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hi all i have 12 XDA 2 under the Qtek brand. And i have had stupid amounts of issues with sd cards. i have gone though over 30 of em.
im using the latest firmwares and im usign them for tomtom 3.09 and email attachments.
but i keep getting the SD cards dying. do most users find this normal?
i had a sandisk 256MB with my xda1 and that never gave any problems but were a bit slow
with my xda2 i had a 128MB sandisk card also slow
now i have a kingston 512 elite pro and it's fast and ok
never had a sd card die in any device
but sd cards have limited writes before they die but they have 1000's of writes before that
i have had many SD cards varing from dane elec. Viking. and kingston.
all of these are 512k and not (hi speed) just standard. but i hav e had to send so many back for completly dying. my supplier thinks i eat them or something
odd maybe there is something wrong with your xda so it gives them too much power or something
you mean 512MB right ?
Try Kingston. Mines a 256mb and I haven't had any problems at all. TomTom is fast (both version 3 & 5) and never had any die on me
I've also had a 256MB Kingston, which has been faithful in my XDA 2i.
I thought ok, time to get bigger, so put in a 1GB Toshiba, followed by a 512MB Toshiba.
Both of which are now DEAD!
90 quid, Mwaa... Bye bye!
I tend to agree with RudeGar - I would imagine that the HTC manufacturers didn't want the extra cost of a variable regulator to power the SD card, so if it negotiates a lower voltage, they are not able to supply it...
Linux just reports "block read error" when trying to access a dead card, Windoze hangs!
Anyone found a way around this problem?
Cheers,
Richard.
My 256 meg sd card today passed away, it was a viking I think and it contained my tomtom program and maps. I am glad it didnt happen while travelling as I get lost easily, anyway it has now gone to silicone heaven and I am heartbroken.
Anybody got a any cheap replacements :?:
My Kingston 256 MB is OK too, but now I'm very leery of upgrading to higher capacity... :?
yess it is
oh yes it is
dunno if this will help anyone, but i started with a regular sandisk 128mb, then upgraded to a sandisk ultra II 256, then a kingmax (not kingston!) platinum 512mb, then now a toshiba 1gb. All this on my xda2.
all have been fine except one time where i had a problem with the kingmax platinum, but i suspect that was because i dumped it in a card reader, and did some major transferring in and out of large files (movies, etc). Soon it would show a greatly reduced capacity in both my xda and card reader. Got cnetx's flash format, fixed & formatted it, and now it's fine, though i've since moved it to my digicam, and now use the toshiba 1gb.
I had a Toshiba 512 SD which completely died within a week now I have a Kingston 512 MMC+ had it a month and still going strong and very fast.
sd cards...
Hi all, I've got a maxell 128mb and a Panasonic pro high speed 512mb. My Maxell gave me a bit of a scare when i had my Xda2. All my data was wiped off !!! I inserted the card the one day and it was as empty as the day it was born. Took it back to Dixons and that was not much help. They said i can send it away to try and retrieve my lost data.
I cut my losses and formatted the card on my PC. No probs since
I am now using both cards in my xda2i and i've had no data loss.(touch wood)
I have been using 128 and 256 Ridata cards for 3 years without any problems. Also I have used a 512 Astone for the past 9 months for movies also without incident.
I always keep my spare ones inside a case and don't expose them to direct sunlight. They may be tough critters but you can damage them if they are mistreated.
MMC or SD
I have an XDA IIi (Well the Qtek version of it) and am going to get a memory card in the order of 512Mb for it. There seems theres been a lot of bother been had with the SD cards. Has anyone had any problem eith MMC's? Are there any disadvantages to using MMC cards (speed etc)? Can anyone reccomend a cheap SD card at this size that they have had no problem with? Cheers
Tom
Hello !
Someone got the same problem ?
My
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Raph100,
1.90.401.1 WWE,
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HTC Touch Pro T7272
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corrupted my 8GB Sandisk Ultra II after 3 days of use.
The card could be read INSIDE of my Raphael but not on my PC with different card readers. This would be a minor problem but my Raphael also destroyed randomly files on the card too.
I thought the Micro SDHC Card was defective and send it back.
Now I own a Sandisk 16GB Card and it got also courrupted in like 2 days of use.
Some file from my *Notes* was thrashed and other files followed.
Raphael will try to open the file and then stay busy. After like 20 seconds a message containing "There is not enough memory " pop up... (150MB free ram should be enough to open a 2 kb Notes-file )
Wierd thing -> My *old* Sandisk 6 GB MicroSDHC Card I own for more than half a year now works flawlessly... (Till yet )
Someone here got the same experiences ?
