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Andorid Lollipop!!

Hi guys! I already asked this question but....why a smartphone as S PLUS received Android lollipop and Kernel 3.4.105 and the S advance is stop to KitKat and kernel 3.0.101? Thi our smartphone has absolutely no developer able to do it?:crying::crying:

giovibob said:
Hi guys! I already asked this question but....why a smartphone as S PLUS received Android lollipop and Kernel 3.4.105 and the S advance is stop to KitKat and kernel 3.0.101? Thi our smartphone has absolutely no developer able to do it?:crying::crying:
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bcz S plus has qualcomm snapdragon Soc (easily available sources ) and our crap has novathor which has no source ...so don't expect any new update for our device...even present source builds are not bug free for i9070 .
this thing made clear many times by many devs
so don't create new thread for this thye of Qs...we have Q&A thread plus search option.

This is amazing news. Although, I'm not sure whether this is going to affect our device or not. It's not that the devs are unable to pull this off, I think it's more of a matter of the practical aspect since most people follow the natural course and update their dated hardware. Nonetheless we can just hope that our device is not forgotten.

Team Canjica not give more support for janice, so no lollipop for S Advance
Janice sources are horrible, could compile lollipop, but with many bugs

uncreator said:
This is amazing news. Although, I'm not sure whether this is going to affect our device or not. It's not that the devs are unable to pull this off, I think it's more of a matter of the practical aspect since most people follow the natural course and update their dated hardware. Nonetheless we can just hope that our device is not forgotten.
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It's sad to say but it's already forgotten

I say too that our janice is forgotten...But remember this: never say never, although i think that janice can't run lollipop.We already experience lags on jb, cm.If we had 1gb ram,then was other story...but still hard to build lollipop without sources.
We won't get more performance using lollipop, we will get a slow device.
Why you really wants lollipop? Just for the look, isn't it? You can make a theme like that and that's it.
I know that is not allowed,but if anyone need that novathor sources which chinese guy posted on xda few months ago and know how to adapt them for lollipop (if is possible) tell me...i still have them in my pc and I'll never delete them.
What is the rom which is trully fast and smooth ? The answer is GIINGERBREAD. Yeah, it is outdated, but consume less ram, and that we need, free ram.

Force said:
What is the rom which is trully fast and smooth ? The answer is GIINGERBREAD. Yeah, it is outdated, but consume less ram, and that we need, free ram.
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Have you tried Vanir? I use it for like 6 months now and don't even think about anythink else. Fast, no fancy colorful stuff jumping at me from every menu, good battery life, what more can you want?
In a day or two I'll also put here the kernel I use with Vanir along with my new governor, if you're interested.

mkaluza said:
Have you tried Vanir? I use it for like 6 months now and don't even think about anythink else. Fast, no fancy colorful stuff jumping at me from every menu, good battery life, what more can you want?
In a day or two I'll also put here the kernel I use with Vanir along with my new governor, if you're interested.
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I'm using first or second version of Vanir and I'm satisfied and i never updated. I installed many apps and became little slow. Gingerbread still better for ram management i think.
Why i use vanir ? Because i see that on this rom the camcorder isn't so darker like other roms, at least for me (after changing exposure). Although i record videos rarely, when i want to do it i don't want darker videos...
I'm interested in your kernel, and i think not just me
PS: i use just vanir and sami os

Some questions before getting the u11 life android one version

Hi there,
i´m thinking of getting the u11 life here in germany and its only available as android one version. So now i have some questions to people which already own the u11 life (android one version).
1. Is HTC taking their promise serious and its getting monthly security updates very fast? (i know its just on the market for 2,5 months but at least one update should be there)
2. Is everything working (hardware related) like it does with international version (like dt2w, sqeeze and so on)?
3. Is it possible to use the custom roms and kernels here from XDA or are those only for american (sense) version?
I hope someone could answer those questions and helping me to decide if i get the u11 life or not. Thank you!

