For developers: Exynos vs Qualcomm - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

I am planning to buy a phone soon and although I'm not a developer (yet), I would like to try things such as making a custom rom, making my own android apps, etc.
I know Nexus phones are popular among developers but I just don't like the latest nexus phone and it's not cheap anymore. I am rooting for the Samsung Galaxy S7 just because it's popular, and some other features I like.
I found that there are two CPUs to choose from: Exynos and Qualcomm. Exynos version seems to be cheaper for the same memory. Does it matter if the processor is Exynos or Qualcomm if I want to become a developer?
Another phone I'm looking into is the Asus Zenphone 3 Deluxe. Its CPU is Qualcomm and the price is the same as the Exynos version of Samsung S7. Though my first choice really is Samsung.
Thanks!

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Dual core CPU devices coming?When?

Hi guys!
We've all been hearing all this stuff about dual-core CPUs like Qualcomm's QSD8672 @1,5GHz,or the single-core OMAP 4xxx @2GHz etc,right?The question is,will we see those devices soon enough?I mean,if they come out some time around christmas it's worth waiting(although they may cost something too much).However all the new devices that we see coming out,like HTC Ace or Schubert,have the well-known Snapdragon QSD8250/8650 @1GHz,with its crappy GPU and its not so powerful CPU(compared to Samsung's Hummingbird).Any clues yet on when we'll see those devices that will change what high-end means?
My guess (which is based solely on a hunch) is that that such devices would be announced together with Android 3.0, so that companies can advertise it as 'the next generation'.
Well,although not based on facts,your hunch gives a pretty possible image of how things will work...

A possible Source for exynos files?

Hey guys,
just thought bout the good old exynos 4 chipset and got reminded about the nexus 10, that uses an exynos 5 chipset.
So here my though, if there are enough similarities between exynos 4 and 5, why not use some source code (e.g. for graphics, since its still mali graphics) and implent it into cm10.1? If we finally could achieve some breaktroughs on one exynos device, every other would also make profit of this, like galaxy s2, s3, note 2, note and many other devices.
If someone is good enough at coding, give a try, cause sammy still havent hand out all the necessery files, to make cm run fluid on the exynos platform.
cheers

[PORTING DISCUSSION] Cherry picks from Exynos based devices on SGS4

Hi,
Everyone is shouting, we will not support Galaxy S4 (I9500) since it is having Exynos which lacks the documentation and sources. Yes, I know that sucks. I would say, we are not really getting super awesome ROMs like CM, MIUI anytime soon. But how if we think differently?
There are many Exynos based devices which have got pretty stable builds of CM and MIUI (e.g. Note 2).. Even Nexus 10 is based on Exynos.
Well, I am not that good but learning to port stuff from here and there.. How if we pick up some of the sources from Exynos devices like Nexus 10, Note 2 etc. and make them work on SGS4?
World will be beautiful again, isn't it?
I might be totally wrong so I expect you to explain stuff rather than ranting over this thread Let's help each other.. What say?
Regards,
Rahul Patil. :good:
It would be incredibly difficult and in my opinion, not worth the effort.
The Nexus 10 utilises Exynos 5250 while the Note 2 uses Exynos 4***(I forgot, 4410,I think), the S4 i9500 uses Exynos 5410 which is different as you can see.
However, some developers will doubtlessly pick up development for the Exynos variant (Faryaab already has an unofficial cm build for the i9500).
For all that effort, cm on the i9500 shall never be as stable and functional as that on the Snapdragon variants.
Well, yes.. Unless and until Samsung releases Exynos documentation and sources. Well, I don't know if there is any chance of getting documents. At least Samsung Exynos replied to one of my tweets regarding releasing sources. They said, they are working on licensing stuff and it should be resolved soon. But you know, their "soon" can be like 2-3 years more too.
warfareonly said:
It would be incredibly difficult and in my opinion, not worth the effort.
The Nexus 10 utilises Exynos 5250 while the Note 2 uses Exynos 4***(I forgot, 4410,I think), the S4 i9500 uses Exynos 5410 which is different as you can see.
However, some developers will doubtlessly pick up development for the Exynos variant (Faryaab already has an unofficial cm build for the i9500).
For all that effort, cm on the i9500 shall never be as stable and functional as that on the Snapdragon variants.
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Intl GS2 and Note1 are Exynos 4210
Intl GS3 and Note2 are Exynos 4412
Nexus 10 is Exynos 5250 - Mali T604 GPU
I9500 is Exynos 5410 - PowerVR GPU and MANY other differences from the 5250
In short, almost none of the Exynos4 stuff is useful, and most likely neither is most of the Nexus10 stuff
Entropy512 said:
Intl GS2 and Note1 are Exynos 4210
Intl GS3 and Note2 are Exynos 4412
Nexus 10 is Exynos 5250 - Mali T604 GPU
I9500 is Exynos 5410 - PowerVR GPU and MANY other differences from the 5250
In short, almost none of the Exynos4 stuff is useful, and most likely neither is most of the Nexus10 stuff
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A vast majority of IP blocks are the same as on the 5250 so there is a lot one can pick from there.
Stupid question; weren't most of the CM problems related with the 2D accelerator and not the GPU itself?
@Rahulrulez any status update on the porting?
vinandy said:
@Rahulrulez any status update on the porting?
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cm team has officially announced that they have started working on cm10.1 for 9500 and they have a device in hand, who is handling the work and when will we see a flashable version in unknown

Future Proof & Gaming

I have seen on older videos on internet, that S820(HTC 10,LG G5) outclasses the Exynos 8890. But i have seen Exynos 8890 doing wonders on Vulkan.
And how about Future proof? When Samsung stop releasing softwares for S7 in 1-2years, is there any way to get tot the newer android, knowing that we dont have CM14?
So should i switch my S7 for a S820 Device for gaming and future proof?
Upp
Dont worry about it, you will just get a new phone.
RootNightmareX said:
I have seen on older videos on internet, that S820(HTC 10,LG G5) outclasses the Exynos 8890. But i have seen Exynos 8890 doing wonders on Vulkan.
And how about Future proof? When Samsung stop releasing softwares for S7 in 1-2years, is there any way to get tot the newer android, knowing that we dont have CM14?
So should i switch my S7 for a S820 Device for gaming and future proof?
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>knowing that we don't have CM14
now that's where you're wrong:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s7-t3529197
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/rom-s7-exynose-project-t3526976
Anyway, the 8890 is a great processor and in daily usage it outperforms the SD820
obongo said:
>knowing that we don't have CM14
now that's where you're wrong:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s7-t3529197
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/rom-s7-exynose-project-t3526976
Anyway, the 8890 is a great processor and in daily usage it outperforms the SD820
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But s820 is better for gaming?
I mean official support. Is there any s820 devicevi
that has official support for lineage os? Excluding oneplus 3?
ill tell you one i know for sure: samsung phone & future proof are not going together. happy new year!
lekou said:
ill tell you one i know for sure: samsung phone & future proof are not going together. happy new year!
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And the only way that does 2 things go together is as i thought a NEXUS (but even nexus has a lot of problems with hardware problems even though on software it rocks) ?

Any new Exynos tablets?

Are any more Exynos tablets being produced? Seems like everybody has switched to Qualcomm.

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