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Galaxy S meets Palm Touchstone

I've modded my Galaxy S to work with the Palm Touchstone to wirelessly charge.
As you can see the mod fits quite nicely beneath the battery cover.
If there are people interested in the mod i am going to post a short tutorial how i did it.
w w w. youtube . com/watch?v=9JfJaIWWX-Q
(sorry but i'm not allowed to post lnks yet)

very interesting
but your video didn't show what you put inside the phone to make it charge, without a plug, as seen on most other wireless charger sold in stores
did you open up the phone and soldered something into the PCB ?

Can you upload some pics of how you've managed to fit the touchstone coil into the backplate of the SGS ?
If it's a neat enough job this will be an excellent mod

you could use the method in this instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Samsung-Epic-4g-Inductive-Charger/
an even better mod would be having the backplate/battery case make contact with 2 pins/contacts glued to the back of the phone under battery cover near the camera.
well i'm searching for the palm touchstone now so i can start modding!

jimsey said:
you could use the method in this instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Samsung-Epic-4g-Inductive-Charger/
an even better mod would be having the backplate/battery case make contact with 2 pins/contacts glued to the back of the phone under battery cover near the camera.
well i'm searching for the palm touchstone now so i can start modding!
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There's plenty of touchstones and back plates kicking around on eBay for about 30 notes, now it's just a matter of combining this with the resistor details to make it trigger the desired dock mode when it's placed on there

jimsey said:
you could use the method in this instructable:
w ww . instructables . com/id/Samsung-Epic-4g-Inductive- Charger/
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Well, thats basically what i did, execpt i soldered the "minus" cable to the ground contact pin for the battery.
jimsey said:
an even better mod would be having the backplate/battery case make contact with 2 pins/contacts glued to the back of the phone under battery cover near the camera.
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I'm thinking about doing this, that way I could switch back to the original cover with ease, if I shall ever need the compass

wurzelsepp3 said:
I could switch back to the original cover with ease, if I shall ever need the compass
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Does it affect the compass all the time or only while charging ?

I thought there were magnets in the touchstone backcover but it turns out that its just steel, so compass works when the phone is not on the station.

Well hell this is nice man !

lol, wish i could use my toothbrush charger

Any problems with this mod so far? I like that very much.
But I'm still concerned about blowing up the battery... I don't want to ruin the battery by overcharging it

i guess its just a matter of time when your phone will do a trick like blows uo your battery or even causes short conectivity

here's a smiliar vid ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ga4N_Ih9GE&feature=relmfu

battery cover

i seem to have misplaced my battery door/cover. does anyone know where i can find a replacement? ive searched on motorolas website and it doesnt list it. ive been to best buy and sprint store (they usually have random parts and stuff but they dont even have the triumph there). any help is greatly appreciated

Well, shoot. A quick check of e-bay turned up nothing. With all the supposed returned Triumph units, I would try calling Virgin Mobile directly and ask them to ship you one. They may not even charge you. Good luck.

Bump. I'm using a Tetrax Fixway mount for my car (and like it very much), and would like to have a spare battery cover for regular use. The Fixway requires a small button glued to the battery cover, and while I barely notice it, I'd just like a spare cover.

dcnblues said:
Bump. I'm using a Tetrax Fixway mount for my car (and like it very much), and would like to have a spare battery cover for regular use. The Fixway requires a small button glued to the battery cover, and while I barely notice it, I'd just like a spare cover.
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Why don't you simply buy phone cover and glue magnetic button to the cover and not to the phone itself? Knowing Tetrax (my friend has one), your phone will drop few times and the cover would be a good investment

Just call VM customer service and them the tabs broke, send you a new one no problem.

Qi+NFC+AT&T G3, no hardware hacking.

Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW

My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ

Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).

Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
2SHAYNEZ

Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.

guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.

Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.

pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
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iazybandit said:
Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.

Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?

shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....

I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?

cnewsgrp said:
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA

Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA

skeevydude said:
We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...

scottharris4 said:
Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).

I really starting to think to do what you have done

Replacement battery cover

My back glass broke about 2 weeks after getting my S6 so I ordered a new one from Amazon. It's metal so I'm not certain it will work with wireless charging but aesthetically it always to be far superior. The metal is more durable and it doesn't pick up fingerprints as easily as the original

Do you have a link to this one?

it looks good, is it hard to install? have u tried the Wireless Charger yet?

http://www.amazon.com/BB-Mall-Samsu...ds=metal++battery+cover+for+samsung+galaxy+s6 maybe it is this one.