saturday_night said:
Hi there,
i´m thinking of getting the u11 life here in germany and its only available as android one version. So now i have some questions to people which already own the u11 life (android one version).
1. Is HTC taking their promise serious and its getting monthly security updates very fast? (i know its just on the market for 2,5 months but at least one update should be there)
2. Is everything working (hardware related) like it does with international version (like dt2w, sqeeze and so on)?
3. Is it possible to use the custom roms and kernels here from XDA or are those only for international versions?
I hope someone could answer those questions and helping me to decide if i get the u11 life or not. Thank you!
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Had mine less than a week, but here it goes. The international version is the one with Android One and the one you buy i Germany is therefore the international version. The other one with Sense is only available i North America.
When i started my phone, it downloaded and installed the latest update, from december. Squeeze works, but i'm not that fond of it, but that's me. Can't remember reading about dt2w, never used it probably never will, the fingerprint makes it kind of obsolete.
I still waiting for a reliable method to root my phone (no twrp available), at least i have unlocked the bootloader.

saturday_night said:
Hi there,
i´m thinking of getting the u11 life here in germany and its only available as android one version. So now i have some questions to people which already own the u11 life (android one version).
1. Is HTC taking their promise serious and its getting monthly security updates very fast? (i know its just on the market for 2,5 months but at least one update should be there)
2. Is everything working (hardware related) like it does with international version (like dt2w, sqeeze and so on)?
3. Is it possible to use the custom roms and kernels here from XDA or are those only for international versions?
I hope someone could answer those questions and helping me to decide if i get the u11 life or not. Thank you!
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I have the Phone since some weeks and here is some help.
1) My phone came with Android 8.0 November Security Update and after i connected it to Wifi it had the Dezember Security Update. So far on January there is nothing.
2) "Squeeze" or Edge Sense works as expected. Although i also don't use it often. I never saw or heard anything about DT2W with the Android One version.
EDIT: HTC’s USonic is also available. And you can unlock the phone with FingerPrint on Home Button (probably the closest thing to DT2W).
3) I haven't tried yet but there seems to be already a Kernel available without mentioning any special version. See https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11-life/development/kernel-cleanslate-v1-0-0-oreo-sense-t3724725.
I'm very happy with the Phone, The build quality is good (still Moto Play Z feels superior), the battery lasts 1-2 days. Don't get alarmed by the size, the Snapdragon 530 is very efficient and Android Oreo has some improvements also for Apps on Background. The Camera is also very good for the price, still feels a bit slow but the latest HTC Camera App update improved significantly. And the Phone overall feels very fast and smooth and it feels also a high end phone.
Hope you make a good decision.

Well if there is no twrp available i think nobody can tell if the kernels and roms are working on the android one version. But someone with android one version could work together with the dev of twrp for sense version, he asked several times for someone with android one version to help him making twrp+root for android one version. But it seems nobody is intrested in doing something to gain twrp and root access. If i get the u11 life end of february this will change haha.

saturday_night said:
Well if there is no twrp available i think nobody can tell if the kernels and roms are working on the android one version. But someone with android one version could work together with the dev of twrp for sense version, he asked several times for someone with android one version to help him making twrp+root for android one version. But it seems nobody is intrested in doing something to gain twrp and root access. If i get the u11 life end of february this will change haha.
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for me, i'm just want root. images not so much, i kind of like aosp. unfortunately i'm not a dev, just an advanced user.

street_dog said:
for me, i'm just want root. images not so much, i kind of like aosp. unfortunately i'm not a dev, just an advanced user.
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if you are an advanced user you know you need twrp for getting root. And you only need to copy some files from your device and send them to the dev he will do the work for you. I know there is a way to gain root with magisk without twrp (patch boot img on pc and flash it from pc) but thats a bad way espacialy when there is an update each month. And you could get additional features if using custom kernels. And for ota you only need the stock kernel+recovery as a backup and an app like flashify.

Well, if i can help with extraction of some files and to send them over to someone who would know what to do with them. I most certainly would, but i would need some assistance in which files and then again, someone who would want them to work with.

