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This must happen with other pdas... screen issue

I am experiancing some problems!
basically I think the manufacturer installed protective screen has come loose from the hard sensor (due to use?) and so the stylus is pushing on an air bubble, and with the software keyboard (virtual keyboard) the wrong buttons are getting pressed.
I dont know whether to cut out that layer with a scalpel (carefully) and use normal screen protectors that stick properly ... has anyone done this before?
Maybe you could apply heat to it to tighten it or something I dont know so I need help!
My phone is an alpine (xda2i) but other pdas must be having the same issue?
is it ok to cut the initial plastic screen that comes integrated with the xda?

Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.

To check whether it is the digitizer or the crappy screen protector, you should be able to see the edge of the layer at the side, especially manufacturer orginial screen protector, they are really crappy. You should be able to seperate the layer (from the edge) with something pointy (e.g. a needle), and then peel it off from there.
If you didn't see any distinguishable edge at the edge of the screen, chances are you should not do anything yourself.

Jonjamesm said:
Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
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Thanks for the responses!!!
I have a feeling that it is what you are referring to as a digitizer. Do most of the mobile phone shops do this heat option? as after googling it, not much comes up, or is it referred to under a different terminology,
thanks in advance!
Rob

If your UK based you can find out more about them from apex laptops, google them...
I'm in Edinburgh, and it took me a while before I found someone willing to replace the digitizer.
This is not a common thing - but I think with the introduction of the iphone the markets for heat syncing will go up, I suggest freeing up an afternoon and go to some of those dodgy shops that offer the unlocking service, also some computer repair shop technicians might be confident in doing something of this nature.
Happy hunting!...
JJ McG.

thanks for your help

whatever you do dont approach o2. they are ridiculous, they want to charge 350 dollars to peel off the old one and put a new on one. search ebay and you will find digitizres with screwdriver and peeling, firming tool for 15 dollars plus postage.
o2's repair guys say it "original" spares which make it so expensive....
right...........

rang up
rang up a couple of shops one doesn't do heat sync and the other does but the machines bust, he started talking about soldering etc...(does that sound like it?) but when i re-described the problem he started talking about 50 60 quid for a new screen! which I am not prepared to pay for the relatively minor problem
How is a digitiser different from a normal screen protector anyway?
(placing a normal protector on top of it sort of helped reduce the problems because it applied a little firmness over the offending area....)

O.k the digitizer is not a screen protector. The Digitizer is a membrane that sits atop the LCD.
Note: that the LCD is not a touch screen and the only thing making your device a touch sensitive is this digitizer
digitizers can be pricey, but the reason your guy is costing it at 50 - 60 quid is because he is the middle man and needs to make a profit. You can find digitizers from apex laptops or GPS midlands (links below) and buy them at trade prices
http://www.gpsmidlands.co.uk/index.php?menu=Home
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/touchscreens.htm
Dependant on your device will depend on the price.
My guy asked for 10 pounds to replace my screen, which I thought was more than reasonable because if he broke the LCD whilst replacing the digitizer (which he did) he was liable to replace it. Make sure that your guy will do this.
hope this helps.

after googling...
After googling for a bit, I came across someone who had these sort of problems with their own pda
http://jamescrisp.blogspot.com/2007/05/fixing-palm-treos-digitizer-touch.html
it seems that dirt stuck under the sides can cause the same kinds of problems,
after running a bit of paper under the corners of the screen I have found some interesting results, the problems I have have changed slightly and seem to rectify temporarily when I press down (rub down) on the screen...
so I might look at taking it apart with some tools off ebay or something and giving it a good clean... any recommendations on how to strip down and clean an Alpine....? actually I'll repost that in the aline forum if there isn't already a post there....

hope your confident in doing so - I'd take it to a shop if it pisses you off that much - taking it a part and cleaning might end up with you just having a big screen phone with no touch pad...
Up to you, hope your successful

