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Hi guys! I already asked this question but....why a smartphone as S PLUS received Android lollipop and Kernel 3.4.105 and the S advance is stop to KitKat and kernel 3.0.101? Thi our smartphone has absolutely no developer able to do it?:crying::crying:
giovibob said:
Hi guys! I already asked this question but....why a smartphone as S PLUS received Android lollipop and Kernel 3.4.105 and the S advance is stop to KitKat and kernel 3.0.101? Thi our smartphone has absolutely no developer able to do it?:crying::crying:
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bcz S plus has qualcomm snapdragon Soc (easily available sources ) and our crap has novathor which has no source ...so don't expect any new update for our device...even present source builds are not bug free for i9070 .
this thing made clear many times by many devs
so don't create new thread for this thye of Qs...we have Q&A thread plus search option.
This is amazing news. Although, I'm not sure whether this is going to affect our device or not. It's not that the devs are unable to pull this off, I think it's more of a matter of the practical aspect since most people follow the natural course and update their dated hardware. Nonetheless we can just hope that our device is not forgotten.
Team Canjica not give more support for janice, so no lollipop for S Advance
Janice sources are horrible, could compile lollipop, but with many bugs
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This is amazing news. Although, I'm not sure whether this is going to affect our device or not. It's not that the devs are unable to pull this off, I think it's more of a matter of the practical aspect since most people follow the natural course and update their dated hardware. Nonetheless we can just hope that our device is not forgotten.
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It's sad to say but it's already forgotten
I say too that our janice is forgotten...But remember this: never say never, although i think that janice can't run lollipop.We already experience lags on jb, cm.If we had 1gb ram,then was other story...but still hard to build lollipop without sources.
We won't get more performance using lollipop, we will get a slow device.
Why you really wants lollipop? Just for the look, isn't it? You can make a theme like that and that's it.
I know that is not allowed,but if anyone need that novathor sources which chinese guy posted on xda few months ago and know how to adapt them for lollipop (if is possible) tell me...i still have them in my pc and I'll never delete them.
What is the rom which is trully fast and smooth ? The answer is GIINGERBREAD. Yeah, it is outdated, but consume less ram, and that we need, free ram.
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What is the rom which is trully fast and smooth ? The answer is GIINGERBREAD. Yeah, it is outdated, but consume less ram, and that we need, free ram.
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Have you tried Vanir? I use it for like 6 months now and don't even think about anythink else. Fast, no fancy colorful stuff jumping at me from every menu, good battery life, what more can you want?
In a day or two I'll also put here the kernel I use with Vanir along with my new governor, if you're interested.
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Have you tried Vanir? I use it for like 6 months now and don't even think about anythink else. Fast, no fancy colorful stuff jumping at me from every menu, good battery life, what more can you want?
In a day or two I'll also put here the kernel I use with Vanir along with my new governor, if you're interested.
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I'm using first or second version of Vanir and I'm satisfied and i never updated. I installed many apps and became little slow. Gingerbread still better for ram management i think.
Why i use vanir ? Because i see that on this rom the camcorder isn't so darker like other roms, at least for me (after changing exposure). Although i record videos rarely, when i want to do it i don't want darker videos...
I'm interested in your kernel, and i think not just me
PS: i use just vanir and sami os
Hey guys, thinking of buying OnePlus one in 2018 and running a latest custom rom on it, i want to use it as a daily driver. your thoughts?
not worth it.....battery will be 4 years old, unless you get a replacement battery
custom rom maintainers are moving on to newer devices
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not worth it.....battery will be 4 years old, unless you get a replacement battery
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If I do get a new battery, will snap dragon 801 hold well to new games n apps?
The processor and the ram are ok for now. The problem is indeed the battery. Also replacement batteries are having issues except if with some lucky way find original
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If I do get a new battery, will snap dragon 801 hold well to new games n apps?
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new replacement battery has its own issues too.....broken parts while removing back cover, lousy quality battery because there aren't anymore original batteries
not sure about games as i don't really play games much
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If I do get a new battery, will snap dragon 801 hold well to new games n apps?
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PUBG Mobile runs great on LineageOS 15.1 with efficient battery profile.
