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It's probably a n00b question so apologies in advance, but if I root / bootloader unlock and Cyanogenmod flash an Android phone that's locked to a certain network, will that network lock be removed along with the official default Android ROM? Or is the lock at something like a BIOS level (or whatever the smartphone equivalent of a BIOS is)?
I bought a pre-unlocked Xperia U about a year ago that I've been using on Vodafone and had to return it under warranty (got stuck in a boot loop despite the fact that it's totally unmodified, not even rooted, honest!) and the replacement they sent back is locked to Virgin Mobile. They're telling me that the phone I sent them was originally sold to Virgin in France and locked to Virgin before I bought it, and that they've therefore fulfilled their responsibility. So I'm just wondering now about unlocking, and I've always been curious anyway about how / if bootloader unlocking, custom ROMs etc are related to network unlocking.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide with this!
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splscs said:
It's probably a n00b question so apologies in advance, but if I root / bootloader unlock and Cyanogenmod flash an Android phone that's locked to a certain network, will that network lock be removed along with the official default Android ROM? Or is the lock at something like a BIOS level (or whatever the smartphone equivalent of a BIOS is)?
I bought a pre-unlocked Xperia U about a year ago that I've been using on Vodafone and had to return it under warranty (got stuck in a boot loop despite the fact that it's totally unmodified, not even rooted, honest!) and the replacement they sent back is locked to Virgin Mobile. They're telling me that the phone I sent them was originally sold to Virgin in France and locked to Virgin before I bought it, and that they've therefore fulfilled their responsibility. So I'm just wondering now about unlocking, and I've always been curious anyway about how / if bootloader unlocking, custom ROMs etc are related to network unlocking.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide with this!
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well u can unlock it.. by getting the code from sony..
It will also unlock the ph..'s Sim lock..
Or ask the sony officialy for this.. they'll provide u every info required.
But unlocking the bl will do the job for you to be sim free
But do double check this from google too.
Also before unlocking pls make a backup as it will wipe everything from the device.
Just unlock and don't flash any custom kernels.If you want to then do it carefully pls with a backup and a copy of flashable stock rom.
Flash custom roms based on stock kernels
Hope this will answer the query..
Thanks for your reply! I spoke to Sony and they just told me to contact the network (which have done and they're wanting to charge me a fee to provide the unlock code). So to clarify, if I root the phone and unlock the bootloader, the network SIM lock will also be removed?
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Thanks for your reply! I spoke to Sony and they just told me to contact the network (which have done and they're wanting to charge me a fee to provide the unlock code). So to clarify, if I root the phone and unlock the bootloader, the network SIM lock will also be removed?
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Not by rooting but also i guess not even by unlocking bl..
how much are they charging exactly..
i'll try to find the link for this
Also check this that how many times is the code applied for unlocking..it should not be 0
use this *#*#7378243#*#* in dialer
then service info sim lock
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Not by rooting but also i guess not even by unlocking bl..
how much are they charging exactly..
i'll try to find the link for this
Also check this that how many times is the code applied for unlocking..it should not be 0
use this *#*#7378243#*#* in dialer
then service info sim lock
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When I dial that number, the number just disappears. What is it for? They want £15.32 for the code. Should I just pay them and forget about trying to remove the lock?
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When I dial that number, the number just disappears. What is it for? They want £15.32 for the code. Should I just pay them and forget about trying to remove the lock?
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Sorry the code is this
*#*#7378423#*#*
check the sim lock counters should be zero in all..
if zero then once u can try googling the code for unlocking if they work then it's great.
if not then it would be better to pay them for this as its a bit risky..
and are u using virgin's network??
As it's cheaper what they areaskingfor i guess.
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Sorry the code is this
*#*#7378423#*#*
check the sim lock counters should be zero in all..
if zero then once u can try googling the code for unlocking if they work then it's great.
if not then it would be better to pay them for this as its a bit risky..
and are u using virgin's network??
As it's cheaper what they areaskingfor i guess.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try! And nah I use Vodafone. Virgin has no signal at all in my area.
