Lagging - Wiping Cache Partition, - Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My moto g 3rd gen is only 6 weeks old, i have a fast sd card installed as internal memory. After installing many apps on my phone, it became very slow. I done a factory reset and things were fine, then it started to happen again. I removed facebook and messenger apps after reading bad reports about it, this helped a bit. My phone still get slow. It speeds up if i 'wipe partition cache'. Why do i need to do this and why is my phone slowing down after installing more apps. I want to keep it snappy like the day i bought it.
I used discomark and you can see how apps open faster after doing this cache wipe, yet the more times you run it, the slower the opening times become.
Has anyone found a solution to this slowing down problem?

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Severe system lag with CM

Hi,
I could do with some help relating to severe lagging with Cyanogenmod.
I've been a (very) happy Cyanogenmod user for a few months now on a rooted HTC Magic. Some time during December I upgraded to CM 4.2.10.1 (the one with the ext2 bug). This severely slowed down my phone, so I jumped onto xda-dev to see what was up. After reading about the ext2 bug, I decided it was time to partition my SD card, so I created a linux-swap, a ext2 and a FAT partition, then upgraded the ext2 to ext3. Next time I turned on the phone, apps2sd kicked in in the background and I was again a happy CM user.
The next day I was trying to move a file onto my phone from someone else's SD card, so I popped out my own one with the phone on - unaware that I REALLY shouldn't do this. Shortly afterwards, my non-standard apps all started disappearing and the phone started to play up. Realising that apps2sd had moved everything to the SD card I put mine back in and restarted the phone. Unfortunately it seems I'd already corrupted permissions for the apps, so after backing everything up I decided to wipe the phone and reformat the SD card with only a linux-swap and FAT partition so I didn't have this issue again.
After the wipe everything seemed to work very well for a while after reinstalling all my apps, however after a few days things started to slow down again. It's now been 2-3 weeks and even with all the CM updates the phone still lags most of the time although the speed varies. Restarting the phone sometimes helps for a short time, but I often get 'System: Force Close/Wait' screens just after turn on. Flashing new versions of CM does speed things up more after reboot but the performance quickly degrades again.
I could try another wipe, however seeing as the problem came back after trying last time I thought I'd ask for some advice with my problem as I don't want to reinstall everything only to be back to where I am now.
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Paul
Food for thought : ive tried using cyanogen since ive got my magic, and it was always like this (Tried .12.2 and .13). And i've never even tried using app2sd. I asked the gang down in irc, they told me to get some bacon :/
OR you could have a damaged sdcard, badsectors and all. Try not using apps2sd for a while.

Problem with microSD Card

Hi guys,
I've been having this problem for quite some time now. I first noticed this when I shifted from one custom ROM (SAGA LBC) to another (CyanogenMod 7.1). At first, my phone kept resetting after a reboot. At first, I thought it was an incompatible ROM. For a time, wiping cache and dalvik cache via the recovery interface did the trick. But then, it just got worse and worse. I eventually reverted back to LBC, thinking that it might be Cyanogen. But, as it turns out, my phone still kept resetting. Even as mundane a task as going to the settings menu freezes up my phone, requiring me to reset, sometimes even by pulling out the battery. I tried doing the wiping of the caches again, bit it never became effective.
Then I read somewhere that Andoid seems to be uber sensitive to file corruptions and defragmentation of the microSD card, so I defragged the SD, fixed the permissions, and deleted the LOST.DIR and tmp folders. Everything went smoothly at first, but then after a couple of days, my phone kept rebooting again. To verify that it was the microSD at fault, I removed it for the mean time. Since then, my phone hasn't frozen nor rebooted.
One other thing: whenever I check the microSD via Windows (right click --> Properties --> Tools), everything seems to be in order as Windows can't detect anything wrong. Right now, I've ran chkdsk :f /f /r on the drive, but Windows says that everything is fine. I haven't reinstalled the microSD yet, as I want to run a more thorough test before I do.
Have any of you encountered this? Could you guys give me suggestions on what to do, a better tool than chkdsk, etc? I can buy another card, but I don't want to do that just yet. My microSD is 32GB, and I don't want to just throw it away or something

