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Broken Charging Port

Hi All
I was given this MT4GS about three months ago by a friend. All of the sudden it stopped taking a charge. At first, if i held the charger the right way, it might get a little charge, but now I'm getting nothing. So, I'm alternating between a couple Anker batteries and one stock, hoping someone has had this repaired (and that it wont' cost me a ton of money). Did anyone else have this problem?
Thanks

that sounds more like a usb cable problem than charger port... have you tried other usb cables?

my chargers go bad in about 4 months...I noticed they get really loose in my device. I got this cable and it still works (its been around 6 months) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GF8TIK/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00 (this is just the cable, keep the power plug from your stock charger)

xmc wildchild22 said:
my chargers go bad in about 4 months...I noticed they get really loose in my device. I got this cable and it still works (its been around 6 months) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GF8TIK/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00 (this is just the cable, keep the power plug from your stock charger)
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I thought i was the only one whos charger went dead like that, seems like the 2 hooks go flat after a while
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That's the one bad thing about micro usb. It's the standard port for all android phones now, but it's very small, and if you're not careful it can break easily

My MT4G Slide recently started to exhibit this problem. The original cable that came with the phone still works perfectly fine. Unfortunately all my other cables have stopped working. I'll order the cable in the thread and hopefully it will work fine.
Kinda annoying cause now my car and bedside chargers are useless.

Almost 99% of the time will be the cable. I had to replace mine 4 times in one year.
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h3ktyk said:
Almost 99% of the time will be the cable. I had to replace mine 4 times in one year.
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you might check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnXcFG3674
this guy shows how you can use a needle to 'clean out' the port, because sometimes lint gets wedged down in and prevents the cord from making good contact.

And after you've cleaned it out, I would get something like this to prevent it from happening again
http://www.topicovers.com/products/micro-usb-port-cover
Or clean all the lint out of your pockets!
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So yea that cable works okay. Still not perfect though but better than nothing.
I think one of the pins is just bent down and I don't have pliers so small that I could pull them back up. Plus it's hard to see.
Has nothing to do with the cable. All with the port. The cables all work perfectly fine on other devices.

there IS a difference in usb cables

I have read so many threads with problem x solved by using a quality USB cable, and yet I still find others arguing that there is no difference in cheap cables. In-fact i have just had a discussion about this with a friend yesterday so i thought i would just let everyone know - USE A GOOD CABLE!
To test this I used an ebay cable, oem samsung, oem moto, and a case logic cable. I then simply transferred a small 6 mb file and a larger 200mb file to the phone.
Ebay - phone wouldn't even connect to pc.
Sam - both worked
Moto - both worked
Case - 6 mb worked, 200 started and then completely froze forcing phone reboot.
So again, especially when flashing, use a good cable!

Good to know. Thanks

Just another heads up... My wife has a Motorola and I have the siii. Using my siii cable, both of our phones charge at least three times faster. Using the Motorola cable, both of our phones charge much slower.
Another heads up... Get the best of both worlds, high quality and low price on a usb cable. Go to monoprice.com!
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Most Likely those talking about difference in Cables could be talking about how each manufacture alters their cable.
For example, Moto and Samsung have a Resister that links 2 of the 5 pins which is hidden in the plastic. Reason for this is, Car docks, it would tell phone to open car dock App etc, Same for media docks.
Charger usb cables are same because some phones can handle a higher amp of charging which charges faster while a standard usb cable needs to made to have a limit to not fry the device it is being used on.
Hope This helps, i know it did when I learned this,. Now it makes more reasons and ideas for Mods...LOL

This is news??
Duh.
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Isn't it just safe to use the USB cable that came with the device?

