Ive searched the forums, and google, and cant seem to find a clear answer as to what I will lose when I trip the fuse. I just got a new(used) Galaxy S6, and the bloatware is driving me crazy. From what I understand knox is for protecting corporate data, by separating it from your personal data, now that tells me that I would need a app to make use of it, and it just basically isolates accounts/apps from each other, but Ive read I will lose the pay function also, does that include all NFC pay methods, or just samsung?
Also are there custom roms that support using the fingerprint unlock?
Samsung Pay will not work (although I hear Magisk can help with that). Other pay services may or may not work. If your company permits BYOD, they likely won't if Knox is tripped.
Fingerprint functionality is directly related to the kernel; so, if the ROM uses a stock kernel, Fingerprint should work. XtreStoLite, for example, has a working scanner.
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Google "S6 debloat" for ways to disable bloatware without root.
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DarryDoo said:
Samsung Pay will not work (although I hear Magisk can help with that). Other pay services may or may not work. If your company permits BYOD, they likely won't if Knox is tripped.
Fingerprint functionality is directly related to the kernel; so, if the ROM uses a stock kernel, Fingerprint should work. XtreStoLite, for example, has a working scanner.
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Google "S6 debloat" for ways to disable bloatware without root.
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Thank you, this is a personal phone, so I have no employer to worry about.
I know I can 'debloat' without root, but that just hides the icons from my understanding, I want the junk gone.
It disables the apps, which in turn hides the icons. There's zero performance difference between disabling, and removing. They'll take up space in the read-only /system partition, but you'll never, ever use the space if they're removed.
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DarryDoo said:
Samsung Pay will not work (although I hear Magisk can help with that). Other pay services may or may not work. If your company permits BYOD, they likely won't if Knox is tripped.
Fingerprint functionality is directly related to the kernel; so, if the ROM uses a stock kernel, Fingerprint should work. XtreStoLite, for example, has a working scanner.
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DarryDoo said:
It disables the apps, which in turn hides the icons. There's zero performance difference between disabling, and removing. They'll take up space in the read-only /system partition, but you'll never, ever use the space if they're removed.
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All the S6 debloat apps cost money, rooting will do it for free. Thank you though.
Uh, no. There are scripts that use the "pm disable" command via ADB. Totally free.
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piercedfreak said:
All the S6 debloat apps cost money, rooting will do it for free. Thank you though.
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Gatesjunior made a great debloat tool. Here's a link, using the Note 7 as an example. There are safe-to-debloat lists for most phones, including the S6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3444840
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Actually, here's a thread for the S6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3090383
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Just for information: Magisk won't help if your knox is already tripped.
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Hello everyone....My first post here : )
I have an unlocked NOTE3 I guess from SFR France, is it possible to remove their splash screen every time I restart the NOTE?
Thanks
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Hello everyone....My first post here : )
I have an unlocked NOTE3 I guess from SFR France, is it possible to remove their splash screen every time I restart the NOTE?
Thanks
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If your rooted?, then yes.
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Okay...Coming from an IPhone here and reading about all that stuff. I saw other NOTEs with no carrier screen on is there is a difference between mine and the other ones?
Thanks!
MeInQ8 said:
Okay...Coming from an IPhone here and reading about all that stuff. I saw other NOTEs with no carrier screen on is there is a difference between mine and the other ones?
Thanks!
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As already started you must Root your phone.
Is there is an easy steps to do this please?
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Is there is an easy steps to do this please?
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Where are my manners, welcome to the forum.
You may want to read up about the process and also the repercussions of rooting. Have you ever Jailbroken an iPhone? Well rooting is the same thing for Android. It will give you access to the root filesystem and will allow you to edit system files to do stuff like, disable the splash screen on boot among other things. If this is all new to you your in for quite a read.
One thing about rooting the Note 3 is it will trip knox, which in turn will void your warranty. You may be lucky and have a model which can be rooted using RDLV, a method which doesn't trip knox and thus preserves your warranty. Knox is a fairly new thing from Samsung, which is designed to provide "advanced data and privacy protection". It is irreversible(at this point in time) and so you will have to weigh up what is more important, root or warranty.
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Here's a link if your still interested. I'll repeat, this method will void your warranty!!!: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/
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I have never installed xposed before and was wondering if it degraded performance or battery life any. My phone is running GREAT and I would hate to muck it up.
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Anyone? Would I be correct to say that installing xposed on android is like installing dot net on windows. Its just a library that doesn't do anything itself but allows certain programs to run?
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yes you are right in that aspect. it injects itself into the framework.jar and allowed the modules to alter on a system level without the need of custom roms.
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if it degraded performance it would be from the modules effects not xposed.
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yes you are right in that aspect. it injects itself into the framework.jar and allowed the modules to alter on a system level without the need of custom roms.
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if it degraded performance it would be from the modules effects not xposed.
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Thanks.
I'll be flashing xposed this weekend. I live in a verizon dead spot and my phone kills itself searching for signal so I want to try intelli3g and see if it helps with my battery life.
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Thanks.
I'll be flashing xposed this weekend. I live in a verizon dead spot and my phone kills itself searching for signal so I want to try intelli3g and see if it helps with my battery life.
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no prob. it can be a pain dealing with some of the module effects. but at least if you install it you don't have to worry about flashing roms
2 weeks uptime without issues since I rooted.
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hi folks downloaded android pay in the uk via app store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel&hl=en
however says cannot verify if S6 is compatible anyone else having this issue
im not rooted
FIXED: change phone from condensed mode if you have changed it in settings and it will now work
Yea same problem, tho i had suspected because i'm rooted, ive yet to try xposed and rootcloak tho.
jambo89liam said:
Yea same problem, tho i had suspected because i'm rooted, ive yet to try xposed and rootcloak tho.
