Hi,
As I have no need for Dual-SIM functionality,
I would like to install the Single-SIM Official ROM on my G930FD.
Will it even work? Will I trip Knox?
Thx in advance.
Up! I'm interested too!
Does not trip knox, but dual sim capability is also in the F rom.
However I can't activate my knox, it says custom os was installed before. I read on forums several people had this problem, and usually a factory reset fixes it, but I did not tried yet. (maybe it has nothing to do with installing the F rom, but using odin.
gterminal said:
Does not trip knox, but dual sim capability is also in the F rom.
However I can't activate my knox, it says custom os was installed before. I read on forums several people had this problem, and usually a factory reset fixes it, but I did not tried yet. (maybe it has nothing to do with installing the F rom, but using odin.
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Thanks for the reply. If not for disabling Dual-SIM, what are the benefits of the F ROM?
gterminal said:
Does not trip knox, but dual sim capability is also in the F rom.
However I can't activate my knox, it says custom os was installed before. I read on forums several people had this problem, and usually a factory reset fixes it, but I did not tried yet. (maybe it has nothing to do with installing the F rom, but using odin.
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I have an FD and samsung pay and my knox works just fine on the XSG csc. Maybe it's because you have been rooted?
lordgavers said:
Thanks for the reply. If not for disabling Dual-SIM, what are the benefits of the F ROM?
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Samsung pay is the big one. Also newest updates. Dual SIM shows up in settings, so I assume it works just fine. I tried it once, but didn't really "live with it" to have any experience with it.
xxhorseriderxxx said:
I have an FD and samsung pay and my knox works just fine on the XSG csc. Maybe it's because you have been rooted?
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I did not root. Is it possible to root without tripping knox?
But I have a feeling I made a mistake by flashing only the AP file and skipping BL, CP, CSC.
I will have to start flashing again
gterminal said:
I did not root. Is it possible to root without tripping knox?
But I have a feeling I made a mistake by flashing only the AP file and skipping BL, CP, CSC.
I will have to start flashing again
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Yeah that's why. You have the flash the entire firmware if I understand correctly. And you can root without tripping knox, but I don't think there is a way to defeat the authentication mechanism and use rooted apps and knox/pay apps while rooted.
xxhorseriderxxx said:
Yeah that's why. You have the flash the entire firmware if I understand correctly.
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Yes, flashing again with all the files solved the issue.
And you can root without tripping knox
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Could you link the method please?
but I don't think there is a way to defeat the authentication mechanism and use rooted apps and knox/pay apps while rooted.
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That's OK, I want to root more than using my knox.
When using Odin to flash a G930F stock rom and changing to a european CSC - did you check Re-Partition or not?
And even before that - was it necessary for you to enable USB Debugging and/or OEM Unlocking?
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Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
XxLordxX said:
Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
jetbruceli said:
Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)
I have Sprint G925PVPU3BOI1 5.1.1 and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to root this phone. Does pingpong method actually work on this model? If not will other methods trip the knox thing and if it does will that only mean I won't get OTA updates or are there other disadvantages of tripping knox?
Thanks for the help
icekube187 said:
I have Sprint G925PVPU3BOI1 5.1.1 and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to root this phone. Does pingpong method actually work on this model? If not will other methods trip the knox thing and if it does will that only mean I won't get OTA updates or are there other disadvantages of tripping knox?
Thanks for the help
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You can not root anymore with ping pong root. That only works on early firmware. Only disadvantages of tripping knox is that you won't be able to use Samsung pay if that matters, and it voids your Samsung warranty, meaning if something goes wrong Samsung won't touch it; however, your carrier will.
Thank you for the prompt information. With that being said is the process to root the model phone I have + 5.1.1 is to download odin put phone in d/l mode,use odin to flash with twrp and then flash rom, and then I can feel the joy or am I leaving out a step? is is correct where can I find the correct version of Odin and twrp, I've seen reference to it on this e but get a little confused about which file is correct for my model.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me
icekube187 said:
Thank you for the prompt information. With that being said is the process to root the model phone I have + 5.1.1 is to download odin put phone in d/l mode,use odin to flash with twrp and then flash rom, and then I can feel the joy or am I leaving out a step? is is correct where can I find the correct version of Odin and twrp, I've seen reference to it on this e but get a little confused about which file is correct for my model.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me
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You must first root before you can install TWRP. There is a rooted kernel that you can use through Odin. Here is my thread with TWRP and the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3102034
Here is Odin:
https://mega.nz/#!SkoGRSjR!JYA62GV9w0rSvsqAYsl_mXZRU6BgnMdkM3Xuc9E7YuM
Thanks for info and the links
icekube187 said:
Thanks for info and the links
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No problem
I want to root my S6 but I know nothing about rooting and such. I've tried towelroot, kingroot and pingpong but none of them seem to support my device.