Hello,
root is available as patched_boot.img for magisk. You can flash in download mode using fastboot.
The update works in the background on Android one version. It is there are two mirrored partitions and the update gets installed on the not running partition. To run updates it is necessary to install original boot.img first. There is no recovery partition.
Dt2w is not available for Android one.
You can find the patched boot here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3706652
The custom kernel is only for sense Rom.
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MC_Ohr said:
Hello,
root is available as patched_boot.img for magisk. You can flash in download mode using fastboot.
The update works in the background on Android one version. It is there are two mirrored partitions and the update gets installed on the not running partition. To run updates it is necessary to install original boot.img first. There is no recovery partition.
Dt2w is not available for Android one.
You can find the patched boot here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3706652
The custom kernel is only for sense Rom.
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No recovery partition?!? Where is the stock recovery than or is there no stock recovery at all?
A BIG Thank You to everybody who posted here, you made my decision much easier and i think i will get the u11 life next month.

Using htc u11 life for a week (buy from germany tho). No need dt2w. You can wake and sleep your phone with squeze

I'm also thinking of picking up the A1 U11 Life. How have they been keeping up on the security updates? Did they put out a January update?

trwrt said:
I'm also thinking of picking up the A1 U11 Life. How have they been keeping up on the security updates? Did they put out a January update?
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I don't know about the a1 version but for EU Android one version they put out security updates every month. I'm on January patch.
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HI,
So an ex nexus 5x owner. Let me try and answer some of ur questions
1. Security updates yes but I also wanted them to do software updates. A nokia non android one phone just got 8.1. When I gave up my nexus 5x in December I was on 8.1. So dissapointed in that sense. There is a nokia 7+ coming out which looks great and is android one. Have a look at that. I contacted HTC and they didnt wanna know re: schedule updates
2. Hardware is good. Overall its a great phone, never misses a beat, design is outdated though, lovely screen, I have the 4 gig version
3. Already been slated here for asking for a bit more involvement from the dev community. Those things may be available, but few and far between. Ahhhh, i miss my 5x
saturday_night said:
Hi there,
i´m thinking of getting the u11 life here in germany and its only available as android one version. So now i have some questions to people which already own the u11 life (android one version).
1. Is HTC taking their promise serious and its getting monthly security updates very fast? (i know its just on the market for 2,5 months but at least one update should be there)
2. Is everything working (hardware related) like it does with international version (like dt2w, sqeeze and so on)?
3. Is it possible to use the custom roms and kernels here from XDA or are those only for american (sense) version?
I hope someone could answer those questions and helping me to decide if i get the u11 life or not. Thank you!
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moghm said:
HI,
So an ex nexus 5x owner. Let me try and answer some of ur questions
1. Security updates yes but I also wanted them to do software updates. A nokia non android one phone just got 8.1. When I gave up my nexus 5x in December I was on 8.1. So dissapointed in that sense. There is a nokia 7+ coming out which looks great and is android one. Have a look at that. I contacted HTC and they didnt wanna know re: schedule updates
2. Hardware is good. Overall its a great phone, never misses a beat, design is outdated though, lovely screen, I have the 4 gig version
3. Already been slated here for asking for a bit more involvement from the dev community. Those things may be available, but few and far between. Ahhhh, i miss my 5x
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Haha thanks for your opinion, but this thread was a month or so ago and next week i will get the u11 life. Last week i was able to test it for an hour and the most important thing for me is that i can use a phone with one hand and my fingers dont hurt after an hour of using it with one hand. The u11 life is able to fill that perfectly. You dont need any development if you have the android one version and the differences between 8.0 and 8.1 are very small so it doesnt realy matter if you have 8.0 or 8.1. Security updates are much more important than small version updates. And the design is also personal taste, i dont like those rounded corner displays, i dont like to have a display without brezels that is so big that you cant use it with just one hand and not be able to reach every corner of the display. I would love to have an even smaller device like the m7 was 4,7 inch screen and full hd but you cant get it, m7 was the only android device ever with that small screen size and full hd display. Also i love the edge sqeezing feature its brilliant (as u can see google copied it for their devices) HTC was and is the only company that brings innovations that last for years and get copied by other companys. I was involved in android development for years for so many different devices (mainly HTC and Sony) but there is nearly no device on the market which has 100% functionality with a custom rom (yeah i know you get additional features with a custom rom but there is allways a little - for every +). So the promise of 3 years main version updates and monthly security updates for a device which is perfect for my personal taste from hardware side makes it just the perfect device for me at the moment. And belive me i had a lot of different devices in the last 3 years and allways went back to my m7. That wasnt an easy decission for me haha

I'm wondering if anyone would mind commenting further on the camera? The reviews I've read have varied quite a bit. I don't need perfection but being able to take decent pics in low light is pretty important.
thanks

AsItLies said:
I'm wondering if anyone would mind commenting further on the camera? The reviews I've read have varied quite a bit. I don't need perfection but being able to take decent pics in low light is pretty important.
thanks
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If you have good light the cameras are very good, cant say something to low light or night picutres until end of next week.

