Wide Appreture editing app, besides stock gallery - Honor 8 Questions & Answers

So I have been thinking, in a few years, when everyone gets new phones, with new features. How are we going to edit the pictures taken with Wide Aperture mode (fake bokeh)? The only app able to change the depth of field of the picture is the stock gallery app by Huawei/honor that came with the phone.
Google photos DOES save the information to be edited later (but there is no way to edit them on Google photos app as far as I can tell).
So if a year later you restore photos to this phone and try to edit them, you can, but only with the stock gallery app.
Anyone here know of any 3rd party software on Windows desktop, and or on the web or android that can do this? So we don't have to be reliant on the Gallery app from Huawei in case we change phones later on.
Thanks.

You can't really change the aperture on phones as the aperture is fixed to f2 or bit more. What Google and Huawei and all the other do, is to approximate the behaviour by blurring the background in a postprocessing step. The better they detect foreground and background, the better this illusion works. But it's never a real bokeh.

faeArai said:
You can't really change the aperture on phones as the aperture is fixed to f2 or bit more. What Google and Huawei and all the other do, is to approximate the behaviour by blurring the background in a postprocessing step. The better they detect foreground and background, the better this illusion works. But it's never a real bokeh.
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I am well aware how this camera works, i am a part time photographer, This was not my question! my question was if there is an external source or app that allows us to edit these kinds of photos as the gallery app does, to refocus after we take the pics using the wide aperture mode.

I think that what Huawei does with their gallery app is a bit proprietary.

faeArai said:
I think that what Huawei does with their gallery app is a bit proprietary.
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So basically after a few years if we want to edit these pictures it would either be impossible with another brand of phone, or might perhaps be possible if we keep buying huawei phones, with this feature, which is not a sure thing.

Yes I think so. But I didn't investigate on this topic. At least one can still open the Jpeg as the depth information is somewhat in it.

Unfortunately no third party apps that can do this.
Maybe if someone can port the gallery app, that will work!

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Camera problem

Does anybody have problems with camera during small distance operations like bar code or qr code reading. It is almost impossible to read those codes with my device. I have 9020 model
Tried to change focus to "macro" in camera settings?
Helps a bit.
So basicly the way that camera works is a feature ?
Well, if your barcode reader app can't read the barcode I'd blame the app.
If you meant that you can't read the barcode details (numbers) on a picture you have taken then this _might_ be because of the focus setting (macro vs .automatic). Also remember to set to 5mp, not below. In the end NxS' camera isn't the best in the smartphone market, but one of the better. It's still no match to today's pure camera shots.

Changing location of pictures taken with camera

Anyone know how to change the location of pictures taken with the camera? I'd personally like to save them in /sdcard/Pictures/Camera.
Thanks!
Phil
I don't believe you can (at least from the in-app menus supplied with HTC's Camera app). You can always search the market for an alternative camera app. I know it's probably not ideal (I prefer to keep things as stock as possible), but it may be the only option until a dev can edit the APK.

Camera: Possible to read out both cameras separately?

I'm a software developer and I was wondering if it is possible (through the stock ROM app or 3rd party apps) to get one picture from each camera when taking a picture. Meaning, You end up with "left.jpg" and "right.jpg"! Even more exciting would be the ability to record videos from both cameras at the same time!
This would be interesting because it allows for many exciting 3D applications, such as 3D scanning of objects.
If it's not possible with the honor 8, do you know if it is possible with another dual-camera phone?
The camera is probably using a proprietary file to stitch the two images together. They are supposed going to be release source code to help in the development of custom roms, but I'm assuming that the camera will probably just use the proprietary blob to work. I don't know of any phones that let you get two images.
You could always get two cheap webcams to to achieve the same purpose.
fishku said:
I'm a software developer and I was wondering if it is possible (through the stock ROM app or 3rd party apps) to get one picture from each camera when taking a picture. Meaning, You end up with "left.jpg" and "right.jpg"! Even more exciting would be the ability to record videos from both cameras at the same time!
This would be interesting because it allows for many exciting 3D applications, such as 3D scanning of objects.
If it's not possible with the honor 8, do you know if it is possible with another dual-camera phone?
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I've never found any result about this, it could be possible. But, no one figured how

