I'm a software developer and I was wondering if it is possible (through the stock ROM app or 3rd party apps) to get one picture from each camera when taking a picture. Meaning, You end up with "left.jpg" and "right.jpg"! Even more exciting would be the ability to record videos from both cameras at the same time!
This would be interesting because it allows for many exciting 3D applications, such as 3D scanning of objects.
If it's not possible with the honor 8, do you know if it is possible with another dual-camera phone?
The camera is probably using a proprietary file to stitch the two images together. They are supposed going to be release source code to help in the development of custom roms, but I'm assuming that the camera will probably just use the proprietary blob to work. I don't know of any phones that let you get two images.
You could always get two cheap webcams to to achieve the same purpose.
fishku said:
I'm a software developer and I was wondering if it is possible (through the stock ROM app or 3rd party apps) to get one picture from each camera when taking a picture. Meaning, You end up with "left.jpg" and "right.jpg"! Even more exciting would be the ability to record videos from both cameras at the same time!
This would be interesting because it allows for many exciting 3D applications, such as 3D scanning of objects.
If it's not possible with the honor 8, do you know if it is possible with another dual-camera phone?
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I've never found any result about this, it could be possible. But, no one figured how
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I read somewhere (not sure where) that third party camera apps can not use the full potential of the dual-camera. Only the stock app can do that - not quite sure but I rememeber something that it can't access the 20MP black&white sensor or something.
Is this correct?
I would say that most third-party software was coded with one sensor in mind. I don't own a Mate 9, but I do know a bit about combining two images in one (binning) and photography. They are highly specialized actions, that require specially made software.
Dual lens appears to be the trend. Might go to the play store, send an email to the camera FV-5 folks. They've always been fast to respond
to my questions. I'm not really "interested" in dual lens cameras on phones. I use it for quick snapshots of things I work on (electronics).
for everything else, I defer to my dSLR.
So I have been thinking, in a few years, when everyone gets new phones, with new features. How are we going to edit the pictures taken with Wide Aperture mode (fake bokeh)? The only app able to change the depth of field of the picture is the stock gallery app by Huawei/honor that came with the phone.
Google photos DOES save the information to be edited later (but there is no way to edit them on Google photos app as far as I can tell).
So if a year later you restore photos to this phone and try to edit them, you can, but only with the stock gallery app.
Anyone here know of any 3rd party software on Windows desktop, and or on the web or android that can do this? So we don't have to be reliant on the Gallery app from Huawei in case we change phones later on.
Thanks.
You can't really change the aperture on phones as the aperture is fixed to f2 or bit more. What Google and Huawei and all the other do, is to approximate the behaviour by blurring the background in a postprocessing step. The better they detect foreground and background, the better this illusion works. But it's never a real bokeh.
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You can't really change the aperture on phones as the aperture is fixed to f2 or bit more. What Google and Huawei and all the other do, is to approximate the behaviour by blurring the background in a postprocessing step. The better they detect foreground and background, the better this illusion works. But it's never a real bokeh.
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I am well aware how this camera works, i am a part time photographer, This was not my question! my question was if there is an external source or app that allows us to edit these kinds of photos as the gallery app does, to refocus after we take the pics using the wide aperture mode.
I think that what Huawei does with their gallery app is a bit proprietary.
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I think that what Huawei does with their gallery app is a bit proprietary.
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So basically after a few years if we want to edit these pictures it would either be impossible with another brand of phone, or might perhaps be possible if we keep buying huawei phones, with this feature, which is not a sure thing.
Yes I think so. But I didn't investigate on this topic. At least one can still open the Jpeg as the depth information is somewhat in it.
Unfortunately no third party apps that can do this.
Maybe if someone can port the gallery app, that will work!
I use the app "Automate" to do various chores on my phone, such as turning off my bluetooth radio when I leave home. I highly recommend it to anyone who has interest. Having bought the PH-1, I decided to play with some time-lapse videography. This is fairly easy to do in Automate, as it has the functionality to take pictures (and wait between) built-in. I can use either the primary camera or the selfie camera, and then stitch the pictures together in post to make the video.
My problem is the 360 camera. I so want to experiment with the 360 camera, but I am having some issues.
1) First, the camera seems to turn off when the Essential Camera App is not active. Does anyone know how to override this?
2) When I am configuring Automate. It does not sense the 360 camera. I am not sure how the app detects cameras, or if it does at all. After all, when was the last time you had a phone with something other than two cameras? It may be easiest as a programmer to just assume, and ignore the corner cases. But I am going to operate on the assumption it is possible to get this to work. In the app, if you set the "Camera" variable to 1, you get the primary camera, and if you set it to 2, you get the selfie. The obvious thing is to try 3 for the 360 camera, but this does not work. Neither does trying 0. Is there anyone who is both an owner of a PH-1 and a competent user of Automate that might have any ideas? Personally, I suspect if I can achieve step one above, this problem will come into greater focus. It will either be detected, or I will have enough information to go to the Automate community with requests. Right now though I suspect it is easier to find someone here with Automate experience than going there looking for someone with the PH-1.
Thanks for helping out!
Murtagh
I've never used automate, but I assume the "take picture" function you are using is independent.
