I have received my 1+1 a couple of days ago. Straight away I realised the poor battery life. Well, by poor I mean comparing it to some people and how they praise it.
I have flashed Lollipop but I totally hated the Ui - it seemed so small (status bar) I think it was the slim kat ROM. Battery life still wasn't phenomenal. Using both, stock cm11s and few Lollipop custom roms I came to a conclusion that right now, there is not even a single STABLE ROM. By stable i mean no FCs and decent battery life. I surely can't be right, don't know if my phone is faulty or if I'm doing something wrong. I also came across different versions of CM11s? Something like 44s or something like that. Could someone explain it to me since I can't find the answer anywhere to what it's referring to? Also apparently one version is "better" than the other? Here are my questions relating to my problems. As of today, what is the most stable ROM for our fantastic device? Be it kit kat or Lollipop (though I prefer kit kat) What is the difference between cyanogenmod 11s and cyanogenmod 11? Am I better off (stability and battery wise) flashing cm12 nightlies or stay on stock 11s? I will add that i have searched and browsed through the forum for answers but I simply couldn't find anything either specific enough or simple to understand. I know that I should be trying all the ROMs by myself but it would take me forever to decide which one is the best for me. Many of you guys have tried most if not all of them and can give me a feedback I hope which I appreciate very much. Thanks for your time.
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I have received my 1+1 a couple of days ago. Straight away I realised the poor battery life. Well, by poor I mean comparing it to some people and how they praise it.
I have flashed Lollipop but I totally hated the Ui - it seemed so small (status bar) I think it was the slim kat ROM. Battery life still wasn't phenomenal. Using both, stock cm11s and few Lollipop custom roms I came to a conclusion that right now, there is not even a single STABLE ROM. By stable i mean no FCs and decent battery life. I surely can't be right, don't know if my phone is faulty or if I'm doing something wrong. I also came across different versions of CM11s? Something like 44s or something like that. Could someone explain it to me since I can't find the answer anywhere to what it's referring to? Also apparently one version is "better" than the other? Here are my questions relating to my problems. As of today, what is the most stable ROM for our fantastic device? Be it kit kat or Lollipop (though I prefer kit kat) What is the difference between cyanogenmod 11s and cyanogenmod 11? Am I better off (stability and battery wise) flashing cm12 nightlies or stay on stock 11s? I will add that i have searched and browsed through the forum for answers but I simply couldn't find anything either specific enough or simple to understand. I know that I should be trying all the ROMs by myself but it would take me forever to decide which one is the best for me. Many of you guys have tried most if not all of them and can give me a feedback I hope which I appreciate very much. Thanks for your time.
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I have tried BlissPop, but basically came up to same conclusions as you, battery life was worse than stock, and the UI still feels a little quirky. Switched back to stock. I believe the most stable ROM would be the current stock CM 11S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-return-opo-to-100-stock-t2826541
Also, OnePlus team is working on getting CM 12S released soon:
CM 12S: The official OTA update for the OnePlus One will be released on or before March 30, 2015
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Ah thank you. Looks like I'll be staying on the stock then until the release of oxygen os and cm12s.
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Ah thank you. Looks like I'll be staying on the stock then until the release of oxygen os and cm12s.
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Slim ROM has a smaller status bar because it uses a lower DPI, therefore fitting more onto the display at once. Anyway, I run Vanir-Exodus and my battery life is fantastic.
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Cyanogen worked with OnePlus to release a dedicated version for OnePlus One (CM11S)
I believe Cyanogen released themselves Cyanogemod 11 that is compatible with OnePlus One (CM11). Im not 100% sure.
There are slight differences between them.
There wont be a CM12S. It will be released simply as CM12 and be compatible with the OnePlus One.
In theory, CM11S should be the most stable. The source is available: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_oneplus_bacon
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Slim ROM has a smaller status bar because it uses a lower DPI, therefore fitting more onto the display at once. Anyway, I run Vanir-Exodus and my battery life is fantastic.
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Is it stable though? I am back on stock and can't really complain other than battery life everything else seems fine. Funny thing : I'm not even using LTE! :/
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Cyanogen worked with OnePlus to release a dedicated version for OnePlus One (CM11S)
I believe Cyanogen released themselves Cyanogemod 11 that is compatible with OnePlus One (CM11). Im not 100% sure.
There are slight differences between them.
There wont be a CM12S. It will be released simply as CM12 and be compatible with the OnePlus One.
In theory, CM11S should be the most stable. The source is available: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_oneplus_bacon
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What are you talking about? Firstly, CM11 and CM11S are the same ROM except for a couple of proprietary apps. Secondly, there is going to be CM12S, it's being released later this month.