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Galaxy S5, rooted - Android Pay blocked. What is the latest state of play on workarounds for this?
According to this, android pay will not work on rooted phones
http://www.xda-developers.com/android-pay-no-longer-working-with-systemless-root/
mine is NOT rooted app starts its when adding the card its states it does not recognize if the device is supported
Mine allows me to confirm my card details then says that the authorisation has failed as "Google does not accept cards from all us territories" ?? (Non-rooted)
ok gonna take a shot in the dark with this one, i recon that maybe you must have the banking app installed from participating banks maybe?
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According to this, android pay will not work on rooted phones
http://www.xda-developers.com/android-pay-no-longer-working-with-systemless-root/
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However, this information seems to be about 4 months old.; also, the article mentions a workaround. My question was really aimed at finding out whether there might be any more recent developments of use to UK users, as Android Pay only just launched here.
FIXED: change phone from condensed mode if you have changed it in settings and it will now work
Where is condensed mode setting?
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Settings > Display > Display Scaling
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I was in standard mode switched to condensed and back again now it let's me add a card. I'm Rooted and custom rom
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so does this sound like a fix folks?
Hi when i try to click on the Google icon under settings my setting crashes with the settings has stopped messege. I've tried clicking it on safe mode, cleaned cache but i still have same problem
Is this device rooted? I can provide possible fixes if you have root and less successful ones for non-root.
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Is this device rooted? I can provide possible fixes if you have root and less successful ones for non-root.
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That being said, the non-root procedure would be to try to force stop all Google services. Also, try clearing data on them. Check if the play store has updates for them.
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TechGuyAnthony said:
Is this device rooted? I can provide possible fixes if you have root and less successful ones for non-root.
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That being said, the non-root procedure would be to try to force stop all Google services. Also, try clearing data on them. Check if the play store has updates for them.
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Hi TechGuyAnthony yes it is rooted
Ok. That makes things a bit easier. You could try and get a gapps package like one from
http://opengapps.org
Though you can get one anywhere. I can kinda tell that your home screen is pretty new so I'd think out of the architecture options you have it might be Arm64. But I'd make sure with CPU-Z or something like that.
Once downloaded place on either internal or external storage. Reboot into recovery (custom recovery needed such as, TWRP, CWM, etc) and install the package. As far as I know this is a google apps issue but if it still doesn't work then you are gonna need to factory reset or something.
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Thank u. This is my s4 device with albe95 v8 rom. On variant do i choose stock n download it
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Ok. That makes things a bit easier. You could try and get a gapps package like one from
http://opengapps.org
Though you can get one anywhere. I can kinda tell that your home screen is pretty new so I'd think out of the architecture options you have it might be Arm64. But I'd make sure with CPU-Z or something like that.
Once downloaded place on either internal or external storage. Reboot into recovery (custom recovery needed such as, TWRP, CWM, etc) and install the package. As far as I know this is a google apps issue but if it still doesn't work then you are gonna need to factory reset or something.
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Stock comes with every google app that is usually shipped with Samsung devices. You can choose that if you want but if you really want to squeeze a little extra storage into your phone then go with Mini
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samuhang said:
Thank u. This is my s4 device with albe95 v8 rom. On variant do i choose stock n download it
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Like I said above, Mini is good for getting that little extra space out of your phone without loosing google features (I.e., Play store, YouTube, etc
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hi i've just followed your above mentioned method but unfortunately i'm still having same issue. I think the only option left for me is to do factory reset
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Stock comes with every google app that is usually shipped with Samsung devices. You can choose that if you want but if you really want to squeeze a little extra storage into your phone then go with Mini
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Like I said above, Mini is good for getting that little extra space out of your phone without loosing google features (I.e., Play store, YouTube, etc
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Ya. Either that or get a diff. Custom ROM. It appears the ROM you are using might be broken. Maybe get Cyanogenmod. Lots of cool features and all that stuff.
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Finally after so many attempts i was able to figure it out what was causing my settings to crash whenever i clicked on the Google icon. The main culprit was Google settings app which i happen to click mistaking it for settings app. Went to google settings app's app info which took me to google play services. Cleared its cache and data. Now its working fine. I have also hidden that nasty app so that i dont click it by accident again. ?. Gosh i'll always remain a noob ?
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I was wondering if there was a way to completely restore the device to its original state, with spay and spass working, knox, store letting you use credit cards etc. I imagine not, but I'd like to be sure.
Not e-fuses, which trigger Knox 0x1.
Just flash a stock image with Odin, best you're gonna get.
Also, wrong section.
Once you trip the knox there is absolutely no way to go back, You have tripped the E-Fuse,
the only way is buy a new samsung phone.
In old times when knox used to be software only it could be reverted back using custom kernels
now that it is implemented into hardware there is no way back.
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Move this to QnA section mate
Amar 721 said:
Once you trip the knox there is absolutely no way to go back, You have tripped the E-Fuse,
the only way is buy a new samsung phone.
In old times when knox used to be software only it could be reverted back using custom kernels
now that it is implemented into hardware there is no way back.
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Move this to QnA section mate
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Sorry about the section/category. Is knox responsible for not allowing credit cards to be used on the Samsung store too? Or can I somehow bring that back?
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Sorry about the section/category. Is knox responsible for not allowing credit cards to be used on the Samsung store too? Or can I somehow bring that back?
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Yes, some banks allow access with knox tripped because of the way the security is configured in their apps and some don't.
Once knox is tripped it's game over with most "pay" services.
Nyanners said:
Not e-fuses, which trigger Knox 0x1.
Just flash a stock image with Odin, best you're gonna get.
Also, wrong section.
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post reported to get it moved to the correct section. Thank you.