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Despite being careful, my screen is increasingly getting scratched. The scratches are only noticeable when the device is off (thank goodness).
If there are any other persons with the same problem, please post here.
I guess that you did not use a screen protector, right?
Correct. I also own a TyTn II and have no issues with the screen whatsoever. Of all the devices I have owned over the years, only this TC has been an issue.
I was noticing the same so applied the included screen protector... I usually don't bother as I don't like them and the device is a throwaway after a year anyway so it's not a big deal. But in this case I figured if it was like that after a few weeks then after 6 months I'd probably not be able to see the screen!
I've had a few Palm devices before i switched to WM and i noticed this scratching as well......Luckily i'm using the included protector.
I have to say on my previous Palms i didn't have this problem, also while using a protector, which makes me suspect that the stylus is the real problem here.
Any thoughts on this?
I use the screen protector, and also got some spares. I also cover the whoel device with a liquid "screen" protector to helpthe faces from getting ruined. So far so good
Problem with the Touch Cruise (Polaris...) is, that the screen is - unlike the Kaiser's - flat and not indent. This means, its exposed to EVERYTHING it touches. Thus chances are higher you'll get one or two scratches once in a while.
Second thing which I can only cite other ppl on other forums: those Polaris allegedly have a softer top layer to be able to operate the unit using only your finger. This would support catching scratches as well...
I'd use the protector. It's a shame having scratches on that mirrored surface.
Schaggo, can you indicate what other forums people are commenting about the screen?
I am interested in your view that the top layer is softer than most others.
i agree that the stylus is the problem ... to much thin... , i tried one from nintendo ds , it's much more rounded and it slide better ( sorry for my english...)
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i agree that the stylus is the problem ...
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Yeah, I'm using one from my old IPAQ !
ou guys use other styluses? I use my finger, thats what the Touch series should be made for I know it doesnt really work, the fonts are way too small...
Hicksville, I cannot judge what the other ppl say because I used the protector right away. Nothing ever touched my screen without the protector applied. But as I got it, the top film seems to be made of a softer material than the one of other WM devices. Reason for that is the reason for the "Touch" in the devices name: to make the touch layer register the actual point, where the finger tries to point at. If the top layer would be harder/stiffer it allegedly cant tell where exactly the finger tried to hit the screen because the area involved ('touched' eg. pressed down) would be bigger than with a soft top layer. Thats what I got and which makes some sense.
And logically a soft surface is more prone to be 'hurt' than a surface made of hard material. So I guess this might be connected. But I have to repeat, these are all assumptions by users and in no way official statements.
I've been using my phone w/o a screen protector, and I haven't gotten any scratches. Like schaggo I mainly use my finger. I did however test the screen by applying a lot of pressure with the stylus in a sweeping motion, and I didn't get any scratches (don't ask me what possessed me to try this). I later tried a much more conclusive scratch test on a CDMA Touch unit in a store on both the screen and the body and got no scratches! Yes, I applied a lot of pressure, (However, someone else had managed to put a scratch on the CDMA Touch's screen, but that scratch was really deep and probably done with a really sharp object; on the other hand, I did my testing with my TC stylus). I coudln't scratch both the body or the screen using a lot of pressure from my stylus and my nails. Maybe some of you exposed the TC to coins or keys inadvertantly?
That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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Yes, very gutsy, I pushed hard enough to watch the screen sink it and rise back up very slowly...I don't know what I was thinking, but hey it turned out well w/o any scratches. The plastic on the screen is a lot stronger than your typical screen protector, so that fact along with my tests pretty much confirmed it for me. Furthermore, I don't like the look of screen protectors and I'm worried that they'll hinder touch flow.
As far as the casing, it seems bulletproof. But I'm like you, I keep it in the oem suede/microfiber case whenever its not being held to my ear for a phone call, and I've never put it in a pocket with anything else.
Actually with the suede comment I was talking about the body of the actual device. I'm not sure what that is but it has a nice texture to it. I haven't used that pouch that came in the package. Not a big fan of it. Head on over to the acc forum to see which cases people like. As far as the screen protector goes the original one does not hinder touch capabilities. Also in the acc forum they discuss different screen protectors, you might wanna check out one of those as well.
Hello,
Until this morning I was using the screen protector that came with my Pro. And I don't mean the bundled protector you can apply yourself, but the one that comes applied while shipping lol.
But I did that because I know protectors are very very hard to put on without bubbles and dust, and it was indeed hard, I spend around 40 minutes to apply it.
The protector I'm using now is a Brando one, which I think it's excellent, from all the people who saw my phone today there wasn't a single one who noticed the protector.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is that this only protects the screen itself, so the bottom touch panel is unprotected. Should I leave it like this? If not, what are my options?