1ManWolfePack said:
This is news??
Duh.
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News???

sircody said:
News???
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I mean, I thought this was a given...
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1ManWolfePack said:
I mean, I thought this was a given...
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LOL....Was trying to be nice and spread a little learned knowledge to person here talking about differences in usb ....and why

sircody said:
LOL....Was trying to be nice and spread a little learned knowledge to person here talking about differences in usb ....and why
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Fair enough!
***bows head in silence
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monoprice
TheHobbyist said:
Get the best of both worlds, high quality and low price on a usb cable. Go to monoprice.com!
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I'll second that, best place to get almost any cable you can think of. I have yet to be disappointed.

sircody said:
Most Likely those talking about difference in Cables could be talking about how each manufacture alters their cable.
For example, Moto and Samsung have a Resister that links 2 of the 5 pins which is hidden in the plastic. Reason for this is, Car docks, it would tell phone to open car dock App etc, Same for media docks.
Charger usb cables are same because some phones can handle a higher amp of charging which charges faster while a standard usb cable needs to made to have a limit to not fry the device it is being used on.
Hope This helps, i know it did when I learned this,. Now it makes more reasons and ideas for Mods...LOL
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If you're using a charger for a different device, it's likely that they have different amperage. A 2 amp charger will charge your phone a LOT faster than, say, the 0.5 amps off your computer's USB port. In this case, it's not the USB cable itself, but the amperage of the transformer in the charger. Some may argue that the slower charge is "better" and will help your battery last longer.
If you're using the same charger with different USB cables, then this is news.

I haven't even used the OEM cable that came with my GSIII. I picked up a 6 foot no name USB cable from newegg for $1.39 and it works fine.
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tech.kyle said:
If you're using a charger for a different device, it's likely that they have different amperage. A 2 amp charger will charge your phone a LOT faster than, say, the 0.5 amps off your computer's USB port. In this case, it's not the USB cable itself, but the amperage of the transformer in the charger. Some may argue that the slower charge is "better" and will help your battery last longer.
If you're using the same charger with different USB cables, then this is news.
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Was going to point this exact thing out. It is also possible the cables could be rated for passing different rates but it is much more likely that something is putting off more power so it charges faster. I do tend to agree though that slower is better since you can pull the plug faster and not overcharge

Over time I end up having loose connection problems with virtually any microusb cable i buy, including from monoprice. At first the cable plugs into the phone fine and charges. Overtime somehow the microusb part that goes in the phone is looser in the phone than before, and i have to angle my phone in way to get it to start charging. The slightest movement causes the charging to stop. I have had this problem with almost every micro usb cable i ever owned ever since I got an htc thunderbolt and the problem continues now with my s3.
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These work fine for me
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=400319400418&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=76893193121
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going to mono price. I'll report the results.

One thing to keep in mind also is that most, if not all, USB cables aren't shielded so the longer they are they degrade the transfer speeds etc. I don't think it would make a difference for charging, but to transfer data a shorter higher quality cable would be your best bet. I don't know if the degradation would be noticeable tho...

zmedhaug said:
going to mono price. I'll report the results.
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You wont be disappointed. Quality products at great prices. They also stand behind their products if, in the rare event, you have a problem with one.

zedocus16 said:
I have read so many threads with problem x solved by using a quality USB cable, and yet I still find others arguing that there is no difference in cheap cables. In-fact i have just had a discussion about this with a friend yesterday so i thought i would just let everyone know - USE A GOOD CABLE!
To test this I used an ebay cable, oem samsung, oem moto, and a case logic cable. I then simply transferred a small 6 mb file and a larger 200mb file to the phone.
Ebay - phone wouldn't even connect to pc.
Sam - both worked
Moto - both worked
Case - 6 mb worked, 200 started and then completely froze forcing phone reboot.
So again, especially when flashing, use a good cable!
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When you say the transfer started and then froze, I would have to ask what ROM you're running. If it's TW or TW-based, I'd be much more willing to blame the software than the cable. Using Samsung's MTP interface, I have had plenty of large file transfers crap out using both high and low quality cables.
Either way, this test is hardly complete. Obviously somethings wrong with the Ebay cable, but for the other tests, you need to run them more than once. To give any statistical significance to the data, the tests have to be run a bunch of times. Otherwise it is (as far as you know) just luck.
Also, as others have said, I think the primary differences between cheap and "quality" usb cables are
Amperage (which is mostly due to the charger, not the cable, but generally you want a cable that can handle it)
Quality of the connector (cheap cables generally have flimsy connectors)
Quality of construction/Durability (may work fine, but die after a month or two).
I don't think data transfer is something that is really impacted much by the quality of the cable (until you hit that point where the cheap cable just stops working). Getting back to my earlier point about the limited testing, I think if you ran the same test a whole bunch of times (like 100 times for each file on each cable), you'd find that as long as the cable actually works (which seems to exclude the ebay one), they'd probably perform about the same on average.
Just my two cents.