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Is it stable though? I am back on stock and can't really complain other than battery life everything else seems fine. Funny thing : I'm not even using LTE! :/
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Thanks guys! Though I'm still confused about the versions of software. The whole 44s thing confuses me. Any ideas?
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Thanks guys! Though I'm still confused about the versions of software. The whole 44s thing confuses me. Any ideas?
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What about it confuses you? 44S is a build build number of CM11S, they were released like this: 22R > 25R > 30O > 33R > 38S > 44S > 05Q
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What are you talking about? Firstly, CM11 and CM11S are the same ROM except for a couple of proprietary apps.
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Wait; How can you say they are the same ROM and then say "except for a couple of proprietary apps"? That automatically means its not the same ROM :S
Here is the thing CM11 started to roll out around end of 2013. CM11S is based on a CM11 that was released in April 2014. There are fixes, proprietary apps, etc. you mentioned. CM11, at the end of 2013, was released for all devices at the same time and the code is exactly the same. It isnt exactly the same as CM11s
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Secondly, there is going to be CM12S, it's being released later this month.
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I really have my doubts on that. I know that was announced but....I think its gonna be CyanogenMod 12 period, released for S5, M8, etc........and OnePlus One (bacon). I dont think they are going to make another specialized for OnePlus One (unless of course there is a legal obligation, and even so, I wont trust it too much)
Oh cheers. I've read that say 05q has a terrible battery life, where as 44s is best of them all. The part that confused me was that I didn't know it was referring to cm11s. Thanks for clearing that out.
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Wait; How can you say they are the same ROM and then say "except for a couple of proprietary apps"? That automatically means its not the same ROM :S
Here is the thing CM11 started to roll out around end of 2013. CM11S is based on a CM11 that was released in April 2014. There are fixes, proprietary apps, etc. you mentioned. CM11, at the end of 2013, was released for all devices at the same time and the code is exactly the same. It isnt exactly the same as CM11s
I really have my doubts on that. I know that was announced but....I think its gonna be CyanogenMod 12 period, released for S5, M8, etc........and OnePlus One (bacon). I dont think they are going to make another specialized for OnePlus One (unless of course there is a legal obligation, and even so, I wont trust it too much)
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You're splitting hairs there. Apps don't make a ROM. The real difference between CM11S and CM11 is that the nightlies (CM11) are ahead in terms of commits (and therefore possibly bugs). CM11S is the "stable" version of CM11, much like a milestone release. Only the first build of CM11S (22R) was based on the CM11 of April 2014. Each successive build of CM11S is based on the state of CM11 nightlies (commits etc) at the time of release of each CM11S build. They are the same ROM. This is a well known fact.
You can have your doubts all you like but it's pure speculation, and it isn't actually based on any facts or verified information. It's just false information spread by baseless rumours. CM12S is currently in the process of being authorized by Google to be released officially. This information is all readily available if you keep up with the information being provided by CM.
battery life
Stick to CM11. I used to get 3.5hr of screen time.
Now that I switched to CM12 nightlies 20150316, I'm down to 2.5hrs of screen time, so 2 full days vs 1.5 days now.
I think 12S will be similar to 11S
CM + extra apps like camera, maxxaudio + hardware specific optimizations like touchscreen, bionic (if that still exists on art)
See Battery in settings to see which app is draining battery
If you havn't already checked which apps are hogging your battery then go over to Settings-->Battery
and then see the apps which are draining your battery.
If Google Play Services is occupying the no.1 spot thne Enable Privacy Guard for it and disable the option for Keep Awake and Wake Up by it.
You can find this in Settings-->Privacy
Another fix is that you disable Gestures(all 3) and also disable 'Wake on double tap'.
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Does anyone think that android 5.0 will come to our phones? or are Google Motorola and Verizon going to be an ass and say no. I'm willing to help any development.
We're not going to get official support for 5.0 if that's what you mean. As for custom ROMs, I'm sure it will happen eventually.
Once Android 5.0 L is officially released, we intend to bring this latest upgrade to many of our other Motorola devices, as well. This includes Moto X (1st and 2nd Gen), Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen), Moto G with 4G LTE, Moto E, Droid Ultra, Droid Maxx and Droid Mini. We're still working out the details on timing and the upgrade depends on our partners' support so stay tuned to our software upgrades page for the latest and greatest.
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http://www.motorola-blog.blogspot.hu/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html
...and it begins...Took less than a day for someone to ask. It's not even released yet. Coming to the Razrs? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Unofficial, maybe? These things are at EOL and they received a barely functioning official KK update.
