Hi all,
I live in Italy and since I bought Xperia Z3 with Lollipop 5.1.1, I kept receiving message for an update to Android 6 Marshmallow.
I finally decided to give it a try. What I got was nothing too new or exciting, one camera option less (cannot shoot anymore 20 Mp pictures in 16:9, only 4:3 now) and a horrible STAMINA mode.
Now, with Lollipop as standard, Stamina was good.
On Marshmallow, it is visibly different. When Stamina is on, the animations in the various menus, like, say, Notification closing, Applications closing, PIN code insert, lose their typical smoothness. Something that is very frustrating, because it looks like you are shooting with a point and fire game. Everything becomes so fast and not as smooth as without Stamina on. Has everyone experienced the same issue? I could record in a clip the clear differences between the behaviour of Android 6 with Stamina on or off to be more clear.
The stamina mode in Marshmallow is merely a renamed low battery mode from stock Android, there is no actual Stamina mode.
Performance is reduced and animations disabled in low battery mode (aka "Stamina mode").
I'll probably stick with Concept Software.
So there is no way I can activate Stamina and get normal animations like every Android flagship phone has?
At very least, I could stick with DOZE, instead of Stamina, if that works in reducing battery consumption, but I guess I can't remove Stamina with the last Sony update.
I feel like a sort of urgency in turning back to Lollipop 5.1.1 and Stamina. It worked pretty well, but I am kinda of afraid of Flashtool and finding the right .ftf file.
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Now to live up to the thread title.
Non-rooted / all stock / ART.
So here's how my day started: Battery stats seemed odd - Lightflow was accounting for the greatest drain (~30%) an hour or two off the charger. I didn't take notes at this point but the charge was below 90% from a full start.
And then... Camera started crashing on HDR+ shots. It would just hang on "Processing HRD+" after the cam "stopped working" Other modes seemed okay, just HDR+ and specifically the post-shot processing. So I rebooted and ended up with the Fastboot screen! (This may be freakishly weird, but also a good chance that my new Ultra Hybrid case is making volume rocker WAY too sensitive). On reboot same problem so rebooted to Safe Mode & HDR+ was working. Reboot out of Safe Mode and again Fastboot! (again maybe blame the case)
BUT! Out of Safe Mode and I still appear to be in Safe Mode! Almost all of my widgets are gone (Dashclock, Eye in the Sky, clock, Shazam but strangely not Soundhoud) and some apps are off the home screen. Wallpaper has reverted to N5 original! Basically it looks like Safe Mode but without the watermark. But since this isn't really Safe Mode the cam is still crashing on HDR+
The only app I've added recently is Muzei (really nice btw.) which, it turns out did have an issue with ART -- but that's been fixed in a update! And no matter how buggy it might have been I can't see it being the villain in this particular story.
And later in the day battery drain was wacky - After a top-up to full it took 3 hours to hit 35% with only 90 min SOT. No heavy demand apps running & none showing battery stats.
I assume I'll have to do a reset but would feel a lot better about this if I had some idea of just the heck is going on so I can avoid it happening EVER again!
Here's the thing, since I sold my z2 I've been browsing around different manufacturers, but that's not too relevant, just wanting to say I have experience with Sony and stamina mode since I've owned:
Z, Z Ultra, Z2 (some others not from sony) and now Z3.
The thing is that either Stamina is now unusable when compared to what I remember on previous owned Sony phones, or there's something I'm setting up wrong...
First I know that after enabling Stamina, you can add exceptions, basically applications that will still receive notifications while Stamina mode is ON.
On my past Sony phones, this meant instant notifications, as it was expected, I guess, and I was happy with it, as I need to have gmail, calendar and some messaging app always connected.
Now onto Z3.
I see that just turning on Stamina won't let me add exceptions, and that requires extended standby to be ON too.
Ok, I turn it on and it says that it will turn off mobile data and wi-fi, and I'm like wtf how will I get notifications then? Anyway I turn it ON set my usual apps in exceptions list...and this is where the "fun" begins.
It seems like the exceptions list I set simply does not matter as I will not get any notifications if the screen is off. And I mean NO notification whatsoever. If I turn the screen on, they all appear.
So this is not like I am expecting for Stamina mode to work...does Sony really ruined this piece of software like it seems?
How is it that on my other Sony phones Stamina worked as expected: very low standby drain with notifications actually always incoming (only from apps in exceptions)? Vs this thing now, which is basically useless if you want to have some notifications still, with it turned on.
Disable the "data/Wi-Fi off when screen off" toggle, maybe?
Licaon_Kter said:
Disable the "data/Wi-Fi off when screen off" toggle, maybe?
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You cannot have Stamina Mode enabled without turning ON the Extended Standy mode too...which turns off the mobile/wi-fi data. Smart isn't it?