Charging port going bad?

My phone has been hating chargers lately. I would say that my charging port is definitely going bad, except that there are a couple of chargers that do work pretty well with my phone. I bought a new Verizon universal car charger, and the first one worked well for about a month before my phone started connecting and disconnecting repeatedly. I took the charger to Verizon and the tech support lady took my phone and charger away for a few mins. She said that my car charger had a short in it. OK. So now I have a new one, and it is working well. But as for every other charger that I use. They all seem to have a very difficult time connecting or staying connected. If I move the cord around, the phone will begin to charge, although at a VERY slow pace. All of my high capacity chargers are doing this as well. Hours to charge the phone fully. Are all of my chargers simply going to crap, or is my charging port taking a slow dive? Ideas?

If I were you, I would get a wireless charger ASAP, to save wear and tear on your charge port. There are a few if you search. Verizon has one also.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans

alprazolam said:
My phone has been hating chargers lately. I would say that my charging port is definitely going bad, except that there are a couple of chargers that do work pretty well with my phone. I bought a new Verizon universal car charger, and the first one worked well for about a month before my phone started connecting and disconnecting repeatedly. I took the charger to Verizon and the tech support lady took my phone and charger away for a few mins. She said that my car charger had a short in it. OK. So now I have a new one, and it is working well. But as for every other charger that I use. They all seem to have a very difficult time connecting or staying connected. If I move the cord around, the phone will begin to charge, although at a VERY slow pace. All of my high capacity chargers are doing this as well. Hours to charge the phone fully. Are all of my chargers simply going to crap, or is my charging port taking a slow dive? Ideas?
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Have you checked to see if your phone is charging by USB or ac? I ask because a lot of times my phone says USB even though it is an ac source.
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neh4pres said:
If I were you, I would get a wireless charger ASAP, to save wear and tear on your charge port. There are a few if you search. Verizon has one also.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
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Now that's not a bad idea. I forgot that these things have a wireless charging option. It's a little expensive if I remember right. I do have a $100 gift card from Christmas for Best Buy (hate that place!).
TXI Kaze said:
Have you checked to see if your phone is charging by USB or ac? I ask because a lot of times my phone says USB even though it is an ac source.
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It does show charging by AC. I'll check on all of my chargers to be sure. But to clarify, on most chargers, my phone disconnects and reconnects to the charger over and over. It's as if either every charging cable I have is bad, or my charging port is loose or not getting a good connection. I have to make sure my phone sits even with the charging cable, or it won't charge at all. Vehicle chargers are the worst because of the constant movement in a vehicle.

alprazolam said:
Now that's not a bad idea. I forgot that these things have a wireless charging option. It's a little expensive if I remember right. I do have a $100 gift card from Christmas for Best Buy (hate that place!).
It does show charging by AC. I'll check on all of my chargers to be sure. But to clarify, on most chargers, my phone disconnects and reconnects to the charger over and over. It's as if either every charging cable I have is bad, or my charging port is loose or not getting a good connection. I have to make sure my phone sits even with the charging cable, or it won't charge at all. Vehicle chargers are the worst because of the constant movement in a vehicle.
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Ah, okay. Didn't read that part haha. If i were you and had another phone to temporarily use i would send the phone to Samsung for warranty repair.
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alprazolam said:
My phone has been hating chargers lately. I would say that my charging port is definitely going bad, except that there are a couple of chargers that do work pretty well with my phone. I bought a new Verizon universal car charger, and the first one worked well for about a month before my phone started connecting and disconnecting repeatedly. I took the charger to Verizon and the tech support lady took my phone and charger away for a few mins. She said that my car charger had a short in it. OK. So now I have a new one, and it is working well. But as for every other charger that I use. They all seem to have a very difficult time connecting or staying connected. If I move the cord around, the phone will begin to charge, although at a VERY slow pace. All of my high capacity chargers are doing this as well. Hours to charge the phone fully. Are all of my chargers simply going to crap, or is my charging port taking a slow dive? Ideas?
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Mine does the same thing. I hate it I only have one one usb cord that always works the others no longer worj and when I buy a new one they workz for a short period of time.
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TXI Kaze said:
Ah, okay. Didn't read that part haha. If i were you and had another phone to temporarily use i would send the phone to Samsung for warranty repair.
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Yeah...it is still under the Verizon warranty. I have taken it up there, but I didn't want to be an ass, insisting that it's the phone, when maybe the phone is just picky about chargers. They did try to swap out my battery, as a first step. I'm probably gonna go up and insist on a replacement. I just don't see it being every other charger. I have owned several other smartphones that were power intensive, such as the Galaxy Nexus and the Droid X. They didn't have this problem.
johnnilsson said:
Mine does the same thing. I hate it I only have one one usb cord that always works the others no longer worj and when I buy a new one they workz for a short period of time.
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Have you gone to Verizon about it? Just curious to know what they said to you, if so.

