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Did anyone buy from chinamobile?

Hello everyone,
I found a man called Kenny Taylor that sells phones,and I compared prices,
he`s prices are ridiculously low,
he`s saying that he works at chinamobile as a sales rep,
though I really couldn`t find any information about him or about phones in the site,I could manage to see only blackberry`s there.
He claims that the phones are brand new,in original box and with all accessories and they are not china clones.
He`s quotes for the phones I wanted -
iPhone 3GS 16GB (unlocked) - 300$
iPhone 3GS 32GB (unlocked) - 350$
HTC Hero - 250$
HTC Nexus one - 230$
International shipping via Fedex/USPS - 60$.
The prices here are 300$ less than the MSRP,and I don`t know if I should buy from him - maybe it`s a scam or something.
If anyone knows the person/company,and did buy from one of them - it would be nice to hear about that.
*if the thread is not in the right section of the forum,it would be nice if you could move it to the correct one*
**this thread is not about advertising the company/the guy,just for information matters**
Lots of thanks,
Danny.

100% SCAM!! Those prices are ludicrous, no way in hell are those real, most likely you will get nothing at all. and FYI, mobiles and pretty much all electronics are more expensive in China than in the US, and China Mobile shops are the MOST expensive places. STAY AWAY!

Thank you mlalahoi, actually I was going to buy the nexus one from him,
knew I should ask in here first.

Quick update -
I have got an answer from the company,I have to say that it sounds very believable..
Thanks for your mail.
This person that you are talking about i don't no him but he can be a
scammer too that want to you buy from him...
So i will advice you to buy from us to try and have believe in the
company...we no that there is alot of scam out there.
We are not scam we are real company that as been in business for more
then 8 years now...once we confirm your payment we are going to ship
the phone to you at your home address.
The reason the price is so low is the we buy direct from the company
that product the phone in bulks and right now we are running promo in
the company for buy 3units and get 1 for free.
So if you are going to buy the Htc Nexus one only the payment is via
western union not paypa...because is too low for the payment
condition.
Below is the condition about that payment
Any orders form $100usd to $3000usd=== via western union.
Any orders form $3000usd to $4500usd=== via bank transfer.
Any order form $4500usd above is via paypal.
So you are going to pay the money via western union money transfer.
So get back with your shipping address information so that we can
started packing and label your order ready for shipment.
Regards
Sale Rep.
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dany74q said:
Quick update -
I have got an answer from the company,I have to say that it sounds very believable..
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That's not believable at all if you know what to look for. First, the grammar and spelling is atrocious. Any real company would take the time to actually write their correspondence letters in a professional manner. Secondly, a legitimate, respectable company would never use Western Union to transfer money, no matter the amount. Every money transfer scam I've ever seen uses Western Union, since it's not traceable or reversable. I would not buy from any seller selling new devices at those rediculous prices; even if bought at wholesale prices, they would lose a lot of money selling that cheap. My advice is to stick with a reputable seller so you don't end up losing a few hundred dollars and not get anything in return, as I can guarantee you won't get what you order from these people.

Thank you for your answer Dave,I`ll stay away.
Once again - thank you all for your time.

dany74q said:
Thank you for your answer Dave,I`ll stay away.
Once again - thank you all for your time.
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It's not that bad, heh, but there are a few things you should keep in mind:
do not buy "genuine" stuff from China, either you're gonna get a fake or worse: nothing
go with established stores like DealExtreme or FocalPrice
use only PayPal, only scammers use Western Union
engrish is somewhat the norm, even with bigger stores :/
if you're getting a phone from there, choose one which has been properly reviewed, DealExtreme is very good in that regard as they have a very active forum and users , so you know what are you buying

If she reaches for a handful you'd better have the energy!

Reliable websites to buy Xiaomi mi4c

I created this thread because for some reason I can't post in the thread about xiaomi buyers, I can't even comment and I don't know why.
Anyways, I wanted to ask if anyone has had any experience with giztop.com and if so, a few questions.
1) did you have to pay customs?
2)was the phone in perfect conditions?
3)how long did the shipping take and how long did it take to get a tracking number?
Everyone is invited to post their experiences with different websites buying the xiaomi mi4c and also by answering those 3 questions if you can.