It's model nr SM-G920F and the build number is MMB29K.G20FXXS3DPD3. I'd like to root it without triggering knox if possible, if it's not tell me what not to do as to avoid bricking it.
It's 6.0.1 Marshmallow
Sorry if this noobish of me to ask but I can't find any tuts with which I feel secure rooting, thanks!
eye_lf said:
I want to root my S6 but I know nothing about rooting and such. I've tried towelroot, kingroot and pingpong but none of them seem to support my device.
It's model nr SM-G920F and the build number is MMB29K.G20FXXS3DPD3. I'd like to root it without triggering knox if possible, if it's not tell me what not to do as to avoid bricking it.
It's 6.0.1 Marshmallow
Sorry if this noobish of me to ask but I can't find any tuts with which I feel secure rooting, thanks!
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You cant root without tripping knox cf auto root is your only choice i believe
xstokerx said:
You cant root without tripping knox cf auto root is your only choice i believe
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This will still trip knox right? At least that what their website says.
Jhayzt said:
This will still trip knox right? At least that what their website says.
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Yep
xstokerx said:
You cant root without tripping knox cf auto root is your only choice i believe
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I think CF auto root also doesn't support my device
eye_lf said:
I think CF auto root also doesn't support my device
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Yes it does. I rooted it yesterday. But be careful with TWRP,
"recovery is not seandroid enforcing" may appear on boot, and u may experience a bootloop.
Keep a stock official rom in your pc, in case u want to recover. Use Odin
bigkusi said:
Yes it does. I rooted it yesterday. But be careful with TWRP,
"recovery is not seandroid enforcing" may appear on boot, and u may experience a bootloop.
Keep a stock official rom in your pc, in case u want to recover. Use Odin
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Would you mind adding me on skype, I'm still having trouble understanding this
This tuesday Bixby voice got released with English language. Unfortunately it got only released in United States. So here's a guide how to get it to work on your S8/S8+ (It may also work on ported devices but i did not test.)
Update all the Bixby apps from apkmirror. The names of the apps are:
* Bixby Global Action
* Bixby Home
* Bixby Service
* Bixby Voice
* Samsung Voice Input
* Voice wake-up
Always make sure you have back-up before flashing anything!
Then you need to change your CSC to a USA one. I recommend using the XAA csc
The easiest way to do that on S8/S8+ is by using Flashable CSC Selection V1.1.0 from @Tkkg1994.
After the device booted you need to clear the data of all apps that you just updated. Then press the Bixby button and follow the setup.
Enjoy! Or not, your choice.
3th party apps aren't working yet. Because you can't update the plugins.
Will flashing a new CSC require a factory reset?
Will it work on stock roms?????
Will at trip Knox???
Yes it will trip knox i guess
No it does not. You can change csc at any time.
death365 said:
Will it work on stock roms?????
Will at trip Knox???
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You will need custom recovery to change CSC so yes jt trips knox.
Just tried it. Updated everything Bixby related, cleared Data and then flashed XAA CSC.
Works fine, big thanks!
Can you confirm if it tripped your knox
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Can you confirm if it tripped your knox
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Knox will get tripped after you flashed TWRP or any other custom recovery.
Yes it wil trip. But if you use a custom rom that is deknoxed (almost all of them) there isn't a problem.
I just want all apps ie banking . Samsung pat to work after words. Dont really carte for knoxed trip
And what if we flash our own firmware with a csc from an US firmware with odin? Will this work? Don't want to trip knox
And on another note... What 3rd party apps dont work
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Can you confirm if it tripped your knox
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pernodpepper said:
Knox will get tripped after you flashed TWRP or any other custom recovery.
Yes it wil trip. But if you use a custom rom that is deknoxed (almost all of them) there isn't a problem.