I just received my Sony D6603 Xperia Z3 from my carrier which is Rogers. Is there a way to fully unlock the device as if it was purchased as an unlocked version? I've tried searching for answers, but only came up with how to unlock the bootloader and rooting instructions. Unless, if by doing those methods, will fully unlock my device including SIM lock. Any help and insight would be greatly appreciated.
Depending on Roger's terms you should be able to have them unlock it. Appears you have to wait 90 days though.
http://www.rogers.com/web/support/wireless/unlock/733?setLanguage=en
Loving this one:
Why do I have to wait 90 days before I can unlock my device?
Your device has been optimized for use on the Rogers network. You may find that some settings or features do not function properly once the device is unlocked and in use with another carrier's SIM card. We want to ensure that you've had the chance to experience the full capabilities of your device on the Rogers network before making the decision to unlock.
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
gregbradley said:
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
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If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Once your device is sim free (using code) it will remain unlocked no matter what you do
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If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
gregbradley said:
Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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There is no unofficial bootloader unlock for this device. Its done through sony's official method or not at all.
If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
To get root access you do not need to be SIM unlocked. The only way to gain root acces on the Z3 currently is to unlock the bootloader, which you cannot do even if Rodgers SIM unlock it
The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
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That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
Flava0ne said:
That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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Yes, there have been some posts that some people have managed to do this with some carriers, but I am very sceptical as to this actually happening.
So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
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That may be coincidence, I believe that Sony made a tactical decision to stop unofficial methods by allowing some devices to be unlocked officially. This saw an almost immediate stop in devs working on unofficial unlocks as you could always get hold of a device that could be unlocked officially and for free. They basically took the need of an unofficial unlock out of the equation.
If Rogers could do that, it really makes me wonder what kind of tool/program that they use to accomplish this.
Probably something similar to Emma or just fastboot and adb. I really do not know that. The problem is they know the keys, without them it needs a good dev to find a vulnerability and write an exploit. That takes time and skill. And since there is an official method there seems no need to spend that time, as people with that skill just get themselves devices which can be unlocked
My 3rd day now with my new Z3 and I'm really missing having root access.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
Sim unlock has nothing to do with root, so sim unlocking will not give you the ability to remove system apps.
msxghost said:
Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Is there some sort of beginners guide/explanation/walkthrough you can point me towards? I've never had an Android before, so I have no idea what I'm doing and I don't want to screw anything up.
Hello everyone
Here's my problem and my idea:
I bought T-Mobile Galaxy S7 on ebay about a week ago (Stock QC1 firmware) and now I'm in need of sim unlock, which I can't, my device's unlock fails every time through Device Unlock app
I've searched through the web past two days and found no solution whatsoever. Every service is down for now and I cannot find any ways to unlock my phone.
So, here's what I thought: Maybe here's someone who can actually develop or figure out a solution for this since many solutions are available for S6/S6e and many other t mobile phones, but not for S7.
I can be tester and provide any files/dumps if needed or anything you guys ask.
I believe I'm not the only one with this problem and if we try hard enough, we can do this. Many people can benefit from this also, so let's be useful.
To mods, if you believe this is a wrong place to post this thread, please move it where it belongs.
Thanks to you all.
So your idea is just to look at other device solutions? [emoji1]
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I guess that's the part of it
Cheers
We probably wont see a direct unlock solution on these T-Mobile/MetroPCS QUALCOMM based Galaxys for some time. The older models you mentioned are Exynos based CPUs, they are being unlocked all the time. Unlock app or trusted server for imei unlock is our only solutions for now.
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installerrev said:
Hello everyone
Here's my problem and my idea:
I bought T-Mobile Galaxy S7 on ebay about a week ago (Stock QC1 firmware) and now I'm in need of sim unlock, which I can't, my device's unlock fails every time through Device Unlock app
I've searched through the web past two days and found no solution whatsoever. Every service is down for now and I cannot find any ways to unlock my phone.
So, here's what I thought: Maybe here's someone who can actually develop or figure out a solution for this since many solutions are available for S6/S6e and many other t mobile phones, but not for S7.
I can be tester and provide any files/dumps if needed or anything you guys ask.
I believe I'm not the only one with this problem and if we try hard enough, we can do this. Many people can benefit from this also, so let's be useful.