I ordered a Mi4C from geekbuying.com. It's a "big" and reliable website/store with many customers. Also their customer service support is fast and helpful, for example they included a gift in my order. I still haven't received my item because I chose the "slow" flat-rate shipping which can take ~15 days, but I'm not in a hurry.
I received a correct tracking number almost immediately after I placed my order. I'll report back with more answers to your questions

@Flaxe. How much did it cost you? Don't hesitate to come back when you get your product

cesararduino said:
@Flaxe. How much did it cost you? Don't hesitate to come back when you get your product
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It cost me USD 277.35. And I just noticed that it arrived in my country at 31 October, so it only took like 2 days to get here. Now the slow swedish post just have to hurry up!

I used Geekbuying too, to ship to the UK, shipping was free even though it was apparently 'expedited'. TNT was on the list as a 0 cost option and a 3-5 day shipping time. Mine was ordered on the 24th, shipped on the 26th, and in my hand on the 29th. Really hassle free. Phone was in perfect condition, and bloat seemed minimal if anything at all. Bloat is a bit of a moot point though as sMIUI went onto it straight away.

Do you guys think it'd be just as smooth to the U.S? Did you guys use EU warehouse? @Flaxe @Salieri_UK

cesararduino said:
Do you guys think it'd be just as smooth to the U.S? Did you guys use EU warehouse? @Flaxe @Salieri_UK
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I have no idea how it will be to the US, but I guess it will go pretty smooth. Mine was shipped from Singapore, they didn't have it in a EU warehouse when I ordered.

There is a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/to-buy-outside-china-t3208959
I bought from ibuygou and asked them to check if there were any faults with the device, they said they will check. I got the device and it came with EU rom so no bloatware and they gave 2 free screen protectors. Got dhl tracking same day. They offer duty insurance, so if you get charged, they will refund you. Also very repsponsive with emails. I'd use them again

Flaxe said:
It cost me USD 277.35. And I just noticed that it arrived in my country at 31 October, so it only took like 2 days to get here. Now the slow swedish post just have to hurry up!
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Did you have to pay any duty?

@ermacwins. Did you pay any customs duty or tax? And the screen protectors, were they packaged separately?

Erladion said:
Did you have to pay any duty?
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I haven't heard anything about it yet. Though, when reading at the swedish import "laws", there's 0% duty for importing phones, but we still have to pay 25% tax.
When I track the item on the swedish post website, it now says the item is being sorted at the terminal and I should have it delivered to me tomorrow. So then I will know for sure if I have to pay anything extra.

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@ermacwins. Did you pay any customs duty or tax? And the screen protectors, were they packaged separately?
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No because I paid for the duty insurance which is 5% of total. They still marked the item $20 but I didn't want to risk it. Yes packaged separately but I'm not sure if they give it to every customer.

ermacwins said:
No because I paid for the duty insurance which is 5% of total. They still marked the item $20 but I didn't want to risk it. Yes packaged separately but I'm not sure if they give it to every customer.
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To clarify, do you live in the U.S or the EU?

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To clarify, do you live in the U.S or the EU?
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EU

Are the screen protectors original products or Xiaomi? Also, would you consider 7.8 mm thick or thin for a phone? That's the thickness of the Xiaomi mi4c @ermacwins

@ermacwins

Well it doesn't have a xiaomi logo on it but does have the mi logo

Yeah, its supposed to have the mi logo

https://www.fastcardtech.com/flow.php?step=cart... 249.$ with shipping 32Gb/3Gb .. Has anyone any experience with this site?

miroslavpena said:
https://www.fastcardtech.com/flow.php?step=cart... 249.$ with shipping 32Gb/3Gb .. Has anyone any experience with this site?
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A german website for China phones and Shops says fastcardtech.com isn't very reliable. This site has over 400 customer ratings in different forums and portals, rated 2/10 Stars. Bad support and such things.
Source: Chinahandys.net
http://www.chinahandys.net/onlineshops-im-vergleich/fastcardtech-erfahrungen-bewertungen/

Full protection case (TPU) for Moto Z (Indian version)

Hi all!
I have slapped a Nillkin style cover (available on Amazon.in) on my Moto Z. But the case, though quite slim, doesn't protect the device quite adequately - that's the way I feel about it. I know I can go directly to Otterbox portal and order that there - but I am too reluctant to pay a hefty postage fee! Can anyone please recommend a good case for protection, which is available on either Flipkart or Snapdeal or Amazon (dot in) or for that matter on any Indian online market?
By the way, how is Nillkin as a brand? Are they a reputed one?
Thanks in advance.