EDIT: To add to the issue, if I enable and then disable the stamina mode, it aparently stops notifications permanently for some apps...what the actual F?
I have it:
*Stamina on
*Active 100%
*Extended off
*Performance limit on
*Watch mode disabled (since extended in disabled)
Why can't you do it?
Licaon_Kter said:
I have it:
*Stamina on
*Active 100%
*Extended off
*Performance limit on
*Watch mode disabled (since extended in disabled)
Why can't you do it?
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Because my phone apparently won't let me.
I CANNOT, repeat, CANNOT let stamina ON without enabling extended standby. It's that simple...this thing sucks
D6603? 5.1.1 ? At least firmwarea .232? Maybe even .264?
Here's a "proof" from .200/.232/.264 at least: https://i.imgur.com/iE1iiLo.png
Licaon_Kter said:
D6603? 5.1.1 ? At least firmwarea .232? Maybe even .264?
Here's a "proof" from .200/.232/.264 at least: https://i.imgur.com/iE1iiLo.png
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Just updated with the stagefright fix build, I see what you set up there, but what is the meaning of stamina mode like that? That is just a performance reducing feature, not Stamina, it I set it up like that.
Just to add to the injury, to some apps that were in the exceptions that did not receive notifications in stamina mode (or extended mode whatevs) I had to clead cache/data for them, to actually receive notifications again AFTER disabling extended batt mode.
I cannot fathom how wrong this thing is, they basically ruined a perfectly working feature of the phone, that I actually liked/used.
Not sure how you want it to turn off the internet when screen off (as the text says it will) yet allow them to work and have notifications on time? Maybe have some at an interval ( as the other switch says) ?
Just because it did it in the old phones does not mean anything.
Oh, do you use any firewall? It needs to be whitelisted too.
In the mean time how much does a full charge hold you anyway? 2 days? Less?
Licaon_Kter said:
Not sure how you want it to turn off the internet when screen off (as the text says it will) yet allow them to work and have notifications on time? Maybe have some at an interval ( as the other switch says) ?
Just because it did it in the old phones does not mean anything.
Oh, do you use any firewall? It needs to be whitelisted too.
In the mean time how much does a full charge hold you anyway? 2 days? Less?
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If it was possible then? Why not anymore? Software regresses on Xperias now? Damn wrong if that's true.
I also thought there must be an interval at which notifications are being checked for whitelisted apps, but If I receive a message on whatsapp at let's say 3 o'clock it will not notify me even after 2 hours. (this happened)
Tried factory reset, firmware update, all that I could, but no go.
No firewall also, clean connection. A full charge gets me trough two days mostly, one and a half if I go insane wiht picture taking and gaming. All in all pretty good battery life, but not that amazing compared to the old Z2.
I think I need to get rid by this OCD of having features that actually work, by flashin the marshmallow concept build, at least that one doesn't have Stamina mode!
Saikyo_San said:
A full charge gets me trough two days mostly, one and a half if I go insane wiht picture taking and gaming.
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That's ok.
Compare Z2 vs Z3, not sure who promised you "better" battery life on the Z3 but they lied.
I have a Sony Xperia Z5 compact. It suffers from overheating when recording video, especially 4K. I'm posting this in the general section because I'd like to know if there is a general way to freeze everything (non-essential).
I try to do what I can to keep the temp down. I make sure I have a full battery charge.
When I'm recording video, I don't really care about anything else the phone is doing so it would be nice if there were a way to freeze everything that's "non-essential". I usually put the phone in airplane mode to try to keep down background tasks (which poll stuff from the internet). Is there a better way?
For example, after a reboot, media storage will use full cpu for several minutes bringing up the temperature.
Sony does have an "ultra stamina" mode but it is slow to activate and deactivation requires a reboot. I also don't really know what it really is doing.
Hi,
I come from sony xperia z3 compact, which had a really cool feature, stamina mode, and what i especially liked about it, is that when it was activated and you locked your phone (screen lock) - it restricted ALL background data, no exceptions. Only when you lighted the screen, it would activate the data. Does anyone know, how can i achieve the same feature with the Samsung S7. Basically all i want is that if i lock my screen, all the background data is truly disabled?
Samsung's equivalent of stamina mode would be the "Power Saving" option, of which there is two tiers("Mid"and "Max"). Background data is restricted by default in both modes, although I think the "Mid" tier still allows it periodically.
Yeah i saw them, thanks for the input, although the MAX setting makes the phone lose its features. I will try the MID setting (i disabled the limiting of cpu and some other stuff, because i want it to function normally when i use it). Maybe theres an app, that will make it work just like i want it. Because the s7 battery should last longer - with sony, wifi off and background data restricted, i sometimes got like 4 days without charging. I am not a 24/7 nose in the screen type of a guy anyways, i mostly call and when neccessary look stuff up on google and read my mails. Would be nice to extend this S7 battery to around 3 days or so with such usage.
