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Root Without Unlocking Bootloader

Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?

No ETA pls
Let's wait

funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta

I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!

funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment

I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.

wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.

Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.

Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?

Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me

Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.

cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.

Advice needed: root or not to root?

Hi all.
I'm a long-time Android user. I managed to make my old HTC One M7 running alternately cyanogenmod and Google Play edition last for three years or so, and just switched this week to a lovely new S7 here in the UK.
It looks to be the perfect phone- very fast, nicely designed, lovely camera.
The first thing I did was install CF-autoroot, but I chose not to affect the system partition with the decryption option yet as I didn't know whether this would be strictly necessary yet. Then i installed titanium backup and restored all my apps and app-data from the HTC.
So, here I am a few days in, and I'm considering whether I should de-root it and go back to stock. My battery life isn't great, and by my reading it really should be. I'm getting to need a charger by ~7pm.
Things I want:
1- android pay is excellent- the option to never have to have my wallet with me is really attractive.
2- good battery life
In the past I've been a great fan of having TWRP to do backups, and switching between different ROMS using titanium backup to restore apps. I've always run xposed to tweak things.
Now, my basic understanding here is that xposed and root mean that I can't use android pay. That really does swing it for me.
Unfortunately the battery life is also currently a problem. I'd like to get rid of all the useless samsung bloat as well.
The options appear to me to be:
1. Wipe and go full stock, unrooted.
2. Remove verity and start from scratch with a debloated ROM. Lose android pay.
3. Stay as I am and accept that the battery probably isn't as good as I'd hoped.
4. Unrooted stock and somehow debloat without using root (don't know how to do this without titanium backup 'feeze' option).
Is there an optimum way forward here? I'd appreciate advice.

4. Unrooted stock and somehow debloat without using root (don't know how to do this without titanium backup 'feeze' option). <<< look for Package Disabler Pro in Play Store, I used it to disable (but not delete) lots of bloatware. It does not require's root, it installs as Device Manager so you'll have to authorize it.
So far I'm happy with the battery life I get from my S7, no need to root & try to improve battery life so far as I had to do with all my previous Androids.

pingtiao said:
Hi all.
I'm a long-time Android user. I managed to make my old HTC One M7 running alternately cyanogenmod and Google Play edition last for three years or so, and just switched this week to a lovely new S7 here in the UK.
It looks to be the perfect phone- very fast, nicely designed, lovely camera.
The first thing I did was install CF-autoroot, but I chose not to affect the system partition with the decryption option yet as I didn't know whether this would be strictly necessary yet. Then i installed titanium backup and restored all my apps and app-data from the HTC.
So, here I am a few days in, and I'm considering whether I should de-root it and go back to stock. My battery life isn't great, and by my reading it really should be. I'm getting to need a charger by ~7pm.
Things I want:
1- android pay is excellent- the option to never have to have my wallet with me is really attractive.
2- good battery life
In the past I've been a great fan of having TWRP to do backups, and switching between different ROMS using titanium backup to restore apps. I've always run xposed to tweak things.
Now, my basic understanding here is that xposed and root mean that I can't use android pay. That really does swing it for me.
Unfortunately the battery life is also currently a problem. I'd like to get rid of all the useless samsung bloat as well.
The options appear to me to be:
1. Wipe and go full stock, unrooted.
2. Remove verity and start from scratch with a debloated ROM. Lose android pay.
3. Stay as I am and accept that the battery probably isn't as good as I'd hoped.
4. Unrooted stock and somehow debloat without using root (don't know how to do this without titanium backup 'feeze' option).
Is there an optimum way forward here? I'd appreciate advice.
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You can disable bloat with package disabler pro, from play store. No need to root and list of what safe to freeze is availlable here on lovely xda. Or you can do it manually with app manager.

Owners! Are you surviving without root?

Hey Sprint Galaxy S8 owners,
I'm looking to upgrade from S6 soon, and wondering how everyone is coping without root?
How did you get your apps (and app data) over to the new phone without Titanium Backup?

It's going good. Can't say I really miss root though. Maybe just YouTube background. As for ads, I use a VPN anyway and there's an option to block ads so that's not an issue. I had to start brand new when it came to app data. No big deal for me. I haven't had root since october, when I got my S7 and no root was available.

