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I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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Great site and forum you guys have here. I've been lurking in the background for about a month now since converting to Android from Crackberry, studying as much as possible about rooting my new Skyrocket.
I've narrowed down the method that I'll be using shortly to the 3 subject options, and was just wondering, what you recommend and why? I've also watched videos on each, and they all seem like they work and I can handle the task. But I want to avoid tripping the flash counter or getting myself in other more complicated trouble that I'd need your help with.
My plan is to root, flash CWM, do a Nandroid backup, then just freeze some things up using Titanium Backup to start. I think I said that right. Maybe not. But that's the plan for now, without new ROMs or kernels. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, and I apologize for the rookie questions. Again, great forum.
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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pls4ms said:
Great site and forum you guys have here. I've been lurking in the background for about a month now since converting to Android from Crackberry, studying as much as possible about rooting my new Skyrocket.
I've narrowed down the method that I'll be using shortly to the 3 subject options, and was just wondering, what you recommend and why? I've also watched videos on each, and they all seem like they work and I can handle the task. But I want to avoid tripping the flash counter or getting myself in other more complicated trouble that I'd need your help with.
My plan is to root, flash CWM, do a Nandroid backup, then just freeze some things up using Titanium Backup to start. I think I said that right. Maybe not. But that's the plan for now, without new ROMs or kernels. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, and I apologize for the rookie questions. Again, great forum.
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I'm no expert but when I updated from 2.3.5 to 2.3.6 using S.O.C was no longer an option. I had to use the all power ODIN. link
But I suggest reading, googling, and rereading steps until you're confident of what to do without guessing if you're doing it right or not.
BTW, don't discount ROMs, they will make you love your phone more than you thought possible. And with the initial Nandroid bup you can always revert...
Good luck...
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I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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This^^^^ I use odin and only odin
After a few days of research and trying to figure out how not to trip the flash counter, this is the best way. Huge thumbs up for the suggestion!
Wow. That is really great information. Thank you! I had written off the Odin method, as it seemed a little complicated for a rookie like myself -- hence why it wasn't included in the subject options.
But after reading what you had to say, it makes complete sense. The Odin method is the only way to make a complete backup (using CWM) of my truly unrooted device, where the other methods, the mirror (backup) would be of a rooted device so a restore back to stock would be more difficult. Correct?
I just read all 20 pages of the link you supplied, and it seems I've got a pretty good understanding of what to do and what not to do. Will give it a whirl today and let you know. By the way, someone posted a video which talks about how the superuser.zip file is not necessary -- this is not true if you aren't putting on a new ROM. Which I am not. Just a heads up for anyone else out there looking at it. Thanks again man, you nailed it.
cdshepherd said:
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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A restore to stock wouldn't necessarily be any more complicated because we have odin files for that too. But it will trip your counter. Sometimes tripping the counter is unavoidable, I pretend like mine doesn't even exist. Let us know if you need any help
Remember to make the nandroid backup of stock unrooted before you flash the superuser.zip.
When you do flash the superuser zip, it might throw up an error and not flash, this is ok, happens to me everytime, just keep trying to install it and eventually she will take:thumbup:
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Perfect success! Couldn't have gone any better. From the driver installs, to the Odin launch, CWM backup, and finally the SU flash -- each step was flawless. It took 3 tries on the Superuser.zip file before it installed without errors, which was expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I just updated Superuser to the latest version, but now I'm seeing that Busybox seems to be an important add-on now that I'm rooted for some apps to work properly. Agreed? If so, is the popular version on Play the one to download?
Also, whats the best way for me to send the backup I just made from my phone to computer as you mentioned? Where is it located on phone? Thanks again. You've been a huge help, and I'm stoked to be part of the club -- maybe just a junior member still, but learning more each day.
cdshepherd said:
A restore to stock wouldn't necessarily be any more complicated because we have odin files for that too. But it will trip your counter. Sometimes tripping the counter is unavoidable, I pretend like mine doesn't even exist. Let us know if you need any help
Remember to make the nandroid backup of stock unrooted before you flash the superuser.zip.
