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Hi guys
As some of you know I've been having problems with my lg g2 and i think I'm going to give up and buy a new phone.
I've narrowed it down to either a HTC M8 or a Samsung S5.
I know there seems to be an unlimited amount of reviews on the internet but you cant always go by spec alone and to be honest a lot of them seem a bit biased or favour the htc just because its not as popular as a Samsung phone.
I actually went out to a phone shop today to buy the S5 but they had sold out and while i was in there i had a look at the M8 and i was really tempted to go for it.
The pros on both phones for me are (so you can get an idea on what I'm looking for in a phone):
Samsung S5:
1. Camera (this is a big one for me).
2. Reputable brand with a lot of service centres should things go wrong.
3. Parts easy to get.
4. takes a micro sd card.
I'm not too fussed about the gimmicks such as the finger print scanner, heart monitor, water resistance.
Bad points:
1. feels a bit like cheap plastic to hold.
HTC M8
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster than the s5.
4. Takes a micro sd card.
Not too fussed about the boom sound speaker as my phone is on vibrate most of the time and i don't walk down the street playing music out of my phone (why do kids do that...lol)
Bad points:
1. Camera (i use my phones camera a lot).
2. I noticed that the display model in store had a lot of paint chips (it was gunmetal grey) so I'm not sure if this phone will stay looking good.
3. doesn't have a removable battery
Another thing you don't hear about in reviews.......
I always stock root my android phones so what one is the easiest to root and unroot if i need to return it under warranty.
And i remember when i rooted a htc one mini, that there was problems every time htc pushed out an update, is that the same with samsung.
What do you guys think?
Inked_ said:
Hi guys
As some of you know I've been having problems with my lg g2 and i think I'm going to give up and buy a new phone.
I've narrowed it down to either a HTC M8 or a Samsung S5.
I know there seems to be an unlimited amount of reviews on the internet but you cant always go by spec alone and to be honest a lot of them seem a bit biased or favour the htc just because its not as popular as a Samsung phone.
I actually went out to a phone shop today to buy the S5 but they had sold out and while i was in there i had a look at the M8 and i was really tempted to go for it.
The pros on both phones for me are (so you can get an idea on what I'm looking for in a phone):
Samsung S5:
1. Camera (this is a big one for me).
2. Reputable brand with a lot of service centres should things go wrong.
3. Parts easy to get.
4. takes a micro sd card.
I'm not too fussed about the gimmicks such as the finger print scanner, heart monitor, water resistance.
Bad points:
1. feels a bit like cheap plastic to hold.
HTC M8
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster than the s5.
4. Takes a micro sd card.
Not too fussed about the boom sound speaker as my phone is on vibrate most of the time and i don't walk down the street playing music out of my phone (why do kids do that...lol)
Bad points:
1. Camera (i use my phones camera a lot).
2. I noticed that the display model in store had a lot of paint chips (it was gunmetal grey) so I'm not sure if this phone will stay looking good.
3. doesn't have a removable battery
Another thing you don't hear about in reviews.......
I always stock root my android phones so what one is the easiest to root and unroot if i need to return it under warranty.
And i remember when i rooted a htc one mini, that there was problems every time htc pushed out an update, is that the same with samsung.
What do you guys think?
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If you wanna root, Samsung is a no go because of Knox. But since you require a good camera, you might want to consider Sony (but their boot loader unlocking process might be a little troublesome).
I'm not sure about HTCs as I've never touched one before. The boot loader might trouble you too, as with Sony devices.
My personal recommendation is an Oppo Find 7 or a One Plus One. Their rooting process is quite simple and AFAIK Oppo doesn't void warranty if you root in some countries.
Hope you get a good phone
Sent from a Nameless fellow licking Lollipop.
Singaporean Oppo Find 7a
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Irwenzhao said:
If you wanna root, Samsung is a no go because of Knox. But since you require a good camera, you might want to consider Sony (but their boot loader unlocking process might be a little troublesome).
I'm not sure about HTCs as I've never touched one before. The boot loader might trouble you too, as with Sony devices.