[GUIDE] I9000 Screen Replacement

This topic has clues for replacing the screen. I have not concluded an manual for chancing it yet but reading this whole topic gives you the big picture how it is done. Questions are always welcome and I try to answer them with my knowledge. This 1st post gives you 2 links to follow for pics about changing screen and my own starting point for chancing my own screen.
Has anyone bought and installed a digitizer+screen set which is on sale at ebay? I could not post direct link to ebay because I'm a newbie on these forums. You can find the product searching ebay with these keywords "I9000 digitizer". My galaxy's screen cracked and I need an replacement. Both screen and glass broke. I think that this set includes them both. There is also told in the questions that the set infact includes amoled display and not LCD as the title says.
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
Third question is that doesn't samsung vibrant and galaxy s share the same chassis but different screen with more capacitive buttons. Could it be possible to install vibrant's screen to galaxy s?
PS. The way my galaxy brokedown is very funny. I lay down my phone on the kitchen table and the screen cracked. I was like OMFG when I heard the cracking noise. Phone was like 13 days old. Samsung does not repair it with warranty because they think that it wasn't an manufacturing defect. They said that I have dropped my phone and that's the way it broke. That could not be the case because I handled it like a baby. I would have to pay 255€ for new screen and digitizer. Hell no!! I'm a student so that sum does not fit with my wallet.
New screen installed, see posts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7683527&postcount=37 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7710572&postcount=40
Edit: Ebay's prices have rised noticeable in the last couple of months. At the moment the price for these screens is around 100$. I found this site which sells them for 60£. http://www.shineyourmobile.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=8128

pekkala89 said:
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
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There are 2 videos on the net, both on youtube I think. Just search "i9000 Disassembly" and you'll find one of them.
The Galaxy S has a serious design flaw as the glass goes around the home button (and the call ear/speaker) so it's very vulnerable there to shattering. I had my phone in the pocket and suddenly when I take it out I see it cracked right next to the home button. What had I done during the time it got cracked? The only possible explanation was carrying a _small_ speaker that then probably hit it. I was so surprised when I saw it cracked because even a speaker hit, when I lifted it up, is hard to consider cracking the screen.
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.

Schmich said:
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.
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I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.

the same...
i had a similar unfortunate event ... my screen cracked when i hit the phone to the metallic frame of a chair (it slipped out of my hand )...
it cracked exactly like you people said... near the home button.
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
it is quite tricky to dissassemble the display part but hope to succed...
keep you posted with the outcome
respect

pekkala89 said:
I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.
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Yeah that's my fear but I presume they just heat up the glue. That's how some industries do for other products. I think dental bracers (& its glue) have a different technique as well. So, will be interesting to see.

gallaxya said:
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
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Where did you order it from?

If you were asked to pay more than $250 for screen replacement, then why don't you send it to Samsung in Korea? They will replace your SAMOLED for mere USD $100ish and ship it back to you for free (or may be not). This way you get a genium quality from original manufacturer and absolutely no hassles!

I dropped mine from around 4ft onto a concrete floor and its fine. Maybe I just got lucky.

Digitizer+Samoled set ordered from ebay. I should get it in two weeks. If possible I try to take pictures of the changing process and make an manual. I hope it's not glued tight to the chassis.

please do, i have some f***ing little scratches all over the screen, thought it was supposed to be scratch resistant.
Worst part is that it's in it's protective pouch all the time (maybe that's the probleme, dirt/dust might get trapped and rub against the screen).

Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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yrizan said:
Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.

pekkala89 said:
I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.
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Sorry to say got in to the same problems
Looks like the phone is build around the screen. Be careful with the metal ring, on top and bottom its between the screen and chassis, so if you brute force to much the screen cracks even more. The screen is glued to the chassis all around with superglue. I am not sure if its even possible to repalce the screen. It let me thinking that samsung wont repair broken galaxys , just replace them.
Ill keep working on the phone and keep trying, but compared to changing the screen on iphone is this like changing the screen on a iphone as a blind man without arms.
People thinking of buying this screen kit on eBay, don't do it. Just contact samsung for a repair.
Ill keep you posted.

I got the screen off.
No need to loosen the metaling ring around. The screen in dropped in the chassis from the front.
On the mainboard, just pop off the screen cable, long and flat next to the SD card slot.
The next step is very strange, just use brute force and crack the screen off the chassis, start from the top
When you get around the home button, be careful. Samsung has clued 2 sensors to the screen and chassis for back and option button. Best thing to do here is bend the screen back a little and cut loos the sensors from the digitizer with a sharp knife/scalpel. Samsung has used insane amount of clue on this phone.
Both the digitizer and amoled screen was clued to the chassis.
The next step is to clean off all the clue, buy loads of glue. Fill the chassis with glue and press the new screen on.
Wish me luck.
Ill keep you posted.

Making me a bit scared reading this thread, I`ve just bought phone Insurance just in case.Good luck fitting your replacement screens, sounds a bit daunting.