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Moto kind of hinted at the possibility of having other devices on Lollipop, but I'm not holding my breath this time.
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Does anyone think that android 5.0 will come to our phones? or are Google Motorola and Verizon going to be an ass and say no. I'm willing to help any development.
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We're not even going to get KK 4.4.4 officially. The only way we have that is via custom ROMs like CM11.
Those of us in the soak test were told that this latest OTA (.15 release) was the FINAL release for this phone. No more updates. That came straight from a Motorola person in the private soak test forums.
So, don't hold your breath for an "official" Lollipop release. As others have stated, you might see it via Cyanogen or some other custom ROMs, but that will only be for those who have unlocked bootloaders. Those who have already upgraded to the latest OTA without unlocking are screwed forever.
Besides, CM11 for this phone has just recently become completely stable. L isn't even out yet.
here's is how its going to go down.
L comes out nov 3.
cyanoagen inc /PA will merge the code to their repos; take about a month before the first nightly comes out. cm11 is EOL as they move to Lollipop.
gummy slim and others will take the cm base and fork to get their ROMs running too.
then dhacker epinter etc. our great maintainers will port to our devices; first nightly will be for the very brave.
about 2-3 months of bug fixes until it becomes usable.
give or take by feb we have a daily driver of android L
question is with the f* ups of jjbl and kkbl which kernel will be supported to L, i'm sure cm will use a custom kernel just like it did with cm11 before the moto kk ota.
paranoid android to make l for msm8960 unified
just saw a reply from cj360 he will be working on l for msm8960 devices jbbl and kkbl. he said dont hold your breath ait will take a while
Gr8 stuff so far!
I'm enjoying my recently renewed phone anyways!
Btw, this L inspired Nova Pro customizable theme rocks and ART runtime is superb!
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Yeah, it's actually available right now.
Check dhacker29's twitter, he has links up.
Flashing soon
the build
cartpig said:
Yeah, it's actually available right now.
Check dhacker29's twitter, he has links up.
Flashing soon
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I flashed the build from the 14th i have no issues besides the power menu and lack of options, it doesnt have root DO NOT get the one from the play store get supersu 2.1.6 flash recovery. if you get anyother it will soft brick or cause fc issues. The wifi activity arrows are out of line. I will provide the zip. Its smooth no battery life issues its absoultley flawless..
GOOD JOB dhacker29 WE ALL OWE YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!
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I flashed the build from the 14th i have no issues besides the power menu and lack of options, it doesnt have root DO NOT get the one from the play store get supersu 2.1.6 flash recovery. if you get anyother it will soft brick or cause fc issues. The wifi activity arrows are out of line. I will provide the zip. Its smooth no battery life issues its absoultley flawless..
GOOD JOB dhacker29 WE ALL OWE YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!
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No, it has issues. Blue-tooth is wonky and Netflix and Google Play Movies won't work (you can't watch anything).
DHacker told me via Twitter that it's due to the DRM libraries. He hasn't figured out the right combination yet to get it working,
But, other than that, it works well.
11/16 has the battery percentage in the notification icon.
11/17 apparently has radio issues. Some people have reported that it works for 5 minutes and then the radio dies. A reboot fixes it for about 5 minutes, and then it dies again. Might want to stay away. I'm going to test it, and if I see the same issues, I'll go back to 11/16.
On the 11/16 build, here's what happens on my xt926M:
Phone > Recents > View full call history (bottom of screen) > Dialer fc's.
Haven't upgraded to the 11/17 build yet, as I don't want to run into any radio issues that I'm reading about here.
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On the 11/16 build, here's what happens on my xt926M:
Phone > Recents > View full call history (bottom of screen) > Dialer fc's.
Haven't upgraded to the 11/17 build yet, as I don't want to run into any radio issues that I'm reading about here.
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There's a thread in the dev section that's already dedicated to reporting performance, bugs, etc on the new LP builds....
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There's a thread in the dev section that's already dedicated to reporting performance, bugs, etc on the new LP builds....
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Thanks. Just posted my impressions of running the 11/16 build on that thread.
So here's a question (and I'm being serious when I ask, not trying to be snotty):
What about L is everyone so looking forward to that you all need it so bad? Xposed doesn't work on it, and if you're running a custom ROM you're already more than likely modified beyond anything that "Android L" is going to give you...
Other than "material design" and "ART" (along with being near impossible to root without an unlocked bootloader) I haven't even read up on what is so special about L that everyone is creaming their pants over it. Please someone enlighten me to the goodness of L other than "it's Google's lastest software".