Someone got some advice for me ?
I read something about updated SD sdrivers from member Tucan which he cooked into a german stock rom. Are they any good for me ?
Is there a Rom which should solve my problems ?
Help will be really appreciated !!
im sorry but the new memory you have must be fake, that explains why it works with your old mem, and why after sending it back, the same place sent you another fake.
Oh lord here we go, I just ordered my 8gb MicroSDHC card from newegg since the Fuze will be out soon I hope this isn't a common problem.
I corrupted my 8GB once, but by my own fault. I was in the middle of a transfer and was connected as a hard drive, not through activesync, and hit the power button which disconnected it from the computer. I hooked it up as a hard drive again, went into windows and reformatted the MicroSD... No issues from then on.
ice_coffee said:
im sorry but the new memory you have must be fake, that explains why it works with your old mem, and why after sending it back, the same place sent you another fake.
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I ordered both cards from completly different places, so that is unlikely.
They did work normaly (some days) even on my PC, so I guess it is my Raph which corrupted them
Black93300ZX said:
I corrupted my 8GB once, but by my own fault. I was in the middle of a transfer and was connected as a hard drive, not through activesync, and hit the power button which disconnected it from the computer. I hooked it up as a hard drive again, went into windows and reformatted the MicroSD... No issues from then on.
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I´m always *releasing* my harddrives/cards (on my PC) with the icon in the lower right corner to be save from what you experienced.
Oh man. I have the 16GB Card sitting here and cant use it... I will try it in my old XDA Trion (aka Hermes) for the next days ...
Anyway thanks for your replys !
Someone else has some thoughts about the problem ?
Maybe it has something to do with all the powersaving *features* beeing enabled through -Advanced Config 3.2- and -Diamond Tweak- ?
Well I'm using the same rom as you and was using an 8gb Sandisk card until I got a 16gb Sandisk card and both work flawlessly I'm afraid. I have also applied the power saving tweaks you mention with no ill effect.
using 8gb for about a month now, no problems at all.
Oh, I should mention I've heard many people talk about how there were a lot of Tilts that corrupted MicroSD cards. It was a flaw from the factory, apparently affected a number of them. I wouldn't be surprised of HTC saw some of the same issues with the Fuze, knowing all of the issues they've had already.
My 8gb card works just fine.
For reference, I'm using an A-DATA Class-6 8gb microSD purchased from NewEgg. Cheap, fast, reliable, perfect.
16gb bog standard San Disk Micro SD is working fine at the moment.
Formatted using Panasonic's SD Formatter as I corrupted it before I even put it in the Pro.
my 8GB works fine too
Maybe if everybody posts the brand name of their cards we can determine if this has something to do with the issues.
I remember with my Hermes I had to get a specific brand and produced from a certain plant to not have any issues. I still have my Kingston Micro SD from the Japan plant with no issues.
Using 8Gb and 16Gb of Sandisk with no probs on my Touch Pro.
Hi,
I may be barking up the wrong tree here but are you sure you have not enabled the Encryption setting under Settings. This will encrypt the storage card so it can only be read from the phone. Removing the card and placing in a PC or Laptop would show up as corrupted.
I selected it by mistake once and it corrupted my folder tree and showed garbage.
Not saying this is what is up but is worth looking at.
Personally I have a 16GB SanDisk card in my Touch Pro and it been OK. Been running for about 3 weeks now.
John
maybe the cardreaders from youre PC are not compatible with sdhc.
This is redundand and it may be opinion but im looking into buying a class 6 8gig. Is adata reliable? What company is the best in your opinions for what im looking for. Fastest?
sdlopez83 said:
This is redundand and it may be opinion but im looking into buying a class 6 8gig. Is adata reliable? What company is the best in your opinions for what im looking for. Fastest?
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Sandisk. Always. Forever. For my memory cards at least
FYI...
I put a 16Gb Sandisk in my TP on monday (5 days ago)... not a single problem with it and no corrupted files either.
I was previously using my 4Gb Sandisk card from my old Kaiser... which also worked perfectly fine.
Had a Sandisk 8GB card in mine, no problems. Now have a 16GB Sandisk, no problems.
For me I'll buy Sandisk, and only Sandisk, for my memory cards.
I have the very chip you described in my kaiser (class 6 a-data 8gb) runs without a problem. I've never really had much problems with microsd chips but I gotta admit I got a little worries when this thread poped up not so much about the chip but the phone itself, I've never had a bad chip in my life bought about 20 or so thus far, the a-data does well in terms of speed nothing to be excisted about but for it's class and size it holds its own.