Imho it depends on how much you have to pay for it and on the original battery condition. After 3 years my battery is at 80% of its original capacity and it's still good for daily usage.
Hardware is still good and custom ROM support will continue I think, but it's a bet if you want to be always updated.
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PUBG Mobile runs great on LineageOS 15.1 with efficient battery profile.
Imho it depends on how much you have to pay for it and on the original battery condition. After 3 years my battery is at 80% of its original capacity and it's still good for daily usage.
Hardware is still good and custom ROM support will continue I think, but it's a bet if you want to be always updated.
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Im getting it for $90, but battery condition is not certain, the reason im going for it is because of the custom roms, lineage and RR both are great roms and looking at the forums here RR still supports it officially. However can someone comment on the gaming performance and speed it handles daily tasks email, whatsapp, fb, etc.
It's a really great backup/dev phone. However, developers are moving on to newer devices, and battery availability is a huge problem. Only extreme long term solution is to port mainline Linux to bacon, or wait for postmarketOS and Halium to cook longer.
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It's a really great backup/dev phone. However, developers are moving on to newer devices, and battery availability is a huge problem. Only extreme long term solution is to port mainline Linux to bacon, or wait for postmarketOS and Halium to cook longer.
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i agree with you, thats why in $90 i could not find a better phone running the latest and greatest. If only some developer can shed some light on the topic. Or any user can tell about the daily handling of tasks.
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i agree with you, thats why in $90 i could not find a better phone running the latest and greatest. If only some developer can shed some light on the topic. Or any user can tell about the daily handling of tasks.
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Everything (except 3D games and camera) works perfectly fine, I almost regret buying my Galaxy S8. Also keep in mind that the Snapdragon 801 is 32-bit only, so a small handful of apps may not be compatible, and even more in the future. Expect OnePlus One to be the next HTC HD2.
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Everything (except 3D games and camera) works perfectly fine, I almost regret buying my Galaxy S8. Also keep in mind that the Snapdragon 801 is 32-bit only, so a small handful of apps may not be compatible, and even more in the future. Expect OnePlus One to be the next HTC HD2.
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That's a good reply. Thanks alot
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i agree with you, thats why in $90 i could not find a better phone running the latest and greatest. If only some developer can shed some light on the topic. Or any user can tell about the daily handling of tasks.
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In 90usd it is the best choice for a backup/secondary device.Yeah,it can run almost everything you throw at it.All the games and apps still works very well without any issues.Just make sure to take a look at the battery life of the device.However,I wouldn't recommend it for a primary device.
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In 90usd it is the best choice for a backup/secondary device.Yeah,it can run almost everything you throw at it.All the games and apps still works very well without any issues.Just make sure to take a look at the battery life of the device.However,I wouldn't recommend it for a primary device.
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Just one small question.. why wont you recommend it for a daily driver?
If you're getting it for $90, it's a good deal
I've been using bacon for about an year now, on RR nougat, just upgraded to RR Oreo a week back. It's a good experience. Only thing which you should worry about is battery life. If the battery is in good condition, it'll easily last you a day. Also, check and call your local Oneplus service centres for official battery replacement in case you need one and the cost of it. I live in India and genuine battery replacement is available here.
Now talking about daily driver capability. It'll easily handle your day to day tasks of social media, emails, memes etc. You'll wish it had a better camera though. Games will work snappy with appealing graphics. SD 801 and 3 GB LPDDR3 will give you nothing to complain about. But one thing i should tell you is that it doesn't support VoLTE.
Ask me anything about this wonderful device, I'll be happy to tell you.
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I've been using bacon for about an year now, on RR nougat, just upgraded to RR Oreo a week back. It's a good experience. Only thing which you should worry about is battery life. If the battery is in good condition, it'll easily last you a day. Also, check and call your local Oneplus service centres for official battery replacement in case you need one and the cost of it. I live in India and genuine battery replacement is available here.
Now talking about daily driver capability. It'll easily handle your day to day tasks of social media, emails, memes etc. You'll wish it had a better camera though. Games will work snappy with appealing graphics. SD 801 and 3 GB LPDDR3 will give you nothing to complain about. But one thing i should tell you is that it doesn't support VoLTE.