AsItLies said:
I'm wondering if anyone would mind commenting further on the camera? The reviews I've read have varied quite a bit. I don't need perfection but being able to take decent pics in low light is pretty important.
thanks
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My camera no longer works after two months just crashes now. Even with Google camera ports. I guess the hardware is messed up? Haven't dropped the phone though..

dpryor88 said:
My camera no longer works after two months just crashes now. Even with Google camera ports. I guess the hardware is messed up? Haven't dropped the phone though..
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Wow, that really sucks. One of the big reasons to have a phone, for me anyway, is to always have a decent camera with you, just in case.
Did you contact HTC? Would be interested in how they respond?

AsItLies said:
Wow, that really sucks. One of the big reasons to have a phone, for me anyway, is to always have a decent camera with you, just in case.
Did you contact HTC? Would be interested in how they respond?
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I doubt they'll help since the phone is rooted. But one day the camera worked, the next it doesn't function... I didn't do any changes or updates either... Just stopped working :/

dpryor88 said:
I doubt they'll help since the phone is rooted. But one day the camera worked, the next it doesn't function... I didn't do any changes or updates either... Just stopped working :/
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Just ask them, if they tell you to send it in unroot it and do so. Usually if its a hardware damage they dont care if the bootloader is unlocked or a rooted system. When the m7 had the well known camera problem (purple pictures) they didnt care about unlocked or rooted, even with custom roms installed they switched the camera module without any problems. If you think it might be a software problem, just reflash system (if on sense version) or wait for next update unroot and update and see if its gone.

Will xiaomi mi mix 2 roms work on 2s?

I haven't gotten my phone yet ordered it Saturday shipped today so 3 weeks I wait. As I wait I was wondering if the roms that are available on the 2 would work for the 2S and vice versa? (I have the 2s coming) I heard mostly same hardware just different cameras and wireless charging not sure much more has changed. Thanks for your input can't wait to root this phone and use it daily

No they wont work. However most of the project treble Roms work for our phone

Nope - use the available MiMix2s ROMS

Thanks to both of you I'll look into Project Treble Roms when I get the phone. I want the phone to function as intended and have root and a decent skin from the looks I'm not liking miui maybe i'll change my mind when i get it. Probably use Nova launcher but will want to root it anyway so thanks for your help.

spriteboost said:
Thanks to both of you I'll look into Project Treble Roms when I get the phone. I want the phone to function as intended and have root and a decent skin from the looks I'm not liking miui maybe i'll change my mind when i get it. Probably use Nova launcher but will want to root it anyway so thanks for your help.
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I've had the most success with the Benzo Treble ROM, but I've heard others talk about Arrow, Havoc and Pixel Experience.

spriteboost said:
I'm not liking miui maybe i'll change my mind when i get it.
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You won't! Trust me!
I'm dreaming of a pixel experience pie rom. This would fit my needs the best. I don't really need all the customisation some of the roms offer although I must admit they are great and the ideas behind them are really cool.
The treble roms are pretty stable by now and daily driver ready IMHO but the MiMix2S isn't very popular as it seems so not too many devs out there building for this device. Maybe this will change in the future, until then I'll stick with the benzo and pixel experience roms.

I agree
Miui should die

I don't agree with you both I owned a 1+1 for more than 3 years and flashed a new rom every month or even more often. When I got the Mi Mix 2s I had to use it with miui for 2 weeks because of bootloader unlocking time(this is the most stupid thing I ever encountered). I'm on miui since then because I LOVE the gesture control and mostly it just works. As soon as we got a rom with gcam that supports slowo videos I will flash an aosp based rom too to test it but to say MIUI should die or he will hate it is too much. It's working fine and is full of features.