third party camera apps

I read somewhere (not sure where) that third party camera apps can not use the full potential of the dual-camera. Only the stock app can do that - not quite sure but I rememeber something that it can't access the 20MP black&white sensor or something.
Is this correct?
I would say that most third-party software was coded with one sensor in mind. I don't own a Mate 9, but I do know a bit about combining two images in one (binning) and photography. They are highly specialized actions, that require specially made software.
Dual lens appears to be the trend. Might go to the play store, send an email to the camera FV-5 folks. They've always been fast to respond
to my questions. I'm not really "interested" in dual lens cameras on phones. I use it for quick snapshots of things I work on (electronics).
for everything else, I defer to my dSLR.

[Photography Enthusiasts] My A2 Lite Photography

Hey there fellas. I just wanted to share with you a couple photos that I took with my A2 Lite [GCam]. Some of them were edited with the Adobe Lightroom. I am aspiring to become a professional photographer. What do you think of these? https://imgur.com/a/YadOgaz
Enjoy!
Damn, I love your pictures. Could you share with us which gcam did you use for these photos ?
marstonpear said:
Damn, I love your pictures. Could you share with us which gcam did you use for these photos ?
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Thank you so much! ^_^ It's always nice to hear compliments when you're an amateur at something. Currently I am using 3 GCam apks actually, one of which I am using for the front camera only. The other two I use for the back camera only but - one of them has better autofocus and manual mode on the viewfinder (ISO, shutter speed), the other one I set to longest exposure time and minimal possible ISO in the settings so it's always taking pics for a longer time but they turn out quite sharp even in the night (when the focus is successful).
I really don't remember the links for the apks, could I just extract them and upload them here?
These are apks in question:
5.1.018 - front cam, the only version I found where the front cam works with the hdr+
6.2.024 - back cam, (auto)focus is rarely successful, but when it is, pictures turn out great with manual ISO and shutter speed settings (ps you may use the portrait mode for manual focusing it works flawlessly and you can also use hdr+ enhanced with it, but you can't use RAW which is a huge downside for me)
6.2.030 - back cam, better focus than 6.2.024 and manual mode is on the viewfinder (iso and shutter speed)
Personally I use the 6.2.024 more often because you can set camera to shoot in fixed exposure time and minimal ISO for the given situation.
novak.vujacic97 said:
Hey there fellas. I just wanted to share with you a couple photos that I took with my A2 Lite [GCam]. Some of them were edited with the Adobe Lightroom. I am aspiring to become a professional photographer. What do you think of these? https://imgur.com/a/YadOgaz
Enjoy!
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Good job. Finally gcam for proper use. You may want to try Snapseed also for post processing. Does Lightroom have a proper profile for raw conversion?
celrau said:
Good job. Finally gcam for proper use. You may want to try Snapseed also for post processing. Does Lightroom have a proper profile for raw conversion?
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It does have profile [lens] corrections (if that is what you mean; the GCam can shoot in RAW and I edit the RAW and export to JPEG in original resolution with lightroom after pp) for Google Pixel phones but I am not using them tbh because I usually fix the geometry and colour grading all by myself.
Thanks for the recommendation - I've heard of Snapseed but haven't really given it a shot - I definitely will now.
Oh and thanks for the compliments!
EDIT: I'm using Lightroom for Android.
Who knows with the right camera (gcam in this case) and talents we could have some pretty decent pictures (more than just decent tbh, kudos to you) from this phone's camera.
Keep shooting mate. And to answer your question, I love your shots!
moixiax said:
Who knows with the right camera (gcam in this case) and talents we could have some pretty decent pictures (more than just decent tbh, kudos to you) from this phone's camera.
Keep shooting mate. And to answer your question, I love your shots!
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Thanks!!! :angel: :angel: :angel:
novak.vujacic97 said:
It does have profile [lens] corrections (if that is what you mean
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I was referring to color profiles; when you shoot raw with a digital camera and afterwards you process it to save a jpeg or tiff or whatever, the application (I'm talking about a desktop app) needs the camera's color profile to know how to interpret raw information in order to achieve the colors you actually saw. Unfortunately DNGs saved by phones don't contain that profile and they look faded when first opened in a processor, you must do all the work manually to get a decent looking image, at least that was my experience. That's why I was asking since I didn't use phone Lightroom in a long time, maybe first version.