Ask me anything about this wonderful device, I'll be happy to tell you.
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Thanks for the detailed reply. Just one question, do you think the development for this phone will continue for years to come or have the developers already moved to other devices?
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Thanks for the detailed reply. Just one question, do you think the development for this phone will continue for years to come or have the developers already moved to other devices?
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It's the most popular phone running LineageOS (https://stats.lineageos.org/) - I'm hoping that development continues for ages as my battery is still fine, and the phone does everything I need it to with ease.
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It's the most popular phone running LineageOS (https://stats.lineageos.org/) - I'm hoping that development continues for ages as my battery is still fine, and the phone does everything I need it to with ease.
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But i noticed that new Oreo version of lineage OS is not offered officially. Is that the case?
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But i noticed that new Oreo version of lineage OS is not offered officially. Is that the case?
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There's a bug with upgrading, but 15.1 is "done" and working really well for OPO (for me, at least).
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But i noticed that new Oreo version of lineage OS is not offered officially. Is that the case?
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Only encryption bug, phone with encryption will lost all data if upgrade from 14.1. Thats all
Yes
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Thanks for the detailed reply. Just one question, do you think the development for this phone will continue for years to come or have the developers already moved to other devices?
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As many people have mentioned, this device is one of the most active devices running LOS right now (visit LOS stats, I can't post external links ), also, Resurrection Remix Oreo ROM for bacon has one of the largest Downloads/week for the devices the RR oreo is offered for. So yes, i think that the wonderful developer community will not forget bacon for at least an year from now. Btw, RR Oreo is pretty stable and you can use it as a daily driver without any doubts. I have over 200 apps and lots of data on my phone, and it is running almost as stable as a stock ROM
I haven't gotten my phone yet ordered it Saturday shipped today so 3 weeks I wait. As I wait I was wondering if the roms that are available on the 2 would work for the 2S and vice versa? (I have the 2s coming) I heard mostly same hardware just different cameras and wireless charging not sure much more has changed. Thanks for your input can't wait to root this phone and use it daily
No they wont work. However most of the project treble Roms work for our phone
Nope - use the available MiMix2s ROMS
Thanks to both of you I'll look into Project Treble Roms when I get the phone. I want the phone to function as intended and have root and a decent skin from the looks I'm not liking miui maybe i'll change my mind when i get it. Probably use Nova launcher but will want to root it anyway so thanks for your help.
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Thanks to both of you I'll look into Project Treble Roms when I get the phone. I want the phone to function as intended and have root and a decent skin from the looks I'm not liking miui maybe i'll change my mind when i get it. Probably use Nova launcher but will want to root it anyway so thanks for your help.
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I've had the most success with the Benzo Treble ROM, but I've heard others talk about Arrow, Havoc and Pixel Experience.
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I'm not liking miui maybe i'll change my mind when i get it.
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You won't! Trust me!
I'm dreaming of a pixel experience pie rom. This would fit my needs the best. I don't really need all the customisation some of the roms offer although I must admit they are great and the ideas behind them are really cool.
The treble roms are pretty stable by now and daily driver ready IMHO but the MiMix2S isn't very popular as it seems so not too many devs out there building for this device. Maybe this will change in the future, until then I'll stick with the benzo and pixel experience roms.
I agree
Miui should die
I don't agree with you both I owned a 1+1 for more than 3 years and flashed a new rom every month or even more often. When I got the Mi Mix 2s I had to use it with miui for 2 weeks because of bootloader unlocking time(this is the most stupid thing I ever encountered). I'm on miui since then because I LOVE the gesture control and mostly it just works. As soon as we got a rom with gcam that supports slowo videos I will flash an aosp based rom too to test it but to say MIUI should die or he will hate it is too much. It's working fine and is full of features.
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I don't agree with you both I owned a 1+1 for more than 3 years and flashed a new rom every month or even more often. When I got the Mi Mix 2s I had to use it with miui for 2 weeks because of bootloader unlocking time(this is the most stupid thing I ever encountered). I'm on miui since then because I LOVE the gesture control and mostly it just works. As soon as we got a rom with gcam that supports slowo videos I will flash an aosp based rom too to test it but to say MIUI should die or he will hate it is too much. It's working fine and is full of features.