My personal recommendation is an Oppo Find 7 or a One Plus One. Their rooting process is quite simple and AFAIK Oppo doesn't void warranty if you root in some countries.
Hope you get a good phone
Sent from a Nameless fellow licking Lollipop.
Singaporean Oppo Find 7a
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Thanks for the reply
I've not read up on knox yet but I've read a lot of people have rooted their s5 without any problems
Something else I need to consider between the s5 and m8 is heat.
I'm sure the root cause of the problems with my g2 was it heating up while being on it a long time or watching videos.
Do any of these phone have heat issues?
Also what one should get the latest android os for the longest (I think htc guarantee a minimum of 2 years) ?
You should wait for the m9. Samsung is a definite no go if you want to root. Build quality is also very good on the m8 and will most likely improve with the m9.
I would highly suggest waiting g for the m9 as HTC is dumping their ultrapixel technology and the camera will most likely jump ALOT. It is rumored to be announced within the next month, but if not, then it should be announced by, let's say, April or May. If you don't want to wait, try maybe an Lg G3 or even a Nexus 5.
Cheers and happy device hunting!
ANDR01DN00B said:
You should wait for the m9. Samsung is a definite no go if you want to root. Build quality is also very good on the m8 and will most likely improve with the m9.
I would highly suggest waiting g for the m9 as HTC is dumping their ultrapixel technology and the camera will most likely jump ALOT. It is rumored to be announced within the next month, but if not, then it should be announced by, let's say, April or May. If you don't want to wait, try maybe an Lg G3 or even a Nexus 5.
Cheers and happy device hunting!
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I really cant wait so it needs to be the s5 or m8.
I've lost trust in lg and the nexus doesn't have a sd card slot.
Im actually shocked that your all saying that I shouldn't get the s5 because of root (I thought it would be something like the build quality...lol) as ive read loads of people have rooted their s5's.
I think they use something called towelroot and oden pro to flash the firmware?
I've just read that you can uninstall knox, is this true?
No you cannot uninstall Knox. The issue with the s5 is that when you install a custom recovery, it tells Knox something is wrong and your warranty becomes PERMANENTLY voided. Knox is permanent whether you are running a Touchwiz ROM or a Stock Android ROM.
Trust me if knox was uninstallable I would've bought the s4 over my m7.
The build quality is OK on the s5 but the m8 outplays it by 5,000,000%.
ANDR01DN00B said:
No you cannot uninstall Knox. The issue with the s5 is that when you install a custom recovery, it tells Knox something is wrong and your warranty becomes PERMANENTLY voided. Knox is permanent whether you are running a Touchwiz ROM or a Stock Android ROM.
Trust me if knox was uninstallable I would've bought the s4 over my m7.
The build quality is OK on the s5 but the m8 outplays it by 5,000,000%.
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ok thanks
The m8 seems a lot easier to root as you can still use htcdev...etc the only thing im not sure about is what to do when htc update thing like sense...etc as I remember there being a problem with update as htc detect the custom recovery.
The things that are holding me back from the M8 are:
1. No removable battery.
2. The camera (4 ultra pixel).
3. htc as a brand compared with the likes of Samsung (devs do more for Samsung and there's more accessories for Samsung).
4. s5 has a LOT more features.
If I could get me head passed all that then I would go for it....lol
I would go for the Htc
I've been using the Htc for the past few years, I've got friends whose got the S5 and the M8.
Sadly my friend with the S5 was pretty disappointed with the phone( I'll get to know more about the trouble when i meet him on monday) But however my friend with the M8 which he had used it for some time now, he never complains about it in fact it runs pretty smooth, but the only problem with the phone is the battery, or otherwise it's a real good phone. On my point of view i trust the Htc since it's made in my country and the service here is excellent.
I hope you made up your mind soon and will be happy with your new phone
Cheers!! (And sorry for the bad English):good:
Inked_ said:
ok thanks The m8 seems a lot easier to root as you can still use htcdev...etc the only thing im not sure about is what to do when htc update thing like sense...etc as I remember there being a problem with update as htc detect the custom recovery.
The things that are holding me back from the M8 are:
1. No removable battery.
2. The camera (4 ultra pixel).
3. htc as a brand compared with the likes of Samsung (devs do more for Samsung and there's more accessories for Samsung).
