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Battery. Kit kat or Lollipop?

I have received my 1+1 a couple of days ago. Straight away I realised the poor battery life. Well, by poor I mean comparing it to some people and how they praise it.
I have flashed Lollipop but I totally hated the Ui - it seemed so small (status bar) I think it was the slim kat ROM. Battery life still wasn't phenomenal. Using both, stock cm11s and few Lollipop custom roms I came to a conclusion that right now, there is not even a single STABLE ROM. By stable i mean no FCs and decent battery life. I surely can't be right, don't know if my phone is faulty or if I'm doing something wrong. I also came across different versions of CM11s? Something like 44s or something like that. Could someone explain it to me since I can't find the answer anywhere to what it's referring to? Also apparently one version is "better" than the other? Here are my questions relating to my problems. As of today, what is the most stable ROM for our fantastic device? Be it kit kat or Lollipop (though I prefer kit kat) What is the difference between cyanogenmod 11s and cyanogenmod 11? Am I better off (stability and battery wise) flashing cm12 nightlies or stay on stock 11s? I will add that i have searched and browsed through the forum for answers but I simply couldn't find anything either specific enough or simple to understand. I know that I should be trying all the ROMs by myself but it would take me forever to decide which one is the best for me. Many of you guys have tried most if not all of them and can give me a feedback I hope which I appreciate very much. Thanks for your time.

dav-rmd said:
I have received my 1+1 a couple of days ago. Straight away I realised the poor battery life. Well, by poor I mean comparing it to some people and how they praise it.
I have flashed Lollipop but I totally hated the Ui - it seemed so small (status bar) I think it was the slim kat ROM. Battery life still wasn't phenomenal. Using both, stock cm11s and few Lollipop custom roms I came to a conclusion that right now, there is not even a single STABLE ROM. By stable i mean no FCs and decent battery life. I surely can't be right, don't know if my phone is faulty or if I'm doing something wrong. I also came across different versions of CM11s? Something like 44s or something like that. Could someone explain it to me since I can't find the answer anywhere to what it's referring to? Also apparently one version is "better" than the other? Here are my questions relating to my problems. As of today, what is the most stable ROM for our fantastic device? Be it kit kat or Lollipop (though I prefer kit kat) What is the difference between cyanogenmod 11s and cyanogenmod 11? Am I better off (stability and battery wise) flashing cm12 nightlies or stay on stock 11s? I will add that i have searched and browsed through the forum for answers but I simply couldn't find anything either specific enough or simple to understand. I know that I should be trying all the ROMs by myself but it would take me forever to decide which one is the best for me. Many of you guys have tried most if not all of them and can give me a feedback I hope which I appreciate very much. Thanks for your time.
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I have tried BlissPop, but basically came up to same conclusions as you, battery life was worse than stock, and the UI still feels a little quirky. Switched back to stock. I believe the most stable ROM would be the current stock CM 11S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-return-opo-to-100-stock-t2826541
Also, OnePlus team is working on getting CM 12S released soon:
CM 12S: The official OTA update for the OnePlus One will be released on or before March 30, 2015
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Ah thank you. Looks like I'll be staying on the stock then until the release of oxygen os and cm12s.

dav-rmd said:
Ah thank you. Looks like I'll be staying on the stock then until the release of oxygen os and cm12s.
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Slim ROM has a smaller status bar because it uses a lower DPI, therefore fitting more onto the display at once. Anyway, I run Vanir-Exodus and my battery life is fantastic.
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Cyanogen worked with OnePlus to release a dedicated version for OnePlus One (CM11S)
I believe Cyanogen released themselves Cyanogemod 11 that is compatible with OnePlus One (CM11). Im not 100% sure.
There are slight differences between them.
There wont be a CM12S. It will be released simply as CM12 and be compatible with the OnePlus One.
In theory, CM11S should be the most stable. The source is available: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_oneplus_bacon

timmaaa said:
Slim ROM has a smaller status bar because it uses a lower DPI, therefore fitting more onto the display at once. Anyway, I run Vanir-Exodus and my battery life is fantastic.
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Is it stable though? I am back on stock and can't really complain other than battery life everything else seems fine. Funny thing : I'm not even using LTE! :/

riahc3 said:
Cyanogen worked with OnePlus to release a dedicated version for OnePlus One (CM11S)
I believe Cyanogen released themselves Cyanogemod 11 that is compatible with OnePlus One (CM11). Im not 100% sure.
There are slight differences between them.
There wont be a CM12S. It will be released simply as CM12 and be compatible with the OnePlus One.
In theory, CM11S should be the most stable. The source is available: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_oneplus_bacon
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What are you talking about? Firstly, CM11 and CM11S are the same ROM except for a couple of proprietary apps. Secondly, there is going to be CM12S, it's being released later this month.
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dav-rmd said:
Is it stable though? I am back on stock and can't really complain other than battery life everything else seems fine. Funny thing : I'm not even using LTE! :/
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Yes. As stable as a ROM can get.
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Thanks guys! Though I'm still confused about the versions of software. The whole 44s thing confuses me. Any ideas?