SogaBan said:
Hi all!
By the way, how is Nillkin as a brand? Are they a reputed one?
Thanks in advance.
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They make good products.
BUT I've a question for you too... if I need could you sell/send me in Italy by ebay/Paypal an Indian version Moto Z in White flavour (and 64 GB & dual SIM ) ???

enetec said:
if I need could you sell/send me in Italy by ebay/Paypal an Indian version Moto Z in White flavour (and 64 GB & dual SIM ) ???
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Theoretically, yes I can.
But practically I would NOT recommend doing that. The reason being two fold:
I remember seeing "only for sale in India" somewhere in the box - I may be wrong - and unfortunately I can't verify that now since I dumped the package in the garbage. If I am true, then I am unsure whether that will pose any unnecessary inconvenience in the customs checking.
Secondly, the cost of the package and/or postage will be around 3800 INR (if not more than that). So, that effectively makes the entire cost somewhere around 44000 INR (approx). Add the overseas transaction charge on paypal to that.
Under these circumstances, I'd have bought the device locally, if I were you.

SogaBan said:
Theoretically, yes I can.
But practically I would NOT recommend doing that. The reason being two fold:
I remember seeing "only for sale in India" somewhere in the box - I may be wrong - and unfortunately I can't verify that now since I dumped the package in the garbage. If I am true, then I am unsure whether that will pose any unnecessary inconvenience in the customs checking.
Secondly, the cost of the package and/or postage will be around 3800 INR (if not more than that). So, that effectively makes the entire cost somewhere around 44000 INR (approx). Add the overseas transaction charge on paypal to that.
Under these circumstances, I'd have bought the device locally, if I were you.
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I would have done this way IF @Moto they had decided to sell a reasonable version in Europe! It's not a matter of price, problem is that here they sell only 32GB single SIM versions which are NOT what I need..!
They *know* that are using absurd selling politics and in fact they have forbidden all on line retailers to sell abroad. In all the world. BUT this doesn't apply on private2private sellings, so no problem for "India only" labels...
I'll travel to Malaysia in some days and I'll see what would be available there. After that I'll decide what to do...
If in the meantime prices will not drop a bit, would you eventually interested in a, let's say... 45.000 INR selling?

enetec said:
I would have done this way IF @Moto they had decided to sell a reasonable version in Europe! It's not a matter of price, problem is that here they sell only 32GB single SIM versions which are NOT what I need..!
They *know* that are using absurd selling politics and in fact they have forbidden all on line retailers to sell abroad. In all the world. BUT this doesn't apply on private2private sellings, so no problem for "India only" labels...
I'll travel to Malaysia in some days and I'll see what would be available there. After that I'll decide what to do...
If in the meantime prices will not drop a bit, would you eventually interested in a, let's say... 45.000 INR selling?
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I understand the situation. Let's discuss regarding this though PM (have already dropped you a message) - I intend to keep this thread clean and on the topic.

A shameless bump.
Just wondering - why don't we get the Otterbox or Spigen TPU cases already in India?

Warning & Unexpected Loss Of Warranty For Many !

i just want to inform anyone who bought his phone via Amazon, even at normal price and on release day like myself, will not have warranty, even though EU law strictly says that there is a minimum 6 month manufacturer's warranty that is mandatory. today i received this quoted text from after sales after they already approved my case as production error:
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Good day!
Jin here. Thank you for reaching back to us.
I am very sorry to hear about what happened to your OnePlus phone. We have already approved your service request. Our Service Center has sent you the shipping label, and DHL will come over to pick-up your parcel very soon.
About the warranty, although you bought your phone from the Amazon website, we would like to inform you that we only cover the warranty for the OnePlus products which are bought from our authorize/official resellers, or from our official OnePlus website.
After a thorouh review, the purchase you made from Amazon is not an official reseller of OnePlus. Thus, the next repair of your phone will require a payment.
Because the final price is depending on multiple factors:
1. Cost of spare parts
2. Tax
3. Shipping
4. Handling Fee
We are unable to provide an accurate number on the repair fee. The final repair fee will be given upon arrival and inspection at our service provider.
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for this i don't have to copy my data over hours to have a backup and be 10 days or more without my device, without knowing the price beforehand (vibration motor replacement should be possible to predict at least roughly)
i shall order and pay the motor with my local repair shop of my trust and have the device back within the hour and fully working for probably less money.
i just want everyone to know about this "questionable" business conduct and what to expect.
i shall copy paste this in various forums like XDA, REDDIT etc.