4. s5 has a LOT more features.
If I could get me head passed all that then I would go for it....lol
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Well yes when you enter the bootloader after installing a custom recovery it will show "TAMPERED" at the top, but unlike knox, this can be reset/removed with S-OFF
1)I dont see the point in a removable battery (the battery is actually really good despite the smaller size)
2)Yeah... it's not the best and definitely could be the worst
3)There are still ALOT of cases for the m8 (even dome dope ones not for the m7 )
4)Those extra features are more gimmic-y really IMO and it does in fact take up more RAM and in turn battery
(yes, I am an HTC fanboy :silly
@SinkRate
Thanks for your input and there's nothing wrong with your english
@ANDR01DNOOB
So do you have the M8 ?
I suppose the battery isn't such a big issue as a lot of phones come without removable batteries now.
I've been using the HTC one mini for the past couple of days ( a loan while i sort out a phone) and I'm not really taking to it very much and I'm thinking that the m8 would just be an upgraded version of this.
How do you go about putting the phone back to stock for warranty?
Also what do you do when htc push out an update to your rooted phone?
I remember htc detecting root (i think it was the custom firmware) and not allowing the phone to install the updates.
No actually I don't have an m8 but I have spent 3+ days with one
A long process, and it requires soff, which some m8s aren't capable of having. If you need soff that bad, Sunshine will probably work with a charge of $25
Usually when an update is pushed out, you can install the stock recovery and flash the ota.
No no you're probably thinking of something else.
ANDR01DN00B said:
No actually I don't have an m8 but I have spent 3+ days with one
A long process, and it requires soff, which some m8s aren't capable of having. If you need soff that bad, Sunshine will probably work with a charge of $25
Usually when an update is pushed out, you can install the stock recovery and flash the ota.
No no you're probably thinking of something else.
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So really both S5 and M8 can be rooted and both of them have their own problems when it comes to unrooting them for warranty?
That was the problem I had, I looked everywhere for the stock recovery but I couldn't find it anywhere.
All I found was replies saying to put the update on the ignore list....lol
Inked_ said:
So really both S5 and M8 can be rooted and both of them have their own problems when it comes to unrooting them for warranty?
That was the problem I had, I looked everywhere for the stock recovery but I couldn't find it anywhere.
All I found was replies saying to put the update on the ignore list....lol
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Yep... No phone is perfect.
Rooting the S5 does not necessarily trip KNOX. Stop that nonsense.
Installing a custom firmware or recovery trips KNOX. Not rooting, at least not all methods. You just need to do it before updating. The older the firmware, the easier it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2nd-method-t2843044/post54719865#post54719865
CF-Autoroot, however, does trigger it.
If you are in the EU KNOX is irrelevant.
Now, as for the rest.
A lot of people prefer HTC just because they have the desire to feel 'different' from the crowd, which they believe they can achieve by hating the largest brand. An ungodly amount of hipsters use HTC for that reason. This greatly affects people's opinions both here and in reviews. Samsung is starting to become what Apple is: hated for being popular.
Both phones will get warm. It's a powerhouse without any form of fan or heatsink. The cover is literally the only heatsink.
The M8 will get warmer because it's made of metal. That's the advantage of plastic. Plastic also dents and scratches a lot less. However, some have reported that the bezel of their S5 is loosing its metallic paint.
Personally I always use an otterbox case so I can't comment on the feel of the devices.
The camera on the S5 is much, much better.
The speaker quality of the M8 is enormously better.
The M8 is bigger and heavier, despite having a smaller screen size.
The S5 has an AMOLED screen. That means infinite contrast ratio, higher colour saturation (can be turned down), much better legible in direct sunlight and more battery efficient. (black=led off).
The M8 has an FM stereo. The S5 does not. If that matters (for many it does), keep that in mind.
The S5 has a lot of features, but nearly all of them can just be turned off with a simple toggle, or uninstalled/disabled even without root. My S5 uses about 800MB RAM without running apps. Not rooted. (did replace Touchwiz with Apex, saved me +-300MB) goes up to about 1.2GB when running Firefox, N7player, Facebook, Whatsapp and Gmail simultaneously.
