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[Q] New Sidekick/Android user with Root/Roms questions ;-)

Hello everyone.
Recently ordered a Samsung Sidekick 4G and reading on the forums
I noticed people saying that this device lags a lot, has random FCs, etc. and
that they way of getting "rid" of this was by rooting and installing
custom roms. As you might have figured by my low post count, I'm
a newbie with regards to Android phones or Android in general. So
I have a couple of questions.
I know where to look if I want to take the chance and do this
by following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275116
(thank God and moderators for stickies!-- making life easier )
But I would like to know:
1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart
from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?
Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?
2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have
an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think
is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for
a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want
to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)
And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't
even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting
don't want to think about repeating the process of the link
above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your
experiences.
3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom
Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do
custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??
4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it
be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people
that don't get OTA updates?
5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"
the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?
Finally,
6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?
Hope you can help me with these questions if you can.
And if you don't want to help me... then ... I'll be sad...
for a couple of minutes! ;-)
BTW I also ordered an LG Optimus Quantum just to also try the Windows
OS and compare between both, Android and Windows experiences
(I come from Symbian... Nokia FTW!!! ;-))
Thanks!

to question 4 it will be incorporated to the customs roms no doubt
to question 2 i have used gingerclone v2, lighting rom v2 , touchmiuiwiz, and glorious i like glorious the most so far and dislike lighting v2 the most gingerclone and touchmiui is the same rom different themes
to question 5 you can still root it and overclock it
to question 1 you get d can get better battery life, less bloatware, better signal,
to question 3 on the ota we used kg2 which was an ota as a mix with kd1

that was harsh xtreme .

saying i disliked the rom the most when basically i used 3 roms? thats not being harsh

IMO any rom developed by ayoteddy is worth checking out. Also always be sure to fully read each rom thread's first post; everything you need to know should be there.
And personally I wouldn't flash any rom or attempt to root until you're comfortable using adb commands (I've soft bricked a couple of phones myself and that's no fun at all).
There's a bunch of good youtube tutorials outlining everything from rooting to flashing custom roms. Good luck with everything and welcome to the sk4g family!
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It was not harsh. lol. it's his opinion.

I have used gcv2 and glorius i loved the first but the later is def. Better, u can root without a custom rom. And dont fret about flashing a rom, this is my first phone that iv flashed, rooted etc. And yes after a week or so the stock launcher started lagging. Although i only got fc's on zeam
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Thanks for the responses so far!
And I'll definitely stick with the stock settings but if I begin to experience bugs or lags, I'll definitely look into this! Now I have to check why the heck I'm only getting EDGE!! WTF?!! lol
Thanks.

go to wireless ettings and swtich from gsm to gs/wcda mode

I FAILED!!! :-(
I think I'm going to have to resell this phone on eBay...
I just noticed WHY it wont connect in 3G... T-Mobile phones seem to be "configured" to use the 1700 band but my service provider does 3G like AT&T and I think they use 1900...
Oh well... back to my second option... the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro...
Thanks guys!

gelocks said:
But I would like to know:
1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart
from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?
Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?
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with a custom ROM battery usage decreases in some cases and it also allows for more customization of your phone. Like in some ROMs you can change your transition effects, dock settings, and menu settings. It allows you to pick how you want your phone to look. For most people that got the OTA update their phone got really bad with freezes and force closes, you'd have to reboot your phone every day. In the end if you don't like a ROM you can always switch back.
2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have
an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think
is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for
a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want
to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)
And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't
even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting
don't want to think about repeating the process of the link
above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your
experiences.
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I've tried a few and at the moment i'm using glorious overdose by ayoteddy and sduvick. This ROM is very smooth and very nice but doesn't allow for as much customization as touchMUI or GingerClone. TouchMui allows you to customize the behaviors of your phone like menu, transitions, etc. through launcherpro which comes with the ROM, BUT it wants you to buy launcherPro when you try to do certain functions. Now i'm a newby too, barely rooted and flashed my phone a few weeks ago, as well as somebody that works with me. I've also experienced alot less forceclose issues with glorious overdose.
3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom
Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do
custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??
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There aren't really that many OTA updates but from what i've seen the devs here get stuff before it's actually released, such as KJ2, which we havent officially recieved yet. The one OTA update that happened actually made the phone run like crap, excuse my language.
4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it
be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people
that don't get OTA updates?
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Somebody will probably post a version of it on the forums and devs will most likely use it as soon as they get their hands on it, IF there's still deving going on for this phone at that time.
5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"
the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?
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yes you can, I did that before i actually flashed my phone. root is a different thing than flashing a custom ROM to your phone.
Finally,
6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?
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according to wikipedia, The meaning of life constitutes a philosophical question concerning the purpose and significance of life or existence in general.

6 the purpose of life is to find the answer to that question yourself...

How is the Moto G 4G/LTE for rooting/ROM'ing?

I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
Thanks

nubreed000 said:
I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
Thanks
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the experience is overall good i guess..

Rooting Easy
nubreed000 said:
I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
Thanks
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Rooting the LTE is very easy. There are a few ROMs available, but at present (in my case) the have too many significant bugs - wifi only works on some routers, RAM freezes after a couple of days use.
Carbon and CM are very stable except for the above two bugs for me. But others users are either having no problems or different ones.
SlimKat has just been added to the official page so hopefully they'll get that up and running but it currently just bootloops for me.