Here is some info: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/faq/index_en.htm
Under EU law you have to decide which warranty you want to invoke. In general your first contact should be the trader where you bought the phone, in your case Amazon.
Also, did you buy in a country where Amazon is the official partner of OnePlus or did you buy from a Amazon Marketplace trader?

Yeah, my first OnePlus device was the OP5 and I heard that last year. It's good to let people know from time to time but this is well known overall that OnePlus only warranties their phones purchased from their site (and don't know who is an authorized reseller). If you buy off Amazon then you need to get their protection plan if it's offered on the OnePlus.

Why didn't you just buy it from OnePlus directly to begin with? Save a few bucks? Lesson learned.

OnePlus doenst have to cover your warranty, but amazon has to.

techlogik said:
Why didn't you just buy it from OnePlus directly to begin with? Save a few bucks? Lesson learned.
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My assumption would be he may not live in a country where you can buy OnePlus. There is no other reason to purchase from Amazon IMHO. Their prices on phones are usually a LOT higher for phones that cannot be attained by folks in some countries.

If you bought it through Amazon and it came through Prime/FBA (regardless of who the seller was), call Amazon and have them replace it. They will cover the warranty. I've had Amazon replace a Nokia E63, LG G5, and LG V20 for me over the years. They have great customer service.

Contact Amazon about warranty

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If you bought it through Amazon and it came through Prime/FBA (regardless of who the seller was), call Amazon and have them replace it. They will cover the warranty. I've had Amazon replace a Nokia E63, LG G5, and LG V20 for me over the years. They have great customer service.
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I've bought items before from Amazon and have been reffered back to the original company rather than Amazon replace it. It depends on the item.
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Boxy52 said:
If you bought it through Amazon and it came through Prime/FBA (regardless of who the seller was), call Amazon and have them replace it. They will cover the warranty. I've had Amazon replace a Nokia E63, LG G5, and LG V20 for me over the years. They have great customer service.
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Recently, the Amazon support policy has changed. The article is replaced only if there is no authorized service center in the country of sale. Otherwise, Amazon will be responsible for following the entire repair process and the timing may be long.

good feedback all
that was the intention.
mine i repaired myself for 40 ®uros, no big issue.
policies are one thing, legal stuff is something else again and then there is business ethics and acting agains expectations.
no-one who buys a device from a reputed website on release day would ever assume there is no warranty and if i buy a volkswagen it's not mandatory to read the volkswage website. my grandpa does not have a computer for example LOL and still wants to be covered.
however, what i wanted is to refresh memories, get a various useful feedback concentrated in little space and express my opinion that
this is not proper business attitude. they produce a phone, sell it in masses to resellers and later refuse to replace a part which they
confirm that it's hardware failure due to production error..
not everything that one can get away with or is legal is correct and i'm sure that many youngsters with no or small incomes or on pocket money can get themselves into serious trouble this way.
after all in my case it was only the vibes, but what if it's a mother board? full damage moneywise i'd say and this is why it's not
ok what and how they do it.
thanks to everyone for all the great feedbacks, perhaps some more is incoming so that the page or 2 will provide useful information for
as many as possible
cheers and a nice weekend @all

Stupid question but why not buy directly from OnePlus?
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magnamentis said:
good feedback all
that was the intention.
mine i repaired myself for 40 ®uros, no big issue.
policies are one thing, legal stuff is something else again and then there is business ethics and acting agains expectations.
no-one who buys a device from a reputed website on release day would ever assume there is no warranty and if i buy a volkswagen it's not mandatory to read the volkswage website. my grandpa does not have a computer for example LOL and still wants to be covered.
however, what i wanted is to refresh memories, get a various useful feedback concentrated in little space and express my opinion that
this is not proper business attitude. they produce a phone, sell it in masses to resellers and later refuse to replace a part which they
confirm that it's hardware failure due to production error..
not everything that one can get away with or is legal is correct and i'm sure that many youngsters with no or small incomes or on pocket money can get themselves into serious trouble this way.
after all in my case it was only the vibes, but what if it's a mother board? full damage moneywise i'd say and this is why it's not
ok what and how they do it.
thanks to everyone for all the great feedbacks, perhaps some more is incoming so that the page or 2 will provide useful information for
as many as possible
cheers and a nice weekend @all
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Can you please share the link of the amazon page where you brought your phone from?
And as much as i am able to understand, Oneplus is not at fault here. I can buy a Oneplus phone, remove some parts from it and sell it to someone else. Should oneplus take the responsibility here?