dav-rmd said:
Thanks guys! Though I'm still confused about the versions of software. The whole 44s thing confuses me. Any ideas?
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What about it confuses you? 44S is a build build number of CM11S, they were released like this: 22R > 25R > 30O > 33R > 38S > 44S > 05Q
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timmaaa said:
What are you talking about? Firstly, CM11 and CM11S are the same ROM except for a couple of proprietary apps.
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Wait; How can you say they are the same ROM and then say "except for a couple of proprietary apps"? That automatically means its not the same ROM :S
Here is the thing CM11 started to roll out around end of 2013. CM11S is based on a CM11 that was released in April 2014. There are fixes, proprietary apps, etc. you mentioned. CM11, at the end of 2013, was released for all devices at the same time and the code is exactly the same. It isnt exactly the same as CM11s
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Secondly, there is going to be CM12S, it's being released later this month.
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I really have my doubts on that. I know that was announced but....I think its gonna be CyanogenMod 12 period, released for S5, M8, etc........and OnePlus One (bacon). I dont think they are going to make another specialized for OnePlus One (unless of course there is a legal obligation, and even so, I wont trust it too much)

Oh cheers. I've read that say 05q has a terrible battery life, where as 44s is best of them all. The part that confused me was that I didn't know it was referring to cm11s. Thanks for clearing that out.

riahc3 said:
Wait; How can you say they are the same ROM and then say "except for a couple of proprietary apps"? That automatically means its not the same ROM :S
Here is the thing CM11 started to roll out around end of 2013. CM11S is based on a CM11 that was released in April 2014. There are fixes, proprietary apps, etc. you mentioned. CM11, at the end of 2013, was released for all devices at the same time and the code is exactly the same. It isnt exactly the same as CM11s
I really have my doubts on that. I know that was announced but....I think its gonna be CyanogenMod 12 period, released for S5, M8, etc........and OnePlus One (bacon). I dont think they are going to make another specialized for OnePlus One (unless of course there is a legal obligation, and even so, I wont trust it too much)
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You're splitting hairs there. Apps don't make a ROM. The real difference between CM11S and CM11 is that the nightlies (CM11) are ahead in terms of commits (and therefore possibly bugs). CM11S is the "stable" version of CM11, much like a milestone release. Only the first build of CM11S (22R) was based on the CM11 of April 2014. Each successive build of CM11S is based on the state of CM11 nightlies (commits etc) at the time of release of each CM11S build. They are the same ROM. This is a well known fact.
You can have your doubts all you like but it's pure speculation, and it isn't actually based on any facts or verified information. It's just false information spread by baseless rumours. CM12S is currently in the process of being authorized by Google to be released officially. This information is all readily available if you keep up with the information being provided by CM.

battery life
Stick to CM11. I used to get 3.5hr of screen time.
Now that I switched to CM12 nightlies 20150316, I'm down to 2.5hrs of screen time, so 2 full days vs 1.5 days now.

I think 12S will be similar to 11S
CM + extra apps like camera, maxxaudio + hardware specific optimizations like touchscreen, bionic (if that still exists on art)

See Battery in settings to see which app is draining battery
If you havn't already checked which apps are hogging your battery then go over to Settings-->Battery
and then see the apps which are draining your battery.
If Google Play Services is occupying the no.1 spot thne Enable Privacy Guard for it and disable the option for Keep Awake and Wake Up by it.
You can find this in Settings-->Privacy
Another fix is that you disable Gestures(all 3) and also disable 'Wake on double tap'.

[OPO] Paranoid Android vs CM13 nightly ! Which one would you prefer and why?

Now that Paranoid Android. 2016 has been released yesterday for OPO, would you make the switch to Paranoid Android? and why?
To help flasholics make informed choices

Paranoid Android just for the different experience than the stock roms. CM is almost stock. After using for sometime battery charging is slow. TOugh call to make with Dirty Unicorns or Darkobas roms. with PA.
I vote for different experience hence PA.

I vote for CM. Its got a blotch of features and no...those nose breakdowns didnt happen to me.. PA's accountability in this period is very bad. They left us and now when android N is almost out, they turn their nose into first PA MM build. kinda late to win win i would say,. but i have to agree they are very stable interms of battery.. if only they stick to custom roms, i would have been on PA.

