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My brand new Vox is continously rebooting. The only way I can get it to boot is to take out the microsd card, then put it back in after it boots. The microsd card works fine afterwoods, but its really annoying.
Anyone else have this problem?
Looks like you installed something which the Vox doesn't like.
Perhaps facade? (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307378)
Had the exact same problem. Removing the microSD worked also.
Afterwards it was working fine. The problem started after installing
BatMonitor on the device. Removing it solved the problem permanently.
I would suggest you go through the programs you installed and check
to see wich one is causing the issue.
Thanks guys, I have a feeling you are both right and it is a programs I have installed. I wonder if it's newsbreak as my data file is on my microsd card. I guess I should wipe the device and start over....
For a temporary fix, remove the MicroSD, boot, then put the MicroSD back on.
For a more permanent fix: Install SKTools Lite and run the "Notifications Queue" tool. Then Press ACTION > Mark Duplicates. If you scroll down you will see some duplicates checked. Next press ACTION > Delete marked.
That should keep you running for a while. If the problem re-appears in the future, repeat this procedure.
Thanks. I read that post on Modaco too, but it didn't work for me. For now I just remove the microsd card when I reboot. I guess I will wipe the device and start over at some point...just had everything I wanted loaded right
ayan said:
For a temporary fix, remove the MicroSD, boot, then put the MicroSD back on.
For a more permanent fix: Install SKTools Lite and run the "Notifications Queue" tool. Then Press ACTION > Mark Duplicates. If you scroll down you will see some duplicates checked. Next press ACTION > Delete marked.
That should keep you running for a while. If the problem re-appears in the future, repeat this procedure.
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Had the same problem. Thought it was the Facade, but it turns out not. I don't know what it is but I basically did a hard reset. Put everything I wanted back into the phone and than turned on without MSD card. Once it rebooted, I put the card back in. Since than no reboot problems so far.
I had the same problem, although I am not sure if it is related to installing any particular program. Initially the phone was fine and then it started re-booting on startup. I saw a suggestion of running SKtools and removeing duplicates in the Notification table, this worked for a while, then it came back again.
At first the only cure appeared to be to re-boot without the sd card inserted - inserting it again after the phone was running (I even had the same problem if a blank sd card was card inserted)
I then read about someone putting the phone in Flight mode before turning it off - this also solved the problem - better than removing the card each time.
Mike
yep, this happened to me, although i have no programs installed on my S710! (tho it did have a nasty drop onto the ground - which shouldnt realli affect it)took out the card, and it booted up fine! i keep my phone on 24/7 normally but had run outta battery!
Cheers!
Formatting the MicroSD card worked for me
Problem came back again today, and sett flight mode did not fix it, then i found this http://www.modaco.com/Continuous-reboots-t256186.html
which suggested renaming omap850_sdhc.dll to omap850_sdhc.dll.ol
but in my S710 I only have omap850_sdhc_mux.dll and that file is in rom and I can't copy or rename it.
Looks like it might be a sd card driver bug.
Mike
wizgnome said:
Problem came back again today, and sett flight mode did not fix it, then i found this http://www.modaco.com/Continuous-reboots-t256186.html
which suggested renaming omap850_sdhc.dll to omap850_sdhc.dll.ol
but in my S710 I only have omap850_sdhc_mux.dll and that file is in rom and I can't copy or rename it.
Looks like it might be a sd card driver bug.
Mike
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have you tried to edit the file with a copy of total commader??? sorry if it's such an obvious question...
I did try this with Total Comander!
Looking around at other posts/forums it looks like it is a WM6 problem. Probably related to the SD card driver.
At the moment the only consistant suggestion, is to reboot with the SD card removed and insert it when the phone is back up and running.
I managed to get the phone to boot with the SD card inserted!
I know that when booting that I do not run any applications which are installed on the SD card. But the home screen does display things which are located on the SD card - in particular the skype plugin, and the mru list display icons from files located on the SD card.
I change my homescreen to "Sindows Simple" which does not contain either of these and re-booted.
The phone came back up first time!
- Is windows trying to access the card too soon - before the driver has loaded maybe?
Mike
wizgnome said:
I managed to get the phone to boot with the SD card inserted!
I know that when booting that I do not run any applications which are installed on the SD card. But the home screen does display things which are located on the SD card - in particular the skype plugin, and the mru list display icons from files located on the SD card.