The water&dust resistance is actually a useful gimmick in rainy countries.
You also need to physically look at the phones. Which one do you feel happier with just looking at it? Because if you truly don't like the look of one, you'll grow to dislike the phone itself eventually, regardless of its performance.
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maybe you can get that HTC, or maybe samsung
from my opinion samsung sometimes got overpriced
about camera issue, maybe it can help with a little retouch with app like photoshop touch (just opinion hehe
I like the HTC M8 but I think you should go for Samsung Galaxy S5. As you said that you use camera a lot, so I think Samsung Galaxy S5 will be the best option for you.
Update.......
Before I start, I want to give a HUGE thanks to everyone that replied in this thread (if I haven't clicked you thanks button then let me know...lol)
I went with the S5 in the end and although its early days I've got to say im loving it so far.
I've put a tempered glass screen protector on it and im getting a case for it tomorrow.
Strange thing is that I've clicked manage apps and I cant see anything related to knox,.
Does this mean that I can safely root it and install custom recovery....etc without voiding the warranty ?
Inked_ said:
Update.......
Before I start, I want to give a HUGE thanks to everyone that replied in this thread (if I haven't clicked you thanks button then let me know...lol)
I went with the S5 in the end and although its early days I've got to say im loving it so far.
I've put a tempered glass screen protector on it and im getting a case for it tomorrow.
Strange thing is that I've clicked manage apps and I cant see anything related to knox,.
Does this mean that I can safely root it and install custom recovery....etc without voiding the warranty ?
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Go to download mode and check if there's something like this:
Code:
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
or something like that.
As @ShadowLea said, rooting won't void warranty but flashing a custom ROM/Kernel/Recovery will.
Inked_ said:
Hi guys
As some of you know I've been having problems with my lg g2 and i think I'm going to give up and buy a new phone.
I've narrowed it down to either a HTC M8 or a Samsung S5.
I know there seems to be an unlimited amount of reviews on the internet but you cant always go by spec alone and to be honest a lot of them seem a bit biased or favour the htc just because its not as popular as a Samsung phone.
I actually went out to a phone shop today to buy the S5 but they had sold out and while i was in there i had a look at the M8 and i was really tempted to go for it.
The pros on both phones for me are (so you can get an idea on what I'm looking for in a phone):
Samsung S5:
1. Camera (this is a big one for me).
2. Reputable brand with a lot of service centres should things go wrong.
3. Parts easy to get.
4. takes a micro sd card.
I'm not too fussed about the gimmicks such as the finger print scanner, heart monitor, water resistance.
Bad points:
1. feels a bit like cheap plastic to hold.
HTC M8
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster than the s5.
4. Takes a micro sd card.
Not too fussed about the boom sound speaker as my phone is on vibrate most of the time and i don't walk down the street playing music out of my phone (why do kids do that...lol)
Bad points:
1. Camera (i use my phones camera a lot).
2. I noticed that the display model in store had a lot of paint chips (it was gunmetal grey) so I'm not sure if this phone will stay looking good.
3. doesn't have a removable battery
Another thing you don't hear about in reviews.......
I always stock root my android phones so what one is the easiest to root and unroot if i need to return it under warranty.
And i remember when i rooted a htc one mini, that there was problems every time htc pushed out an update, is that the same with samsung.
What do you guys think?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5_vs_htc_one_m8-review-1067.php
Here's a full comparrison.
The HTC One M8 has a pretty bad 4MP Camera Resolution which makes Low-Light photos actually better.
The S5 can take 4k-Videos higher than the M8's Maximum Photo Resolution.
But the M8 has a nice Aluminium Design and very good Stereo-Front Facing Speakers.
It also has blinkfeed, you can like it or not.
The Dual Camera of the M8 makes nice picture effects possible.
The S5 is Water-Resistant and has a slightly better processing power.