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I think it depends on your individual needs and what you expect from a rom.
I too think that miui should die. Xiaomi is producing great devices regarding the hardware. But if you force your customers into using your own ROM (even if it is only the bootloader unlocking time) then this should work perfectly fine and fluid. Read the comments section in the miui forums or here on XDA. It's full of bugs. Every time they release a new version something else is broken.
If I'd like the look of iOS so much I'd get an iPhone. It's neither looking original nor behaving like a finished ROM. For me it felt like a developer version. So many bugs and not even the simplest features worked correctly.
I couldn't care less for navigation gestures or slowmo video (although this is really a nice feature), but I'd like to have working Bluetooth hands free, stable network connections and the possibility to connect to an airports WiFi. None of this worked with miui. At least not for me. And that's the reason I switched ASAP to a GSI. Those were the longest 15 days of my life.
Of course the 8.1 versions worked much better as Pie was just released and many things had to be sorted out. But some of the Devs here did a much better job in developing stable and well functioning roms than the miui team.
So in my opinion MIUI should just die or at least they should reduce the stolen/copied functions and concentrate on the main features and make them perfect.
To me it seems they concentrate more on the looks of their OS than the functionality.
But I don't want to start a debate of principles. If you like it use it, I will never return to this abnormality of an OS.
Whats this about waiting 15 days or 10 days for unlocking bootloader? Going to do some googling about it but figured I'd ask that sounds annoying if its the case.
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Whats this about waiting 15 days or 10 days for unlocking bootloader? Going to do some googling about it but figured I'd ask that sounds annoying if its the case.
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Yes it is and you can't do anything about it. It's Xiaomi's way to prevent their phones from being delivered with malware infested roms as it's too much of a hassle for the shops to unlock and install it.
I hated it too. You're lucky that it's only 15 days and not 720hrs like some have.
I don't understand it because if you get the phone with a not certified or custom ROM from a shop that looks suspicious you could simply install the original Xiaomi firmware without the headache.
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Yes it is and you can't do anything about it. It's Xiaomi's way to prevent their phones from being delivered with malware infested roms as it's too much of a hassle for the shops to unlock and install it.
I hated it too. You're lucky that it's only 15 days and not 720hrs like some have.
I don't understand it because if you get the phone with a not certified or custom ROM from a shop that looks suspicious you could simply install the original Xiaomi firmware without the headache.
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Well that's the ones that know a lot more about phones. I can see how this makes sense well guess I'll have to test out xiaomi's rom for the duration. The phones expected delivery is Friday but only a state away so hoping FedEx will be nice and deliver it a couple days early lol.
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Well that's the ones that know a lot more about phones. I can see how this makes sense well guess I'll have to test out xiaomi's rom for the duration. The phones expected delivery is Friday but only a state away so hoping FedEx will be nice and deliver it a couple days early lol.
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In the meantime you can set up your Xiaomi account as you will need it for unlocking you phone anyway and request the unlock permission.
As soon as you get the device, bind the account to your phone so the time starts counting down immediately. Then it's only 15 grueling days using MIUI but then there's a whole lot of roms which make the device what it should have been from the start. A stable, fast, reliable and good device!
Xiaomi launched poco. It marketed it as a developer friendly device. And then it decided to give the device to some devs.
Who did they give it to? People who had previously worked on Xiaomi phones.
And so it happened. Vasishath, shahah_mik and akhilnarang got it. They definitely deserved it.
But with this Note 5 Pro is utterly f****d. Original development has almost completely stopped. Vasishath and shahah_mik brought up LOS and device trees for RN5 and now all they care about is poco.
Go check AOSIP Pie thread. Till 4th October, Akhilnarang was actively working on Pie for RN5 Pro. Now its over. Only derp kernel updates.
Maybe I'm ignorant but only jhenrique seems to be doing original development. Most others are pumping out xyz rom based on same source with same bugs.
I feel so bad. These devs definitely deserved a great phone but it came at the cost of Note 5 Pro. I don't think we will ever get proper Q roms and leave alone that, I don't think we'll ever get fully stable Pie roms like Oreo roms are stable right now.