EDIT: An acceptable answer would be to get off of the botched up KK Moto gave us... twice... Thus why I am sporting DU now - never going back.
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So here's a question (and I'm being serious when I ask, not trying to be snotty):
What about L is everyone so looking forward to that you all need it so bad?
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For me - in short - battery life. If Android 5.0 hadn't come along soon, I would have downgraded to JB any day now, because that was the perfect OS for my XT926M. For me, KK just does not run right on this device. Why LP? The promise of "Project Volta" and whatnot. Of course, running a pretty much pre-alpha early version of CM 12, battery life is actually worse than it was on KK. I'll chalk it up to the fact that LP still needs development for this device, in hopes of having good battery life, hopefully by next February. Material Design is also pretty to look at.
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For me - in short - battery life. If Android 5.0 hadn't come along soon, I would have downgraded to JB any day now, because that was the perfect OS for my XT926M. For me, KK just does not run right on this device. Why LP? The promise of "Project Volta" and whatnot. Of course, running a pretty much pre-alpha early version of CM 12, battery life is actually worse than it was on KK. I'll chalk it up to the fact that LP still needs development for this device, in hopes of having good battery life, hopefully by next February. Material Design is also pretty to look at.
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Lol I will totally agree with you on the battery life thing! I thought my phone was on its way out with how fast the stock KK versions were draining my battery. Constantly had to keep the phone on a charger when I was in one place. I will say that the battery life on DU was one of the things that really caught my attention from the start. Phone makes it through the day, can make it through the night if I forget to charge it overnight, and no more does the phone heat up to 125-140F. Highest I've seen, even with charging, screen on, streaming movies or TV over LTE, has been 98F. Night and day compared to the stock KK ROMs Moto vomited at us. I'd be surprised if other custom KK ROMs for our phones didn't have much improved battery life over that failed attempt at a PR stunt giving us stock KK.
I have to really give major props to the developers of the DU ROM which I ran for a solid 2 weeks, just prior to upgrading to 5.0 They have actually made KK a bearable OS on this device with which I could get 2 full work days out of the XT926M - battery-wise - with moderate use. Still, the MAXX battery is a beast, and less than 2 days should not be acceptable. Under JB that was the case. If LP doesn't deliver soon, I am definitely going back to JB. And right around next March, my contract for this device is up anyway.
+1 for dirty unicorn dev
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I have to really give major props to the developers of the DU ROM which I ran for a solid 2 weeks, just prior to upgrading to 5.0 They have actually made KK a bearable OS on this device with which I could get 2 full work days out of the XT926M - battery-wise - with moderate use. Still, the MAXX battery is a beast, and less than 2 days should not be acceptable. Under JB that was the case. If LP doesn't deliver soon, I am definitely going back to JB. And right around next March, my contract for this device is up anyway.
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Well, I'm sure this topic has be chewed thousands of times and then chewed again a thousand times more...
So I apologize for that in advance.
But I'm looking for a ROM for my OPO that I will settle with. And the Kernel which works best with it.
I was originally on CM11s (stock) and then tried a lot of different ones during the last few months. I'm currently running MAHDI ROM because it gave me a lot of features which have been interesting enough at the beginning but which I realistically don't need anymore. At least not most of them. And the main reason I don't wanna stay with MAHDI is the amount of crashes I'm having lately with almost any app I'm using including 'Contacts' which crashes often when I just answer the phone call. The phone restarts on it's own, volume bars are all messed up etc. So to sum up, I want to change.
Oxygen OS is not the one I'd like due to the lack of features. I don't need much features that MAHDI offers but I still need some which Oxygen OS does not provide. At all.
I'm planning to change to CM12 (official) and stay there. However, I've heard plenty of bad reviews regarding stability issues, battery extensive drain and some others. How legit are all those reviews? Is it all facts or it's selective like most of the issues users report? Mentioning CM12, I've heard that certain Kernels fix most of the issues, especially the stability ones and the battery drain issue. Please note that battery is quite important to me. I was quite happy with CM11s, not so much with MAHDI but then again, it's not awful. Which kernel works best with CM12 regarding stability and battery life?
Or there are better ROMs than CM12 regarding stability and battery life while not lacking in features?
Again, I know there have been plenty of topics and posts about it but I'd like some help here as I can't dig through thousands of topics and millions of posts to find the proper answer I'm looking for.
Thanks in advance.