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Yeah, this. My Knox was already tripped since I flashed TWRP. My ROM fixes that by spoofing a 0x0 KNOX, but AFAIK Samsung Pay will still not work.
Control- said:
And on another note... What 3rd party apps dont work
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There is some sort of update required to get 3th party apps working. For now only Samsung apps work with Bixby.
MiePx3 said:
Yeah, this. My Knox was already tripped since I flashed TWRP. My ROM fixes that by spoofing a 0x0 KNOX, but AFAIK Samsung Pay will still not work.
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You need more than the 0x0 spoof.
I actually don't know if you need the right CSC for Samsung Pay. However, i found this post for you so at least you could try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-pay-knox-warranty-void-t3549449
Bart3n said:
And what if we flash our own firmware with a csc from an US firmware with odin? Will this work? Don't want to trip knox
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As far i've found on the web it won't trip your knox. As long as you don't root or flash custum recovery.
But flashing à europe s8+ to a US csc ? Possible
pernodpepper said:
As far i've found on the web it won't trip your knox. As long as you don't root or flash custum recovery.
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Oh, I dont use it anyway, I just wanted to make sure there is no misunderstanding.
Control- said:
But flashing à europe s8+ to a US csc ? Possible
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I did this with my S8. I had DBT (germany, unbranded) installed and just flashed XAA (USA, unbranded).
So yes, it is possible.
MiePx3 said:
Oh, I dont use it anyway, I just wanted to make sure there is no misunderstanding.
I did this with my S8. I had DBT (germany, unbranded) installed and just flashed XAA (USA, unbranded).
So yes, it is possible.
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Does Bixby work
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Does Bixby work
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Yes, works just fine. Just be aware of the fact that Voice is only available in english.
Okay so my device is Galaxy S7 and I had it rooted and running LineageOS for a few days. Because of security, I decided to install stock firmware using Odin. This runs well as stock. Play store and phone info sata this is certified and official software. SafetyNet gets everything passed and says no root. But still my Samsung apps cant run, since they think this is rooted... What to do? Can there be some files left?
Henubenu said:
Okay so my device is Galaxy S7 and I had it rooted and running LineageOS for a few days. Because of security, I decided to install stock firmware using Odin. This runs well as stock. Play store and phone info sata this is certified and official software. SafetyNet gets everything passed and says no root. But still my Samsung apps cant run, since they think this is rooted... What to do? Can there be some files left?
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What country / region ?
What firmware? 7.0? 8.0?
Where did you get the firmware?
Did you flash with Odin?
Henubenu said:
Okay so my device is Galaxy S7 and I had it rooted and running LineageOS for a few days. Because of security, I decided to install stock firmware using Odin. This runs well as stock. Play store and phone info sata this is certified and official software. SafetyNet gets everything passed and says no root. But still my Samsung apps cant run, since they think this is rooted... What to do? Can there be some files left?
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After rooting your phone warranty will be set to 1.
You can check by going to download mode and reading the property : Warranty void
If its a 1 you can never use these apps again for security reasons
kpwnApps said:
After rooting your phone warranty will be set to 1.
You can check by going to download mode and reading the property : Warranty void
If its a 1 you can never use these apps again for security reasons
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This isn't correct, once you flash back to stock with Odin the security is restored. The knox counter trip means the warranty is void because the phone had been rooted etc
cooltt said:
This isn't correct, once you flash back to stock with Odin the security is restored. The knox counter trip means the warranty is void because the phone had been rooted etc
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Yes it is. The apps dont check the status of your phone they check ro.boot.warranty_bit
cooltt said:
What country / region ?
What firmware? 7.0? 8.0?
Where did you get the firmware?
Did you flash with Odin?
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I downloaded the nordic country most recent one. So I guess its 8.0... And got recommendations for SamMobile. And yes, I used Odin to flash this firmware.
kpwnApps said:
Yes it is. The apps dont check the status of your phone they check ro.boot.warranty_bit
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Is there a way to modify that?
Henubenu said:
Is there a way to modify that?
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Yes, but ask @kpwnApps because clearly he knows more than anyone else on the forum. We're all too stupid.
Henubenu said:
Is there a way to modify that?
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You cannot modify that anymore you need to replace your mainboard