RN3 launched with 5.1 and got super stable Nougat and Oreo. We started with Oreo and will remain on super stable Oreo custom roms. Other version roms have low chances of being as stable as Oreo.
I urge some developers to pick up LineageOs for this device. "Super glide butter flow remix" rom is nice but first we should have proper Pie code. Otherwise all roms will have similar bugs.
No offense to anybody.
I'm happy to be corrected.
Besides jhenrique, are there any devs doing Original development for Note 5 Pro?
Firstly what pie bugs are you talking about?
And secondly, we have so many hard working devs here making kernels, recoveries and ROMs. New updates every day, join the telegram group...
in the ever changing competitive market! there are always newer models to replace older ones! but the problem is, now the frequency of happening such is very high!
anyways even before poco! RN5 roms on 8.1 are fruit from same tree and i found many similar bugs after trying 10 different roms!
1. all have whatsapp behaviour issues (low call volume / voice notes screen offs )
2. random ui crashing on derp kernels when trying ending call
3. random restarts when whatsapp tries wakesup screen as you move away your device from ear! (proximity sensor)
4. poor BT Audio and noise
5. switching between 4g/3g (airplane mode on/off) fails to register sims to network (specially on crdroid roms on derp kernel)
6. touchwiz goes non responsive and nothing works accept navbar on , unless you switch off and on screen. (RR and crdroid)
7. Equiliser works ONLY if its activated before music player,
i havent tested custom rom of pie but i am sure i will find many bugs!
so what is my point?
that even if poco wasnt released! these inherited (verson to version of various custom roms) issues were never fixed! and i never expect them to be fixed!
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in the ever changing competitive market! there are always newer models to replace older ones! but the problem is, now the frequency of happening such is very high!
anyways even before poco! RN5 roms on 8.1 are fruit from same tree and i found many similar bugs after trying 10 different roms!
1. all have whatsapp behaviour issues (low call volume / voice notes screen offs )
2. random ui crashing on derp kernels when trying ending call
3. random restarts when whatsapp tries wakesup screen as you move away your device from ear! (proximity sensor)
4. poor BT Audio and noise
5. switching between 4g/3g (airplane mode on/off) fails to register sims to network (specially on crdroid roms on derp kernel)
6. touchwiz goes non responsive and nothing works accept navbar on , unless you switch off and on screen. (RR and crdroid)
7. Equiliser works ONLY if its activated before music player,
i havent tested custom rom of pie but i am sure i will find many bugs!
so what is my point?
that even if poco wasnt released! these inherited (verson to version of various custom roms) issues were never fixed! and i never expect them to be fixed!
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You underestimate the power of good devs. Most of these bugs would have been fixed if major devs had continued to work on our device.
They brought up the tree from scratch and literally fixed so many bugs that users reported. If you don't feel like reading xda threads, go watch rom videos of AOSIP etc on youtube from the march/April month. You'll see that they had so many little and big bugs. All of them were fixed slowly and steadily.
So i dont see your point. Devs and their enthusiasm matters a lot. You wouldn't have a single rom running on your phone if devices trees had not been brought up. And then if they had, you wouldn't be using custom roms because of major bugs that they had in April/May. All the bugs that you report are minor and I'm not even facing a single one of them. Oreo is daily driver material because of the months of original development that was put into it by several devs.
Some of the more famous developers got a Poco device and are now spending time with it.
Some other newcomers have come up and launched ROMs in the last 2 weeks or so. That's a chance. Finally, a roadmap to some change.
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Xiaomi launched poco. It marketed it as a developer friendly device. And then it decided to give the device to some devs.
Who did they give it to? People who had previously worked on Xiaomi phones.
And so it happened. Vasishath, shahah_mik and akhilnarang got it. They definitely deserved it.
But with this Note 5 Pro is utterly f****d. Original development has almost completely stopped. Vasishath and shahah_mik brought up LOS and device trees for RN5 and now all they care about is poco.
Go check AOSIP Pie thread. Till 4th October, Akhilnarang was actively working on Pie for RN5 Pro. Now its over. Only derp kernel updates.
Maybe I'm ignorant but only jhenrique seems to be doing original development. Most others are pumping out xyz rom based on same source with same bugs.