Predator_XxX said:
Can you please share the link of the amazon page where you brought your phone from?
And as much as i am able to understand, Oneplus is not at fault here. I can buy a Oneplus phone, remove some parts from it and sell it to someone else. Should oneplus take the responsibility here?
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That would depend on the fact that the phone was tampered with, if there are no signs of tampering, and it is infact a manufacturing problem from oneplus, then yes, oneplus should accept responsibility regardless of the fact that it was bought from a reseller, as in the end it was OnePlus who manufactured the phone and got paid for it. However, if there are clear signs that the phone has been opened and tampered with, then OnePlus is right to refuse warranty.

chakra said:
Stupid question but why not buy directly from OnePlus?
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Indeed, a very stupid question. Should I buy my vacuum cleaner or washing machine directly from manufacturer's web site ? Have you heard of the word "store" or "online store" , where you buy stuff from ?
I bought my phone from Amazon DE on launch day because I trust Amazon way more than OnePlus as far as delivery times and the phone was sold directly by Amazon from their own stock. And now to find out I have no manufacturer warranty ? I don't think the EU laws allows OnePlus to treat their customers like idiots, I would immediately complain to the authorities. Hopefully this is all a huge misunderstanding.

Cst79 said:
Indeed, a very stupid question. Should I buy my vacuum cleaner or washing machine directly from manufacturer's web site ? Have you heard of the word "store" or "online store" , where you buy stuff from ?
I bought my phone from Amazon DE on launch day because I trust Amazon way more than OnePlus as far as delivery times and the phone was sold directly by Amazon from their own stock. And now to find out I have no manufacturer warranty ? I don't think the EU laws allows OnePlus to treat their customers like idiots, I would immediately complain to the authorities. Hopefully this is all a huge misunderstanding.
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Regardless of whether it's a misunderstanding or not, the op should still complain. It's unacceptable behavior from oneplus

Cst79 said:
Indeed, a very stupid question. Should I buy my vacuum cleaner or washing machine directly from manufacturer's web site ? Have you heard of the word "store" or "online store" , where you buy stuff from ?
I bought my phone from Amazon DE on launch day because I trust Amazon way more than OnePlus as far as delivery times and the phone was sold directly by Amazon from their own stock. And now to find out I have no manufacturer warranty ? I don't think the EU laws allows OnePlus to treat their customers like idiots, I would immediately complain to the authorities. Hopefully this is all a huge misunderstanding.
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Regardless of whether it's a misunderstanding or not, the op should still complain. It's unacceptable behavior from oneplus
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Here in the UK (and I assume the rest of the EU) your purchase contract is with the supplier who supplied the goods to you and not the manufacturer. Thus the warranty is also with the supplier. If the goods are faulty then the supplier should repair/replace and then it's up to the supplier to sort it out with the manufacturer.

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Here in the UK (and I assume the rest of the EU) your purchase contract is with the supplier who supplied the goods to you and not the manufacturer. Thus the warranty is also with the supplier. If the goods are faulty then the supplier should repair/replace and then it's up to the supplier to sort it out with the manufacturer.
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Yes, and I agree, I am in the UK as well BTW. But that is not always the case, for example I bought my old phone from carphone, and when it developed a fault, they sent me to HTC to sort it out, and HTC didn't kick up a fuss. It's just oneplus's response to this that's annoying me. If th supplier/reseller sends it to OnePlus anyway, why can the end user not do the same, saving a good deal of time in the process?