Flatric said:
I don't agree with you both I owned a 1+1 for more than 3 years and flashed a new rom every month or even more often. When I got the Mi Mix 2s I had to use it with miui for 2 weeks because of bootloader unlocking time(this is the most stupid thing I ever encountered). I'm on miui since then because I LOVE the gesture control and mostly it just works. As soon as we got a rom with gcam that supports slowo videos I will flash an aosp based rom too to test it but to say MIUI should die or he will hate it is too much. It's working fine and is full of features.
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I think it depends on your individual needs and what you expect from a rom.
I too think that miui should die. Xiaomi is producing great devices regarding the hardware. But if you force your customers into using your own ROM (even if it is only the bootloader unlocking time) then this should work perfectly fine and fluid. Read the comments section in the miui forums or here on XDA. It's full of bugs. Every time they release a new version something else is broken.
If I'd like the look of iOS so much I'd get an iPhone. It's neither looking original nor behaving like a finished ROM. For me it felt like a developer version. So many bugs and not even the simplest features worked correctly.
I couldn't care less for navigation gestures or slowmo video (although this is really a nice feature), but I'd like to have working Bluetooth hands free, stable network connections and the possibility to connect to an airports WiFi. None of this worked with miui. At least not for me. And that's the reason I switched ASAP to a GSI. Those were the longest 15 days of my life.
Of course the 8.1 versions worked much better as Pie was just released and many things had to be sorted out. But some of the Devs here did a much better job in developing stable and well functioning roms than the miui team.
So in my opinion MIUI should just die or at least they should reduce the stolen/copied functions and concentrate on the main features and make them perfect.
To me it seems they concentrate more on the looks of their OS than the functionality.
But I don't want to start a debate of principles. If you like it use it, I will never return to this abnormality of an OS.

Whats this about waiting 15 days or 10 days for unlocking bootloader? Going to do some googling about it but figured I'd ask that sounds annoying if its the case.

spriteboost said:
Whats this about waiting 15 days or 10 days for unlocking bootloader? Going to do some googling about it but figured I'd ask that sounds annoying if its the case.
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Yes it is and you can't do anything about it. It's Xiaomi's way to prevent their phones from being delivered with malware infested roms as it's too much of a hassle for the shops to unlock and install it.
I hated it too. You're lucky that it's only 15 days and not 720hrs like some have.
I don't understand it because if you get the phone with a not certified or custom ROM from a shop that looks suspicious you could simply install the original Xiaomi firmware without the headache.

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Yes it is and you can't do anything about it. It's Xiaomi's way to prevent their phones from being delivered with malware infested roms as it's too much of a hassle for the shops to unlock and install it.
I hated it too. You're lucky that it's only 15 days and not 720hrs like some have.
I don't understand it because if you get the phone with a not certified or custom ROM from a shop that looks suspicious you could simply install the original Xiaomi firmware without the headache.
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Well that's the ones that know a lot more about phones. I can see how this makes sense well guess I'll have to test out xiaomi's rom for the duration. The phones expected delivery is Friday but only a state away so hoping FedEx will be nice and deliver it a couple days early lol.

spriteboost said:
Well that's the ones that know a lot more about phones. I can see how this makes sense well guess I'll have to test out xiaomi's rom for the duration. The phones expected delivery is Friday but only a state away so hoping FedEx will be nice and deliver it a couple days early lol.
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In the meantime you can set up your Xiaomi account as you will need it for unlocking you phone anyway and request the unlock permission.
As soon as you get the device, bind the account to your phone so the time starts counting down immediately. Then it's only 15 grueling days using MIUI but then there's a whole lot of roms which make the device what it should have been from the start. A stable, fast, reliable and good device!

Best and most stable ROM with features working beyond 7.1.2?