I feel so bad. These devs definitely deserved a great phone but it came at the cost of Note 5 Pro. I don't think we will ever get proper Q roms and leave alone that, I don't think we'll ever get fully stable Pie roms like Oreo roms are stable right now.
RN3 launched with 5.1 and got super stable Nougat and Oreo. We started with Oreo and will remain on super stable Oreo custom roms. Other version roms have low chances of being as stable as Oreo.
I urge some developers to pick up LineageOs for this device. "Super glide butter flow remix" rom is nice but first we should have proper Pie code. Otherwise all roms will have similar bugs.
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You've never had an abandoned device.
Delevoping and modding on our Redmi Note 5 is good enough, just open Redmi 4 Pro's Thread, a 100% valid phone with some high specs (launched 2 years ago), abandoned, why? Redmi Note 4 was released like 1 month later, before Redmi 4 Pro was a best-seller, after few months production of that phone was stopped, no official ROMs with regular support (i can remember like 2/3 developers), now it has two Pie ROMs, it's not enough? Abandoned from Xiaomi with Android 6.0 (it has the same specs of Redmi Note 4), bugs never fixed and zero consideration from main developers (just minor and REALLY GOOD developers helped users with that phone), on Redmi Note 5 you have official Pie ROMs, official LineageOS with weekly update, you will have (i think and i really hope for Xiaomi Image) official Android Pie Update, what else?, i think it's really enough
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Firstly what pie bugs are you talking about?
And secondly, we have so many hard working devs here making kernels, recoveries and ROMs. New updates every day, join the telegram group...
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What telegram group are you talking about? Can u share it? Thank you
Search for...
whyred updates official
And whyredcloud
And hers a few more in the screenshot.
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I need the @iD not the names
sad but true thats whats up in the new phone hierarchy to manny new phones in a shortness of time
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You know that you can search for groups in the telegram app right...(?)
https://t.me/whyredupdates
What are you talking about? There are literally new rom updates everyday on telegram channel
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You've never had an abandoned device.
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like most samsung devices redmi note 5 pro I way better than samsung devices with the exception maybe being the S5 or S3
there's some updates in telegram that never got to xda. telegram is the worst thing ever happened to xda community. tons of useful discussion buried under trollish and useless questions because of the lack of regulations, probably never again to be found. and if the group ever gets deleted, everything would be gone for good.
In telegram, questions are not allways replyed because it seem theres no devs. I think guys are compiling roms and this is all, if it is a bug in a rom, no one is able to solve it when you ask about the problem.
There s only 3 fully working roms i have tested ( LOS 15.1, PIE experience and MIUI ), the rest is a simple patch of these 3 roms and only upgrades are bugs.
I fully agreed with 1emrys1 post.
I'm considering to learn about developing a rom. Anyone know where to start? Because you can really depend on yourself
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there's some updates in telegram that never got to xda. telegram is the worst thing ever happened to xda community. tons of useful discussion buried under trollish and useless questions because of the lack of regulations, probably never again to be found. and if the group ever gets deleted, everything would be gone for good.
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Gotta agree on that
Telegram could be used to obtain feedback for some ROM, kernel or mod quickly, but as it is an instant messaging app, and people really lack any sense or knowledge about proper issue report (info on flashing procedure, current setup, methods to reproduce and logs) it just becomes a complete useless mess where important information is easily lost. Here, at least you can properly search for something and people's tendency to post something might be lower than on IM apps.
I would argue that the development for our device is gone, because there are still devs who are working on it, it might be just slower than usual but not necessarily worse.
On another note, the user base has to be more disciplined and just a bit more educated on how each one of us can contribute to a better development. Posting irrelevant and repetitive crap like fix this pls, this not works, give me links can iritate devs and drive them off, not to make them use another device, but to avoid posting their work with others.
Biggest fail on forums today, and I'm starting to see that all around XDA, is lack of respect for another user/dev/modder/contributor. People do not use the search function, which is the first and most important rule here, do not read the OP and features/bugs section, do not post proper issue report, and demand this or that, and the worst thing is when you point a finger at them and say - you are wrong that's not the way we do things here, they either don't (or pretend) understand and come back at you with insults behaving like they own this place.