I have the same question ... how easy is it to replace? what are the tools needed?
the fonts look a little weird though

ch0mch0m said:
I have the same question ... how easy is it to replace? what are the tools needed?
the fonts look a little weird though
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Sorry for the slow response, never got an email. The replacement back linked in FireOnHigh's post is where I got mine. They come with the adhesive already in place. You just need a deck of cards, a heat gun and a guitar pick. I was really liberal when I applied the heat to the back and the phone was not damaged. It's similar to changing the front glass in other devices. Total time was about 15 minutes. I have not yet tried to wireless charge; as soon as I do, I will post my results.

Replied to subscribe. Interested in this as well

Any news on whether this affects wireless charging yet

c_86 said:
Any news on whether this affects wireless charging yet
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If it is actually metal, dont expect NFC or wireless charging to work
It might also affect wifi and mobile signal strength.

Reviews on Amazon say the wireless charging does not work.

Well that sucks. Oh well. Not getting it then unless it works. Need my wireless charging

Signal doesn't appear to be effected by the cover. Still haven't used wireless charging or NFC. I don't see myself ever using wireless charging because I love the convienece (speed) of the fast charger.

NFC hacking for Qi Aftermarket

So, just some questions I'm hoping might be answered here.
I have the BLU Pure XL and I found an aftermarket QI receiver which seems to work; except I suspect that sticker on the back cover is the NFC tag assembly and it blocks Qi.... so one of two questions:
Any idea if it can be removed without too much difficulty? I was thinking of taking a razor blade and trying to shimmy under it, since it's almost certainly just glue. I'd try this on the book cover first, of course.
Second option, is based on the internals of an NFC tag... is it realistic to reposition the tag somehow? I'm sure I could use some speaker wire or something to make the connection to the phone antennae....
Anybody have any suggestions for how a human might go about hacking this together? At the moment I simply have the receiver outside the phone's shell (worth noting that it does indeed fit underneath it though!) and I'm thinking I'll just let the black silicone case I have coming hide the cable. Ideally though I'd like to get the qi working underneath the case.

Not that it would seem anyone cares, but I have found out some helpful information:
1. The receiver does fit under the back cover of the phone
2. The NFC antenna is basically a sticker. Peel carefully and it can be re-applied without issue, if you need to remove it to get rid of interference with the Qi. Best place to hook it up is under the metal contacts - but BE GENTLE.
I'm hoping to figure out if I can get some kind of antenna that fits somewhere and works to have both at the same time - as it stands the only way to retain your capacity for NFC is to have the Qi receiver on the outside of the phone.

Another update: don't do this. It really is not worth the effort - I cooked part of my back cover, so now there's a big blemish there.
Probably my fault for using a cheap universal receiver, but either way the damage is done. Be careful!

TheLastCanadian said:
So, just some questions I'm hoping might be answered here.
I have the BLU Pure XL and I found an aftermarket QI receiver which seems to work; except I suspect that sticker on the back cover is the NFC tag assembly and it blocks Qi.... so one of two questions:
Any idea if it can be removed without too much difficulty? I was thinking of taking a razor blade and trying to shimmy under it, since it's almost certainly just glue. I'd try this on the book cover first, of course.
Second option, is based on the internals of an NFC tag... is it realistic to reposition the tag somehow? I'm sure I could use some speaker wire or something to make the connection to the phone antennae....
Anybody have any suggestions for how a human might go about hacking this together? At the moment I simply have the receiver outside the phone's shell (worth noting that it does indeed fit underneath it though!) and I'm thinking I'll just let the black silicone case I have coming hide the cable. Ideally though I'd like to get the qi working underneath the case.
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which receiver did you go with

"Another update: don't do this. It really is not worth the effort - I cooked part of my back cover, so now there's a big blemish there.
Probably my fault for using a cheap universal receiver, but either way the damage is done. Be careful!"
See my most recent post here.
Anyhow, for the receiver, I went for a generic one off eBay. Cost about $3, and then a $20 qi pad, for the fat lot of good it did me. I don't really think you can get these receivers "professionally" anyway. Exercise caution, I've got a permanent blemish on my back cover now because of it, and things might have been more awkward. I would definitely advise against putting it UNDER the cover, as the only saving grace is I had it externally.

I wish this phone had wireless charging

CCJ22 said:
I wish this phone had wireless charging
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It's not wireless, but I did find these wicked neato adapters on eBay that are basically the micro-usb equivalent of magsafe.
They're $5 CAD a pop, but it's almost as trivial to hook the phone into charge/take it off with these, and they are absolutely safe. Also reversible.
Basically there's a small nib you leave in the phone on a permanent basis (well... removable, obviously, but you get the point) that isn't much more obstructive than a qi receiver anyway, and then there's an adapter that takes any normal micro-usb in and gives it a magnetic snap head to hook onto this nib.
Just eBay "micro-usb magnetic" and it should pop up at around $5 with free shipping.