YES!!!
New screen in place and everything is working perfectly. Took about 3 hours first time (give or take). Its possible to do it a lot faster. The biggeste problem is the glue. Melting at about 120 celsius, but i was scared to heat the glas as i didnt know how much heat the mainbord could stand. All in all a pain in the a**, but doable.
I can also confirm this screen from ebay to be an orginal samsung amoled screen.
Best of luck too others trying a screen replace.
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amoled or samoled though?

My mistake. Its a samoled screen
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Awesome!!! thanks for the review
did you manage to snap a few pictures meanwhile you were working in your phone?

Im sorry, no pictures
The charger is missing to my canon camera, new one incomming from ebay. I'll post pictures next time ill change the screen ;-)
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[Q] Alternative Replacement for Glass Panel

Hey guys, I stupidly choose to take the glass panel of the front of my tf101 (it had suffered liquid damage months before, which left white patches all over the screen which i trying to fix) in doing so i shattered the glass panel.:silly:
im really not sure how the whole digitaliser thing works, but im assuming that glass serves no purpose other than a protective surface? if so is it possible to replace that glass panel with a thin piece of plastic, as theres no point spend alot of money on a proper replacement that i will most likely shatter again.... also i now own a tf300t so i cant justiy the price of a replacement (just so i can test the new linux developments)
Cheers

I really wouldn't tbh, if you aren't willing to go for the repair it may be best to sell it or permanently use hdmi-out / a mouse. To quote a post
(Please excuse the... loaded language.)
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No, it is not possible.
There is a place you can get the glass digitizer, but they require that you buy at least 10 at a time. Furthermore, removing the old glass and putting on a new glass is a very complicated procedure. Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not pressure failure resistant. You've no idea how thin the glass digitizer is. It's slightly thinner than your credit card. Without the proper experience and the right equipment, the slightest pressure point could crack it.
BTW, I speak from experience. I'm not just another crackhead.
I live near a guy that does electronic repairs for a living. A few months ago, he ordered a whole bunch of these digitizer glass for the transformer. He thought he could make a profit from repairing people's TF's or get the ones with broken glass, repair, then resell for a profit. Funny story about this, actually. So, I managed to get my hands on one of the TF glass digitizer. Spent all night to perform the operation. Almost done when I accidently applied a small pressure. Cracked it. Frustrated, I put it up on ebay. It was immediately bought that same night by the guy I was talking about. That's how I got to know him. He bought it for $200. A couple days later, he put it up on ebay. It turned out he had broken a glass and scratched another. He took it as a sign to get out of that business right away. Later when I got to know a few people who wanted to repair the thing themselves, I sent them his info and let him sell them the rest of his glasses.
The point is we simply don't have the right equipment to do these things. And even when we do, the material cost is just ridiculous, not to mention labor.
It's best that you put yours on ebay and get a new one.
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He is referring to repairing the digitizer, while yours is fine, the repair has the potential of breaking the digitizer as well. It'd take alot of effort and patience, if you possess this I definitely say go for it though , not to be discouraging, I just warn you to be careful.
As far as getting a replacement part, I'm not sure plastic will work, I searched a bit but couldn't find a definite yey or nay as to whether it will conduct with the digitizer properly, but it may.
You may beable to get a cheap glass replacement as well, but I know the tablet comes with Gorilla glass stock.
Link to thread from quote Here.

Thing O Doom said:
I really wouldn't tbh, if you aren't willing to go for the repair it may be best to sell it or permanently use hdmi-out / a mouse. To quote a post
(Please excuse the... loaded language.)
He is referring to repairing the digitizer, while yours is fine, the repair has the potential of breaking the digitizer as well. It'd take alot of effort and patience, if you possess this I definitely say go for it though , not to be discouraging, I just warn you to be careful.
As far as getting a replacement part, I'm not sure plastic will work, I searched a bit but couldn't find a definite yey or nay as to whether it will conduct with the digitizer properly, but it may.
You may beable to get a cheap glass replacement as well, but I know the tablet comes with Gorilla glass stock.
Link to thread from quote Here.
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Thanks for the reply man, I'm actually typing this off it now turns out where it shattered it didn't really hit the screen mostly stayed over the black out line, with a few hairline cracks but still usable I just taped up the worst of it then chucked an screen protector over it, gonna just use it for HDMI output mostly

[Q] Can ''only'' the digitizer be replaced of a broken screen?

hi
i want to know if only the exterior glass of nexus 5 can be replaced. My phone has a cracked screen but the touch response, colors etc everything works fine so only the outer glass (gorilla glass?) is damaged. I want to know if only that can be replaced as LG ask around 150$ to replace the whole component.
can i order this? is this possible?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C-Front-Out...-Google-Nexus-5-D820-D821-Tools-/171311153201
Thanks

Bump??

im pretty sure they are fused together and if you replace 1, you replace both.