Im on a 7.1.2 ROM and its getting real buggy so its time I wipe and switch to a new ROM, preferably newer than 7.1.2
Look, I understand the outdated "test and see which is best" but my phone is for my job and I work all day so I can't be with a buggy phone and be testing, wiping, etc. every day/hours; I need a working phone and stable features. Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
* Bluetooth hands free MUST work.
* GPS must work
* Camera and its flashlight must work
* Data (4G/WiFi) must work
* I need battery life to maintain a stable level; I can't be carrying powerbanks or stuff like that.
* Responsive; The phone is showing its age but it must be able to keep doing simple tasks as fluid as it can
What do you recommend?
Thanks

A new phone.

riahc3 said:
Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
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philash_flash said:
A new phone.
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Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
riahc3 said:
Im on a 7.1.2 ROM and its getting real buggy so its time I wipe and switch to a new ROM, preferably newer than 7.1.2
Look, I understand the outdated "test and see which is best" but my phone is for my job and I work all day so I can't be with a buggy phone and be testing, wiping, etc. every day/hours; I need a working phone and stable features. Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
* Bluetooth hands free MUST work.
* GPS must work
* Camera and its flashlight must work
* Data (4G/WiFi) must work
* I need battery life to maintain a stable level; I can't be carrying powerbanks or stuff like that.
* Responsive; The phone is showing its age but it must be able to keep doing simple tasks as fluid as it can
What do you recommend?
Thanks
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7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead

McAwesomePL said:
Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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I'm currently on 7.1.2. Just wanna ask a few questions to know if it's stable enough for me to get into.
1) I play lotta PUBG. How is gaming performance on this device?
2) How is the audio performance? I use ViperFX.
3) What's the camera quality like?

adityabanerjee1303 said:
I'm currently on 7.1.2. Just wanna ask a few questions to know if it's stable enough for me to get into.
1) I play lotta PUBG. How is gaming performance on this device?
2) How is the audio performance? I use ViperFX.
3) What's the camera quality like?
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1. Don't play PUBG, so I can't really tell, but it should be similar to how it performs on your current ROM I believe.
2. I don't use AudioFX, but both wired and BT audio seems to work just as well as on Oreo (...which for me was a better experience than the one on Nougat).
3. Decent, again, nothing out of the ordinary, just your usual 4 y/o phone custom ROM experience. It's not buggy though, if that's what you're asking

philash_flash said:
A new phone.
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You might want to invest either in new glasses or english reading lessons because you seem not to be able to read.

McAwesomePL said:
Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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Great post. Ill check out the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/rom-posp-v2-0-beta-t3830896

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7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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I just read thru all 79 pages of that ROM; That ROM is alpha at best.
Hotspot not working
GPS is glitchy
Lag
etc.
I need something stable.

riahc3 said:
I just read thru all 79 pages of that ROM; That ROM is alpha at best.
Hotspot not working
GPS is glitchy
Lag
etc.
I need something stable.
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Eh. If you didn't know, this ROM's been the first Pie ROM for bacon. What you've read through is a discussion about it since its very beginning, while the stable version has been released much later. I'm happy with what I'm using - no lags for me, and the GPS works fine. Your call though.
Also, there's no reason to be rude to people in the POSP thread just because some things don't work in your case. Wi-Fi hotspot is pretty much the only noticeable bug at this moment (it does work, just under specific conditions), while for me and the vast majority of people everything else works well. Not to mention that calling others kids is certainly not a mature behavior. Developers are building ROMs when they're free, for free, and sharing them with others, even though it's hard work. Their hard work. It's not a service you pay for that magically allows you to demand whatever you want - if you don't like it, don't use it and go make your own ROM instead of bashing everyone around since you seem to know better.

Honestly it's a bit of a stretch to be asking for a fully featured and stable version of Pie on this phone this early anyway. I'd suggest you just stick to Oreo for the time being anyway. Google changed a bunch of **** for Pie for no good reason and made the whole experience slower, less intuitive and more Apple-like. You missed out on Oreo, so just install a nightly official build of LineageOS 15 or something and enjoy the customised and optimised experience of a mature operating system.

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Honestly it's a bit of a stretch to be asking for a fully featured and stable version of Pie on this phone this early anyway. I'd suggest you just stick to Oreo for the time being anyway. Google changed a bunch of **** for Pie for no good reason and made the whole experience slower, less intuitive and more Apple-like. You missed out on Oreo, so just install a nightly official build of LineageOS 15 or something and enjoy the customised and optimised experience of a mature operating system.
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I neved asked for Pie. At best, you can understand I asked for Oreo (which would have been nice but).