Hi guys. Today I have received my new Sandisk Ultra microSDHC 16GB class 6 and I have tested it with SD Tools and the results surprised me much, it have clearly better reading speed, but the writing Speed like a class 4
Afterthat I tested the cards again with a card reader on my laptop, and the class 6 has ~20MB write/read speed. So the prolems comes from my phone, doesnt it? Im really confused now. Should I order a new card, and which one, class 4 or class 6?
thank you guys in advance
Try testing it in another phone and use SD-Tools again to see if the results are poor too.
As stated in the other thread regarding micro SD's I got myself a cheap 29 euro micro SD from Aldi and I'm getting decent results whilst benching it.
Now, the thing is, it seems every phone has its own way of handling those sd-cards sometimes. I bought the same micro SD as I have for my father, he has a HTC Sensation and it was giving nothing but troubles (the card sometimes wasn't recognized anymore, etc.), we also thought it was his phone.. Then he ordered a ScanDisk 32gb card for his HTC Sensation and all works again.
Connect your phone to the computer and format the micro sdcard to Fat32 with cluster size 32k. Backup your files before that. Also if your phone is rooted, search for SD booster in Market, install it, and change your sdcard cache size to 2048 KB or 4096 KB (whichever gives you better speed). Run SD tools again and check for improvement.
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Thought I would share this awesome deal. Been using for the past 2 days and it's a great product combo for a great price. here's the link:
SanDisk 32 GB SD HC micro SDHC Class 4 Flash Memory Card with Everything But Stromboli (tm) Card Reader
Product Features and Technical Details
Product Features
Available capacities: 2 GB*, 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB, and 32 GB
Seamless speed and performance with microSD/SDHC compatible devices
Class 4 Speed performance rating (based on SD 2.0 Specification)
Tested under the most extreme conditions
Technical Details
Brand Name: SanDisk
Model: 32G_TF_c4_San_R4OREBS
(Gasp) Nice find! I think I might just order one of these tonight!
DAYUM
Thank you! definitely getting one of these babies
yea pretty great deal. the usb card reader makes transferring everything from the old sd card quicker too...you dont have to put it on your pc THEN onto the new card. you just put everything straight from the phone onto the new 32gig card by sticking it into the usb reader. i love you amazon.
I am returning mine. Ordered two, and after the first one failed twice, I didn't bother with the second one. The reader is also clumsy - it's very tight and you have to push the card in much harder than I would usually do with other readers. Keep in mind that most of the time, it's the insertion and removal where cards get damaged, so I wouldn't even use the reader with any other cards.
Second try after formatting with Easeus:
The media is likely to be defective.
26.9 GByte OK (56528894 sectors)
1 KByte DATA LOST (2 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0.5 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 1 sector)
0.5 KByte corrupted (1 sector)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x0000000067b7dbf0
Expected: 0xf765e38b895548f0
Found: 0xff4621f7695548f6
H2testw version 1.3
First try right out the envelope:
The media is likely to be defective.
24.3 GByte OK (51159038 sectors)
1 KByte DATA LOST (2 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
1 KByte corrupted (2 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x0000000386d047e0
Expected: 0xc6184f899a694fe0
Found: 0x2bae31c618694fe0
H2testw version 1.3
WOW great price I thought the 40 bucks I paid was a deal
lost_ said:
I am returning mine. Ordered two, and after the first one failed twice, I didn't bother with the second one. The reader is also clumsy - it's very tight and you have to push the card in much harder than I would usually do with other readers. Keep in mind that most of the time, it's the insertion and removal where cards get damaged, so I wouldn't even use the reader with any other cards.
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I received mine today, so far I've had no issues copying pictures/movies to it from my old 16gb card. Although, I have to agree about the card reader, I couldn't get the 32gb card to fit at all :c the 16gb fit fine though... but eh, my usb cord worked fine for transfering everything
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Unless you run a verify like with h2testw or go through every single file, you can't tell if your copy was good because Windows can be fooled into thinking everything was copied. I don't use any memory stick or card that doesn't pass h2testw.
I have another 32GB SanDisk class 4 that I bought from Amazon but a different seller for $28. That card is good.
Well my movies play fine so...? :| I think you just got unlucky man Dx
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I got mine and used it with the card reader that came with my phone and it worked GREAT! Just ordered a second one for my wife's phone. I didn't know the orange gadget was a card reader, I thought it was a usb thumb drive. I'll try it next.