[Q] Terrible charge rate?

One of the things I loved most about my Nexus 4 was just how quickly it charged. And unlike my SGSII before it, it could even gain a charge while being actively used for Waze. Really great.
With the 5 I'm back to where I was. And thanks to tools I picked up during the 4, I'm able to see why more easily. Seems on the exact same chargers I used my 4 on, I'm easily pulling 400+mA less than the 4 did from the same device and same cable.
I haven't had time to draw a correlation yet, but last night at home on a multi-out adapter from Monoprice I was able to pull over 1200mA which is more than I've ever seen ANY of my devices pull before. But today, on the same model at my office, but with a different cable, I'm pulling around 200mA. Same as what I was getting in my car, which would frequently dip into the negatives, and that was WITHOUT Waze running. Also of note, in ALL of these locations it's being listed as "USB plugged" instead of "AC plugged." I'd say that accounts for the difference there, but the 1200mA draw was listed the same way, so I doubt it.
So, has anyone else noticed this yet and found any correlations between devices, cables, etc., so we can figure this out? Using more power than it takes in will not be something I can survive with and will definitely make this phone a less-than-ideal upgrade over the 4 in the battery life department. But it's pretty clear it's not impossible to get a good charge.
(and yes, before anyone asks, all of my adapters have jacks with a minimum of 1A out, and each also has a 2.1A port. Surprisingly, unlike my 4 which tended to draw LESS power from the 2.1A port, the 5 appears to be unconcerned by the difference, pulling the same poor number from both)

Yes, i agree with you. I just check today, charging my phone from the pc and it seems fast charge isn't doing its thing.

duckied said:
Yes, i agree with you. I just check today, charging my phone from the pc and it seems fast boot isn't doing its thing.
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Well, I haven't even dared test it from a PC yet. All I can say is from wall warts and car chargers it's terrible. I can't imagine how bad it is from the limited PC ports. Although it's probably exactly the same, since it seems to be identifying all my wall outlets as USB connections.

using my lg g2 charger and it charges my nexus 5 super fast. 1 hour charge will give me almost full battery

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using my lg g2 charger and it charges my nexus 5 super fast. 1 hour charge will give me almost full battery
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Not too surprising. I've read other reports that it charges nice and fast with the stock charger, which is likely the same as the G2 charger since they share most of the same hardware. But that doesn't help with car charging or those of us who've consolidated into multi-port chargers.
When I get home I'm going to mix and match some cables and devices and try to narrow in a bit more. This sounds like the Nexus 7 (2012) goose chase all over again.