To mods, if you believe this is a wrong place to post this thread, please move where it belongs.
Thanks to you all.
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I stand with you. I think a bounty would be appropriate. I go loads of s7 and s7 edge to unlock. I may be at a huge loss if no unlock comes
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stuntman112 said:
We probably wont see a direct unlock solution on these T-Mobile/MetroPCS QUALCOMM based Galaxys for some time. The older models you mentioned are Exynos based CPUs, they are being unlocked all the time. Unlock app or trusted server for imei unlock is our only solutions for now.
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I believe of we have alot of people working toward it something interesting would come out if it. Considering s8 is also there, more people Wil be requiring unlock. It's only a matter of time
Factory reset your phone, then try to use the device unlock. You can select temporary unlock or permanent unlock. Once you are done you will have a sim unlocked device.
stuntman112 said:
We probably wont see a direct unlock solution on these T-Mobile/MetroPCS QUALCOMM based Galaxys for some time. The older models you mentioned are Exynos based CPUs, they are being unlocked all the time. Unlock app or trusted server for imei unlock is our only solutions for now.
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Actually, MetroPCS s7 & s7e device unlock is available for $20 and Qualcomm S6 and below is also unlockable, there are many remote unlock services on ebay/various websites for those devices.
I've been* trying to unlock my S7 since April but no luck.
I know this issues with t-mobile Quallcomm Galaxys are about locked bootloader but that's the only thing I found out.
If someone can make bounty pool or something similar, I would gladly participate.
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KillerClaw321 said:
Factory reset your phone, then try to use the device unlock. You can select temporary unlock or permanent unlock. Once you are done you will have a sim unlocked device.
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Lol. How many factory resets required? I still haven't gotten unlocked.
jazzdglass said:
Lol. How many factory resets required? I still haven't gotten unlocked.
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You using the latest version not rooted?
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You using the latest version not rooted?
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Yup. I'm on android 7.0. I could go back to 6.0.1 too. Why do you think this is a method to unlock? You need to connect to Tmobile database to unlock. Merely factory reset won't do anything. It's all in the cloud
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Yup. I'm on android 7.0. I could go back to 6.0.1 too. Why do you think this is a method to unlock? You need to connect to Tmobile database to unlock. Merely factory reset won't do anything. It's all in the cloud
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I know, however when I had issues with the device unlock app a fresh install of the latest version worked and I was able to temporarily unlock for a month.
I did it just now after a factory reset, rooted and running no BS Rom...
T-mobile
I went through the same ordeal. I had to actually call t-mobile and get a representative to unlock it using the phone's IMEI number so it could be used on all carriers. Call them, I'm sure they will unlock it for you. That t-mobile unlock app doesn't do anything. Also under developer options, you need to check OEM unlock before you call t-mobile.
-Just my two cents, Bob
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I know, however when I had issues with the device unlock app a fresh install of the latest version worked and I was able to temporarily unlock for a month.
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My device asks for active cellular connection in order to get temporary unlock, but I can't get carrier signal since phone is locked.... are you T-Mobile customer and were you using their sim card? I am not.
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I went through the same ordeal. I had to actually call t-mobile and get a representative to unlock it using the phone's IMEI number so it could be used on all carriers. Call them, I'm sure they will unlock it for you. That t-mobile unlock app doesn't do anything. Also under developer options, you need to check OEM unlock before you call t-mobile.
-Just my two cents, Bob
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Called them maybe 10 times, even used their facebook page. Every single customer representative said phone is fully paid and nothing is blocking it but they can't help me because I'm not actual / original phone owner on their database, and person I purchased this phone from has no idea what unlock is, he's impossible to deal with. Maybe you have any tips for me?
Thank you everybody for taking your time and helping us.
Just a quick update, I just flashed latest G930U firmware and after SIM card insertion, phone asks for unlock code, which of course I have no idea what it is
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I did it just now after a factory reset, rooted and running no BS Rom...
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I think you and @boobteg have a paid off devices eligible for unlock. What you need to know ow is that the device unlock app doesn't work on custom roms. It requires a stock rom. There are some of us who are not eligible for unlock.