Just tried the orange card reader...works fine.
Damnn sorry bout the issues lost. I've been using the card for a week with zero issues and put about 13gb onto it using the card reader when I first got it.
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No biggie and not your fault. Stromboli replied that I can send them back for refund (at my cost, but that's the cost to play the game).
h2testw reported that the corruption started occurring at around 24 to 26gb. Depending on your card, if your usage is still below that, you may or may not run into any issue. If you're not familiar with h2testw, it writes a bunch of files, each up to 1GB, then reads them back to verify that each was written correctly. It failed twice on me, so it is a sure sign of a defective card or possibly even fake, not sure which.
FrankyFiggz27 said:
Damnn sorry bout the issues lost. I've been using the card for a week with zero issues and put about 13gb onto it using the card reader when I first got it.
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IronReaver17 said:
Well my movies play fine so...? :| I think you just got unlucky man Dx
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IronReaver17 said:
I received mine today, so far I've had no issues copying pictures/movies to it from my old 16gb card. Although, I have to agree about the card reader, I couldn't get the 32gb card to fit at all :c the 16gb fit fine though... but eh, my usb cord worked fine for transfering everything
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You're both doing it wrong, sure you may be able to get 16GB or less data onto the card...but you should really see if it can handle it's max rated capacity by verifying with h2testw.
Sorry I may be coming off as rude but it's better to catch this problem early before you reach a point where you start corrupting files even though it seems like everything is transferring in fine...I've gone through many fake 32GB cards, and I had to manually verify they were crap before I discovered h2testw.
lost_ said:
No biggie and not your fault. Stromboli replied that I can send them back for refund (at my cost, but that's the cost to play the game).
h2testw reported that the corruption started occurring at around 24 to 26gb. Depending on your card, if your usage is still below that, you may or may not run into any issue. If you're not familiar with h2testw, it writes a bunch of files, each up to 1GB, then reads them back to verify that each was written correctly. It failed twice on me, so it is a sure sign of a defective card or possibly even fake, not sure which.
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+1, they haven't come close to the typical failure point of these "24GB" cards to have them fail, *yet*
Wah I'll have to do that test you guys keep talking about when I get home
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IronReaver17 said:
Wah I'll have to do that test you guys keep talking about when I get home
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Let us know how it goes, remember you're not only helping yourself, but also your peers here on XDA who can make a better purchasing decision with your findings, as well as Lost's. so far 2 cards were duds, maybe those were the only ones, or maybe they all will be bad.
We can't let anyone else get conned if it turns out they all are phonies, and everyone affected should get their money back and report the issue to Amazon (also check and make sure it's not just one 3rd party seller that's doing it through Amazon)
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Let us know how it goes, remember you're not only helping yourself, but also your peers here on XDA who can make a better purchasing decision with your findings, as well as Lost's. so far 2 cards were duds, maybe those were the only ones, or maybe they all will be bad.
We can't let anyone else get conned if it turns out they all are phonies, and everyone affected should get their money back and report the issue to Amazon (also check and make sure it's not just one 3rd party seller that's doing it through Amazon)
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Will do... looks like this test is going to take awhile Dx but if its for the greater good... LOL
Edit: Ok, I did the test. It took about an hour and a half, and that's because it only wrote/verified 17 gigs. I know, I know. I should've formatted the sd card first. But I tested each movie (ten total) and fast-forwarded through them all. They all played fine.
Warning: Only 17204 of 30424 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 3.52 MByte/s
Reading speed: 18.3 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
I don't know if I copied the right info >.< but yeah... I'll format my sd card and do it again if you guys want. I don't really want to though, since that'll take up quite a bit of my time...
**** i didn't even know about that test. I'm gonna be extra careful now and try to stay under 24gb and be extra cautious when i get there
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Will do... looks like this test is going to take awhile Dx but if its for the greater good... LOL
Edit: Ok, I did the test. It took about an hour and a half, and that's because it only wrote/verified 17 gigs. I know, I know. I should've formatted the sd card first. But I tested each movie (ten total) and fast-forwarded through them all. They all played fine.
Warning: Only 17204 of 30424 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 3.52 MByte/s
Reading speed: 18.3 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
I don't know if I copied the right info >.< but yeah... I'll format my sd card and do it again if you guys want. I don't really want to though, since that'll take up quite a bit of my time...
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I'd test it completely formatted/empty myself, just to be sure but hopefully you got a good egg. Sucks it's not making it's class 4 standard, but the read speeds are nice.