There's a ROM review thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/best-favorite-rom-kernel-roll-thread-t2886021
My personal favourite is Exodus though. The only reason I'm not on it right now is because it isn't at 5.1 yet (although they say the update is coming in the next days). You don't need a custom kernel with Exodus, the stock kernel performs really well. It's packed full of great features, it's original development too which means it isn't just cherry-picked features. Plus there's a new feature being implemented called Morph that they say is going to be incredible.
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Alright, thanks.
Then I'll wait for the 5.1 version of Exodus and try it out. Which is the best place/topic to follow in order to get notified when it comes out?
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Alright, thanks.
Then I'll wait for the 5.1 version of Exodus and try it out. Which is the best place/topic to follow in order to get notified when it comes out?
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Try to use the search function...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/official-vaniraosp-t2890749
If I get the 5.0.2 version now... could I just update to the 5.1 version or I'll have to flash it again once it comes out?
Fidel Castro said:
If I get the 5.0.2 version now... could I just update to the 5.1 version or I'll have to flash it again once it comes out?
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Alright, thanks.
I guess I'll wait for the 5.1 version then.
Looks like are carriers are going to get it.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/9055...-mobile-carriers-prepping-6-0-marshmallow.htm
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Looks like are carriers are going to get it.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/9055...-mobile-carriers-prepping-6-0-marshmallow.htm
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Now we just wait to see how long it will take AT&T to actually release the update.
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Now we just wait to see how long it will take AT&T to actually release the update.
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More than likely we will be getting the update in about 3-6 months.
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More than likely we will be getting the update in about 3-6 months.
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NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
jivenene said:
NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
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Nothing STABLE yet. That said, I've been running CM13 for over a month and I love it. Builds are unofficial but the latest builds in the dev forum are really fast, stable and have GPS working (for the first time ever for me, even with KK and LL). I run it with the 777 kernel and it's perfect for me.
jivenene said:
NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
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Resurrection Remix is stable and I like it a lot.
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Resurrection Remix is stable and I like it a lot.
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Is Android 6.0?
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Is Android 6.0?
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yep. http://oadam11.com/LG_G3/
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Nothing STABLE yet. That said, I've been running CM13 for over a month and I love it. Builds are unofficial but the latest builds in the dev forum are really fast, stable and have GPS working (for the first time ever for me, even with KK and LL). I run it with the 777 kernel and it's perfect for me.
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Thanks for the feedback. I saw also (in subsequent posts) that the RR MM 6.0 ROM is also stable. I have never run CM before, so can anyone enlighten me so I don't have to drop 8 hours testing out both ROMs.... my questions are:
1) Which has a better camera experience? CM or RR? Stable, no FC.
2) which is more stable with less problems (ie, GPS, BT, no SD card, no 4G data, etc...)
3) which has better battery life?
4) Do either support device encryption? That was one of the major improvements in MM that no one seems to be talking about.
Thanks alot for the replies, and thanks to the developers for creating these, you guys and gals are awesome!
No camera app will work well other than stock as proprietary drivers and algorithms are used.
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No camera app will work well other than stock as proprietary drivers and algorithms are used.
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Do I have to use an aftermarket camera app like I did on SlimROMs? I used Open Camera. While it worked, it was sssslllloooowwww and sometimes caused the camera to crash, at which point I would have to pull the battery for it to work again (really annoying when you are trying to get Kindergarten graduation pics of your son...). I uninstalled it and reinstalled it, and those problems went away though. Android is so weird...
For this reason, I will never ever to get inside a google autonomous car. I'm gonna be the last old timer left, and everyone will ridicule me. "In my day, WE drove! And we liked it! We loved it!"
No aftermarket app will change the fact that you will be missing the LG firmware.
Personally I love the way LG has the camera setup where I can just tap the screen it focuses then snaps it. No LG camera on 3rd party rom so I went back to stock. If your phone is as important to you as you claim given all the questions you asked it would be worth your while to wait for the official update as I will. Let the rest test and be dissatisfied with the problems and lack of features. Note that I haven't had a crash or freeze since I got away from cm12
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Personally I love the way LG has the camera setup where I can just tap the screen it focuses then snaps it. No LG camera on 3rd party rom so I went back to stock. If your phone is as important to you as you claim given all the questions you asked it would be worth your while to wait for the official update as I will. Let the rest test and be dissatisfied with the problems and lack of features. Note that I haven't had a crash or freeze since I got away from cm12
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Point taken, but I don't think I'll get the official OTA MM anyway because I am not on ATT, but on Cricket. Or would I just download from XDA and flash it myself?
Did you still root and debloat the stock ROM? Or just leave it completely stock?
jivenene said:
Point taken, but I don't think I'll get the official OTA MM anyway because I am not on ATT, but on Cricket. Or would I just download from XDA and flash it myself?
