Google says they provide security updates for "at least" three years after a device is released, which in the case of the Nexus 5, is October 2016, or about a month from now. I believe they dropped Nexus 4 support right at three years. I'm guessing with Nougat being out, that any updates for non-Nougat devices (Nexus 5) are dead. Anyone have any insight on this?
I'm trying to figure out when to go to a custom ROM or buy a new device, and I'm aggravated because there's zero reason for Google to drop security updates for this device.
I may be wrong, but I'm not under the impression that they'll stop security updates. There won't be nougat though.
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Is there no way for [xda] devs to port security updates for the stock ROM for the N5?
They won't supply firmware updates anymore (bootloader, radio). But all the other security features and patches can be forked from the AOSP. As far as I know.
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Is there no way for [xda] devs to port security updates for the stock ROM for the N5?
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They do add the security patches to the custom ROMs.
I'm using Screw'd 7.1.1 on my nexus 5 and it has the Feb ,5th security patch
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Custom nougat roms, sure.
I'm still waiting for nougat to mature, but would love security patches for the stock Marshmellow.
Surely I'm not the only one?
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Just curious, I'm looking between the 2 Roms and loving different parts of them equally.
My biggest concern is when the updates come. Coming from Verizon, and locked bootloaders on my S4 and One, and lack of updates never caused me any of this concern.
If I decide to have CM11 nightlies or PA, will I be waiting for a stable version of, let's say, 5.0? And will I be stuck with buggy Roms? Or what would happen on either ROM with a large upgrade like that via OTA? I've never really had a stock experience coming from Verizon, and when I did on the GNex, there were never any real updates. Anyone whose had VZW feels my pain. So I wouldn't know what happens with a milestone upgrade like a newer version of android, or even 4.3 > 4.4 ...
Or would I be better off waiting on Stock and having the OTA via Google?
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You will have to wait as long as it takes to merge the code and verify nothing is broken with the new code.
CM does nightlies and PA does weekly builds. Stay away from nightlies and stick to more stable versions if you don't want a possibility of a buggy build.
If a new version of Android comes out it will be merged with cm and PA and subsequently be in your hands as soon as possible.
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Pirateghost said:
You will have to wait as long as it takes to merge the code and verify nothing is broken with the new code.
CM does nightlies and PA does weekly builds. Stay away from nightlies and stick to more stable versions if you don't want a possibility of a buggy build.
If a new version of Android comes out it will be merged with cm and PA and subsequently be in your hands as soon as possible.
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So, for example, 5.0 comes out. I'm on CM11 M6, and CM releases a stable build of their 5.0 OS, will my phone upgrade to (CM12) or whatever it may be from CM11? Or will I have to flash it like a new ROM?
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justinisloco said:
So, for example, 5.0 comes out. I'm on CM11 M6, and CM releases a stable build of their 5.0 OS, will my phone upgrade to (CM12) or whatever it may be from CM11? Or will I have to flash it like a new ROM?
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that entirely depends on what changes between versions.
there are many ways to prevent the need to reload all your apps and settings. titanium backup and helium are great options for being able to retain your data.
I cannot speak for CM, but at Paranoid Android we like to prevent the need for doing a full wipe upgrade, but sometimes it is just necessary.
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that entirely depends on what changes between versions.
there are many ways to prevent the need to reload all your apps and settings. titanium backup and helium are great options for being able to retain your data.
I cannot speak for CM, but at Paranoid Android we like to prevent the need for doing a full wipe upgrade, but sometimes it is just necessary.
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Personally, I can't stand the UI of Titanium anymore. I have been using Helium for a while, but lately I've had so many issues restoring either from an SD Backup, after wiping my SD, or failing from a Cloud restore...
In a long story short, I am constantly going back and fourth between the 2 Roms. I love the simplicity and fluidity of PA, but love the customization of CM. I'm on CM at the moment, just flashed it from PA yesterday, I'm just curious if its really worth it to stick with a custom Rom, and lose out of the option of getting the newest OS, or do the Devs get their hand on the newest OS before its actually released to the masses, and usually taken care of beforehand...
Devs get the source code as soon as it is made public. Generally it is within a day or two of the ota rollout, and with the way ota rollouts happen, your favorite rom might have it before you receive the ota
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Hello, is there any aosp L rom with ota updates?
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Err.. What's the real question here?
Google's stock ROM has ota updates. A plain vanilla aosp build doesn't.
Some custom ROMs did have ota updates system on KK, so if you don't see any available yet, it's normal, L's only been out for a short amount of time.
I think he is looking for a developer who releases updates to their aosp ROMs via ota.
I for about a week or two now have been thinking of switching my phone back to stock and update to N Preview 2, since I enrolled for updates for the dev previews. I'm currently running Dirty Unicorns 10.2, the newest stable update and can't decide if I want to try Android N or not. Any help is appreciated.
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Anyone know when will be the first Custom ROM of Android O (8.0)? on Nexus 5? I ask because I want to test the new Android.
The first ROM will come out when Android O fully released in Q3 of 2017. Happy waiting.
Ok. Thanks. ;(
I think hammerhead can not run Android O, because the specifications that have no support.