FrankyFiggz27 said:
**** i didn't even know about that test. I'm gonna be extra careful now and try to stay under 24gb and be extra cautious when i get there
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Or just run the test with the card empty
Just a heads up, Fry's usually has a Samsung 32GB Class 10 micro sdhc for $34 I believe, I'll try to post a link here later, in case someone is looking for a Class 10 card.
Edit: http://www.frys.com/product/6786695
Looks like it's back on sale, I bought one a month ago, and it's great
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away . . .
damn, those cards at frys look nice. Lol, so if my phonegot wet it would be toast but my sd card would be fine.
First thread, so putting that out in advance.
I download ALOT of music, and since I wanted to sync lots of music from spotify to my phone and bring a few movies for traveling, I bought a Samsung SDXC 64GB class 10 microSD card from amazon on bf.
I've formatted it to fat32 (with guiFormat on windows and android itself), and my atrix will reconize it. But once I start syncing music to it it unmounts it after a variable amount of time.
Has anyone else been able to get a 64GB microsd to work with their atrix?
Thanks!
i dont think it would , since specs says the phone can handle up to 32 gb micro sd card , and never readed someone report about a working 64 gb micro sd card
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On the bionic, they say it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458992&highlight=64gb
Aren't the bionic and atrix 2 the same?
Also, I'm running magic mod jb. I read somewhere that 4.0+ has issues with sdxc, could that be an issue?
Try formatting with a different allocation size to see if it works.
Atrix2 doesn't support NTFS or ex-fat, which some other phones do.
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First thread, so putting that out in advance.
I download ALOT of music, and since I wanted to sync lots of music from spotify to my phone and bring a few movies for traveling, I bought a Samsung SDXC 64GB class 10 microSD card from amazon on bf.
I've formatted it to fat32 (with guiFormat on windows and android itself), and my atrix will reconize it. But once I start syncing music to it it unmounts it after a variable amount of time.
Has anyone else been able to get a 64GB microsd to work with their atrix?
Thanks!
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Yeah class 10 cards are known to have issues with this phone. It really has nothing to do with it being 64GB or not, that is causing it to dissapear or unmount, but the fact that it is a class 10 card. We have had way too many issues with anything higher than a class 6 card in the atrix2. It is also noted that the atrix2 really technically does not support SDcards higher than 32GB, but I have a 64GB card that I use in several of my phones that seems to work ok from time to time, but I only use it to move a file from one of my other phones to the A2 once in a while, so long term I really don't have a lot of info on that.
Ok, that makes sense. Too bad they don't sell class 6 anymore. So I should try to find a class 6 32gb card then instead of 10?
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Ok, that makes sense. Too bad they don't sell class 6 anymore. So I should try to find a class 6 32gb card then instead of 10?
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anything that is class 4 or class 6 is know to work with out issues, no matter the size.
I have 2 class 4 32GB cards that I bought just for this phone that were like 30 USD 6 or 10 months ago, so I am sure you can find a few really cheap now. I know that the whole class 4 or class 6 and the speed thing really tend to turn people off, but I can copy 20GB of music to one card in just over 1 - 1.5 hours, so it is not too bad.
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anything that is class 4 or class 6 is know to work with out issues, no matter the size.
I have 2 class 4 32GB cards that I bought just for this phone that were like 30 USD 6 or 10 months ago, so I am sure you can find a few really cheap now. I know that the whole class 4 or class 6 and the speed thing really tend to turn people off, but I can copy 20GB of music to one card in just over 1 - 1.5 hours, so it is not too bad.
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Thanks a lot Jim! Yeah the 32gb is like $20 on Amazon, so I'll spring for a couple of those. Your right, I guess you really don't need that speed anyway (I can wait to transfer my music).
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Yeah class 10 cards are known to have issues with this phone. It really has nothing to do with it being 64GB or not, that is causing it to dissapear or unmount, but the fact that it is a class 10 card. We have had way too many issues with anything higher than a class 6 card in the atrix2. It is also noted that the atrix2 really technically does not support SDcards higher than 32GB, but I have a 64GB card that I use in several of my phones that seems to work ok from time to time, but I only use it to move a file from one of my other phones to the A2 once in a while, so long term I really don't have a lot of info on that.
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Hmm. I having no problems with a UHS-1 sd card.
QuatroQuatro said:
Ok, that makes sense. Too bad they don't sell class 6 anymore. So I should try to find a class 6 32gb card then instead of 10?
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They do. I just bought a 32gb class six sandik on amazon
By the way my 32 class six is noticeably faster than my 16gb class 4...