Mickovich said:
Yeah i saw them, thanks for the input, although the MAX setting makes the phone lose its features. I will try the MID setting (i disabled the limiting of cpu and some other stuff, because i want it to function normally when i use it). Maybe theres an app, that will make it work just like i want it. Because the s7 battery should last longer - with sony, wifi off and background data restricted, i sometimes got like 4 days without charging. I am not a 24/7 nose in the screen type of a guy anyways, i mostly call and when neccessary look stuff up on google and read my mails. Would be nice to extend this S7 battery to around 3 days or so with such usage.
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You can add *some* apps for use in MAX mode, most notably WhatsApp. Maybe use Tasker to toggle data when the screen turns off?(Would need root though). But yeah, there's only so much you can do for a big AMOLED paired to a power hungry SoC I've never known more than a day and a half's usage though. Perhaps other people have better suggestions.
so far its been 6,5h since last charge, and its on 91% - with the mid power saver mode, cpu limiter disabled, screen res on FHD, screen brightness about 40-45%, wifi off, and gps on high accurancy - it looks somewhat promising. I'll see how long it will last on that charge and proceed from there.
Hello, members!
I updated my sony about month ago to new android version Oreo (Android 8.0) and at first i was happy that Sony made an update, but when i started to work more with this version day to day i found that there are things that i dont like!
First thing with apps and folders
Apps like Facebook and Massenger all the time show @ app that i have notification (number on the app) and when i open it there is not any notification for me! Apps all the time showing me the same number of notifications on app but there is nothing in it.
Started to search it, maybe somewhere it is - but there is nothing! I deleted apps and install it again - but it show me all the time the same!
I am tired with this thing - i know it is small problem but in my day to day work it is seriously.
Second thing - Guys what we can do with high phone temperature ? Phone is overheating sometimes when i using it and i am not playing games! It getting uncomfortable hot!
Third thing - When phone getting low energy (about 30%) it is automaticly turn on battery saver! Of course phone start to go slow. In setting i can turn off battery saver but it still are slow because i am more than sure that battery saver is still on, but in settings it is off! when i plug charger to phone it starts to work Great!
Can we do something with these things?
P.s. I think it is to many problems for Sony mobile - i was using a lot of Sony phones but about now starting to think change Sony to something else...better!
Hi, I have updated to Oreo as well. Not experiencing the overheating issue. I upgraded to this handset from Galaxy S4 i9507 and that one used to get hot. Maybe try disabling some apps after checking what is using the battery. Maybe you have a sneaky app which is using a lot of CPU.
Generally, this version (second version of Oreo) is a bit slower than Nougat, particularly camera operation. I am seriously considering rooting if I can be sure that DRM and camera will be preserved.
Try factory resetting the device, that tends to solve most of the issues after a big update. Also if your Play services version is 11.7.46 make sure to update to 11.9.51 via apkmirror as the former is confirmed to drain battery.
Huberts12 said:
Hello, members!
I updated my sony about month ago to new android version Oreo (Android 8.0) and at first i was happy that Sony made an update, but when i started to work more with this version day to day i found that there are things that i dont like!
First thing with apps and folders
Apps like Facebook and Massenger all the time show @ app that i have notification (number on the app) and when i open it there is not any notification for me! Apps all the time showing me the same number of notifications on app but there is nothing in it.
Started to search it, maybe somewhere it is - but there is nothing! I deleted apps and install it again - but it show me all the time the same!
I am tired with this thing - i know it is small problem but in my day to day work it is seriously.
Second thing - Guys what we can do with high phone temperature ? Phone is overheating sometimes when i using it and i am not playing games! It getting uncomfortable hot!
Third thing - When phone getting low energy (about 30%) it is automaticly turn on battery saver! Of course phone start to go slow. In setting i can turn off battery saver but it still are slow because i am more than sure that battery saver is still on, but in settings it is off! when i plug charger to phone it starts to work Great!
Can we do something with these things?
P.s. I think it is to many problems for Sony mobile - i was using a lot of Sony phones but about now starting to think change Sony to something else...better!
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1. I don't suffer from this issue perhaps try updating your Xperia home launcher
2. The phone does heat up from time to time , all electronics follow the same principle
Electronics will heat up
3. Stamina mode is actually disabled just as it says on the settings, the reason the phone is slow because there is not enough power to be supplied as the demand for performance increases
When power is low your phone struggles to deliver optimal power to performance ratio
To make sure that the phone able to last throughout the day so that you don't miss any calls ,
Performance is decreased in favor for battery runtime