One thing I noticed is that when I removed the original protector from the panel, I can finally use camera focus, so even if I use some kind of protection, I will probably need a hole for the center button.
The main reason I'm asking is because I read here some people saying the home and back buttons are peeling off, and I definitely don't want that to happen.
Oh, and no, using cases or any kind of outer protection is not an option. Phones are made to be pocket devices.
Thanks.
I have the zagg shield on and it covers the entire bottom plate plus the center button. Feels great and dont even know its there, no problem with the capacitive touch. Only problem is its on the expensive side, and the screen protector part is useless
Boxwave.
I have used many protectors over many phones. The Boxwave (there are two, I prefer the non-Anti-Glare one) is the most scratch-resistant I have used. For the Fuze (Touch Pro) it comes with the piece for the bottom (with a hole). I notice no degradation in sensitivity of the scroll wheel to zoom in Opera or to actually scroll in other apps. I wish it came with a piece for over the camera port, but that may not work on the brushed aluminum trim that is there.
Boxwave.com
Every gadget owner loves their devices be it Cell Phones, Laptops, GPS, Gaming Consoles, etc. and would never want our devices to get scratchy, dirtily, peel off or loose their color and shine. For this some of us freaks keep cleaning out devices or cover them with cheap looking low quality plastic guard just to see it getting peeled off soon and getting all scratches just to buy another one in few weeks. This is because many of us are unaware of some of the finest Body Scratch Guards which themselves can never attain a scratch.
Yes, that’s true and this article is about Top 4 Body Guards covering not just the screen but the complete body of your device, that I came across. I’ll just be giving my honest reviews about all four of them and leave the rest on you to decide which you prefer.
you can find the comparison here:
http://winmo.techparaiso.com/best-s...isible-shields-vs-ghost-armor-vs-body-guardz/
Well based on peoples experience here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398021
I can safely say Invisible shield is not a good solution. Generally anything that adheres to your device runs the risk that your finish will lift off if you ever decide to remove the shield.
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Well based on peoples experience here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398021
I can safely say Invisible shield is not a good solution. Generally anything that adheres to your device runs the risk that your finish will lift off if you ever decide to remove the shield.
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i would still like to see some screenshots of bestskinsever for diamond as nothing is available anywhere.
want the best protector? Buy a psp HORI Protector, cut to size. 100% invisible and only a knife will scratch it. 2 for .99 on ebay
I'd also love to hear people experience with Best Skins Ever. I'm a sucker and always buy the zagg.com stuff, price = quality after all... but would be willing to grab a BSE skin based on peoples reviews, as the markup on zagg.com is ridiculous.
One thing, I dislike with the zagg.com skins is, after a while the protector appears as if it has a gasoline like stain in the middle of it, symmetrical to about half an inch away from the edge of the screen on all sides. So basically a mini rectangle on the inner portion of the display. Any else experience this? and does the BSE have this tendency?
P.S. Don't forget BodyGuardz
I've been using Invisible shield by Zagg since I bought my Diamond and I completly agree with Lokosis. I also feel the corners are becoming a bit rough, it looks like someone can just pull it off.
* Doesn't fit into my HTC pouch anymore (see picture attached).
* Attracts a lot of dust.
* Don't need a bulky case anymore.
* Gives the back cover a shiny effect.
well yesterday i received my best skins for diamond. i must say delivery was really fast but a little disappointed. i'll tell you why later.
also i'll be posting the pics of my diamond soon.
I bought a full cover from invisible shield about a week and a half ago but am still waiting for it to be shipped to me since I live in Australia and there is not stock here.
Didn't realize there was a cheaper alternate to it. I've got to say I'm a bit worried after just reading that post that says it can damage the screen when you remove it after a while...but hopefully I will never have to remove it
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I bought a full cover from invisible shield about a week and a half ago but am still waiting for it to be shipped to me since I live in Australia and there is not stock here.
Didn't realize there was a cheaper alternate to it. I've got to say I'm a bit worried after just reading that post that says it can damage the screen when you remove it after a while...but hopefully I will never have to remove it
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nothing to wory dude. even i first bought IS and den after an hour got to know about BSE so i ordered that too. i'd a talk with IS ppl and they say that when i receive the item, then i should take out the screen guard, put it in envelope and send it back to there address. thats it. they said they dont need the box of spray or anything. just the invisible shield in an envelope. and as soon as they receive it, they'll refund you the money. sending it back in envelope is much cheeper and you save alot. so order BSE now and wait for IS to arrive and send it back
invisible? are you blind?