When you do flash the superuser zip, it might throw up an error and not flash, this is ok, happens to me everytime, just keep trying to install it and eventually she will take:thumbup:
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The cwm backup will probably be on you external SD under clockworkmod>backup. If not on external use internal. Just mount USB storage on your computer. After you get the stock backup off your SD , boot back into recovery and make a backup of your rooted stock firmware if you already haven't. You want to always have atleast one nandroid on your SD in case boo boo's occur.
As for the busy box thing I'm not exactly sure. All I can say on that is if any app request you to update it just allow it to. Maybe try the market app you mentioned. I'm not entirely too sure. Also maybe consider flashing a rom. You'll have that rooted backup on your SD you can restore whenever you'd like.
Glad everything went well for you. That's a good example of what reading before attempting does. Good job
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Thanks again for the help and props. More success yesterday; moved the full stock ROM (unrooted) Nandroid to my computer, and then made another Nandroid of my rooted stock ROM. That too I put on the computer, but also left a copy my SD card.
Installed Titanium Backup Pro, and am now studying up on which .APK files I can safely freeze. Found a spreadsheet from the SG2 forum, and I'm guessing it's applicable for our device. Would post the link, but I'm not allowed to yet.
Lastly, I picked up the Nexus 2100 mah battery for which I'll be installing shortly as well. Starting to get more tuned up now, but you are right, once all this is complete I'll look at some custom ROM's as well. I guess freezing all of these files wouldn't really be necessary if I put on a new ROM anyway. Oh well. Baby steps.
samsung infuse
bought rooted Samsung infuse, but can not get my contacts.
At&t phone.
infuseal said:
bought rooted Samsung infuse, but can not get my contacts.
At&t phone.
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You just brought a year old thread back to life and your talking about an infuse which has nothing to do with the skyrocket. Search on the infuse topics.
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I'm asking for my girlfriend. I have the T-Mobile variant with a custom recovery and I know not to take an OTA because custom recoveries and OTAs don't mix. She, however, has an AT&T variant and she just told me she was prompted to update to Lollipop. She rooted long ago with whatever root for AT&T app was popular at the time.
Doesn't taking an OTA just make you lose root? Nothing else to worry about?
I would not recommend due to the chance it could boot loop. I would wait for a OTA zip and flash through TWRP.
If she is rooted it will break root, If she has a custom recovery (twrp) than it will cause a boot loop.
advice: if she wants lollipop she's gonna have to follow these steps.
http://www.androidrootz.com/2014/07/how-to-unroot-lg-g3-all-variants.html
Going to pass the link on to her now.
There is no custom recovery. She used Stump Root originally to get her phone route, if that makes any difference.
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I would not recommend due to the chance it could boot loop. I would wait for a OTA zip and flash through TWRP.
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Is there an ota zip available for the D850. I froze software updates in titanium backup so I won't loose root.
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Is there an ota zip available for the D850. I froze software updates in titanium backup so I won't loose root.
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You would still lose root
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Yep.. I went through the whole process of going completely back to stock and then rooted before updating to Lollipop hoping it would stay. It didn't and Stump Root says it's already rooted.
Thanks for this cool tool and method. The LGFlashtool gets up the 'Change to download mode' step adn then fails, with a '[16:10:26] can't change to download mode 00000064' error in the box. Any help would be appreciated. In the meantime I'll try another usb port. Also, when I first ran the Flashtool I had to select from three choices: the default checked off one had the word Korea in it, the second had Brazil and the third had the word Global. I left in on Korea--you think I should have gone with global?
Thanks again, Xamadiex.
Rayvin56 said:
Thanks for this cool tool and method. The LGFlashtool gets up the 'Change to download mode' step adn then fails, with a '[16:10:26] can't change to download mode 00000064' error in the box. Any help would be appreciated. In the meantime I'll try another usb port. Also, when I first ran the Flashtool I had to select from three choices: the default checked off one had the word Korea in it, the second had Brazil and the third had the word Global. I left in on Korea--you think I should have gone with global?
