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I have a G2x and am running the latest nightly. I have two questions I'd like answered
1. Can my phone still get an automatic update from T-mobile even though my phone is rooted. I noticed when I had FROYO there was an option in my setting to check for "system updates" but that went away on CM7
2. If I don't get an automatic update from T-mobile is there any advantage for me download the update or will the developers eventually integrate the changes into there ROMS?

1, no. Not if you're on CM7, I don't think. Rooted stock, I think so.
2, the developers probably will integrate.
I'd stay rooted and custom.

Doesn't anyone read the forums before posting at all anymore? This has been covered/talked about since the leak happened like 4 to 5 days ago. Geez LOOK AROUND!

Goldbatt said:
I have a G2x and am running the latest nightly. I have two questions I'd like answered
1. Can my phone still get an automatic update from T-mobile even though my phone is rooted. I noticed when I had FROYO there was an option in my setting to check for "system updates" but that went away on CM7
2. If I don't get an automatic update from T-mobile is there any advantage for me download the update or will the developers eventually integrate the changes into there ROMS?
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1. If your phone is rooted then you will NOT get an OTA update NOR will you be able to manually update your phone. Must remove the root first.
2. This totally depends on you on what you want. Look around the forum and see if the new update is right for you with all its pros & cons.

My phone ran the manual update just fine and was rooted. Lost root, of course, after the update though.

Lightning Blue said:
My phone ran the manual update just fine and was rooted. Lost root, of course, after the update though.
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was this using the LG updater tool?

J360 said:
was this using the LG updater tool?
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Yeah, I wasn't going to try OTA over 2G

mhsamma said:
1. If your phone is rooted then you will NOT get an OTA update NOR will you be able to manually update your phone. Must remove the root first.
2. This totally depends on you on what you want. Look around the forum and see if the new update is right for you with all its pros & cons.
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I thought having a custom recovery was the issue, not root. You must have the stock recovery.

I am running EB 1.05 rooted Faux kernel. Ran update check and got prompted to download update.

(SOLVED)[Q] how to tell if phone is already rooted.....

So I just picked up a skyrocket and I went to update OTA and it downloaded the update and when it went to restart to install the update the phone booted into clockwork. I wasnt able to find a thread for this specific device about it so I am asking here now. MOD if there is one please point me in the right direction. I did notice that there is no att bloatware on the device. Thanks.

Terminal editor, type su, press enter, see what happens.
Other clues: presence of Superuser app.
You have a custom recovery also which will need to be ODINed away.
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Yes, it does have superuser. As far as Terminal editor/ODINed i'll be honest I have no idea what you are talking about. First sammy device that I have had long enough to keep and want to keep. Use to HTC branded devices. But thank you I think it is rooted because of the superuser app.

Questions should be posted in Q&A. Moved.
Side note: I recommend you read a lot before you mess with it. Although this device seems to be very difficult to hardbrick misusing ODIN can lead to one.
Cheers

Go to market download root checker. Run it. If a super user prompt appears, that's a good sign.
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occupational_hazard said:
Go to market download root checker. Run it. If a super user prompt appears, that's a good sign.
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Yes it does, superuser prompt comes up. I really would just rather have this back to completly stock running 2.3.6 until the 4.0 update rolls out. Not sure which is better. Rooted or unrooted????? Also am not sure if it has ODIN....I tried to boot into recovery to run ODIN3 and upgrade to 4.0.4 but when trying to power on into bootloader it just vibrates and will not boot until I release the volume up rocker. Other than curiosity the phone works and performs flawlessly. With superuser being installed and after installing titanium I am sure it is rooted. Still not sure what ODIN is (like I said used to the HTC branded phones and never cared about root) Thanks for all the information. Also I am not sure if I will be able to update to 4.0 when the OTA update rolls out, im not concerned about it being rooted or not (have not found a reason to have rooted yet). Anyone know if it can be updated OTA even though it has root?