The USB/AC detection is done with a definied resistance. Some chargers don't meet those exact resistances (cheap resistors have a big tolerance) -> the phone detects it as USB.
The cable can make big difference, I've tested several different cables on the N4 once, charging rate was between 600mA and ~1100mA (which should be the max) on the same charger.
Maybe the resistance in the charger is right inside the resistance tolerance, so the slight difference in resistance between the cables is enough.
Since the N4 most probably uses a different charge IC than the N5 (I haven't checked tho), it could be that the N4 had a wider tolerance than the N5.
What should help are those charge cables , the one I'm using from Porta Pow can only be used for charging therefore ignoring the charger resistance -> phone should always detect it as AC(even on a PC). Another good thing about those cables is the big wire diameter. Or a kernel where you can force AC charging regardless of the actual source.("fast charge")

That all sounds pretty logical. Considering I got much better results with the Monoprice premium cables I used last night (which oddly, are much THINNER than the cheaper ones), I'm going to experiment with those this evening and see if that makes all the difference.
As for kernels, I'm not planning to root this one if I can help it. I managed to get through the life of my 4 without rooting, too. I know it's heresy on XDA not to root, and until I got Nexus devices I would have agreed. But since stock Jelly Bean I haven't felt that burning need to "take back" control of my phone. I seem to already have plenty.

I observed the same inconsistencies with the N5's charging behavior and did some qualitative tests. I've attached a screenshot with my findings.
The phone is clearly capable of charging rapidly. My primary focus is getting a high current off the car charger. Is there a way to force AC charging mode vs. USB charging, or should I focus on more quality cables / adapters?

Just did some additional testing of my own and found some interesting results. I didn't take perfect notes, but here's what I got:
With the Monoprice 4-port Wall Charger 2.1A 8856:
Cheap Monoprice cable: bad charging, fluctuating between -80A and 200A.
Cheap unknown cable: same as above.
Monoprice premium 3ft cable: 900-1200A.
Monoprice premium 6ft cable: 700-900A.
With the Monoprice 1A car charger 6765:
Bad charging with all cables tried.
With the Monoprice 2.1A car charger 8858:
Bad charging with all cables tried, with exception of Monoprice premium 3ft cable which had same low end, but occasionally bumped over 300A.
With 3.1 (split between two ports) charger purchased on Amazon (my standby for my Nexus 4:
Bad charging with all cables tried.
With Monoprice 2-port USB Car Charger 3.1A 10071:
Cheap Monoprice cable: Bad charging
Cheap unknown cable: Bad charging
Monoprice premium 3ft cable: 700-900A
So it looks like high-end Monoprice paired with high-end Monoprice pays off. Unfortunately there's a rather serious catch with model 10071: it KILLS GPS. At least it did on my Nexus 4, and other reviews reported it as well. I can't be certain yet about it on the 5, but the little experimenting I did in the parking lot showed some anomalies I didn't like. Which means I apparently get to choose between GPS killing my battery, or charging my battery killing my GPS.
Also tried Nexus 7 2012 charger with its own cable and got bad charging, too.

TurboFool said:
Just did some additional testing of my own and found some interesting results. I didn't take perfect notes, but here's what I got:
With the Monoprice 4-port Wall Charger 2.1A 8856:
Cheap Monoprice cable: bad charging, fluctuating between -80A and 200A.
Cheap unknown cable: same as above.
Monoprice premium 3ft cable: 900-1200A.
Monoprice premium 6ft cable: 700-900A.
With the Monoprice 1A car charger 6765:
Bad charging with all cables tried.
With the Monoprice 2.1A car charger 8858:
Bad charging with all cables tried, with exception of Monoprice premium 3ft cable which had same low end, but occasionally bumped over 300A.
With 3.1 (split between two ports) charger purchased on Amazon (my standby for my Nexus 4:
Bad charging with all cables tried.
With Monoprice 2-port USB Car Charger 3.1A 10071:
Cheap Monoprice cable: Bad charging
Cheap unknown cable: Bad charging
Monoprice premium 3ft cable: 700-900A
So it looks like high-end Monoprice paired with high-end Monoprice pays off. Unfortunately there's a rather serious catch with model 10071: it KILLS GPS. At least it did on my Nexus 4, and other reviews reported it as well. I can't be certain yet about it on the 5, but the little experimenting I did in the parking lot showed some anomalies I didn't like. Which means I apparently get to choose between GPS killing my battery, or charging my battery killing my GPS.
Also tried Nexus 7 2012 charger with its own cable and got bad charging, too.
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There's a pattern obviously, the 6ft to 3ft drop seems high but is ok I guess.
I've never seen such a picky device when it comes down to charging, usually it just works as expected ^^
Have you tried your cables on the carger it came with ? Or the cable it came with on your other cargers ?
Is there something with "AWG" written on your cables ?
@random_dgp: Well you basically have 2 choices: get a kernel with (force) fast charge support (don't know if there is one yet) or get a charger/cable combo which works.
If you're planning on rooting your N5 anyway I would go for the kernel way I guess, since the charger and the cable are fine most probably, they just aren't in the specs the N5 requires.