The M8 is NOT Water Resistant but maybe survives Toilet Crashes
hi folks,
personally this is why i won t change:
I like micro USB, got tons of these cables
I like the way i change my battery so far no need to have a tray version
I like my 64 GB f**k 32
I Like my HD sound onboard, no need to see it as external module
I Like the manual video mode of my V10, stupid to not have added it to G5
I like my app tray
Won't upgrade because:
1) I love my screen size
2) Love the 2nd screen, its actually really handy.
3) Love the way I change my battery, and I'm fairly sure replacements are cheaper for the V10...
4) I love the wide angle selfie cam
5) Dat 64GB internal storage tho...
6) V10 looks sexier
Reasons I will consider upgrading:
1) Full Metal Body
2) Obviously, the LG and Friends modules and the cool way to swap batteries...
3) Probably easier to hold
4) Its newer (love new stuff lol)
5) Because it's not Samsung
6) Newer software
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youngpettyboi said:
Won't upgrade because:
1) I love my screen size
2) Love the 2nd screen, its actually really handy.
3) Love the way I change my battery, and I'm fairly sure replacements are cheaper for the V10...
4) I love the wide angle selfie cam
5) Dat 64GB internal storage tho...
6) V10 looks sexier
Reasons I will consider upgrading:
1) Full Metal Body
2) Obviously, the LG and Friends modules and the cool way to swap batteries...
3) Probably easier to hold
4) Its newer (love new stuff lol)
5) Because it's not Samsung
6) Newer software
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I likr the size and shape of my v10. G5 is ugly
I like 64 Gb internal.
I like my 16 Mp camera Dual back camera? why for?
I can root my H961N
and more....
why I won't?!??!
can't wait to dump this thing for the G5
I prefer phablet size!
It's too soon to upgrade.
I'm happy to wait and dream about the successor to the V10!
I love the battery tray thing though! *Click*
Here's hoping for the best of both worlds!
Sent from my pretty nifty brand new LG V10
I will get the G5 because:
1. I can.
2. If I'm going to be enslaved by Verizon and stuck with locked bootloaders/unrootable phones, might as well be the newest. First world problems, I know, right?
3. I don't pay for my phones or service anyway (my company does ), so might as well.
Won't upgrade because:
1) I don't consider it a upgrade. It's just newer.
I'm going to wait until CM13 is official and works on V10 and G5. To be honest I'd probably go with the G5 only because the battery is replaceable but not only that, the USB type C can be replaced if ever goes bad. This phone's battery can be replaced after charging. Maybe zerolemon makes a case that can give super extra battery life.
I'm really loving the fact that LG devices are supported by CM13 unlike Samsung. I admit I used to hate LG and never will forgive them for abandoning the G2X that I still hold on to. But if all works with CM13 as expected can't go wrong with v10 or the G5. Will wait for how development goes thats for sure.
if you buy the lg g5 from the v10 then you would be downgrading for sure, i love my v10 its got everything i need plus style the g5 just looks awful i mean come'on lg make a solid stylish product i mean like the g4 is awesome but a leather case that should not have been the default back casing you should have used the dura cover but anyways no go for the LG G5 ill pass
The only improvement on the G5 is the processor (lets see if it doesnt heat like the 10), otherwise: Ugly, fragile, smaller screen, no second screen, less memory, etc...
Reason why i dont upgrade
1. 64gb memory
2. screen to body ratio
3. second screen ( its been really useful for me as a power user its help me not wasting my time lolol )
4. there a feature that the G5 doesnt have
5. Same camera (G5 doesnt have manual control on video) although second camera at the back is 8mp wide
6. i really dont like the DAC came separately unlike V10 its implant
7. button layout the power button and volume T_T
8. no wide selfie camera (LG please)
9. i bet the assesories (feature) like dac and camera control cost something in which imo i dont like that kind of strategy
i think its better to wait for V20 or something newer in V series line this later year. the G5 is great but i mainly focus on camera and the camera on G5 is still the same as V10 and G4 (except second camera 8mp) in which not worth imo
Currently I'd stay with G4 and V10 because:
1. Both are rooted and bootloader unlocked (T-Mobile version).
2. Banner screen is pretty convenient.
3. 64GB (V10) internal storage is premium.