internal storage full

I'm running [GT-P31XX][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1, just fyi
So all of a sudden I can't install any more apps... it keeps saying internal storage full.
I've even uninstalled all the "extra's" I've been running.. I went from like 150 or more apps installed down to (what I consider) hardly any and it just keeps saying it.
It's not talking about the internal SD card is it? I have almost a gig or room on that.
I'm at a loss here.
Any apps to clear my memory or something? I've used Allininetool, doesn't help, SDMaid, doesn't help... a couple other that I can't remember the names of, they didn't help either.
bleh!
Thanks i advance for any help.
donniegalaxy2 said:
I'm running [GT-P31XX][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1, just fyi
So all of a sudden I can't install any more apps... it keeps saying internal storage full.
I've even uninstalled all the "extra's" I've been running.. I went from like 150 or more apps installed down to (what I consider) hardly any and it just keeps saying it.
It's not talking about the internal SD card is it? I have almost a gig or room on that.
I'm at a loss here.
Any apps to clear my memory or something? I've used Allininetool, doesn't help, SDMaid, doesn't help... a couple other that I can't remember the names of, they didn't help either.
bleh!
Thanks i advance for any help.
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same issue is there in my aunts tab 2..on doing a factory reset..all is fine, but after a month only having a bunch apps (consuming max 1gb space), it shows that there is no space! (but doing a factory reset again solves the problem)
planning to take it to the service center!
peRFect! said:
same issue is there in my aunts tab 2..on doing a factory reset..all is fine, but after a month only having a bunch apps (consuming max 1gb space), it shows that there is no space! (but doing a factory reset again solves the problem)
planning to take it to the service center!
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I reflashed the rom and cleared cache and dalvik. seems to be ok now but thats curious as to why it happens.
Can't tell you why this happens and After trying to install some large games and apps i ran in to this. I didn't know that you could only install to the internal SD otherwise i would have got the 16GB version.
After a lot of searching i came across this in the general section, it (so far) has worked like a dream for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097
[EDIT] This only works on 4.1.x versions.
Actually there is no need to reflash ROMs or even factory reset. I have read about such problems and they are usually related to cache. I do not know the exact name or type of cache which cause the problem, but I recall 2 solutions:
1) Install either Quick System Info Pro or ES Task Manager. Use the 'Clear cache' function inside these apps then restart device.
2) If you do not like to install these apps, then you can boot into Recovery mode & select "Clear cache' from the recovery menu.
I have read these solutions on several forums, including here at XDA Developers. I am not certain if they will work as I myself have not encountered such problems. Maybe if anyone does & needs help, do feel free to try these solutions?

What have I done wrong - extrem performance slowdown

Hi guys, I have a situation with my moto g, I have the 8gb version since one week, I've installed a 128gb sdcard on the phone formated as internal storage... During a few days I've no problem with performance at all.... Then yesterday I decided to encrypt my phone and today I loaded 60gb an data, music, photos and videos.
Since then my phone is struggling from time to time to do simple tasks like opening an app or dragging the status bar down... Is nothing like that happens always or with the same apps.... Is random, sometimes I just wanna to unlock the phone and it takes like minutes for the keyboard to come up.
Anyone with an idea of what this might be? Was it the encryption? Should I give the phone time to index all the data?
I know it's not a problem from the SD card, because it's the fastest sandisk that I could get.
Since you asked in the form of a question, I will give you the best answer I can based on your specific questions...
This is probably a multitude of issues... first, setting up your SD card as internal storage will typically show down performance, although sometimes not noticably. Second, you encrypted internal storage (your SD card) this slows down your system as well. Third, you loaded 60GB of data, music, photos, and videos, which will take a VERY long time to index and put into the Storage and Media databases, and there databases also reside on the internal storage, which access to has been slowed down significantly due to being on an SD card and encrypted. These 3 things combined will likely give extremely poor performance, for a time at least.
My first question would be how long has it been since you loaded that 60GB of data? On an idle device it would take several hours (maybe days) to index it all and update the databases...
Thanks, I might have precipitated myself in thinking that something was wrong, yet today the phone locked it self a few times, one time the process system stopped responding... I will wait until tomorrow if the problem persists I will try deleting the biggest folder ( music 40gb) and if I see some improvement I will add the music in steps.
I'm pretty sure it was the encryption. My phone, with a similar setup (1GB/8GB phone, 64GB SD as internal storage, reasonable amount of media) also showed a gigantic speed loss when I foolishly enabled encryption. I tried to work with it for some days until it became clear the situation wouldn't get any better. After a factory reset, formatting the SD again as internal and copying the media again, the phone feels even faster than it was out of the box.
I've also my phone encrypted for quite a few months now (did this already on lollipop), with actually no real complaints. However since a few days I've noticed huge performance hits as well. I'm also considering a factory reset...
Thanks for all inputs , I have restored the phone without encryption and everything runs smoothly again.