Did you still root and debloat the stock ROM? Or just leave it completely stock?
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After trying many a many roms here for both d851 and d850 (My son and mine), I would definitely stick with stock if you take pics. The d851 is actually in better shape (mm wise) as it has a supported CM13, but the camera is poor. As for cricket- my understanding is that some phones get att updates, and some don't. If an update doesn't happen after you know mm has been released, you can wait a week or two and it very well may be posted here to flash- or you can pick up a att go phone sim for a couple of bucks and flash, then drop the cricket sim back in.
And yes you can root & debloat, but I haven't seen a prepackaged 20g (that has the stagefright patch) debloated yet. I just use super uninstaller app from the play store, which requires root.
here I am just stock with root & recovery (if needed) haven't found a need to use either yet but I like having the option available.
I have all the stock crummy at&t apps disabled because actually "removing" them requires quite a bit of time that I haven't yet found.
If I install cm13 or RR do I lose the LG IR remote?
I don't think there is a custom IR remote apk for MM yet like there is for lollipop.
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I stick to stock based ROMs because of the camera problems on AOSP ROMs. I don't use my camera often, but when I do I want it to work well. I will wait for 6 to be released.
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I stick to stock based ROMs because of the camera problems on AOSP ROMs. I don't use my camera often, but when I do I want it to work well. I will wait for 6 to be released.
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What is a good stock ROM you would recommend?
Hi all,
Ever since CM has been available for my devices, I have been using CM. Tried many other roms, but never really anything that I felt so comfortable with as CM.
Now that CM13 CAF has stopped development ( @myfluxi, you magnificent bastard! You created a great ROM!) I will probably stay on this one for a while but at a certain point move on.
So I started to look into Cataclysm a bit. Any ex-CM users here that went to Cataclysm and never looked back? Or the other way around?
Why exactly?
Please keep it civil, no fanboys or flamewars.
Why don't you try Cataclysm then make your own decision.
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Why don't you try Cataclysm then make your own decision.
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Because of my banking application, every time I try a new ROM (thus factory reset), I have to go back to my bank outside of my office hours, wait in line for forever and have the app reactivated.
So am I a bit reluctant to just switch to see if I like it. Was hoping for some replies from people that switched from one to the other and never went back.
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Because of my banking application, every time I try a new ROM (thus factory reset), I have to go back to my bank outside of my office hours, wait in line for forever and have the app reactivated.
So am I a bit reluctant to just switch to see if I like it. Was hoping for some replies from people that switched from one to the other and never went back.
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i rarely had any issues with Cataclysm. Very stable and smooth rom indeed. Dosent have theme engine though. I Also have been using Chroma and its been great for me. Many CM features inside it. I read somewher that CAFHammerhead will be still going. A different maintainer has stepped up
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I read somewher that CAFHammerhead will be still going. A different maintainer has stepped up
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can you tell me more?
In the CAF forum this information would be highly appreciated - including me!
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Maybe make a new thread for every rom available asking for comparisons between CM and each:good: particular rom.
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can you tell me more?
In the CAF forum this information would be highly appreciated - including me!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/41qrwr/hammerheadcaf_version_of_cyanogenmod_13_has_come/
Hope this helps a bit. Says it has been merged and this was a day ago.
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Maybe make a new thread for every rom available asking for comparisons between CM and each:good: particular rom.
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Yes, but I'm not interested in other roms other than giving Cataclysm a try. So I'll leave that up to others.
Anything else to add to the topic, or just here to live up to your signature?
I would go for Cataclysm over CM13 as Cataclysm feels more stable & smooth compared to CM13.
CM13 sometimes feels unstable as it is in nightly stage.
Surely the opinion might change when CM13 Stable will be available.
Don't get me wrong.
But CM has its own advantages.
I personally dislike CM because the performance has been worse thay it used to be, and idk why. I would prefer Cataclysm over CM and Chroma over Cataclysm, because the performance in Chroma is just great! I also use the elementalx kernel and limit my cpu to 2.0 ghz for battery. So Cataclysm is much more stable than CM, as CM has alot of problems with systemui right now, and with Cataclysm, you wont have an annoying 'Edit Tiles' button in your quick settings.
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Because of my banking application, every time I try a new ROM (thus factory reset), I have to go back to my bank outside of my office hours, wait in line for forever and have the app reactivated.
So am I a bit reluctant to just switch to see if I like it. Was hoping for some replies from people that switched from one to the other and never went back.
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Why not use titanium backup option as I did? No problems in trying other ROMs
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PINki92 said:
Why not use titanium backup option as I did? No problems in trying other ROMs
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Tried it (went to Catcalysm and loved it!) but the backup didn't work.