4. I like bigger screen.
5. I am not big on dual cam.
6. I am not big on full metal body.
I hope they don't mess up the next phone in the v series like the g5
nocomp said:
hi folks,
personally this is why i won t change:
I like micro USB, got tons of these cables
I like the way i change my battery so far no need to have a tray version
I like my 64 GB f**k 32
I Like my HD sound onboard, no need to see it as external module
I Like the manual video mode of my V10, stupid to not have added it to G5
I like my app tray
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Add to the list dual window. Why in the heck would the take away dual window.
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For me I like that LG is thinking out the box. But modules would be hard to carry. And the although G5 has the latest processor. Can't see it being much faster or smoother than this beast. And most importantly for me...5.3 Screen is wayyy to small. And can't live without the second screen. V10 is still the CHAMP!!!
I won't upgrade now because I don't see the G5 as a major improvement over the V10. I still have so far to go to max out the V10.
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The main reason I wont get a G5 because I just got the V10 three months ago
I won't upgrade because:
1) By the time V10 was released in Europe, we already knew G5 was coming out soon. V10 is an 2016 product in EU.
2) V10 is a stand-alone product, that does not compete in any series. This was important to me. I don't want a device that costs 700 euros only to find out a plus-version, or an XL-version or whatever upgraded version is coming within 2 months. I want a complete product, as is. Not something that I use for 4 months and then feel like **** when an upgraded version comes out which should've been the original.
3) G5 is ugly. There's no way around it. It's plain ugly. And the truth is, LG will lose to Samsung. I think it already has, if you compare pre-orders of g5 and s7 edge. A regular customer also will not be interested in buying stands and other add-ons that G5 is so eagerly promoting; they want a phone and they'll buy the rest separately - as standalone products. Not add-ons.
4) As much as I'm disappointed with V10, I won't be buying another LG product ever again. I said this 10 years ago when my brand new LG phone was ditched by LG and it wasn't going to be getting any updates at all, after 1 month of release. I can't remember what model it was, but I was pissed, as I had spent a lot of cash on it and made sure it was the top product right now. Just comes to show... The size and power of these devices surely has changed - LG's attitude towards consumers has not.
Same here, I simply don't like that ugly Asian style look of the G5. V10 is pretty hardware industrial design. But I'm disappointed, too. No updates, no communication with customers. I got the V10 because of the camera.
I love my v10 i wont change it with g5
Is there anybody who knows of where to buy the special edition of this phone? The white and 64gb model sold in Taiwan.
I know it's pretty late to be looking but I won't give up hope because this phone was the best phone I have ever had but I really want more storage space.
If anyone knows how to upgrade the storage through hardware modification I am also interested in that.
Thanks!
Zuffle
bought one on ebay, once - couldn't connect to any T-Mobile 4G or LTE, relegated to 2G. This was before the Qualcomm "add bands" hack, though -I think the hack could have made this phone work. White phone. Beautiful. Good luck.
I got two with one defective and still hold one as a spare phone now. Speaking to smallest size android with good camera a bit hard to believe that HTC One S still done it's job even in 2017(Iphone SE sure better but ios and expensive). I've got Sony Z1c and Z5c but I think One S indeed smaller and light weight. Normal use still ok but only stock 4.1/4.2 with 1GB ram, hard to gaming now.
I've been an One S user for almost five years now and I agreed this phone was the best phone I have ever had. Actually I love my Z1c too both performs well but mainly due to the community here was extremely active and friendly, sometimes I real wonder where are they moving. I'm thinking to buy my third One S later bcoz many good memory with it and I personally believe it would still be the smaller android phone with real working camera in a long time.
One S got no 4G/LTE only 2G/3G and I think you may need the T-Mobile variant of One S to connect T-Mobile 3G.
It's just hard to come by. I worked for HTC at the time, and there just weren't that many made, and it was only for a single region. The commenter above is right though; unless you are in the right region your signal will be 2G/crap. I'm in the US and it's always been very very slow.
Have to agree with you. I threw the unofficial 14.1 rom on it and its pretty excellent. Some performance lag, but still amazing by considering the age. Totally usable.
Zuffle said:
Is there anybody who knows of where to buy the special edition of this phone? The white and 64gb model sold in Taiwan.