Thanks again, Xamadiex.
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I read somewhere the LG Flashtool had to be modified at installation to avoid what you are going through.
You're right, it's just a matter of overwriting the megalock.dll file after you install the tool. It was a step I didn't miss. But good news for me, I used another pc and when I installed the flashtool it again gave me the three choices (not sure, but the title bar of the window was something like 'DMB').
This time I chose the 'global' selection and ran the tool as before and it completed for me. I'm currently DL'ing the lollipop update right now. Thanks for the quick reply, netomel.
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I'm asking for my girlfriend. I have the T-Mobile variant with a custom recovery and I know not to take an OTA because custom recoveries and OTAs don't mix. She, however, has an AT&T variant and she just told me she was prompted to update to Lollipop. She rooted long ago with whatever root for AT&T app was popular at the time.
Doesn't taking an OTA just make you lose root? Nothing else to worry about?
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I just received my G3 for AT&T yesterday. It had 4.4.2 firmware on it. I rooted and installed titanium backup and froze all of the AT&T bloatware. Got notification last night that I had a system update available so I went ahead and let it update thinking it would be 4.4.4 but I was wrong. End result, I wound up with a perfectly functional Lollipop with all bloatware removed, but did lose root in the process. I can live with that until someone figures root for lollipop out I think.
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I just received my G3 for AT&T yesterday. It had 4.4.2 firmware on it. I rooted and installed titanium backup and froze all of the AT&T bloatware. Got notification last night that I had a system update available so I went ahead and let it update thinking it would be 4.4.4 but I was wrong. End result, I wound up with a perfectly functional Lollipop with all bloatware removed, but did lose root in the process. I can live with that until someone figures root for lollipop out I think.
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So it installed on your rooted G3? It wouldn't on mine - kept saying rooted device detected or something like that and then refuse to update. That's just fine because i have to have root so I was planning to wait anyway...
p0k3y said:
So it installed on your rooted G3? It wouldn't on mine - kept saying rooted device detected or something like that and then refuse to update.
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p0k3y said:
So it installed on your rooted G3? It wouldn't on mine - kept saying rooted device detected or something like that and then refuse to update. That's just fine because i have to have root so I was planning to wait anyway...
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Yes, it installed with no problems at all. And I must say that I am loving it. So glad that I froze all of those at&t apps before I lost root. I am looking forward to root for lollipop so that I can freeze a few more. I must say that this is the best stock android rom that I have ever had the pleasure of using. I will probably stick with it for quite some time because of the speed and excellent battery life.
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Hi iam very new on this forum . I got LGg3 AT&t version D85010f and i cannot upgrade to LOLIPOP always i have com that i have latest soft and need to wait 48h to next check ......plz help me
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Yes, it installed with no problems at all. And I must say that I am loving it. So glad that I froze all of those at&t apps before I lost root. I am looking forward to root for lollipop so that I can freeze a few more. I must say that this is the best stock android rom that I have ever had the pleasure of using. I will probably stick with it for quite some time because of the speed and excellent battery life.
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I call bull****. Lolipop OTA will NOT install on a rooted device. Humor me, what root method did you use?
Vess69 said:
I call bull****. Lolipop OTA will NOT install on a rooted device. Humor me, what root method did you use?
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Call Bull**** all you want, I don't lie. To be honest, I can't even remember what method I used to root when on KitKat. Then I used TiBu to freeze a bunch of apps that I didn't want or need. Shortly thereafter the update hit me so I went ahead and let it do its thing. As stated, I did lose root afterwards but the apps I had frozen with TiBu remained frozen and everything still worked as it should. I waited patiently for a few weeks until the one click root script became available and used it to root lollipop, then installed TWRP and flashed Cloudy G3 stock ROM which is where I am happily at at this moment.
It could possibly have successfully updated due to the fact that I had not installed a custom recovery, that's the only thing I can think of that would have allowed it to happen on mine, yet not on others that were rooted.
EDIT: After reading back through this thread it jogged my memory. I used the Stump Root method to root while on KitKat.