Official LineageOS 15.1
I've been using forked LineageOS 15.1 from microg, with microg built-in, and it's running smooth, no complaints at all. The official version should be better than the Forked version isn't it?

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Still waiting for a true ROM that is made for daily, with no worries about bugs or anything.

Guys here don't seem to understand the meaning of the term "stable" - just because something is free, that doesn't mean i can call my beta stable.
I am currently on Official LOS 15.1 - and it is a pain in the ass to use my phone at the moment. It lags on every user interaction, and if i use it too fast , it restarts. Also BT is buggy, sometimes it just disconnects and doesn't work anymore, even if i restart my phone, i must remove the device from the list and reconnect - which is, in case of connecting to alexa, a doubled pain in the ass because the alexa app laggs ultra hard.
@riahc3 On which Rom are you currently? Did you find a stable before 7.1? From what i recall, i didn't find a stable 6 with working quick charge - which is a requirement, i do not have the time to load my phone about 5 hours in the middle of the day, what i found i must do with each rom i tested.

arrows 9.0 + franco kernel r56 + google camera
seems stable. battery life moderate.

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arrows 9.0 + franco kernel r56 + google camera
seems stable. battery life moderate.
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which google camera version?

Still waiting.

Probably tried 15+ different ROMs over the years of owning my OPO.
Only ROMs I've ever used that worked without issue are Sultanxda's, but because he's just one guy he can't devote a lot of time to it, so it's still being maintained on 7.1.2. I've been using Sultan's ROMs for probably 2+ years now and forgot what a dumpster fire the rest of the ROM community is, and made the mistake of trying the official Lineage 16.0 build. The fact that the ONLY downloads available were a weeks worth of nightly builds should've set off alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it and went ahead because I wanted to try 9.0. Huge mistake. Wifi takes TEN minutes to connect or reconnect to a network, and mobile data only works for the first 5 minutes after booting before dying, forcing you to hard reset every 5 minutes to use mobile data.
At this point, I'm going back to Sultan's ROMs and never looking back. Whenever he decides to drop his OPO project, that'll be the same day I drop my OPO. Actually have a work phone as well that's an iPhone 8 and I wish those things supported third party ROMs, because that turd just gets slower and buggier each passing month, dropped calls, no data, broken wifi, broken video chat, it's like paying a premium to get a hobby phone. I hope to god Microsoft wakes up and comes back to the mobile space, it seems they're the only company on the planet that knows how to put out an OS that actually works, and can properly maintain it with regular updates. In the end I'll probably end up getting a Pixel 2 or something if I want a usable phone.

jm206 said:
Probably tried 15+ different ROMs over the years of owning my OPO
Only ROMs I've ever used that worked without issue are Sultanxda's, but because he's just one guy he can't devote a lot of time to it, so it's still being maintained on 7.1.2. I've been using Sultan's ROMs for probably 2+ years now and forgot what a dumpster fire the rest of the ROM community is, and made the mistake of trying the official Lineage 16.0 build. The fact that the ONLY downloads available were a weeks worth of nightly builds should've set off alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it and went ahead because I wanted to try 9.0. Huge mistake. Wifi takes TEN minutes to connect or reconnect to a network, and mobile data only works for the first 5 minutes after booting before dying, forcing you to hard reset every 5 minutes to use mobile data.
At this point, I'm going back to Sultan's ROMs and never looking back. Whenever he decides to drop his OPO project, that'll be the same day I drop my OPO. Actually have a work phone as well that's an iPhone 8 and I wish those things supported third party ROMs, because that turd just gets slower and buggier each passing month, dropped calls, no data, broken wifi, broken video chat, it's like paying a premium to get a hobby phone. I hope to god Microsoft wakes up and comes back to the mobile space, it seems they're the only company on the planet that knows how to put out an OS that actually works, and can properly maintain it with regular updates. In the end I'll probably end up getting a Pixel 2 or something if I want a usable phone.
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Please do not take it too much to myself, which I will write now.
From your post I conclude that you have excessive requirements for ROMs, which are actually made by amateurs-hobbyists.
Despite the seemingly correct theses, in my opinion your entry is of no value because you were not active in this forum in reporting bugs and patches to the ROM.