didozer said:
Yes it does, superuser prompt comes up. I really would just rather have this back to completly stock running 2.3.6 until the 4.0 update rolls out. Not sure which is better. Rooted or unrooted????? Also am not sure if it has ODIN....I tried to boot into recovery to run ODIN3 and upgrade to 4.0.4 but when trying to power on into bootloader it just vibrates and will not boot until I release the volume up rocker. Other than curiosity the phone works and performs flawlessly. With superuser being installed and after installing titanium I am sure it is rooted. Still not sure what ODIN is (like I said used to the HTC branded phones and never cared about root) Thanks for all the information. Also I am not sure if I will be able to update to 4.0 when the OTA update rolls out, im not concerned about it being rooted or not (have not found a reason to have rooted yet). Anyone know if it can be updated OTA even though it has root?
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Ota will not work with cwm...you need the stock recovery to do an ota......rooted I don't believe matters
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StolenVW said:
Ota will not work with cwm...you need the stock recovery to do an ota......rooted I don't believe matters
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Can I download and install via sd card when the update is available. Only time I have used cwm is on my wifes old eris.

didozer said:
Can I download and install via sd card when the update is available. Only time I have used cwm is on my wifes old eris.
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You need stock recovery. You need to read the stickies for a few days before you do anything.
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Or just keep your phone as is, and wait when ics officially drops, just wait a day and someone will have a flashable zip of it for cwm. Might as well learn the perks of being rooted now and learn your way around the phone
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Its all set now. Had to figure out the whole Odin thing. Ended up just redoing to software using my computer with a one click method. Can't remember who made it but it was from android central but mad by member on here. So thank you to that mamber Kenny something?? Any was have it flashed to 4.0.4 with no bugs. Everything works perfect and so far battery life is great. I must say that so far I am loving this phone. At first I wasn't sure about going away from my vivid but I can't find any reason to have any regrets. Thanks guys I appriciate your help and input.

can u put solved in ur title

[Q] Whats the best way to...

Ok so Ive decided to head back to stock. While all this is flashing and what not is fun and maybe invigorating to some, its gotten me worried that my phone is going to explode in my hand or something. I just dont want to cause any problems with my new shiny phone. Can you tell my noob-ness level? lol So Im running CR 2.5 and LiquidSmooth before that. While there is nothing wrong with CR im just too nervous every time I see something unusual.
I have a nandroid BU of Stock with root and unlocked BL and CWM flashed. If I format system, Format data, Format cache and restore that nandroid. Im back to stock ROM and everything with root, correct?
If I choose to unroot, do I have to use ODIN, or is there another way? I pretty much want to go back to getting OTAs but dont want to loose all my Apps. Can I stay rooted, then lock the bootloader and accept OTAs?
Now I also have BUs in TB and MYBackup. If I choose to unroot how do I get my backups restored if Im not rooted?
What are my best options? Suggestions, links are greatly appreciated?

Anybody?
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travis.bridges10 said:
Anybody?
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Yes me! So first of all there are the OTA's in the development section I believe. And you can just flash the OTA to your rooted device description is in the forum. Second If you would want to get back to stock non rooted the best way would be to ODIN also don't forget to reset the flash counter if you needed to return the device to verizon or anything.
Also you can find the latest stock rooted in the development section with all OTA's included. I wouldn't un-root if I were you just because of all the good stuff that is possible with root.
And I just want to tell you that your pretty safe your phone won't explode or anything like that. :laugh: just make sure you follow the instruction correctly and your phone shouldn't over-heat or drain the battery so on. And even if something drain's the battery check the section where you downloaded the ROM from and you will find the solution easy as 1-2-3.
Use the little search button upper corner on the right hand side if you have any questions in the verizon GS3 section of course and you will find everything you need.
If I have a little time later today, I will link you the OTA's and the latest stock-rooted ROM if you can't find it.

Rooting

Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks

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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.

zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?

Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.

The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.

OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.

Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.

usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.

Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.

Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.

Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?

usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.

I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984

nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?

Quacker said:
Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.

rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!

newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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[Q] Stuck on 4.3

Ok so I never messed around with rooting until my phone got the 4.3 update the other night. I decided I hated the update so much that I did the saferoot method, and I'm now rooted.
Only after I did that did I discover that my bootloader is perma-locked and I can't try to unroot or rollback the android version or I'll hardbrick. I can't do roms. Essentially I can't fix what I rooted in order to fix, and trying to enter recovery mode and odin mode lights me up with a verizon warning. So:
1. Just what can I do SAFELY now that I'm rooted? I've already used titanium to uninstall the verizon apps, but I don't know what I'm doing beyond that to remove bloatware/make this thing faster.
2. Will there be a time in the future when I'll be able to totally unlock my phone and escape Verizon's tyranny even though I took the 4.3 OTA? I want to make it look like stock nexus android.
Thanks for any and all help!