Not a screen of death but maybe a glimpse of it

My Note20U5G has had this small glitch for a while:
When I am using it, especially it I am opening an app window or typing inside one, EVERYTHING on my screen disappears for like 1 second. The only thing left is the homescreen wallpaper (without icons on it) and after that 1 second everything comes back to normal, if I was typing the screen where I left of, I am taken back to continue typing, etc... Now, even though this happens only once or up to twice a day, I figured it could be a sign that something is wrong.
So what I did was, is that I deactivated all apps that (in my opinion) could've contributed to this; onehand operation plus, live wallpapers, some apps in the background such as wireless power sharing, that I really never use.
However, no help. The twice a day glitch continued.
Next, I wiped cache using the "safe mode" or whatever it is called. I did this 2 days ago. And yesterday the whole day phone operated without glitches. But as day passed today I got one again.
As I am clueless what to do next I figured to do a hard reset, that is set the phone to factory settings.
Since I've owned this phone since November, there's some preparation to do before reseting to factory settings, so I thought to ask you guys if someone else had this glitch, as I was unable to google for it.
Thanks
Looks like a system UI crash and spontaneous recovery.
Do you have any apps put to sleep /standby or enlisted in deep sleep esp system apps
Also do you have power saving turned on.
Any thing that you changed in developers options.
I would update my phone to latest firmware and factory reset it.
Update all apps
Report back with an update
fizzingbees said:
Looks like a system UI crash and spontaneous recovery.
Do you have any apps put to sleep /standby or enlisted in deep sleep esp system apps
Also do you have power saving turned on.
Any thing that you changed in developers options.
I would update my phone to latest firmware and factory reset it.
Update all apps
Report back with an update
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Nope, I don't have power saving on.
Here are my deep sleep apps. Nothing worth mentioning there IMO, all of them are some apps I might use but I don't ever need them running in the background.
If I go for factory reset, what is the best way to do it and no lose any personal data by chance. Obviously, I would back up photos to my computer... But other than that, what should I be careful about?
Try clearing the system cache.
Factory reset time, may be malware or maybe the OS or a vital system apk got corrupted.
Almost always caused by a 3rd party app especially launchers.
You got an SD card slot, use it!
It's a data drive; you have a dual drive PC
OS, download folder and apps go on internal storage.
Critical data, user files, music, vids, DCIM (move images here once a week or so) and backup copies of apps, app settings backup, phone contact backups, etc go on the SD card.
Use ApkExport to copy all your apps... no Playstore needed for a reload.
Everything you need for a full restore should be on the SD card. Think it through completely to avoid unpleasant surprises.
The Lexar 512 gb V30 card works well $75.
Other cards may be faster; only use a name brand card with at least a V30 rating.
Note: backup the SD card to at least 2 hhds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other!
blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
Factory reset time, may be malware or maybe the OS or a vital system apk got corrupted.
Almost always caused by a 3rd party app especially launchers.
You got an SD card slot, use it!
It's a data drive; you have a dual drive PC
OS, download folder and apps go on internal storage.
Critical data, user files, music, vids, DCIM (move images here once a week or so) and backup copies of apps, app settings backup, phone contact backups, etc go on the SD card.
Use ApkExport to copy all your apps... no Playstore needed for a reload.
Everything you need for a full restore should be on the SD card. Think it through completely to avoid unpleasant surprises.
The Lexar 512 gb V30 card works well $75.
Other cards may be faster; only use a name brand card with at least a V30 rating.
Note: backup the SD card to at least 2 hhds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other!
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LoL I didn't know there was a memory slot, didn't need to think about it since I switched from a 128gb phone to this 256gb. Yeah, gonna get an sd card. Thanks
vdamir78 said:
LoL I didn't know there was a memory slot, didn't need to think about it since I switched from a 128gb phone to this 256gb. Yeah, gonna get an sd card. Thanks
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Yeah once you get use to it, you'll demand it.
All my PCs and laptops are dual drive. It saves a lot of time, pain and boosts performance.
I can do a full reload on my Note 10+ in about 2 hrs and have it back to about 99% fully operational with no internet connection.