I know it's pretty late to be looking but I won't give up hope because this phone was the best phone I have ever had but I really want more storage space.
If anyone knows how to upgrade the storage through hardware modification I am also interested in that.
Thanks!
Zuffle
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My first Lg phone is the V10 and it is a great Mobile phone but the support from LG company is very bad
i mean no bootloader unlock for the most of the v10 phones for that there is no custom roms in xda for the V10
and now Android Nougat is released and no update for the V10 until February or March and almost all phones released by the V10 date got or getting soon Nougat
i think Lg is fast in releasing update only for its newest Mobile Phones
My next phone will definitely not be from LG
for me also this is my last lg phone. lg proved that they are dumbass and fu***ng as***les. am really so much disappointed about their policy in unlocking bootloader. only two versions of this v10 is unlocked. this bull**** lg never listen to their customers. i don't why the hell dumbf**k lg is going to do with locked bootloaders. they are thinking them like apple. even some crap chinese phones have so much dev. support here. now am feeling much bore to have this v10. in future if any manufacturer release a phone with good specs, removeable battery and sd card definitely i will jump over to that and thereafter will never ever turn to lg. bye f**kwit lg.
This is why it is important to do research before spending so much money on a phone.
I generally wait a few months to see how development is going on the phone (mostly based on this discussion board). If there is little activity then I generally won't buy it.
Sorry you feel like you got screwed but some research before had would have shown that the BL is locked.
Of course my requirement is different from others here I require root so I can control aspects of my phone. I am not big on putting 3rd party images on the device because I need to keep my device reliable.
As long as LG continues to offer 3rd party external battery pack support (removable battery), external memory and offers modern hardware with good camera I will stick with LG.
The only thing that threatens a change is Samsung Note 8 because I do miss the stylus from my note 3.
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o. 0 Had a boot loop and swapped out the MB... I still love LG and would buy again since they have a removable batt, sd card, phone jack w/DAC, and can be taken a part really easy... Screw top of the line specs that will be obsolete before you buy and getting the newest OS first...
vipfreak said:
o. 0 Had a boot loop and swapped out the MB... I still love LG and would buy again since they have a removable batt, sd card, phone jack w/DAC, and can be taken a part really easy... Screw top of the line specs that will be obsolete before you buy and getting the newest OS first...
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Removable battery and micro-SD card are things I like too. I also like the full IR support, except unlike HTC they don't let add-on software directly talk to the IrDA port (the IR learning capability doesn't seem to work very well; plus certain pieces of software need direct access).
As for unlocking the bootloader attempts are being made and I think we're pretty close to breaking open the bootloader on all V10s. Nothing like "Bump", but instead figuring out how to abuse the H901 bootloader.
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As for unlocking the bootloader attempts are being made and I think we're pretty close to breaking open the bootloader on all V10s. Nothing like "Bump", but instead figuring out how to abuse the H901 bootloader.
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I very hope so
I thought nothing could replace my bootloader unlocked and rooted LG G3 running SkyDragon and the Xposed framework. Then came my US996 V20 factory unlocked, rooted and also with Xposed framework. This phone nearly had it all for me. I wanted FM radio but all attempts at getting it with Verizon as a carrier were unsuccessful. But I still loved and love myV20! Now is a very sad time for me because my 2.5 year old V20 is showing signs of advanced age. One of the primary reasons for choosing it was the replaceable battery. I don't give a rat's rear end about waterproof design, selfie cameras, using near field to pay for purchases or fingerprint unlocking but apparently the marketplace is driven by those desires. I do care about the ability to root and unlock the bootloader and, above all, the ability to replace the battery in any phone I own. Looks like I'm screwed on the latter!
If I bite the bullet on replaceable battery but absolutely must have root, what are my primary options? I would really like to hear from you guys and perhaps start a discussion on this subject. I paid $800 for my V20 and think it was nearly worth it but I do not have to have a flagship, especially when prices are getting absurd. I also would prefer a phone physically no larger than the V20 (absolutely loved the G3 sizewise!) and require a display that is visible in sunny outdoors. I would also like to be able to use my 256 GB SD card. I know my quest is practically hopeless but when the time comes I would like to get a phone that I feel I haven't paid for a lot of those trendy features I don't want or will never use.