Looks like Dirty unicorns incoming...

I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.

Wickidmasshole said:
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.

Yeah, I was on Android from day one and had been flashing the old windows phone before that. I've stopped installing roms on the last few phones however because I perceive them as worse than the stock software. I came here from a 6T which had a fair few ROMs but none that had the fingerprint sensor working correctly. I want that fingerprint sensor. There are other things but that's the idea, I used to see roms as a proposition where I gave up a few things but gained more than I lost. Now I don't see myself gaining much of anything that I'm not getting with a quick trip into Magisk with everything still working, but I do see things like that lost fingerprint sensor. It's kind of sad to me in a way because it was a bit like a hobby.

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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.
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I agree with you. I haven't rooted my past 4 (6, 6p, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl) probably bc they all ran "pure Google."
I do also have a note 9 att variant and I wanted to root and install custom on that device the 2nd day in.
But to have options is always a good thing. Keep it up devs!!!
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I can't get excited because I tried to figure out what features this rom has that would entice me to get into unlocking/etc and I can't find any sort of place where they actually tell you why you should install their mod. Their website still lists g+, to give an idea of how good their user communication is.

Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom

With magisk and Xposed, ROMs just aren't as necessary to me as they used to be, especially now that Google has made a good bit of functionality Pixel-only that isn't always replicated as well in ROMs.
There are still plenty of folks looking forward to them though, so this is definitely good news!

I stopped using custom roms when Marshmallow came out.
But I still use EX for the kernel..
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk

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Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom
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Yes, there's a build prop mod that pretty well known and works on any phone. Unfortunately you need an unlocked bootloader and root so no OTAs and you'll have to keep magisk updated to keep safety net working (it gets updated pretty often)

Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.

I can totally understand why people feel there isn't a need for root access or custom ROMs anymore. Stock has certainly improved a lot. I find it useful for a few things, though:
Limiting battery charge to 80% so it prolongs the life of my battery. It's important in a world where you can no longer change batteries with ease.
Swapping my back button on the nav bar to the right side
De-Googling my phone, i.e. installing LineageOS without GApps.

Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.

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Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.
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Hey, there! If you're replying to me, I'm sorry if I mislsed you. I didn't quote anyone because I was just referring to the general discussion from everyone.

Archangel said:
Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.
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Same here bro ...i love more options and features cuz then it feels like i have 3 different phones in 1 lmao
Stock is getting better but still a little boring for me

I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a

Looks like they released a release candidate.
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=bonito

Wickidmasshole said:
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I would think that would be the case - especially given the massive availability in North America alone. (I had a Galaxy Nexus and ran DU on it starting with Marshmallow and through Nougat - DU on a Pixel 3a XL would be - literally - Old Home Week and a good thing.) The ONLY reason I'm not running DU *now* is that I left the GNex for the Galaxy S7 Snapdragon - and not long after, the GNex croaked - it's now a paperweight.
If anything, the Pixel could be bigger than the Nexus line *ever* got to be - here is why:
1. First off, it can go to any carrier in North America - it's not restricted to Verizon Wireless.
2. Wide retail availablility - online my foot! I don't HATE online - I just prefer retail for things like phones (and that is despite being in the front yard of Amazon HQ2). And that is just the availability end.
3. Sane pricing - even, if not especially, in retail. ($479USD - as I stated before, that is the 3a XL - *half* the price of the S10e.) The S10e is pricier than the Note 9 - which is bad enough; to have the 3a XL undercut the same S10e by that much? Why would - or should- I buy an S10e? (And I don't hate the S10e - before the 3a and 3a XL came along, I was seriously considering the S10e, and I had actually seen it in retail and gotten some hands-on time with one - I haven't been able to do that with the 3a XL yet.)

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I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a
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The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.

lazycow said:
The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.
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So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?

jmtjr278 said:
So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?
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I suspect the XL will get more support. But I don't know enough about either device to be sure how development will progress.