great photos!
a small request if you can,
from gcam mods website https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
you can find your gcam versions you took the photos WITH the feature of load/save settings (xml file), some developers already released. then you can create your config and share here with that and appropriate gcam link... will be more helpful.
btw, this gcam (version 7) supports selfies (front cam) with hdr+ / hdr enhanced :
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog984/
and it supports load/save settings to xml too. an example of above.
celrau said:
I was referring to color profiles; when you shoot raw with a digital camera and afterwards you process it to save a jpeg or tiff or whatever, the application (I'm talking about a desktop app) needs the camera's color profile to know how to interpret raw information in order to achieve the colors you actually saw. Unfortunately DNGs saved by phones don't contain that profile and they look faded when first opened in a processor, you must do all the work manually to get a decent looking image, at least that was my experience. That's why I was asking since I didn't use phone Lightroom in a long time, maybe first version.
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Oh yes, you're right, it doesn't. I don't think the desktop app has those profiles for smartphone cameras either. Tbh I like that the DNGs are the way they are because it makes me learn how to do post processing in a good and proper way instead of having the app just do everything for me, plus they contain a hell lot of editable information and once you've processed them, they look way better and sharper than the JPEGs.
syndromtr said:
great photos!
a small request if you can,
from gcam mods website https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
you can find your gcam versions you took the photos WITH the feature of load/save settings (xml file), some developers already released. then you can create your config and share here with that and appropriate gcam link... will be more helpful.
btw, this gcam (version 7) supports selfies (front cam) with hdr+ / hdr enhanced :
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog984/
and it supports load/save settings to xml too. an example of above.
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Hey there! Thank you for your compliment. Since I couldn't find the links on celsoazevedo even though I downloaded my GCams from there, I simply uploaded all 3 to mediafire - here's the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ae5wblp56ebubqn/GCamAPKs.rar/file
As for my personal settings, I shall screenshot them a bit later and attach them here.
I don't really fancy GCam 7 though
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Originally Posted by syndromtr
great photos!
a small request if you can,
from gcam mods website https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/a...google-camera/
you can find your gcam versions you took the photos WITH the feature of load/save settings (xml file), some developers already released. then you can create your config and share here with that and appropriate gcam link... will be more helpful.
btw, this gcam (version 7) supports selfies (front cam) with hdr+ / hdr enhanced :
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/a.../changelog984/
and it supports load/save settings to xml too. an example of above.
Hey there! Thank you for your compliment. Since I couldn't find the links on celsoazevedo even though I downloaded my GCams from there, I simply uploaded all 3 to mediafire - here's the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ae5wbl...mAPKs.rar/file
As for my personal settings, I shall screenshot them a bit later and attach them here.
I don't really fancy GCam 7 though
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My settings for 6.2.024 and 6.2.030 GCAMs:
https://imgur.com/a/wJ18pWS
novak.vujacic97 said:
Hey there fellas...https://imgur.com/a/YadOgaz
Enjoy!
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Man, beautiful shots! I think even Xiaomi would be suprised what's possible with their little budget phone
And what an informative thread too. (Like old school xda).
dSERiES said:
Man, beautiful shots! I think even Xiaomi would be suprised what's possible with their little budget phone
And what an informative thread too. (Like old school xda).
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Sadly, they know it is capable of shooting great pics like this, but they just won't let us use the full capacity of the camera. Hence disabling Cam2API and the stock camera app sucking so bad at taking pics lmao.
marstonpear said:
Sadly, they know it is capable of shooting great pics like this, but they just won't let us use the full capacity of the camera. Hence disabling Cam2API and the stock camera app sucking so bad at taking pics lmao.
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It's like xiaomi license the camera app from a 3rd party developer and they're not allowed to touch it. They don't update the app on any of their phones and even if the hardware capable to do magic the software side is dumbed down even on their flagship phones...

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