in another thread. If your going to root this thing, then root it and live on! LoL ?
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Android.Ninja said:
Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM.
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Not here in Poland...

Just got a new Z3 and want to root

So I just got my new Sony Xperia Z3 but unfortunately it's D6603 model so no 32GB goodness which means I probably need Link2SD as I'll end up with probably about 10GB user available storage after all the updated which means I need to root.
I haven't even turned the phone on yet, it's still sitting there charging, but let's assume for a moment that it's not yet on Lollipop and still running KitKat which should mean I have various easy rooting methods at my disposal, right?
So what I'm asking is what would be the easiest (and most universal/in other words covering the most versions) root I could use.
I don't care about custom this or whatever, I want to keep my phone as stock as possible, I just want to be able to use Link2SD and maybe Titanium Backup, so if possible I'd prefer not to add a custom recovery or mess with anything beyond getting root access for those 2 apps.
I know I will have to check the bootloader first (I assume it's already unlocked though given the phone it's an international version that isn't carrier locked but that's a different problem anyways). But after that is there a recommended one-click root to use that alters as little as possible and covers as many android versions as possible? Or something almost as easy?
I don't want easy because my technical knowledge is lacking by the way, I want easy because the fewer steps there are the less I can screw up and I'm terrified of bricking the phone....so terrified I've resisted rooting my previous two android phones even after getting replacement phones, but I really need Link2SD now.

Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?
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Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk

use kingroot with chainfire's supersu

ondrejvaroscak said:
Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
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I know there are many options, I was hoping to be pointed to what someone considers the ideal easy way. My very problem was that I was inundated by potential rooting options but many either modified more than I would have liked or some seemed suspect/too good to be true (no way there are 30 accepted one-click root programs for this phone) so I'd been hoping someone would help me find the right tree in the forest of options I was looking at.
Anyways today I finally turned the phone on and to my great dismay found that it was already fully up to date (well our local network OTA updates may be a revision or 2 behind international updates) and running Lollipop 5.02 and I gave up all hope then there but Kingroot looked so easy that I decided to try it anyways and to my great surprise and tremendous delight it worked perfectly. Downloaded rootchecker and I'm fully rooted. Tried Link2SD and I'm extremely pleased to say that I have all of Asphalt 8 - Airborne's massive bulk as well as Spiderman Unlimited taking up space on my SD card and most of my user available internal storage remains unused.
I think I'm going to stay with KingRoot's app though and not switch to SuperSU, I don't want there to be any chance of losing this root access (I know it shouldn't happen but I desperately need Link2SD to stay happy so I don't want to rock the boat in any way).
So I guess this thread can be closed now.

Black Plague said:
use kingroot with chainfire's supersu
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Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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ondrejvaroscak said:
I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
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I don't have anything sensitive on my phone, I'd prefer they didn't spy on me of course but as far as I'm concerned they can have every shred of info they want. All I need is root access for Link2SD, I don't need the rock-solid and proven SuperSU for that and I don't want any more features incase that offers more.
Since KingRoot has given my phone a chance at a decent life I'm willing to trust them until being shown info to the contrary (and I mean more than just them knowing my IMEI number).

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser

Black Plague said:
Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser
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Besides having the more trusted app what would I gain from SuperSU? Does it to do more? Besides the engrish the Super User app from Kingroot seems fine.
Can SuperSU also unroot my phone again (should I need to warranty claim) and also try to keep the root permanent even when updates happen (which Kingroot apparently tries to do even if it likely won't work)?
Oh by the way one more question with regards to rooting. Back when I had my Xperia neo apparently OTA updates would make you lose root but doing an update via the Sony PC companion program could maintain the root...is that still the case? Or do I lose root no matter what now?

Pc companion is a worthless pos. Believe me. Look for alts, anything that works with android to your liking. You'll be much happier. Kingroot is not needed AT ALL. Plus I don't like the fact it calls home. Reminds me of the latest lenovo fiasco where programs within the bios are calling home-wtf! Use the tested working giefroot, flashtool, xzdr stuff. My 2cents

TWRP, Root, modify system (adaway, etc), and unroot help

Hi,
Bassically I'm just trying to get my phone to be unrooted to pass SafetyNet (Android Pay, Pokemon Go, and others) but have some system modications (adaway and removed boot sounds mainly).
What I did do is flash stock odin firmware (PG1), then twrp, supersu, and make my changes. Then if I just unroot with supersu it still fails SafetyNet. If I unroot and tell SuperSU to restore boot.img then I get a bootloop. Probably due to TWRP still being there and not stock Recovery? So I thought maybe from there I can just flash boot and recovery via odin but that didn't seem to work either. Is it possible to take the stock firmware and flash whatever I need except system? Or not possible to alter system and go back to stock boot/recovery?
Thanks!

I don't play but here's a link for info
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk/

greco2003 said:
I don't play but here's a link for info
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk/
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That no longer works to pass SafetyNet. Last couple weeks there have been a couple of root/xposed solutions only for Google to changes SafetyNet and detect it. So I was thinking of just getting rid of root but hopefully keeping the couple system mods I like...

Not much help in here. Anyone know of a way to have a modified system but no root (or recovery if I don't need twrp)? Mainly I'd just like to update my hosts file and remove the stupid reboot "ding".
My hope was to modify system via twrp/supersu and then flash recovery/boot to get it back to stock but there must be some sort of check because that just causes dm-verity failed notification in stock recovery. I can unroot via the SuperSU app but unrooting and telling it to restore stock boot.img causes loop. Unroot and tell it to leave boot.img lets my phone work but still doesn't pass safetynet checks.
All this work makes me miss my HTC phones. They seemed so much easier to manipulate.

This guy's solution lets me have a stock system with some system modifications. So now I have what I wanted, passing Safety Net, removed boot sound and applied adaway hosts file!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/play-pokemon-root-switch-method-patched-t3483179

@henderjr i found this. Would this work under you're criteria needed??
https://theunlockr.com/2015/09/26/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-5-t-mobile-sprint-versions/
Im thinking of doing this also.
I know yur post is pretty old bug i just got my note recently but i had no idea there was such a lack in development for sprint version. If u did end up accomplishing unroot with eneabled security, let me know. Thanks

Abu Nazir said:
@henderjr i found this. Would this work under you're criteria needed??
https://theunlockr.com/2015/09/26/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-5-t-mobile-sprint-versions/
Im thinking of doing this also.
I know yur post is pretty old bug i just got my note recently but i had no idea there was such a lack in development for sprint version. If u did end up accomplishing unroot with eneabled security, let me know. Thanks
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That will unroot it but you'll also lose all system modifications so it'll be stock again. I wanted adaway hosts file and a couple other system mods. What I posted above did work for me but about six weeks ago I exchanged my Note 5 for a new one (camera died on the old one) and haven't rooted. I enjoy using Samsung Pay so I haven't tripped Knox yet.

henderjr said:
That will unroot it but you'll also lose all system modifications so it'll be stock again. I wanted adaway hosts file and a couple other system mods. What I posted above did work for me but about six weeks ago I exchanged my Note 5 for a new one (camera died on the old one) and haven't rooted. I enjoy using Samsung Pay so I haven't tripped Knox yet.
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Oh ok. Yep gotcha. Sorry i forgot u said that. Ive been reading so much on these forums in the past couple days im getting myself confused on what ive read and havent. Ok tho thanks alot. Really appreciate the reply tho on these dead forums. Lol. Thanks again