It brings me to the login page, type my pin and it just doesn't respond. So for this banking app it didn't work, sadly enough
Both the same?
I'm confused!Are these same?How's the battery backup?
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I'm confused!Are these same?How's the battery backup?
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Battery life for me went from barely being able to get through a working day on CM13 to getting home with 40 or sometimes even 50%+ battery on Cataclysm with EX kernel.
So battery was a huge improvement for me, which is what I needed.
Why is cataclysm thread closed? Did I miss something?
Thread is closed at the request of the dev/OP, atl4ntis.
But why without warning? I like catalysm mod and all it extra settings. I hope someone make same mod in the future, when new android version come out.
I have been a flashaholic for some time, probably the Eclair days, but I really question if it's worth it now days.
Most Lollipop and newer ROMs, except for Nexus devices, seem to have some kind of issues... If not immediately, then over time. While at the same time factory ROMs get better, partially because the base code is better and because many manufacturers are getting better at it.
And now, some features are being blocked just by unlocking of bootloader, even if you're otherwise stock, like Android Pay and others like Pok�©mon Go.
I find all I really do now on custom roms is some interface tweaks... Change the battery icon, add a clear all button to recents, and add arrows to the navigation bar, all minor stuff. Otherwise things like Nova Launcher, SwiftKey, and GSAM largely don't even require root anymore much less a custom ROM. Part of it used to be for battery life, but now, at least on modern Moto devices, most custom roms struggle just to match the battery life of stock.
I've tried every rom for this device I can find, here and other places, and they all seem to have a variety of things that fail, from minor annoyances to major services broken like GPS, or they fail over time.
My question for discussion is it still worth it, and why do you ROM or even root anymore?
I used to run a variety CM ROM's on Samsung Galaxy & Note devices. Starting with the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and then every decent device Samsung released until the bootloaders stopped getting cracked.
There was always something that just didn't work right and I'd have random crashes.
But for me it was semi-worth it. I like to tinker and customize a lot.
Fast forward to the last thirteen months with my first non-Samsung since. A Motorola Moto X Pure.
Best damn phone I've ever had.
And there is CM available, but I quickly discovered AOSP ROM's like Dirty Unicorn and Broken OS.
Both these ROM's are FULL of customization not found in Xposed modules, and both ROM's have been 100% reliable.
I may have had one lockup in the last 13 months. And everything from GPS to Bluetooth, etc. have all worked perfectly.
So for me, yes... custom ROM's are more than worth it once you find the right ROM. My phone is heavily customized to my needs and super reliable.
The only thing lacking with MotoX was kernel development. Which I guess is where you start losing some reliability.
But it's also where I'm hoping the Pixel will get some good development and I'm looking forward to it. :good:
Non-rooted stock MM has been going great for me lately. Lots of great built in features like Moto actions, etc. I play Pokemon while walking on my breaks at work, and the last few updates forced my hand to go back to stock. I was (am) also a flashoholic, and it was mainly to have custom features and better performance on outdated and mfg abandoned phones. It was also a must for my Kindle Fire. I really don't see myself going away from stock MM (soon to be Nougat) on my MXPE at this point. I still flash ROMs on my G2 and Note 3 though, but barely use them outside the house.
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I used to run a variety CM ROM's on Samsung Galaxy & Note devices. Starting with the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and then every decent device Samsung released until the bootloaders stopped getting cracked.
There was always something that just didn't work right and I'd have random crashes.
But for me it was semi-worth it. I like to tinker and customize a lot.
Fast forward to the last thirteen months with my first non-Samsung since. A Motorola Moto X Pure.
Best damn phone I've ever had.
And there is CM available, but I quickly discovered AOSP ROM's like Dirty Unicorn and Broken OS.
Both these ROM's are FULL of customization not found in Xposed modules, and both ROM's have been 100% reliable.
I may have had one lockup in the last 13 months. And everything from GPS to Bluetooth, etc. have all worked perfectly.
So for me, yes... custom ROM's are more than worth it once you find the right ROM. My phone is heavily customized to my needs and super reliable.
The only thing lacking with MotoX was kernel development. Which I guess is where you start losing some reliability.
But it's also where I'm hoping the Pixel will get some good development and I'm looking forward to it. :good:
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Hmm... I have been on that "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for a while now. After a month started suffering SoD randomly and Play Services has stopped issues. DU 10.6 couldn't maintain GPS lock, but 10.5 was fine, seemed to effect only a handful of devices, lucky me.
Anyway, thanks for your input.