Sorry about the rant – but the current state of affairs sucks, imho! BTW, 5G will "never" get to my area either but most of my usage is WiFi and I have a Gigabit FiOS connection but my V20 does not do well in the WiFi speed category.
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I thought nothing could replace my bootloader unlocked and rooted LG G3 running SkyDragon and the Xposed framework. Then came my US996 V20 factory unlocked, rooted and also with Xposed framework. This phone nearly had it all for me. I wanted FM radio but all attempts at getting it with Verizon as a carrier were unsuccessful. But I still loved and love myV20! Now is a very sad time for me because my 2.5 year old V20 is showing signs of advanced age. One of the primary reasons for choosing it was the replaceable battery. I don't give a rat's rear end about waterproof design, selfie cameras, using near field to pay for purchases or fingerprint unlocking but apparently the marketplace is driven by those desires. I do care about the ability to root and unlock the bootloader and, above all, the ability to replace the battery in any phone I own. Looks like I'm screwed on the latter!
If I bite the bullet on replaceable battery but absolutely must have root, what are my primary options? I would really like to hear from you guys and perhaps start a discussion on this subject. I paid $800 for my V20 and think it was nearly worth it but I do not have to have a flagship, especially when prices are getting absurd. I also would prefer a phone physically no larger than the V20 (absolutely loved the G3 sizewise!) and require a display that is visible in sunny outdoors. I would also like to be able to use my 256 GB SD card. I know my quest is practically hopeless but when the time comes I would like to get a phone that I feel I haven't paid for a lot of those trendy features I don't want or will never use.
Sorry about the rant – but the current state of affairs sucks, imho! BTW, 5G will "never" get to my area either but most of my usage is WiFi and I have a Gigabit FiOS connection but my V20 does not do well in the WiFi speed category.
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I bought an Essential phone and then moved to a new Mi mix 2S and both have been great replacement for the V20.
The new Mi 9 is also a great alternative
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OnePlus is also very good, that's where I moved to from V20 and S8+.
No matter what people say I'll stick with my us996 and f800k.......this ticks all the boxes for me.
Same problem I have with all the new devices. I tried the non-replaceable battery in a Nexus 6. Never again. Sucks when it dies, and they all will. It's just chemistry. And you can't get known good quality cells, just random China crap that is completely unknown. Perhaps a bigger name flagship like the S8 would have some options for good quality cells. Everyone else gets the rejects. It's a bit harsh, but I've personally tested random batteries and they are nearly universally crap that don't meet the stated capacity and lifetime. Not just in a phone either, real discharge testing. There are a couple decent manufacturers, but you pay more and they don't make batteries for every device, they just can't. Particularly when "normal" people don't go opening up a glued together device to replace the battery.
I get that my desires mean I'm not the "mass market". But it would be nice to have a couple options to pick from. Maybe just a big and small? I like larger devices, but not everyone does.
If they want more than about $300, I demand replaceable batteries, expandable storage, and headphone jack. And, most important, root. If I don't have root, I don't own the device. If I don't own it, I'm not paying nearly a grand for it. Hell, I got all that on my V20 for about $400. Sadly, at the moment there is no upgrade path. The best thing is, the things I ask for are cheap as hell, maybe $5 total in quantity, so the potential profit margin is huge. Everyone is just too busy trying to look like Apple. If I wanted that, I'd have already bought an iPhone.
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No matter what people say I'll stick with my us996 and f800k.......this ticks all the boxes for me.
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Totally agree. The V20 is the last of it's kind and they did most things right for it's time.. it even has an IR blaster, which I use as a universal remote. Like it's been mentioned before: the replaceable battery, expandable memory, quad dac+3.5mm jack, and decent all around specs for it's time makes this phone one of a kind. They don't make phones like this anymore, at least on the hardware level. Even though we all complained about LG and their crappy software updates, at least I gotta give credit to LG for making a phone like this (hardware wise).
Hopefully the dev community keeps it running for some time, in retrospect, this phone is a legend.