Well, it's a good screen protector, but it's definitely not invisible...
Are you blind guys?
I just got the screen one and not the whole case skin because I own an o2 Ignito which has a lovely-grippy-rubber-feeling-matt-black back cover, although it is not as sexy as the standard Diamond my wife has.
I was honestly quite disappointed because it is expensive and honestly looks crap compared to cheaper alternatives.
Have you ever tried Vikuiti by 3M guys?
I have it on my Orbit (it's a PSP screen protector, I opened the Orbit and cut the film on the proper size of the display, once re-assembled you can't see any edge at all) it's impossible to leave fingerprints and it is anti-reflection.
The Diamond one is gloss finishing instead, it costs € 8 on eBay (german seller but ships worldwide)
The invisible shield finally arrived. It wouldn't stick to my screen...lol
Well it stuck to the screen, just that the edges are supposed to bend and protect the sides too and no matter how long i held the edges in their positions for they would just unpeel themselves after a couple of minutes. Gave up on the screen, the rest all went on easily and without any visible bubble thingies. I'm not sure if I really care enough to get a new screen protector for the screen, I was more worried about the back of the phone to be honest
Still kinda dissapointed that the screen protector ended up failing for me
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The invisible shield finally arrived. It wouldn't stick to my screen...lol
Well it stuck to the screen, just that the edges are supposed to bend and protect the sides too and no matter how long i held the edges in their positions for they would just unpeel themselves after a couple of minutes. Gave up on the screen, the rest all went on easily and without any visible bubble thingies. I'm not sure if I really care enough to get a new screen protector for the screen, I was more worried about the back of the phone to be honest
Still kinda dissapointed that the screen protector ended up failing for me
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i really don understand where u guys fail. i understand that d edges don stick up but it takes half an hour effort to do it. its easy but takes times and u constantly hav to make it stick.
rest both BSE and IS are great. the point is to make it wet properly and den apply.
the only issue i had is that the IS solution went in my front camera screen and has made it blurred.
rest both are the same according to me.
also to be noted that you do not need to use IS spray. instead you can even put your IS in soapy solutions and apply it like BSE.
the aim is to 1st attch is properly on front screen. let it dry and then bend the edges.
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i really don understand where u guys fail. i understand that d edges don stick up but it takes half an hour effort to do it. its easy but takes times and u constantly hav to make it stick.
rest both BSE and IS are great. the point is to make it wet properly and den apply.
the only issue i had is that the IS solution went in my front camera screen and has made it blurred.
rest both are the same according to me.
also to be noted that you do not need to use IS spray. instead you can even put your IS in soapy solutions and apply it like BSE.
the aim is to 1st attch is properly on front screen. let it dry and then bend the edges.
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I used enough of the solution, got it lined up perfectly with the phone. It was the edge bits that have to be bent to protect the sides where I went wrong. Just couldn't get them to stick and stay stuck properly for some reason
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I used enough of the solution, got it lined up perfectly with the phone. It was the edge bits that have to be bent to protect the sides where I went wrong. Just couldn't get them to stick and stay stuck properly for some reason
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it takes alot of time for sure. for half an hour i kept trying and thought maybe the adhesive wasnt strong enough. but there are two things, 1st you have to use alot of spray to smoothly allign it on screen and then this excess spray avoids the sides to stick onn. so patience, repeated efforts and only when the solution dries up, that is when it starts to stick onn. very tough for sure but in the end it pays off.
BUT the diff bet IS and BSE is that BSE only covers the screen and does not cover the sides so there is no bending problem like IS.
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it takes alot of time for sure. for half an hour i kept trying and thought maybe the adhesive wasnt strong enough. but there are two things, 1st you have to use alot of spray to smoothly allign it on screen and then this excess spray avoids the sides to stick onn. so patience, repeated efforts and only when the solution dries up, that is when it starts to stick onn. very tough for sure but in the end it pays off.
BUT the diff bet IS and BSE is that BSE only covers the screen and does not cover the sides so there is no bending problem like IS.
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In that case I think I might buy one of the BSE. I think that trying to protect the sides is simply too much effort and is tedious. Besides that, the sides are fairly scratch resistant and you can't even see those scratches if them do occur without having to look for them anyway. I really think IS should have skipped trying to protect them or made a second piece to go around the outside.
both are sam so betteer to opt for bse. am loving it.
more pros n cons on bse please......
i found that they didn't provide spray bottle....
mygreatdiamond said:
more pros n cons on bse please......
i found that they didn't provide spray bottle....
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its best not to have spray. as spray gets into front camera and spoils it. best to use simple soap water.