maisi said:
There's a pattern obviously, the 6ft to 3ft drop seems high but is ok I guess.
I've never seen such a picky device when it comes down to charging, usually it just works as expected ^^
Have you tried your cables on the carger it came with ? Or the cable it came with on your other cargers ?
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The first-gen Nexus 7 was at least this bad. Actually its biggest problem was it refused to even ADMIT it was charging (even though it was) off of most devices. In fact everything I just listed it would claim wasn't even connected to it. A few hours later it was full, but it refused to recognize it. 4.2 fixed that, but it was still slow off of most devices. This at least admits it's being charged, but barely is.
And no, I haven't tried the stock charger yet. I guess I will, but it's not a high priority since it doesn't cover my issues.

TurboFool said:
One of the things I loved most about my Nexus 4 was just how quickly it charged. And unlike my SGSII before it, it could even gain a charge while being actively used for Waze. Really great.
With the 5 I'm back to where I was. And thanks to tools I picked up during the 4, I'm able to see why more easily. Seems on the exact same chargers I used my 4 on, I'm easily pulling 400+mA less than the 4 did from the same device and same cable.
I haven't had time to draw a correlation yet, but last night at home on a multi-out adapter from Monoprice I was able to pull over 1200mA which is more than I've ever seen ANY of my devices pull before. But today, on the same model at my office, but with a different cable, I'm pulling around 200mA. Same as what I was getting in my car, which would frequently dip into the negatives, and that was WITHOUT Waze running. Also of note, in ALL of these locations it's being listed as "USB plugged" instead of "AC plugged." I'd say that accounts for the difference there, but the 1200mA draw was listed the same way, so I doubt it.
So, has anyone else noticed this yet and found any correlations between devices, cables, etc., so we can figure this out? Using more power than it takes in will not be something I can survive with and will definitely make this phone a less-than-ideal upgrade over the 4 in the battery life department. But it's pretty clear it's not impossible to get a good charge.
(and yes, before anyone asks, all of my adapters have jacks with a minimum of 1A out, and each also has a 2.1A port. Surprisingly, unlike my 4 which tended to draw LESS power from the 2.1A port, the 5 appears to be unconcerned by the difference, pulling the same poor number from both)
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OOC what sort of dmm/ammeter are you using to measure this?

TurboFool said:
One of the things I loved most about my Nexus 4 was just how quickly it charged
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i dont know if you're making this up, or if i have a defective nexus 4 lol
before i optimized my N4 i was getting about 4-5 hours of screen time, but it took at least 3 full hours to charge. that charge time to usage time ratio was killing me.
i am having much much much better results with my N5. i have no reason to charge it through a USB port on the computer(are you using an USB 1.0 port or something?), but charging it with the charger that it came with, i get a full charge in about 2 hours.
my N5 will charge a tiny bit over 1% per minute(while on or off), until it gets to 80% and then it charges at about .5% per minute or something
if you're getting the same charge times on the wall charger then i think you might have a defective charger/device. testing this will also be a good way to find out if it's just a slow usb port too