I would go for CM13 (Sultan) over Paranoid Android. I've been on CM Nightlies for ages and Sultan's ROM is CM with better camera, kernel and based on a more stable branch from CM. Paranoid is just coming back after a long hiatus and it won't have any of the features you've come to enjoy on a daily basis on other custom software.
A lot of people have commented PA has charging issues. I assume that's cause they used the Oxygen kernel. I also had issues on latest Oxygen OS with charging (took like 4+ hrs to charge), it can't be a coincidence. If PA are still dishing out builds, check them out in a couple months when the OS has matured (with more features)

What about the just launched Cyanogen 13.1 into the mix? Would anyone be considering switching to that?
The charging issue on PA is keeping me from trying it, although my battery life on the official CM13 nightlies hasn't been fantastic

xtremez said:
What about the just launched Cyanogen 13.1 into the mix? Would anyone be considering switching to that?
The charging issue on PA is keeping me from trying it, although my battery life on the official CM13 nightlies hasn't been fantastic
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I did just that, I've switched over from the nightlies. So far almost everything is just like CyanogenMod, but kind of worse in a way, and the only reason I'm saying that is because I have a very specific setup and like having Google versions of the apps, which aren't all included in COS. The features from the newest update are rather useless to me at this point in time, it might be a different story if something more interesting gets released though. Other than that it's smooth and fast and due to the lack of root I can finally try out android pay. I'm thinking that if I have no reason to stay on it I will switch back to CM nightlies, or maybe try out Paranoid android when some of the issues (such as the theme engine) get fixed.

I would Prefer COS 13.1. I really found the MODs (Skype and hyperlape) useful for myself. Except for these mods everything is more or less like CM 13 except the camera here is better. I tried PA for a day. It had Slow charging, no extra feature over CM 13. Infact lacks a great deal of features when compared to CM or COS 13.

Did anyone just stick with the stock Cyanogen OS?

I realise this is probably a bit of a controversial question to ask on XDA, however has anyone else just stuck with the stock Cyanogen OS on their OnePlus One?
I was thinking today when reading about Lineage OS I have pretty much kept my OnePlus One stock since i got it in July 2014, out the box Cyanogen OS had everything i'd otherwise flash a custom rom for. I did try some early Marshmallow roms around February last year, however due to various bugs I went back to stock and waited for the Marshmallow OTA.
These days i'd certainly take stability over having the latest and greatest version of Android. Of course I don't intend that as any disrespect to the developers on here, more than anything I think I just got tired of tinkering with my phone and have enjoyed just using it.
However I do plan on flashing Lineage OS in the future, which seems quite strange after not flashing a custom rom for almost a year.
It's great to see XDA is still going strong, even more so that the OnePlus currently has the most users of unofficial installs of Lineage OS :good:

My father does have the official builds hahahah we both have the opo but he's okay if it works, so keeping it simple is the best way for him.

As far as Cyanogen OS goes
It's bad and bloated
I tried to stay on it, and did for a bit when security updates were being applied
But had a bunch of reboots and overheating issues. Had to dump it.

Was on stock COS till today since i couldnt find a rom that suited my needs and passed safetynet. Today i flashed lineage OS official, everything is smooth and it passes safety net (i can now use my banking app while running nougat). So yeah today is the day i left COS and marshmallow

I don't even know why I'm still on official CyanOS. The screen time is dreadful. I think I'll give LOS a chance in the near future. It can't be any worse than 3-4 hours of screen time, what I'm getting now with official COS.

Cyanogen may be sold in the future and they can push harmful updates to your device, so I'd say updating is a very good choice.

I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.

I do sometimes think maybe I should have stayed stock but then I think of all the fun I've had
Now I need my phone to work for calls and alarms as a minimum so take less risks now
I'm still on marsh 2.0 from way back last august

i would but cyanogen 13.1 has a problem with the mobile network.........

Luck Patcher
Fatsodonkey said:
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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You can try Lucky Patcher. They have a custom patch for YouTube background playback. Works on Nougat. Hope this helps

For anyone who wants the best stable experience, I'd suggest sultanxda's CM13 ROM. May it be for girlfriends, dad's, whoever. That ROM will never fall behind.
Cheers.

Well I am still sticking with rooted cyanogen os. I have color camera, viper4android, Sony Media Apps like Walkman and xposed.
Can anyone enlighten me whether noughat build supports viper4android and a good camera mod like color os or cameranext mod? If so I don't mind installing it immediately..

I'm still on stock ROM, because I'm using NFC payments on the tube. Battery life with screen on is dreadful. I would upgrade in a heartbeat should there be any ROM that's signed by Google. Is there any hope to get that ?