It works out alright I guess at least on CM and Carbon (same core dev). Be warned, if you are on 4.4.4 you won't be able to return to stock since there is no image file out there. Downgrading to 4.4.3 is not possible as far as I know.

Slim also just came out with a first build of peregrine. Works pretty well so far, but does not yet support moving apps to the SD card ... next build or two hopefully. The phone only came out in June, so the work is still in progress.

[Q] Best Custom and stable rom for LG G2 D801?

Hello,
im new here
and I just got into the flashing and the custom roms scene not too long ago, i found myself flashing and bricking and unbricking my phone in a matter of 4 days..
and i have been looking for a custom rom with a lot of features and that is stable for the LG G2 d801 ( T-Mobile variant )
most of those i found were nightly's or experimental
so im looking for something that has good features and stable something like dirty unicorns... that i couldnt find any download for it..
any help would be appreicated

I use cloudyG3 2.2 (listed as cloudyg2 2.2) and love it. It takes the updated skin of the LG G3 and puts it on the LG G2.
Things lost: Wifi calling and most likely hd voice on t-mobile. Things gained: almost ridiculous battery life, smooth interface.
I've also used Resurrection Remix 5.3.2
Things Lost: wifi calling, hd voice, battery life, xposed support
Things gained: non-skinned Android 5.0.2 with smoother transitions and great performance
In general, look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development
for roms that support D80* as they have wide userbases so more development. Hope that answers your questions.
Truth91 said:
Hello,
im new here
and I just got into the flashing and the custom roms scene not too long ago, i found myself flashing and bricking and unbricking my phone in a matter of 4 days..
and i have been looking for a custom rom with a lot of features and that is stable for the LG G2 d801 ( T-Mobile variant )
most of those i found were nightly's or experimental
so im looking for something that has good features and stable something like dirty unicorns... that i couldnt find any download for it..
any help would be appreicated
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well i just flashed it.
and i do appreciate all the help and the info u gave me.. gonna test battery life and performance and smoothness
thanks again !
rp3 said:
I use cloudyG3 2.2 (listed as cloudyg2 2.2) and love it. It takes the updated skin of the LG G3 and puts it on the LG G2.
Things lost: Wifi calling and most likely hd voice on t-mobile. Things gained: almost ridiculous battery life, smooth interface.
I've also used Resurrection Remix 5.3.2
Things Lost: wifi calling, hd voice, battery life, xposed support
Things gained: non-skinned Android 5.0.2 with smoother transitions and great performance
In general, look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development
for roms that support D80* as they have wide userbases so more development. Hope that answers your questions.
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Does this phone just hate custom ROMs?

I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.

klokwyze said:
I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
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Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling

jamesd1085 said:
Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
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yeah wifi calling is irrelevant to me, but frankly this stock ROM is amazing compared to the performance of my Relay 4G.... H/W keyboard android phones RIP.
Cheers

I have the Intl version which sports more custom roms but they are all the same more or less.... im on stock KK too even though i was a die hard software updater (had 5.1.1 on previous Nexus 4).
Have to agree with you this phone hates modding and is really feeble, it will get bricked quite easy unlike the Nexus 4 which can take a lot of abuse

Try the new cloudy rom. It's a port from LG G4 with various elements.

why dont you guys check in the G2 Android Development. most roms cover all variants there.

For me CynaogenMod's Privacy Guard feature is a must-have on any Android phone. But right now I'm finding that the official CM12 nightlies seems to screw up the modem settings for my local carrier here in Canda (Wind), so I lose access to the service. Constructive suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Stock-Based ROMs?

I recently flashed CM12.1 and am finding it to be not to my liking. I'm pretty sure that all of my gripes are essentially issues from it not having access to the LG OEM drivers, resulting in things like being unable to override the screen dimming at low temperatures, and a clumsy camera interface
As such, I have been thinking about going back to stock - but am debating a) which version of stock to flash and b) if perhaps there are stock-based custom ROMs that would provide a better experience for me than pure-stock, while retaining OEM driver stabilities and capabilities.
Priorities for me, in order, are:
Stability
LG Device issues (driver related: brightness / overheat, camera fluidity, SD, etc.)
Bloat / speed / fluidity
Native or easily implementable: titanium backup, full gapps, assignable volume key lock screen shortcuts, root, tweaksbox, tether (USB & wifi)
Battery life
Newish Android version
What Stock-based ROMs would you guys recommend I take a look at, as such?
Please note I'm *not* asking, "which ROM is best" or dinner such nonsense; just what ROMs would be good to take a look at for those sorts of qualities?
Thanks!! ^-^

Okay, so from what I'm seeing, I'm thinking Cloudy 2.5 might be the way to go? It's stable, stock-based, well-vetted...

I'd suggest fulmics rom (current version 3.7)
It has now become kinda like cloudy's successor, since cloudy's developer doesnt update it anymore

cela_elis said:
I'd suggest fulmics rom (current version 3.7)
It has now become kinda like cloudy's successor, since cloudy's developer doesnt update it anymore
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3.7 is pretty stable if ure not ready for mm try 2.7 fulmics better than cloudy