Unfortunately you will have to replace the whole thing. When my screen broke It was functional completely aside from the proximity sensor (due to shattered glass). I tried taking it apart afterwards to no avail.

Well, you'll maybe be able to replace only the touch screen (without the LCD) but it wwill not be easy has you'll probably need to heat it to be able to remove the glue, etc.
Probably better to buy a lcd + touch screen :/

ohh
so the ebay item i linked is completely useless?
Thanks for your help guys

It's not impossible to try and replace only the glass. A friend of mine has done this with his galaxy note, which also has a glued screen+digitizer+glass assembly. However, the replacement glass is pretty bad and reflective and dust has started gathering beneath it. The touchscreen was also affected: some areas don't respond so well anymore.

I've replaced just the glass on a different phone. It's the biggest pain ever. You'd have to separate the glass via a heat gun, while trying not to break the digitizer. Then remove the glue. Then adhere the new glass to the digitizer with loca adhesive. Loca is hard to deal with, bubbles, and can get into other components ruining them. It must be cured with a uv light. And even if you can pull it off, no way will it be 100%. Strange glares and whatnot. Some try to do it with double sided tape, but that leaves a gap between the glass and digitizer, which causes strange touch responses or it'll be totally unresponsive. And be prone to break the glass easily without loca. Trust me pay the $150 and let lg replace the whole assembly.

Lokke9191 said:
I've replaced just the glass on a different phone. It's the biggest pain ever. You'd have to separate the glass via a heat gun, while trying not to break the digitizer. Then remove the glue. Then adhere the new glass to the digitizer with loca adhesive. Loca is hard to deal with, bubbles, and can get into other components ruining them. It must be cured with a uv light. And even if you can pull it off, no way will it be 100%. Strange glares and whatnot. Some try to do it with double sided tape, but that leaves a gap between the glass and digitizer, which causes strange touch responses or it'll be totally unresponsive. And be prone to break the glass easily without loca. Trust me pay the $150 and let lg replace the whole assembly.
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It's too bad it's like this. Probably the most likely thing to break on a phone and they make it so difficult to fix and compared to the price of the phone, expensive to fix. Certain things should just be easily fixable. Oh well, such is life.

Anyone changed the housing/bezel

Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..

russy23 said:
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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Your best bet for a guide to follow that also has images is on the following link.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Samsung_Galaxy_S5
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russy23 said:
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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No, it isn't if you've never done this before.
Reasons are the next:
1. The risk to damage LCD-assembly is very high.
2. The risk to buy a non-suitable bezel (middle frame, or "rear case" how Samsung calls this part) is very high. They are different for different variants of S5 and contain different main antennas inside gray plastic.

Your best bet is to wait for a crack in the screen. You're also gonna screw up the adhesive around the screen and you could literally break keys underneath (no backlight anymore)
Unless you can pop in a nail and try to lift up the screen yourself... as it happens when device is old.
As of now new Original screen is around 100€, which is one of the best display today.

I'll just stick a case on and be done with it..just get a new charge port cover and that'll do..haha

I just installed a new charger port cover. Cost me $3.50 and took 5 minutes to install.. If you really want to change the bezel do a google search on how to do it.. There are plenty of videos which will show you the steps..

russy23 said:
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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after watching several instructional videos on how to disassemble my s5, i realized its not worth it. they water-proofed the crap out of it with multiple layers of adhesive. using a heat gun to soften the glue is a pain, and can also damage the components.

if you use some kind of very soft heat gun and a "sucker" while sliding in a small credit card, you can do it. it is all about being delicate...

The bad thing to replace the bezel frame is that you have to unmount the whole phone, and at last remove the screen. It's glued to the frame with an adhesive band and it's very difficult to remove it without breaking it. And probably you'll need a new adhesive to mount it again to the frame, otherwise parts of the screen will remain elevated from the bezel.
And it's very easy to break the AMOLED screen connector between the mainboard and the screen if you don't know where it is. First, you'll have to watch several youtube vids to get to know how to disasemble the phone and where the connector is.
And if you dare to replace it and you fail, there're cheap alternatives like this: https://lltrader.com/collections/s5/products/samsung-galaxy-s5-display-assembly-no-frame but it's not an original AMOLED, it's a LCD and very fragile, keep it in mind.