Any progress?
none so far
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Hi! im having the same problem, i cant unlock my s7 tmobile with device unlock app, every place i try say it that the service is down. II flashed with the g930U, now the smartphone ask me for an unlock code, there is anyway to find that "unlock code" to unlock the phone in this way? Or maybe installing an non stock rom is possible to unlock the phone?
Help!! i cant use it in my actually country
morpheus1978 said:
Hi! im having the same problem, i cant unlock my s7 tmobile with device unlock app, every place i try say it that the service is down. II flashed with the g930U, now the smartphone ask me for an unlock code, there is anyway to find that "unlock code" to unlock the phone in this way? Or maybe installing an non stock rom is possible to unlock the phone?
Help!! i cant use it in my actually country
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For now, no way to unlock..
I bought a oneplus 7 pro without paying much attention to the fine print. The phone apparently has an IMEI issue and it locked to T-mobile. I want to use it in UAE, is there any way I can unlock it and use it here. It has already been shipped and I can't cancel my order.
PS: Can I unlock my bootloader and install custom roms.
Dinner... You should be able to unlock the bootloader and root it, but it will remain Sim-locked to t-mobile. There are services online that will unlock it from the t-mobile network.
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PS: Can I unlock my bootloader and install custom roms.
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I think there might be a way actually. Haven't personally tried it, but many have said it works. It looks like on the the Android 10 Developer Preview 3, you can actually bypass the token, and unlock the bootloader! I'm not sure if the phone would still technically be SIM locked to T-Mobile (if you wanted to use another carrier), but honestly have no idea. But at least from what it sounds like you should be able to unlock the bootloader, and flash custom roms.
Check out these posts, and the main XDA article that has instructions:
https://www.xda-developers.com/t-mobile-oneplus-7-pro-root-tutorial/amp/
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You still need an unlock token from OnePlus to unlock the TMO model, even on global firmware. It takes about a week from request to processing. You can get around it by flashing the A10 DP3 OTA, and it won't check for the token.
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I bought an extra 7 Pro since It was only $450 through T-Mobile. If you're looking for a way to unlock the bootloader as soon as you get it you can. You can follow the guide here. It worked perfectly on mine:
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Best of luck. Please let me know if I can help at all.
Can someone explain whether process I go through on tmobile to unlock the bootloader? With the oneplus 8, I had to have 3 months paid off first and from there I could get the unlock code. Is it the same with note?
Thanks
I would also like to know that.
Hopefully someone can enlighten us on that
That was years ago particular with one plus, they don't have a say anymore with these phones.
You have to pay to get it unofficially unlocked.
Search the forums, I don't know if we're allowed to post pay for unlock link even if theyre on xda.
Also, if your phone is still sim locked and you unlock the bootloader, it will remain sim locked. Only T-Mobile can sim unlock it and if you do sim unlock after you unlock your bootloader, it will relock your bootloader and it's stuck as locked forever.
So I'd sim unlock your phone before paying to bootloader unlocking it.
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That was years ago particular with one plus, they don't have a say anymore with these phones.
You have to pay to get it unofficially unlocked.
Search the forums, I don't know if we're allowed to post pay for unlock link even if theyre on xda.
Also, if your phone is still sim locked and you unlock the bootloader, it will remain sim locked. Only T-Mobile can sim unlock it and if you do sim unlock after you unlock your bootloader, it will relock your bootloader and it's stuck as locked forever.
So I'd sim unlock your phone before paying to bootloader unlocking it.
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Thanks coilbio,
That was helpful and appreciated.!
can you please clarify what do u mean by unlock?
If you need to unlock ur phone(network unlock) so that it can be used on any network then u can contact Tmobile to unlock your phone. You can contact Tforce on twitter to get ur phone unlocked. I was able to do that thro them.
Hi mindseye0803,
By unlock, I meant bootloader unlock,. My bad for not being specific on that.
Thanks for asking and hopefully, for help
VioNeo said:
Hi mindseye0803,
By unlock, I meant bootloader unlock,. My bad for not being specific on that.
Thanks for asking and hopefully, for help
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check out this post - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4205981/#post-84374863
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check out this post - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4205981/#post-84374863
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Thanks bro, much appreciated.