You'd be the first person reported to be able to do this.
It would be a boon to the AT&T G3 community if you could remember the precise details of how you pulled this off as it would save loads of time and hassle for everyone else who has to restore to KK (which means a full wipe), then take the OTA to L, then root there.
Thanks in advance.
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I think you're L is version 20f, not the latest 21l, based on the date of your posts above.
Further, I'd suppose that what may have happened to you, is that the deivce had already downloaded the L update (from 10f to 20f) before you pulled off the root on KitKat. Then you simply acknowledged the install, which perhaps KK would allow to continue through.
Reports are the L will not allow this. So, going forward, someone rooted on L would not be allowed to complete the install even if the package is already downloaded on the device.
Still, it is, interesting.
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
nafeasonto said:
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
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Your question has been asked by many people on multiple forums. Samsung's flagship is great as is, however the software has a few bugs that bother everyone which is why we root. Samsung built knox so there products would appeal to corporate customers. That is why it exists. To say there are no custom firm wares is false. Just read the development forums. Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
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I obtained root just to prove to myself it can be done. It is not the most important thing In the world. That said, I do understand your perspective. I appreciate the root apps and custom ROMs, and each year root access I harder and harder. Even without root you can appreciate any android device
I stopped rooting just because my Barclay's bank app doesn't work on rooted phones and it's very convenient for me. Also stock android got a lot better and I like it as it is. Also you have theme engines build it now so you can customize your phone without rooting. All that said of course there is some exceptional cases that root is needed, like recently with the new S6 there is no option to choose 2G only network mode on stock rom and I don't know if there is a no root solution for it
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
Two years ago I would not have dreamed of using an unrooted Android phone, but Android has come a long way now. I have been using my old Note 3 and my current S6 unrooted and I'm not missing root at all. Most of the reasons why I would root are available now without root.
I also enjoy unprecendented stability on my phones. No more flashing untested amateur stuff that fixes one thing and breaks 10 other things. So the answer to your question for me is, no, it's not worth rooting anymore.
drock212 said:
-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
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I appreciate your response. I have been looking at the development forums. I've been reading all kinds of threads and I guess I just find it daunting. I'm kind of in my own head about how I'm going to do all this and it SEEMS there are so many restrictions on what will work with what (moreso than used to be), incompatibilities and laser-focused restrictions.
I typically feel confident about these things, but when I start reading the various threads, I feel like a n00b. I have to ask because, as you've seen here, I convinced myself out of the possibility of rooting.
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Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Good to know. Possibly. Thing is, I haven't activated my phone yet (and I just got it 5 hours ago) because I know it will deactivate my old one and I'm still doing Titanium Backup to Dropbox. And I'm just incredibly terrified that I will lose the ability to do something that requires my old phone to be active. I don't actually know what that would be, but that's just me.
So, I don't know what variant I have yet. I will report back on that. I should be ready to activate by tomorrow morning.
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
hamstrman said:
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
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I do not like to ever use the word 'idiot' on XDA.
Newbie is the more appropriate word to use on these forums since 'idiot' is disrespectful.
Also, you sound more like the kinda guy who is not new to Android, just new to the Galaxy S6.
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Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
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KNOX & many other apps can be made non-functioning with the Google Playstore app:
"Package Disabler Pro".
It is very easy to follow or change any of their suggested recommendations.
Settings can be saved or restorded to or from .xml files. Password protection is possible.
Worthwhile.
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
hamstrman said:
Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
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Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Snowby123 said:
Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
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No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
Found this on rooting the sprint s6
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/27/install-twrp-recovery-root-sprint-galaxy-s6-g920p/
hamstrman said:
No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
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This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
hamstrman said:
This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
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Since your build number is for the Sprint variant, downgrade to the earliest build there is for the sprint variant.
If it is listed on the PingPongRoot thread, install it. The one you just mentioned looks like the one to use. Try it.
An update: Worked beautifully. Laterally changed my build from G920PVPU1AOC9 to G920PVPU1AOCF - success!
Installed PingPongRoot - success!