Try setting automate to open up the essential cam, and then "take picture". The camera app has to be coded to read the external usb camera.
I use a app called Torque with an addon called Track Recoder as a dash cam while driving. It's a great app and it ties into a bluetooth OBDII adapter so i get real time info on my videos. Right now I can select the rear camera or front camera but would like to use both. The option in the app to use the front and rear camera is there but from what I have read it's part of the OS only allowing me to use one camera at a time and I can't get around it.
Is there a custom rom or will rooting the phone allow me this option? I have rooted plenty of phones in the past and have no problem doing it to my S8 Plus if that is what needed.
Anyone have any insight? Would really like to be able to record my drive using both cameras.
Thanks!
Do you have access to the Samsung app store ?
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If you do. Search for something called Dual camera. It's an add on by Samsung free to download. Download and enjoy man
I have installed that hoping it would work but no luck. It will work if using the Samsung app but anything outside of that it won't. I attached a couple screen shots from inside the app I am trying to use this with. From what the developer said it was specific to the Samsung S8 and the OS, which is why i was hoping maybe a root and custom rom might solve the problem for me.
I selected the forward facing camera for camera 2 and it just says it's offline.
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Here is the note from the developer of the app.
I have a s8+ which does support dual camera but not through tracking recorder. there is a app from Samsung called dual camera so yes, dual camera works. just sucks track recording wont allow it. i need it because i need to record what passengers do in my vehicle.
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That uses samsings proprietary APIs (which basically use their own chip to do picture in picture on the main camera picture – so the app only sees one camera)
Unfortunately Samsung haven’t made this API public, so it’s not possible – if someone managed to reverse engineer it then that’s great, though it’s not public and not a ‘standard’
Sony did it properly (as did LG) and as a result, using the Android standard camera API it can correctly see 2 cameras, however samsungs can’t as they don’t become visible as 2 seperate cameras, but instead ‘merge’ the picture into the ‘first’ camera and I currently have no way to access that proprietary(read: a custom way the manufacturer decided to do it instead of the android way) to get it to work
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My Dad is in a care home without WiFi available. Visiting is difficult due to distance and health restrictions.
I would like to set him up with some sort of "digital photo frame" that my siblings and I can add photos to. I have an older Tab A with LTE that I figured I could rig up with Google Photos and a shared album we can all add photos to.
Unfortunately that doesn't work quite as seamlessly as I'd hoped. I can make the screensaver run a slideshow from a Google Photos album, which does what I need, but I have to actually go into the album and add the shared photos to it before the screensaver picks them up.
I've found a few digital frame apps that claim to be able to use a Google Photos album but so far no luck making them work, and the visiting problems means I can't regularly update photos in person.
My Nest Hub nicely does what we need (running a slideshow from a shared Photos album), but with no WiFi, it can't connect to that.
I figured if I could remote into the thing, I could force those updates, or just upload photos into a proper digital frame app... but this is too old (Android 5.0.2) for TeamViewer, and so far the only other thing I've found that claims to do what I need is Rescue+, which requires the tablet user to enter a code.
Can anyone suggest either another digital frame app that can pull photos from a shared online album, OR some kind of remote-access app that will work with this older device?
Yes, I've also thought of some kind of WiFi hotspot to provide internet for a proper digital frame, but I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible on-site and keep the equipment count down.
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My Dad is in a care home without WiFi available. Visiting is difficult due to distance and health restrictions.
I would like to set him up with some sort of "digital photo frame" that my siblings and I can add photos to. I have an older Tab A with LTE that I figured I could rig up with Google Photos and a shared album we can all add photos to.
Unfortunately that doesn't work quite as seamlessly as I'd hoped. I can make the screensaver run a slideshow from a Google Photos album, which does what I need, but I have to actually go into the album and add the shared photos to it before the screensaver picks them up.
I've found a few digital frame apps that claim to be able to use a Google Photos album but so far no luck making them work, and the visiting problems means I can't regularly update photos in person.
My Nest Hub nicely does what we need (running a slideshow from a shared Photos album), but with no WiFi, it can't connect to that.
I figured if I could remote into the thing, I could force those updates, or just upload photos into a proper digital frame app... but this is too old (Android 5.0.2) for TeamViewer, and so far the only other thing I've found that claims to do what I need is Rescue+, which requires the tablet user to enter a code.
Can anyone suggest either another digital frame app that can pull photos from a shared online album, OR some kind of remote-access app that will work with this older device?
Yes, I've also thought of some kind of WiFi hotspot to provide internet for a proper digital frame, but I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible on-site and keep the equipment count down.
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The simple solution is to just buy a digital frame that is already made for that purpose, otherwise, more than likely you won't be pleased with the results you get with what you are currently trying.
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The simple solution is to just buy a digital frame that is already made for that purpose, otherwise, more than likely you won't be pleased with the results you get with what you are currently trying.
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Okay... do you know of one with LTE?
If not, it's still not a "simple solution."
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Okay... do you know of one with LTE?
If not, it's still not a "simple solution."
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True. If it is a tablet that can be activated on a mobile plan/prepaid network, that would reduce the amount of hardware and it could be set up to access remotely to update or add photos.