about tampering and similar topics:
in my case oneplus, after reviewing all the logs i sent to them on request and looking into it the ADMITTED a production error and
the only reason why they don't give warranty is that i bought from amazon.
why not buy from oneplus?
no specific reason, since when does one have to justify the store where he buys things as long as the store is reputable and not known to sell stolen stuff etc.?
i'd say that 90% of all goods are purchased from stores that are not owned by the manufacturers.
i bought from amazon because i buy anything i can from them hassle free for years and it's mostly about ease of use and that the courier knows me, my address and so on. it's simply a well established relationship with them.
even if i purchase a new phone on day 2 from a friend who bought it form oneplus they have to provide warranty, in fact oem warranty has really nothing to do with the place of purchase. just think about anything else you purchase wherever you find and like it.
these are simple tricks to reduce responsibilities and to make cash with faulty products.
after all the details should not matter. they deliver a new device to whoever and after one months want money to repair their own fault
after they approved/admitted the fault. all the rest is kind of blabla.... it's faulty, it's new, it has ben purchased at full price from serious
website.
if they think we should not buy from amazon then why do they sell thousands of devices to resellers even before the official release?
or does anyone think that all those thousands of devices on amazone were available on release day without oneplus knowing?
they must have shipped shiploads of devices to amazon resellers worldwide, hence it's all excuse talk and since the devices cost now between
520 and 650 euros that's not acceptable anyways. no cheap thing that has been purchased through dark channels.

What state do you live in? CA has protection for consumers. Ask them to point you to their written policy stating those purchases are not covered under warranty, if they produce a link read it carefully looking for holes. If they are covered contact Amazon and ask to show you where in their product placement it says .... The policy... If it does not Amazon should take it back as they sold it under a bait and switch scheme.
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Ali Express Recommendations

Anyone have any recommendations regarding reliable stores on Ali Express
The 7 pro is about 1 to 200 euro cheaper there at the moment.
I understand that it will be china model but seems like a deal.
Anyone any experience with this ?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Oneplus/311331_515316811.html?spm=a2g17.12010608.nav-list.36.44257b99Ma8S05
This is the seller which my friend is working with. He is trusted since me and my friends bought a lot from him.

So you save up to 200 euro to wait at least 30 days for shipping from a sketchy retailer you have no info on.
Or just wait 25 days, you will potentially be able to save up that extra 200 euro, then order directly from oneplus or another trusted retailer near you and get it in the same or possibly sooner time frame and it will be the correct model for your region.

manus31 said:
Anyone have any recommendations regarding reliable stores on Ali Express
The 7 pro is about 1 to 200 euro cheaper there at the moment.
I understand that it will be china model but seems like a deal.
Anyone any experience with this ?
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Personally wouldn't purchase through sites like this

Hunter3U said:
So you save up to 200 euro to wait at least 30 days for shipping from a sketchy retailer you have no info on.
Or just wait 25 days, you will potentially be able to save up that extra 200 euro, then order directly from oneplus or another trusted retailer near you and get it in the same or possibly sooner time frame and it will be the correct model for your region.
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I think your missing the point,
I'd still have to pay €750 for the phone that way I could actually do that now if I wanted to but I wouldn't be saving anything

Site is trusted & tested ,If Anything goes wrong AliExpress team Steps in & Almost gives decision in favour of customer. They Even sometimes flash International rom on it. I ordered Oneplus 1 from them & several items afterwards

dorsefrith said:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Oneplus/311331_515316811.html?spm=a2g17.12010608.nav-list.36.44257b99Ma8S05
This is the seller which my friend is working with. He is trusted since me and my friends bought a lot from him.
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I just got information from the seller that If you write a message to this seller during the order and give him my nick as a code: Dorsefrith you will get 5% discount
You will have to wait with payment until he lowers the price.

Gone off the idea of using AliExpress,seems it's hit or miss when you will actually receive the device and stores advertising 6-8 days DHL is just an empty promise and then you've got the possibility of dealing with Customs,It's easy to get pulled in with the prices but overall not worth the hassle.

Gearbest is decent should be faster than Ali Express and some coupons for discount, Also avoid DHL they're a scam. I've had problems with them in the past with custom charges etc.

I want to buy from Gearbest but the phone was sell only from China or Hong Kong warehouse. Price was Good.
In my country, 19% vat + 2-4% custom... NO ! Thanks. But NO!
I both from a sales forum in my country a blue OnePlus 7 pro 8gb-256gb with 550 euro . Wonderful!

null0seven said:
I want to buy from Gearbest but the phone was sell only from China or Hong Kong warehouse. Price was Good.
In my country, 19% vat + 2-4% custom... NO ! Thanks. But NO!
I both from a sales forum in my country a blue OnePlus 7 pro 8gb-256gb with 550 euro . Wonderful!
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You'll still pay import taxes, if not then it's an illegal sale.