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aosp will be available soon also for hammerhead i think
here
https://developer.android.com/preview/download.html#flashable-images
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https://developer.android.com/preview/download.html#flashable-images
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that doesnt help lol
???
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What's up man? God, the O is just announced, dev previews are availble only for ARM64 Nexuses and pixels. No way to get it before source code is published. maybe no way to get it at all for arm32. (If android ONE smartphones get O we will also get O)
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What's up man? God, the O is just announced, dev previews are availble only for ARM64 Nexuses and pixels. No way to get it before source code is published. maybe no way to get it at all for arm32. (If android ONE smartphones get O we will also get O)
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They'll get O, they've guaranteed support for 2-3 years so yeah, O update'll arrive to them.
Google IMO will support arm32 because of many devices with this architecture.
Can we build source code from a rom?
The first rom for hammerhead will be released after one or 2 weeks of official release of Android O for supported devices.
Rly? Nice!
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The first rom for hammerhead will be released after one or 2 weeks of official release of Android O for supported devices.
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O'll be released after AOSP code drop, not after release for supported devices (these're 2 seperate dates)
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O'll be released after AOSP code drop, not after release for supported devices (these're 2 seperate dates)
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aosp source get released just a few days after stock release
Please get it at android
banikgames said:
Anyone know when will be the first Custom ROM of Android O (8.0)? on Nexus 5? I ask because I want to test the new Android.
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Sir banikgames, please go to the Android O developer page and register at developer.android.com but it's not custom though.
This is not supported device. Min. Nexus 5X.
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ROMs will come sometime after source is released, no eta on that though. The first ROMs will likely be buggy though, till devs have time to work out the issues.
Although doesn't seems that hammerhead will get android o.. A lots of changes were made in the kernel side which forces the devs to backport all the features to hh kernel, which will be a headache and will take forever..
Link is here.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...-kernel-source-code-2015-moto-x-pure-edition/
Ironic that the Pure Nougat OTA update is nowhere in sight, but hopefully DEVS can use this to incorporate into their ROMS for the community.
WTH... haha...
Any idea when will custom ROMs apply this?
I'm afraid this doesn't bode too well for those waiting for the update. I'll be surprised though if there is an official update. :/ However, glad they released it now so that devs can take advantage of it.
Seems like they give up on the official update and released the source code for the dev community to do it instead...
Go home Motorola, you're drunk.
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Kernel source > Official update
Will this be helpful in developing Nougat ROMs for Moto X Style too? Or Motorola has to release seperate kennel source for the style as well?
I think the article is misleading... The kernel source is for "Clark" but isn't that the Style too, and not just the Pure?
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I think the article is misleading... The kernel source is for "Clark" but isn't that the Style too, and not just the Pure?
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I do believe the codename for both is Clark.
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Link is here.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...-kernel-source-code-2015-moto-x-pure-edition/
Ironic that the Pure Nougat OTA update is nowhere in sight, but hopefully DEVS can use this to incorporate into their ROMS for the community.
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Link to source:
https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/releases/tag/MMI-NPH25.200-15
This is a good news for @invisiblek @Hashbang173
This is really good news. Doesn't say much for LG or former Motorola engineers , since they made the device.
Either way, I rather have the XDA community making an effort and seeing what they can accomplish. Thumbs up LG for releasing your latest foot print...looking forward to what XDA community can accomplish!
To all the naysayers, I'm still using my old HP Touchpad running Kit Kat. Maybe sluggish during updates, but suits my needs and if it ain't broken why fix it! Sorli...
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Link to source:
https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/releases/tag/MMI-NPH25.200-15
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that's leggit
So what does that mean for normal user? Could camera2 api be enabled in the future?
I'm on the Style (XT1572) and finally got the OTA today, is it updating to Nougat right now. Funny thing is that today I was about to accept a deal with my local carrier for a Mate 9 LOL...maybe I should re-consider, btw I'm in Mexico.
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I'm on the Style (XT1572) and finally got the OTA today, is it updating to Nougat right now. Funny thing is that today I was about to accept a deal with my local carrier for a Mate 9 LOL...maybe I should re-consider, btw I'm in Mexico.
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Interesting... Thanks for keeping us in the loop on the rollout. It's been quiet lately on the forums on whether or not the rollout was still happening.
... especially when they had released the kernel source just yesterday. I was paranoid that the rollout stopped completely due to a massive bug / issue just discovered.
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So what does that mean for normal user? Could camera2 api be enabled in the future?
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No, well, probably not... The kernel source is more of interest to developers of ROM's, they can implement the code into things like LineageOS, AICP, RezRemix, etc... and remove the "hybrid" code they have that is Marshmallow and Nougat combined. In theory, it should remedy some of the issues people have on Nougat custom ROMs.
Any idea of witch costum ROM has implemented this?
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Any idea of witch costum ROM has implemented this?
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Lineage. But it's an experimental build. Not daily driver material yet.
DiegoMarinDiego said:
Any idea of witch costum ROM has implemented this?
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Implementing new kernel source can be tricky sometimes, give it a couple weeks, then initial builds implementing it should start rolling out... Be aware that if you have not upgraded to stock Nougat yet, this could cause more problems than it fixes since ROMs will be expecting you to have a Nougat partition table and radios...
I would expect most well maintained ROMs to have it fully implemented within 60 days.