EDIT: And there we go, just as I've posted this, someone made a thread in development section asking for kernAl with some features. Just the other day, a dude made a thread in the development section about Arnova's GCam (there is already "official/main" one in Themes and Apps) saying that this works on his device and something else doesn't etc.
I mean, I understand, not everyone has the knowledge about everything, but come one if you come to know about XDA you need to be at least informed about basics.
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.
Yeah, I was on Android from day one and had been flashing the old windows phone before that. I've stopped installing roms on the last few phones however because I perceive them as worse than the stock software. I came here from a 6T which had a fair few ROMs but none that had the fingerprint sensor working correctly. I want that fingerprint sensor. There are other things but that's the idea, I used to see roms as a proposition where I gave up a few things but gained more than I lost. Now I don't see myself gaining much of anything that I'm not getting with a quick trip into Magisk with everything still working, but I do see things like that lost fingerprint sensor. It's kind of sad to me in a way because it was a bit like a hobby.
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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.
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I agree with you. I haven't rooted my past 4 (6, 6p, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl) probably bc they all ran "pure Google."
I do also have a note 9 att variant and I wanted to root and install custom on that device the 2nd day in.
But to have options is always a good thing. Keep it up devs!!!
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I can't get excited because I tried to figure out what features this rom has that would entice me to get into unlocking/etc and I can't find any sort of place where they actually tell you why you should install their mod. Their website still lists g+, to give an idea of how good their user communication is.
Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom
With magisk and Xposed, ROMs just aren't as necessary to me as they used to be, especially now that Google has made a good bit of functionality Pixel-only that isn't always replicated as well in ROMs.
There are still plenty of folks looking forward to them though, so this is definitely good news!
I stopped using custom roms when Marshmallow came out.
But I still use EX for the kernel..
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jmcandrews83 said:
Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom
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Yes, there's a build prop mod that pretty well known and works on any phone. Unfortunately you need an unlocked bootloader and root so no OTAs and you'll have to keep magisk updated to keep safety net working (it gets updated pretty often)
Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.
I can totally understand why people feel there isn't a need for root access or custom ROMs anymore. Stock has certainly improved a lot. I find it useful for a few things, though:
Limiting battery charge to 80% so it prolongs the life of my battery. It's important in a world where you can no longer change batteries with ease.
Swapping my back button on the nav bar to the right side
De-Googling my phone, i.e. installing LineageOS without GApps.
Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.
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Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.
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Hey, there! If you're replying to me, I'm sorry if I mislsed you. I didn't quote anyone because I was just referring to the general discussion from everyone.
Archangel said:
Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.
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Same here bro ...i love more options and features cuz then it feels like i have 3 different phones in 1 lmao
Stock is getting better but still a little boring for me
I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a
Looks like they released a release candidate.
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=bonito
Wickidmasshole said:
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I would think that would be the case - especially given the massive availability in North America alone. (I had a Galaxy Nexus and ran DU on it starting with Marshmallow and through Nougat - DU on a Pixel 3a XL would be - literally - Old Home Week and a good thing.) The ONLY reason I'm not running DU *now* is that I left the GNex for the Galaxy S7 Snapdragon - and not long after, the GNex croaked - it's now a paperweight.
If anything, the Pixel could be bigger than the Nexus line *ever* got to be - here is why:
1. First off, it can go to any carrier in North America - it's not restricted to Verizon Wireless.
2. Wide retail availablility - online my foot! I don't HATE online - I just prefer retail for things like phones (and that is despite being in the front yard of Amazon HQ2). And that is just the availability end.
3. Sane pricing - even, if not especially, in retail. ($479USD - as I stated before, that is the 3a XL - *half* the price of the S10e.) The S10e is pricier than the Note 9 - which is bad enough; to have the 3a XL undercut the same S10e by that much? Why would - or should- I buy an S10e? (And I don't hate the S10e - before the 3a and 3a XL came along, I was seriously considering the S10e, and I had actually seen it in retail and gotten some hands-on time with one - I haven't been able to do that with the 3a XL yet.)
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I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a
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The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.
lazycow said:
The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.
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So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?
jmtjr278 said:
So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?
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I suspect the XL will get more support. But I don't know enough about either device to be sure how development will progress.