TurboFool said:
The first-gen Nexus 7 was at least this bad. Actually its biggest problem was it refused to even ADMIT it was charging (even though it was) off of most devices. In fact everything I just listed it would claim wasn't even connected to it. A few hours later it was full, but it refused to recognize it. 4.2 fixed that, but it was still slow off of most devices. This at least admits it's being charged, but barely is.
And no, I haven't tried the stock charger yet. I guess I will, but it's not a high priority since it doesn't cover my issues.
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Oh that's bad , I didn't know that!
Would just be the "reference test" since the stock charger should meet all the specs (and works fine here with every cable).
@cutterjohn: "Currentwidget" can display those values.
Enddo said:
i am having much much much better results with my N5. i have no reason to charge it through a USB port on the computer(are you using an USB 1.0 port or something?), but charging it with the charger that it came with, i get a full charge in about 2 hours.
my N5 will charge a tiny bit over 1% per minute(while on or off), until it gets to 80% and then it charges at about .5% per minute or something
if you're getting the same charge times on the wall charger then i think you might have a defective charger/device. testing this will also be a good way to find out if it's just a slow usb port too
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The problem he's having isn't about a computer USB port at all, the problem is that the N5 thinks it's plugged in a computer and limits the current to 500mA to meet the USB specs (and don't blow up some usb ports without a fuse somewhere) but in reality it's plugged in a wall charger.
His phone should be fine since it's working as expected on some carger/cable combos.
Btw. the N5 isn't pulling more current than the N4(both 1,2A), so it should charge almost exactly as fast/slow as the N4. It should even be a bit slower since the battery is slightly bigger I think.

cutterjohn said:
OOC what sort of dmm/ammeter are you using to measure this?
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I'm simply using the app Battery Monitor Widget. Really handy tool that solved some problems for me on the 4 with some weird charging situations. While I'm sure it's not insanely precise, it reflects my draining or charging rate well enough to show me what's going on.
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before i optimized my N4 i was getting about 4-5 hours of screen time, but it took at least 3 full hours to charge. that charge time to usage time ratio was killing me.
i am having much much much better results with my N5. i have no reason to charge it through a USB port on the computer(are you using an USB 1.0 port or something?), but charging it with the charger that it came with, i get a full charge in about 2 hours.
my N5 will charge a tiny bit over 1% per minute(while on or off), until it gets to 80% and then it charges at about .5% per minute or something
if you're getting the same charge times on the wall charger then i think you might have a defective charger/device. testing this will also be a good way to find out if it's just a slow usb port too
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I think you're missing the fact that I'm comparing it directly to how well these same devices charged the 4. So they're clearly not defective so much as the 5's requirements have changed completely. And USB 1.0 (I think you mean 1.1) isn't relevant here, as I'm not charging off a computer, I'm charging off a wall and/or car adapter. But sounds like we had very different experiences with the 4. I could charge my 4 off my Monoprice pocket battery in crazy fast time, and my phone was always full by the time I reached my destination in the car, even with Waze running (once I figured out I couldn't use the long cable I was using initially).
maisi said:
Oh that's bad , I didn't know that!
Would just be the "reference test" since the stock charger should meet all the specs (and works fine here with every cable).
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Absolutely. A control of sorts. Might as well.
Btw. the N5 isn't pulling more current than the N4(both 1,2A), so it should charge almost exactly as fast/slow as the N4. It should even be a bit slower since the battery is slightly bigger I think.
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Exactly. That's why I was surprised. There's no way it SHOULD be this much slower. Yes, I can see percentage adjusting slightly for the larger battery, but that's why I'm going by mA input instead, and my 4 was getting WAY better in the car. Although I don't think it ever got the 1.2 I'm getting with the Monoprice wall combo, so THAT's impressive. Now if I can just get that in my car without the RF interference and I can call it a day.