BodyGuardz vs BestSkinsEver
Hello,
Here is my experience. I had a InvisibleSHIELD on my iPod Classic and it was great so I was considering buying one but after reading some of the the feed back it seemed that the product was good but the fit for our diamonds and even the iPhone (which i am now looking for) was not great.
I then heard about BestSkinsEver and because it was so cheap decided to go ahead and try it. I got it over 2 months ago and when I received it I applied it immediately. I have done a few of these so and since I am some what of a perfectionist I applied it to the best I could. It looked OK but after a few weeks the corners started peeling. Also due to the way the backing is placed it puts stress in areas which causes other areas to lift off (this is mostly on the corners). I ended up using a nail clipper to start clipping areas that were peeling off. After about 2 months it started to peal even more so I decided to go back to the reviews and see what was available. After doing some research I decided to go with the 12 piece BodyGuardz. It came in a set of 2 which is nice when i transfer the phone to my wife.
So all of this is to tell you that my first impressions of the BodyGuardz is well as good as I felt when I put the InvisibleSHIELD on my first iPod Classic. For me it did take a while (about 2-3 hours) to apply. This was not done in one sitting but instead because it was a 12 piece I applied each piece with 10 minute intervals allowing for tackiness to set in and so it would be easier to handle as I continued with the many pieces. First major thing I noticed and was really happy about was the BodyGuardz stickiness was considerably more than the BestSkinsEver. It stuck to the corners almost right away. Although throughout the process I did press down on the corners it was quite a bit easier as the BestSkinsEver did not have good stickiness. Also on a side note when i removed the BestSkinsEver it came of like a sticker which i know from my previous iPod is not normal and it usually takes a lot more effort to get it off carefully. Overall I am very happy at my first impressions of the BodyGuardz and the quality of the material seems to be better than the BestSkinsEver. Not to mention the 12 piece may seem like a lot of work but having individual pieces allows for no stress on the film in weird areas allowing it to sit flat with no parts lifting off (so far, i'll update in a month or two). Which is not the same case for the BestSkinsEver and from what I hear the InvisibleSHIELD. Newayz I hope this review helps someone.
Justin
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I never sprayed the device only the shield itself. I would not recommend spraying the device. That said I do like the spray on the shield as it is a bit more even but you can use any spray bottle. I got one with Bodyguardz but there was not enough fluid in it so i had to fill it up with my own solution newayz.
I'm currently waiting for some new screen protectors to arrive BUT
I have an Invisible Shield Screen Protector sat here..
If I fit this is it easy enough to remove when the others arrive ?
Will it leave any marks or residue ?
Are they any good ?
Thanks
Well if you already have it you might as well use it. I find them a little difficult to fit, rather grippy for touch screen use and frankly they do mark up permanently, they are FAR from invisible or indestructible.
I didnt like mine, i actually removed it and fitted a cheap screen protector i got from eBay (6 for 1.99), and much prefer those.
So no issues removing it ? nor residue, gunk or mess ?
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I would say no.
And no i had mine on for a week, no issue at all removing it, if anything it left my screen sparking clean.
I removed mine in favor of this one by FoneM8:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676449
My invisibleShield had a lot of dust under it.
Removing it was painless and left no trace on the screen. I thought it would had been harder to get off but it was quite easy.
You just pull a corner and peel it back slowly.. Not any different from other screen protectors I guess.
I guess it depends on how careful that you are when you apply it. I took my time and used PLENTY of the supplied application fluid and it is great. Yes it is a little grippy, but grippy is better than slippery....?
I have also put a gel case on over my Desire (i have a proven record of putting my phone in the same pocket as my keys), and to date.....not a mark on the phone / screen.
Take your time applying it and use plenty of fluid is my advise
Thanks.
I'm waiting on my order from FoneM8 !
If they don't arrive today I use the Invisible shield and see how I get on.
As long as it won't mark or leave marks on the screen I may as well use it !
Thanks
i had the invisible Sheila, i removed and returned it for a full refund. it was just to restive for my liking but apart from that it was good.
my desire is now rocking the brando ultra clear, couldn't be happier
Currently go a cheap 5 for £2.90 from Amazon.. seems OK !
I had invisible shield fitted for about two weeks.
Removed it finally as I got too frustrated with it.
Fitting it wasn't exactly a doddle, even using plenty solution.
To get shot of bubbles I ended up marking the skin which didn't self heal as we've heard. That's not why I removed it though.
The skin is too sticky to use for touchscreen use.
I can see how it might be good for a laptop or something, but for smart touch screen phone? Nah - bad idea. I reckon it hot sticky climates, it will be even worse, as sweaty hands/fingers don't get on well with the invisible shield.