Without the card it becomes a gruelling 8+ hour process including having to load over 240 gb of data.
Backup everything now as once an Android OS starts exhibiting instability it's one boot away from a boot loop☠
They are very rare but that's how they start many times
Alright, I have just done one more thing: I completely disabled Nova Launcher (stopped using it anyways after I bought this N20U). If that doesn't help, I am proceeding with the reset.
vdamir78 said:
Alright, I have just done one more thing: I completely disabled Nova Launcher (stopped using it anyways after I bought this N20U). If that doesn't help, I am proceeding with the reset.
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The Samsung launcher is better anyway, rock solid stable, fast with little battery usage.
Clear the system cache.
A 3rd party launcher can definitely crash a Samsung. One boot looped my Note 10+ twice, back to back over a year ago. I was seeing red.
Still running on the OS from that 2nd reset... still fast and stable less the 3rd party launcher
No essential app in deep sleeping apps.
Boot to safe mode and see if the problem persist, otherwise it's one of your apps responsible for this anomaly.
Copy entire internal drive data to SD card it flash drive via otg adapter
Use smart switch to backup Samsung notes.
Use swift backup or alpha backup app for contacts logs, messages and apps ( external data not saved fully on non-root devices)
Backup whatsapp on Google drive.
Afterwards, either flash factory firmware via odin to completely remove all traces of bugs ( recommended, use csc instead of home csc to wipe internal storage and all data)
Or factory reset from settings.
Then boot to recovery and wipe internal storage +factory reset again.. Its a bit extra but would eliminate any software related issues.
Report with update
blackhawk said:
The Samsung launcher is better anyway, rock solid stable, fast with little battery usage.
Clear the system cache.
A 3rd party launcher can definitely crash a Samsung. One boot looped my Note 10+ twice, back to back over a year ago. I was seeing red.
Still running on the OS from that 2nd reset... still fast and stable less the 3rd party launcher
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I have seen this issue with good lock app on my note 4.. Uninstalling it caused system ui to crash repeatedly making phone unusable
vdamir78 said:
Alright, I have just done one more thing: I completely disabled Nova Launcher (stopped using it anyways after I bought this N20U). If that doesn't help, I am proceeding with the reset.
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That's strange.
I have been rocking nova launcher since completing setup wizard. No issues so far.
fizzingbees said:
I have seen this issue with good lock app on my note 4.. Uninstalling it caused system ui to crash repeatedly making phone unusable
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Wonder if it was the Lockstar module?
I never use any apps like that... once bitten, twice shy Other than it's goofy lame main page Good Lock gives me zero issues.
It wasn't Nova that boot looped the 2 OSs
It was slower and used more battery though then One UI... Samsung has made big improvements to their native launcher. The most customizable stock Android platform in existence too. It runs very well, uses very little power and is rock solid stable at least on my Note 10+/Pie variant. It has never crashed.
blackhawk said:
Wonder if it was the Lockstar module?
I never use any apps like that... once bitten, twice shy Other than it's goofy lame main page Good Lock gives me zero issues.
It wasn't Nova that boot looped the 2 OSs
It was slower and used more battery though then One UI... Samsung has made big improvements to their native launcher. The most customizable stock Android platform in existence too. It runs very well, uses very little power and is rock solid stable at least on my Note 10+/Pie variant. It has never crashed.
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Actually it was 2017 version of Samsung good lock app that changed the lockscreen and quick panel.
Not like the modules now.
Update:
I decided to go for a samsung microsd, but I had to order a 256gb on ebay. So while I am waiting for it, I disabled good lock (nicelock to be precise) and I completely uninstalled Nova launcher.
No glitches since then.
Update:
After going back & forth with sd card purchase for my phone, I finally got a 256gb sd card that is the same size as my note20ultra's internal memory. So I was thinking, is it possible to completely mirror the phone's storage to sd card, and after I factory reset the phone, to copy that mirror back to the phone.
I used to do this with some PCs at my work a long time ago, using some sort of "ghost software"... so anyways, my sd card is capable to take every single data from the phone, what is my best backup/restore option to go for after a factory reset?
(Btw, the problem that I described in the opening post still persists, however it has become less frequent, like 50% less of a "hiccup" than it used to be)