And everything followed... Titanium Backup, Lucky Patcher, etc.
Last part is kind of important, though. Tried to install Modded Google Play Store. Failed. Did research and found out I need Xposed to install it.
So I install Xposed (I already had a backup). It tells me my framework is outdated. So I do some more digging and find out I need a special version of Xposed for Lollipop, which I get and install. There's a .zip that I have to flash via recovery in order to make Xposed work which would make Lucky Patcher work which would make the Store work.
Flashing the zip requires TWRP or CWM recovery. Can I install either of those without tripping KNOX? This is getting way too complicated. I mean, logically, I would think that since I have PingPongRoot already, that I'm good.
Hi,
Bassically I'm just trying to get my phone to be unrooted to pass SafetyNet (Android Pay, Pokemon Go, and others) but have some system modications (adaway and removed boot sounds mainly).
What I did do is flash stock odin firmware (PG1), then twrp, supersu, and make my changes. Then if I just unroot with supersu it still fails SafetyNet. If I unroot and tell SuperSU to restore boot.img then I get a bootloop. Probably due to TWRP still being there and not stock Recovery? So I thought maybe from there I can just flash boot and recovery via odin but that didn't seem to work either. Is it possible to take the stock firmware and flash whatever I need except system? Or not possible to alter system and go back to stock boot/recovery?
Thanks!
I don't play but here's a link for info
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk/
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I don't play but here's a link for info
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk/
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That no longer works to pass SafetyNet. Last couple weeks there have been a couple of root/xposed solutions only for Google to changes SafetyNet and detect it. So I was thinking of just getting rid of root but hopefully keeping the couple system mods I like...
Not much help in here. Anyone know of a way to have a modified system but no root (or recovery if I don't need twrp)? Mainly I'd just like to update my hosts file and remove the stupid reboot "ding".
My hope was to modify system via twrp/supersu and then flash recovery/boot to get it back to stock but there must be some sort of check because that just causes dm-verity failed notification in stock recovery. I can unroot via the SuperSU app but unrooting and telling it to restore stock boot.img causes loop. Unroot and tell it to leave boot.img lets my phone work but still doesn't pass safetynet checks.
All this work makes me miss my HTC phones. They seemed so much easier to manipulate.
This guy's solution lets me have a stock system with some system modifications. So now I have what I wanted, passing Safety Net, removed boot sound and applied adaway hosts file!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/play-pokemon-root-switch-method-patched-t3483179
@henderjr i found this. Would this work under you're criteria needed??
https://theunlockr.com/2015/09/26/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-5-t-mobile-sprint-versions/
Im thinking of doing this also.
I know yur post is pretty old bug i just got my note recently but i had no idea there was such a lack in development for sprint version. If u did end up accomplishing unroot with eneabled security, let me know. Thanks
Abu Nazir said:
@henderjr i found this. Would this work under you're criteria needed??
https://theunlockr.com/2015/09/26/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-5-t-mobile-sprint-versions/
Im thinking of doing this also.
I know yur post is pretty old bug i just got my note recently but i had no idea there was such a lack in development for sprint version. If u did end up accomplishing unroot with eneabled security, let me know. Thanks
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That will unroot it but you'll also lose all system modifications so it'll be stock again. I wanted adaway hosts file and a couple other system mods. What I posted above did work for me but about six weeks ago I exchanged my Note 5 for a new one (camera died on the old one) and haven't rooted. I enjoy using Samsung Pay so I haven't tripped Knox yet.
henderjr said:
That will unroot it but you'll also lose all system modifications so it'll be stock again. I wanted adaway hosts file and a couple other system mods. What I posted above did work for me but about six weeks ago I exchanged my Note 5 for a new one (camera died on the old one) and haven't rooted. I enjoy using Samsung Pay so I haven't tripped Knox yet.
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Oh ok. Yep gotcha. Sorry i forgot u said that. Ive been reading so much on these forums in the past couple days im getting myself confused on what ive read and havent. Ok tho thanks alot. Really appreciate the reply tho on these dead forums. Lol. Thanks again