Personally I want to get my hands on a hard-ish type protector that has only slight give, so that the touch screen experience isn't flawed...
I said no!
I have a cheap 5 for 2.50 off eBay - after wasting 2 the third went on a treat, you'd never know it was there and no change to touchscreen at all
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no don't use it.. i've had my on for bout 2 weeks now and its sucking alot of dust near the edges and what not so i'll be removing them when i'm back from holidays..
yes and no
From my experience of using on various devices and claiming multiple lifetime warranty and countless application, i feel that it's not great for the screen.
It feels "grippy" after applying which is not good when you try to slide your finger on the screen. On the hand on the back of devices it is perfect. It increases grip and prevent fall off from your hand when using one hand(especially people with smaller hands).
For screen, it impacts the clarity but not as bad as anti-glare(matte) screen protector, which I personally hate it. I only applied on the back, sides and button area.
The downside is it takes a lot of patience and time to apply the skin. I took 45 mins. But in the end the effect is simply stunning(if done correctly).
If you don't need the lifetime warranty then you can opt for http://www.bestskinsever.com/htc-desire-skin, USD 8. It's the same sans warranty.
You can check my picasa gallery here
For me it has to be a no, i prefer the HTC screen protector and leather case, i dont go throwing my phone around etc so it suits me fine. I rather than this than an invis shield around my phone but then again i do change my phone a few times each year.
The invis shield is really good but not for me.
Easy to remove, doesnt leave any mess on phone and nope i wouldnt recommend it i just think its stupid and doesnt feel right on the phone
Thanks for the comments.
I decided to wait until my cheap screen protectors arrived.
now fitted and feel good
Cheers
I wanted to put this out there for anyone who might be interested, since I have never been a fan of the usual "peel & stick" screen protectors. They hardly ever go on right and I think they interfere with the touch sensitivity of the screen. So, I decided to give one of these military grade, high tech, screen protectors a try to see if they were any different.
The first thing I noticed is that this one is thin. I mean like Saran Wrap thin. This is great for the touch response of the screen but it made me wonder how well it would actually protect my phone. Second, it is laser cut accurately to fit the screen and all of the holes are in the right place. Supposedly, this material is used to cover the blades of helicopters and it is advertised as being "self healing". On this, I am happy to report that it really does work as advertised. Small scratches slowly fade away and disappear over the course of a few days. One day, I accidentally slipped my phone into the same coat pocket as my car keys and it came out with a bunch of tiny little scratches all over the screen. Within a few days they were all gone. It was kinda weird.
This screen protector is applied with a special spray. I was a bit concerned about having to do a wet application but it really isn't that hard. The package comes with good directions and a link to a video to show you how to put it on. The downside is that your phone will be out of commission overnight while it dries. At first, there will be some minor blemishes, or tiny bubbles, but these will all disappear in a few days. The finished product is crystal clear, almost like having nothing at all. It has kind of an orange peel feel to it and your finger stick a bit, until a little oil builds up on it. The only real negative I have noticed is that finger prints show up badly. I find myself cleaning the screen a lot.
Last, this product comes with lifetime replacement. I can attest that the company stands behind their product. The first one I ordered had a small bubble of the material right in the center of the screen. I was really irritated by this, after all the trouble I went through. I contacted the company and within two days an entire new kit was delivered to my door.
I found this one on Amazon but I'm sure you can find it, or one like it, elsewhere.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A0VN0Q0/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I just recently bought 6 pack of screen protectors from ebay for 2 eur with free shipping in Europe delivered just in few days.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191212361321?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
great value and the 6 pack is a great idea, you have few tries to put the screen protector on the correct way
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I just recently bought 6 pack of screen protectors from ebay for 2 eur with free shipping in Europe delivered just in few days.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191212361321?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
great value and the 6 pack is a great idea, you have few tries to put the screen protector on the correct way
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Yeah, I've been through a lot of them. You need to have about 6 to get one on right! If you're lucky - you get it in less than 3 tries and have some on hand for next time. :laugh:
I purchased the IQ shield product based on the original poster's recommendation. The product arrived ahead of schedule. Like other liquid mounted product, it was fairly easy to put on and adjust until properly aligned. All of the cutouts were correct.
The finish product initially had few bubble, which I squeeze out the bigger ones with the enclosed squeegee. Most of the bubble disappeared after a few hours. The rest after a day.
The surface is really smooth like glass. There isn't any decrease sensitivity issue. The only issue as indicated by the original poster is that finger prints shows and is hard to clean off.
Paul