The Android Attorney said:
It's going good. Can't say I really miss root though. Maybe just YouTube background. As for ads, I use a VPN anyway and there's an option to block ads so that's not an issue. I had to start brand new when it came to app data. No big deal for me. I haven't had root since october, when I got my S7 and no root was available.
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That's promising. The things I really use root for are:
Titanium Backup
Unlimited HotSpot (Sprint)
OS Customization Hacks (Status Bar, etc)
And before I upgraded to Android N, I used a ton of Xposed modules.

muzicman82 said:
That's promising. The things I really use root for are:
Titanium Backup
Unlimited HotSpot (Sprint)
OS Customization Hacks (Status Bar, etc)
And before I upgraded to Android N, I used a ton of Xposed modules.
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I still miss Titanium Backup, but am surviving so far without root. A few apps (like uber, lyft and navigation) work better without root (while they do their best to vacuum up my info).
As for unlimited hotspot--- there's a pretty simple workaround which has been posted elsewhere so you can still have it. Only catch is every time you update your profile, you might have to re-do the simple workaround.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s8+/help/hotspot-workaround-t3608619/page3
Also-- I've found that the $1.99 app BK Disabler (PLUS THE PLUGIN, YOU MUST ALSO INSTALL THE PLUGIN) is definitely worth it. It let's you disable much of the otherwise blocked spam and notification apps and packages.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplysecuresolution.pdplugin
It has a widget functionality so that I can turn off and on a whole group of packages with a single click-- like location-- which I only use when i need it for navigation, but otherwise don't want to be tracked.
Hope this helps some.

Just got the S8. So here we go! My first order of business is trying to get my AppData transferred. Hoping Helium does its thing.
Next, I'm not much of a fan of AI or personal assistants.. I might get used to it, but that Bixby button would make a great back or home button. Actually, I'd be fine with it just being press to go Home and hold for kill app.

Good news, it looks like root has been achieved. Just waiting for the release!

OMG.. Best news of the day!

fever308 said:
Good news, it looks like root has been achieved. Just waiting for the release!
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It's only going to be for the S8+ for now until they get the files tbey need for the S8
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all s8s
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Do Magisk and Xposed actually root your phone? Or are they just tools for rooting?

I just got an S22 Ultra, and I'm really missing the Now Playing feature from my Pixel (along with several others, but this is the biggest one). I'd like to try and install the Ambient Music Mod, which looks like it might be the only option for this, but it requires both Magisk and Xposed according to their git. I don't really want to root my new phone. I sometimes have had bad luck with that in the past. Will Magisk and Xposed either root my phone or require root? Or are they just tools that go on the phone so that other tools can be installed?

Elarionus said:
I just got an S22 Ultra, and I'm really missing the Now Playing feature from my Pixel (along with several others, but this is the biggest one). I'd like to try and install the Ambient Music Mod, which looks like it might be the only option for this, but it requires both Magisk and Xposed according to their git. I don't really want to root my new phone. I sometimes have had bad luck with that in the past. Will Magisk and Xposed either root my phone or require root? Or are they just tools that go on the phone so that other tools can be installed?
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I start root Android from S2 and I finish to note 9, I have a lot phones different Android and iPhone, but now on s22 I stop root. Why? Because you just lost a lot time for play on root.... and possible happening, when you go shopping and You card it's home... you just can't pay , just because one simple update your phone it's detected rooted. So no time for playing this thing's.

Good way to disable apps without uninstalling them to preserve battery for a trip?

I am going on a 2 week hiking/camping trip next month. I'm on stock pixel 7 rooted. I want my phone battery to last as long as possible, as I will have limited opportunities to charge my phone (e.g. I have a solar panel battery pack for charging only). I would mainly use my phone for maps, text and take pictures on my 2 week journey and service will be going in and out.
I don't want to uninstall all non-essential apps (e.g. push notification, them running in the background would use up battery power) on my phone as it's a pain to reinstall and restore the data. I know one option is use titanium backup and freeze app.
However, I do see an option to add a profile/user. I am wondering if the Android users feature would work like on a windows computer. If I create a user and log on as that user on my phone, would the apps on my main profile/user is still active and running in the background, thus kill the battery? Would having the other user, break the root/lsposed on my phone?
Are there any other options out there these days that I should consider? I remember Greenify was thing 10 years ago, but I'm pretty much out of touch these days

Such excursions in nature are an opportunity to change habits and relax. You will do best by taking two other backup phones.

If you're not rooted you can probably use Package Disabler. There's a non Samsung version. Ask them by email.

blackhawk said:
If you're not rooted you can probably use Package Disabler. There's a non Samsung version. Ask them by email.
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im rooted

pennywaltz said:
im rooted
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Than you should have better options. I haven't explore disabler options for rooted phones as I run stock.