vdamir78 said:
(Btw, the problem that I described in the opening post still persists, however it has become less frequent, like 50% less of a "hiccup" than it used to be)
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Which OS and Samsung UI are installed on your N20U?
Are any applications listed in your Care report "Application history" in the Samsung Battery and device care section?
I had major "issues" with the System UI crashing after updating to Android 11/One UI 3.0 until the bugs were fixed with an update.
Surely hope you find a fix and do not have to factory reset your phone.
vdamir78 said:
Update:
After going back & forth with sd card purchase for my phone, I finally got a 256gb sd card that is the same size as my note20ultra's internal memory. So I was thinking, is it possible to completely mirror the phone's storage to sd card, and after I factory reset the phone, to copy that mirror back to the phone.
I used to do this with some PCs at my work a long time ago, using some sort of "ghost software"... so anyways, my sd card is capable to take every single data from the phone, what is my best backup/restore option to go for after a factory reset?
(Btw, the problem that I described in the opening post still persists, however it has become less frequent, like 50% less of a "hiccup" than it used to be)
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I don't know of any app that can mirror Android drives real time. That not to say there isn't.
You would definitely take a performance hit if you could do it.
Like I said before the best solution is to use the SD card as the data drive. Just make sure to backup it up redundantly.
The lag your describing is bothersome. Track it down. It may be malware.
Clear system cache and do a hard reboot.
Do a network reset and clear the sim card tool kit data. Toggle Developer options off to clear it's settings... you can reenable then.
Disable all animations.
Is it still there?
Does it happen in safe mode?
If a 3rd party app is the cause either correct it or uninstall the app.
If you can't resolve the issue consider it malware and do a factory reset.
See if it's there after the reset before loading apps. If still present reflash the firmware.
If still present it may be a hardware issue.
This phone should be rocket fast with no lag.
There's near zero lag on my 10+ which has a slower memory and CPU.
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I don't know of any app that can mirror Android drives real time. That not to say there isn't.
You would definitely take a performance hit if you could do it.
Like I said before the best solution is to use the SD card as the data drive. Just make sure to backup it up redundantly.
The lag your describing is bothersome. Track it down. It may be malware.
Clear system cache and do a hard reboot.
Do a network reset and clear the sim card tool kit data. Toggle Developer options off to clear it's settings... you can reenable then.
Disable all animations.
Is it still there?
Does it happen in safe mode?
If a 3rd party app is the cause either correct it or uninstall the app.
If you can't resolve the issue consider it malware and do a factory reset.
See if it's there after the reset before loading apps. If still present reflash the firmware.
If still present it may be a hardware issue.
This phone should be rocket fast with no lag.
There's near zero lag on my 10+ which has a slower memory and CPU.
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The problem is that it is so random. I could not pinpoint any app to relate to it. I unistalled some apps in the meantime, but it still persists (less frequent). If I restarted in safe mode I would probably have to keep the phone in safe mode for at least 3 days to be sure.
Is there a malware detecting antivirus for android that works efficiently?
vdamir78 said:
The problem is that it is so random. I could not pinpoint any app to relate to it. I unistalled some apps in the meantime, but it still persists (less frequent). If I restarted in safe mode I would probably have to keep the phone in safe mode for at least 3 days to be sure.
Is there a malware detecting antivirus for android that works efficiently?
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Reload time if the steps I mentioned don't work or if you did a major firmware upgrade without a factory reset.
Malwarebytes is good but there are always new undetectable infections floating around.
With odd behavior that cause can't be determined a virus or rootkit is a real possibility. They are very rare if you're careful but can happen.
I caught a trojan preloader on my 10+ about a year ago in the download folder with Malwarebytes. Fortunately I found/deleted it before it could download it's payload package and install it. It self downloaded through the Samsung browser... a nasty little bugger.
Malwareb. detected one malware app today, some photoediting app...deleted it, so let's see...

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