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Hmm... I have been on that "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for a while now. After a month started suffering SoD randomly and Play Services has stopped issues. DU 10.6 couldn't maintain GPS lock, but 10.5 was fine, seemed to effect only a handful of devices, lucky me.
Anyway, thanks for your input.
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I also have been a avid user of the "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for many months now with no real issues. By chance have you tried a fresh install again. The latest release was back in late August a 4.9.1 version that made corrections to some issues on the 4.9 release.
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I also have been a avid user of the "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for many months now with no real issues. By chance have you tried a fresh install again. The latest release was back in late August a 4.9.1 version that made corrections to some issues on the 4.9 release.
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Not yet... I have been on 4.9.1 already, and have been working with the devs a bit on it but seems mostly isolated to my device.
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Not yet... I have been on 4.9.1 already, and have been working with the devs a bit on it but seems mostly isolated to my device.
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If anything try a fresh install and see if your issues were only from maybe a bad original install. If they show up again then I would say they are isolated to your device.
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If anything try a fresh install and see if your issues were only from maybe a bad original install. If they show up again then I would say they are isolated to your device.
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I'm out of town for the weekend, in a rather rural area, so maybe will try tomorrow evening.
LMT pie, adaway, naptime, and general tweaking are the only reasons I root on a phone this close to stock android.
I didn't run custom ROMs on this phone until about August of this year. That was when battery life on aicp started to get comparable with stock for me. I can get most of the features I want from gravitybox, but I prefer them baked into the ROM. Xposed always seems a little problematic even when you don't install janky modules. I really like the notification led; missed that when I got this phone. I know we're supposed to use moto display, but I think that makes more sense on amoled than a great big LCD. Never had good luck with lightflow or the led enabler apps, but the custom roms work great. I really like slim recents too. I haven't found any modules that work to put KitKat like recents on M ROMs.
TruPureXMM + GravityBox
Loved my MXP so much I bought one for my mom who was hating her iPhone5. Kept it stock (for obvious reasons), so I have a good baseline to compare to my MXP running TruPureXMM + GravityBox. I've tried a bunch of ROMS for this phone but I always come back to TruPureXMM + GravityBox. Oh, and Tasker.
There is no way in hell I would go back to stock.
I used Cyanogenmod on my HTC Incredible and Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Didn't root or ROM for a while due to using the stock ROM on the 2nd generation Verizon Moto X 2014 and stock Android on the Nexus 5X and 6P. But, I had the itch to unlock the bootloader on my Moto X Pure, due to curiousity, and because it's likely that we will only see one more Nougat update. I tried CM13, but I was getting UI freeze ups and slowdowns on multiple builds, so I tried Dirty Unicorns 10.6, and that has been working fine. I may return to the stock ROM after the Nougat update, but in the meantime, I'm happy experimenting with different ROMs on the Pure.
I'd be cool with stock- as long as I could debloat it.
And it was updated fairly quickly.
Stock for this phone is great. Better than most. Only issue really is Moto is so far behind on security updates. They are on what, May I believe? CM13 is Oct.
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Stock here, never a issue. With Nougat in the horizon, a custom ROM is a big NO for me.
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I would say TruPureX with a few mods is a very solid and stable way to go. I myself am on TurboROM which has ceased current development, but have ZERO issues. AICP's MM build is the most feature filled and works flawlessly aside from one issue I don't have on other ROMs, where my bank app only shows black when using the camera to deposit checks, making AICP unusable for me, but highly recommended for others to try as that's the absolute only issue I could find after a week full of testing (Kind of what I do as a hobby is push ROMs to their limits to find the issues.)
So in short: TruPureXMM, TurboROM, AICP - are all great choices without the negatives associated with many custom ROMs.
Pretty sure we are all here to push the ROMs to he limits lol?
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Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.
I'm in a limited data area so I haven't downloaded or tried them out yet.
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Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.
I'm in a limited data area so I haven't downloaded or tried them out yet.
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Running the latest Zephyr after trying AICP and CM14. Uses substratum and SuperSU. Camera recording isn't working with snapdragon camera (FC), google camera (records but doesn't save). Had an android.phone FC but replaced with google phone/contacts and no problems so far. Still need to test speakerphone and bluetooth, but assuming those work as well as 6.0.1 I'm pretty impressed by Birdman.
Any roms that anyone can recommend? CM13 and OrionOS both have very bad stuttering after some time of use. Has anyone tried Pure Nexus or Slim6? Just need a good daily driver that can handle games without heating up so hot, and handle most social apps great...
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Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.
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Seriously? We've got like one and a half here.