1. That's about it. Maybe use Xposed and the Greenify module to hibernate apps that typically drain your battery. Can't do much more besides remove apps on TW 4.3.
2. Possibly or possibly never. Nobody knows if the Knox Bootloader and extra security checks put forth by Verizon will be overcome.
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I use Greenify to hibernate apps I sometimes use and titanium backup to freeze apps I never use. I don't uninstall them just in case. It's running great for me, much better than 4.1.2
I know you can't downgrade from 4.3, but you can't unroot either?
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The Arbiter said:
Ok so I never messed around with rooting until my phone got the 4.3 update the other night. I decided I hated the update so much that I did the saferoot method, and I'm now rooted.
Only after I did that did I discover that my bootloader is perma-locked and I can't try to unroot or rollback the android version or I'll hardbrick. I can't do roms. Essentially I can't fix what I rooted in order to fix, and trying to enter recovery mode and odin mode lights me up with a verizon warning. So:
1. Just what can I do SAFELY now that I'm rooted? I've already used titanium to uninstall the verizon apps, but I don't know what I'm doing beyond that to remove bloatware/make this thing faster.
2. Will there be a time in the future when I'll be able to totally unlock my phone and escape Verizon's tyranny even though I took the 4.3 OTA? I want to make it look like stock nexus android.
Thanks for any and all help!
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go back to this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758 Lots of comments on how to unroot if that is what you want. and give the DEVs some time, there will be a method, there is usually one found after a while. OR stick with what you have for a while, i can make mine look just like my rooted version with little variation, and stock isn't too bad, so far.
be patient grasshopper...

Would I be able to Odin back to 4.1.2 so I can re root, unlock bootloader and flash custom ROM's again? Thanks

bmatty14 said:
Would I be able to Odin back to 4.1.2 so I can re root, unlock bootloader and flash custom ROM's again? Thanks
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No. If you took the 4.3 OTA you are stuck on it. You will hard brick your device if you try to Odin back to 4.1.2. Been mentioned tons of times in numerous threads.
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The Arbiter said:
Ok so I never messed around with rooting until my phone got the 4.3 update the other night. I decided I hated the update so much that I did the saferoot method, and I'm now rooted.
Only after I did that did I discover that my bootloader is perma-locked and I can't try to unroot or rollback the android version or I'll hardbrick. I can't do roms. Essentially I can't fix what I rooted in order to fix, and trying to enter recovery mode and odin mode lights me up with a verizon warning. So:
1. Just what can I do SAFELY now that I'm rooted? I've already used titanium to uninstall the verizon apps, but I don't know what I'm doing beyond that to remove bloatware/make this thing faster.
2. Will there be a time in the future when I'll be able to totally unlock my phone and escape Verizon's tyranny even though I took the 4.3 OTA? I want to make it look like stock nexus android.
Thanks for any and all help!
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Same situation...I flashed Stock_rooted_4.3 after taking the OTA and my phone said unauthorized software detected, take to Verizon. Luckily I found the original image and it flashed back to totally stock 4.3 build ML1.
Basic root would be fine for now so would you please link me to the method you used if you are also on ML1?
Thanks

LordAlexx said:
Same situation...I flashed Stock_rooted_4.3 after taking the OTA and my phone said unauthorized software detected, take to Verizon. Luckily I found the original image and it flashed back to totally stock 4.3 build ML1.
Basic root would be fine for now so would you please link me to the method you used if you are also on ML1?
Thanks
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
saferoot is discovered for Galaxy S4 but can be use safely on S3 also.

buhohitr said:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
saferoot is discovered for Galaxy S4 but can be use safely on S3 also.
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OK cool...just wanted to be sure; I am subscribed to that thread. Just gotta get ADB to see the phone. Everything else works via USB in all modes, kinda odd.
Thanks!