maisi said:
@cutterjohn: "Currentwidget" can display those values.
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Well then your either have defective hardware or currentwidget just doesn't work. As I inferred hard to tell w/o proper tools.
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Oops, multiple responses and replied to incorrect one, but really if your recharge rate is that much lower v. n4 I'd say that your chargers or n5 are defective. It's going to take longer to charge the n5 obviously, and I have no idea what the max draw either can achieve as I've been strictly using inductive charging w/max 1A supply(as per Qi spec)... n5 takes longer to charge than n4, but thats to be expected by batt cap(and wear(decreased cap) of n4 batt)...
Subjectively, the n5 takes longer to charge, but not that much longer that I've noticed, again batt cap, etc. so...
Both USB/AC adapter chargers I know supply a max of 1.2A...
...(from last so) ask for a replacement n5, after they've been replacing them for a single dead pixel...
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My n5 charging real fast fatter t than my n4!
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Well then your either have defective hardware or currentwidget just doesn't work. As I inferred hard to tell w/o proper tools.
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Neither I think, we don't need any mA values to see that something is wrong, android is telling us that it thinks that it's connected to a usb port while it isn't.
Of course if we would want to measure exact mA values we would need a different equipment, for cable comparisions in order to see a tendency, the values from the charge IC should be good enough.(IMO)
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Oops, multiple responses and replied to incorrect one, but really if your recharge rate is that much lower v. n4 I'd say that your chargers or n5 are defective. It's going to take longer to charge the n5 obviously, and I have no idea what the max draw either can achieve as I've been strictly using inductive charging w/max 1A supply(as per Qi spec)... n5 takes longer to charge than n4, but thats to be expected by batt cap(and wear(decreased cap) of n4 batt)...
Subjectively, the n5 takes longer to charge, but not that much longer that I've noticed, again batt cap, etc. so...
Both USB/AC adapter chargers I know supply a max of 1.2A...
...(from last so) ask for a replacement n5, after they've been replacing them for a single dead pixel...
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Just saw your edit ^^
Well it looks like the N5 has a very low tolerance for AC/USB detection, I'm sure that neither his chargers or Phone are defective, the chargers just aren't 100%in the spec which is obviously enough. I'm sure that the stock charger would be fine.

cutterjohn said:
Well then your either have defective hardware or currentwidget just doesn't work. As I inferred hard to tell w/o proper tools.
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Oops, multiple responses and replied to incorrect one, but really if your recharge rate is that much lower v. n4 I'd say that your chargers or n5 are defective. It's going to take longer to charge the n5 obviously, and I have no idea what the max draw either can achieve as I've been strictly using inductive charging w/max 1A supply(as per Qi spec)... n5 takes longer to charge than n4, but thats to be expected by batt cap(and wear(decreased cap) of n4 batt)...
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Clearly neither is the case from my testing. The N5 charges beautifully off of the right combination of chargers, and all of those chargers charged the N4 beautifully. Neither is defective, but the N5 apparently has a different tolerance requirement than the N4.
Really, as opposed to anything being defective, it sounds more like a design flaw in the N5. It's WAY too picky about its power sources.

Mine charged REALLY slow the first day and that night. It also drained really quickly during that same time. I am now on my third day and it has long battery life plus it charged about 20% in 30 minutes on a car charger. Seems quicker than my S3.

honor 8 catches fire

I'm driving down the road in my truck today. I start smelling something burning. I look around to see what it is. The USB cable melted in half. Took some of the charging port with it.
Almost all the pins are exposed. It still charges but I'm not sure for how long.
What should I do?
I guess I'm going to send it in to get fixed. The phones may be a month old. I've used that charging adapter plenty of times and never had a problem.
What's the type C cable just bad?

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I'm driving down the road in my truck today. I start smelling something burning. I look around to see what it is. The USB cable melted in half. Took some of the charging port with it.
Almost all the pins are exposed. It still charges but I'm not sure for how long.
What should I do?
I guess I'm going to send it in to get fixed. The phones may be a month old. I've used that charging adapter plenty of times and never had a problem.
What's the type C cable just bad?
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Although USB-C is a more convenient standard, it's also extremely finicky if you use cheap cables. If the cable burned out then chances are there was more current going through it than it could handle.
A good read about USB-C:
https://www.xda-developers.com/138824-2/

I don't get why they don't just publish a set of certification rules for USB Type-C already, or stop companies from using USB Type-C if it's still in the development stage.

raven.warsong said:
I'm driving down the road in my truck today. I start smelling something burning. I look around to see what it is. The USB cable melted in half. Took some of the charging port with it.
Almost all the pins are exposed. It still charges but I'm not sure for how long.
What should I do?
I guess I'm going to send it in to get fixed. The phones may be a month old. I've used that charging adapter plenty of times and never had a problem.
What's the type C cable just bad?
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It's probably because voltage via lighter adapter is much different