My story sounds a lot like the OP. I got my OPO as soon as the invites started going out (I had signed up long before release) and I just couldn't wait to get it and start rooting and TWRPing and ROMing. I tried just about every ROM that was out there including OOS. But, as is often the case with enthusiast ROMS, there always seemed to be some little something somewhere that didn't quite work right. I also had terrible problems with the radios on almost all ROMs including the stock ROM. That got corrected during the second or third update though.
I have a lot of smartphones, so eventually, I moved onto other phones and other tinkering. Then one day, not too long ago, I wondered what it would be like to restore my OPO back to factory stock - no root; reset the tamper bit - and update to the latest official update - so I did.
I have to say that the OPO has never been as stable and reliable as it is in that condition. Best radio reception since I got the phone, silky smooth Android experience (even on two year old hardware), and rarely any crashes or FCs. Truly a STABLE phone.
But even as good as it is running now, I still worry about not getting any future updates and in particular security patches, so I will be looking to flash a good stable build of Lineage OS after reading up on other users' experiences.
Still have to say though that through all of my phones (Galaxy's, Lumias, iPhones, and everything in between), I'd still put my OPO up there with my trusted iPhone 6S for reliability and the "It Just Works" factor.

Hi! I'm running COS, the latest update i received via OTA. I'll wait for a stable build for Nougat, also, there are some xposed modules I cannot live without so i guess i wait for a little bit.

Fatsodonkey said:
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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Which Xposed module let's you do that? please let me know. I know I can search but can't get one that works.

Fatsodonkey said:
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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There's an unofficial Lineage OS 13 for our bacon, here in XDA. Stable no issues and xposed compatible

Which rom for less-technical family member?

I'm moving on from my Moto G3 Osprey, which still has the stock ROM, and giving it to a family member who's been stuck on an aging Android Jelly Bean phone. Before I hand it over, since I'm wiping the device anyways, I've been considering flashing another ROM.
I and the other family member are both on T-mobile. The speculated Band 12 support was one reason I originally got the G3, and so when Moto dropped B12 rather than update for VoLTE support I was disappointed; not getting a Nougat update was a further downer. If I can fix that before handing it over, it'll really help make the phone more useful for them. But I don't need the latest and greatest and still-debugging-what-doesn't-work-iest. I'd flash this once and hand it over, and this family member is not very technically oriented. It needs to be usable and stable. What should I grab?
Someone asked a similar question a year ago and the answers were split between "stick with stock" and "get official lineage 14.1." But it sounds like since then the official maintainer stopped and people have focused a lot of effort on 15.x roms. Is one of those (e.g. althafvly's?) a safe bet? Or is it better to use official 14.1 despite its less-maintained status, or even to forgo volte and just give them a stock phone?

BTW I'll also mention that Bluetooth and the flashlight have been on the fritz and I've wondered whether flashing the ROM might alleviate those problems. Maybe that's a battery issue; I've replaced the screen before and replacing the battery doesn't seem that much more involved so I might do that before handing it over.

I would suggest you go with AOSPExtended v5.8 it'll has all the latest security patches, but it isn't maintained now because the dev is working on Pie now. It's a stable ROM with quite a lot of features. I get about 2:30 to 3 hours of SoT with moderate to heavy usage on a bad battery(I intend to replace it) from it. Other options you can look at are Lineage 14 the last official build or AOSPExtended Nougat, both solid Nougat ROMs but you'll miss out on the security patches. I moved through both of these to AOSPEx v5.8.
However there are other ROMs you might look at, I haven't used them though
Pixel Experience Oreo
Resurrection Remix Oreo

Lineage 14.1 is the best suited for your needs. It is stable and will be updated (once or twice in a month) so you will be getting latest patches.It it most close-to-stock Rom

Want to re install Lineage Os 14.1 due to issues, need a bit of help.

Hey guys, I recently updated my shield tablet from the latest lineage os 14.1 to 15.1 and did not know about the hardware decoder issues with video playback so i quickly regretted that. Before that my tablet was awesome, 6h SOT performance was great etc. So I went to lineage and poof no longer do they give out 14.1 builds. Also dumbass me deleted the ones I had downloaded. Now luckily I found a person who had made a huge backlog of older builds of 14.1 buuut they are from January and February and tbh are quite buggy (at least for me, maybe I flashed them wrong?!). The settings app keeps crashing and i can only open it by long pressing something on the notification area. Battery is max 3h SOT which is wierd but thats how it is. So a crapshoot all in all.
So I wanted to ask if anyone still has later builds on their device or anywhere else because unless I find them I might as well have a dust collecting buggy "brick". Or any advice on what services I could disable, apps that could help, or either other custom roms. I frankly dont play that much on my tablet anymore and use it for youtube mostly so a battery focused rom would be awesome.
Thanks in advance !

lineage 14.1 - 20190102
Hey, just so happens that i actually have a more recent build of 14.1 (Lineage - 14.1 - 20190102). Send me a message so that we can work out a better means for me to send it to you

I have a link to 14.1
Let me know if you still need it

You can find all LOS 14.1 builds here:
https://files.moskvich.xyz/LineageOS/14.1/shieldtablet/