I change my homescreen to "Sindows Simple" which does not contain either of these and re-booted.
The phone came back up first time!
- Is windows trying to access the card too soon - before the driver has loaded maybe?
Mike
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Not sure if its trying to access it to soon but with my HTC Herald I had similar problem. By removing and home screen plugin's related to the memory card, as well as any other links to the memory card such as storing PIE cache and saving pictures it seemed to work for a bit, but just as I thought I solved it, the problem re-appeared. Paul seemed to have fixed the issue for ppc's (sdhc dll that was causing the problem)but it doesn't seem as though the solution can be carried over because the vox is not SDHC. Another cause the some speculate is that there are multiple notifications that boot at the same time, maybe cleaning these would help.
On another note I have just upgraded my friend's vox to the dopod rom and it seems as if the problem has disappeared (hopefully for good.) I will try to invoke the problem again by running programs from the memory at boot and see if this nag has been squeezed out by HTC sister company. Has anyone else tried to upgrade to the dopod rom???
cheers
Hi,
I had previously removed duplicate notifications and ensured that no applications on the SD card were run at start up, including setting the browser cache back to the phone memory.
I can now cause the problem to occur or boot normally just by switching homescreens.
I edited my home screens xml to remove all plugins that refered to applications on the sd card, including the mru list - this home screen allows normal boot. The other version causes the re-boot loop.
Mike.
I can confirm that my numerous attempts to invoke the boot-loop after upgrading to the dopod rom have thankfully failed.
neptune 1
boot loop 12083798
Ok so maybe the boot loop has gotten the best of me (atleast 40 hard resets) over the past couple of months, but the problems have been choked to death on my herald and the vox...any last words...
EDITS if this mf'er pulls an Arnold like "I'll be back" I swear ima go all terminator on this phone and blow it to pieces with a pack of m-80's
I managed to solve this problem on my phone by renaming the directory "/windows/Autorun/Storage Card" to "/windows/Autorun/OldStorage Card"
Maybe it would help in your cases..
Hi,
I could do with some help relating to severe lagging with Cyanogenmod.
I've been a (very) happy Cyanogenmod user for a few months now on a rooted HTC Magic. Some time during December I upgraded to CM 4.2.10.1 (the one with the ext2 bug). This severely slowed down my phone, so I jumped onto xda-dev to see what was up. After reading about the ext2 bug, I decided it was time to partition my SD card, so I created a linux-swap, a ext2 and a FAT partition, then upgraded the ext2 to ext3. Next time I turned on the phone, apps2sd kicked in in the background and I was again a happy CM user.
The next day I was trying to move a file onto my phone from someone else's SD card, so I popped out my own one with the phone on - unaware that I REALLY shouldn't do this. Shortly afterwards, my non-standard apps all started disappearing and the phone started to play up. Realising that apps2sd had moved everything to the SD card I put mine back in and restarted the phone. Unfortunately it seems I'd already corrupted permissions for the apps, so after backing everything up I decided to wipe the phone and reformat the SD card with only a linux-swap and FAT partition so I didn't have this issue again.
After the wipe everything seemed to work very well for a while after reinstalling all my apps, however after a few days things started to slow down again. It's now been 2-3 weeks and even with all the CM updates the phone still lags most of the time although the speed varies. Restarting the phone sometimes helps for a short time, but I often get 'System: Force Close/Wait' screens just after turn on. Flashing new versions of CM does speed things up more after reboot but the performance quickly degrades again.
I could try another wipe, however seeing as the problem came back after trying last time I thought I'd ask for some advice with my problem as I don't want to reinstall everything only to be back to where I am now.
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Paul
Food for thought : ive tried using cyanogen since ive got my magic, and it was always like this (Tried .12.2 and .13). And i've never even tried using app2sd. I asked the gang down in irc, they told me to get some bacon :/
OR you could have a damaged sdcard, badsectors and all. Try not using apps2sd for a while.
I have a HTC Fuze (AT&T GSM). I followed the instruction on (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981) for FRX06 but it keeps getting stuck at "task rpcrouter:15 blocked for more than 120 sec". It never gets to the calibration screen... I even tried downloading and using a pre-made ts-calib file but the results were the same.
I also tried numerous other posts ROMS (FRX03, FRX04, XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab, even tried XDAndroid 2.1 (rel 2.5a).cab) but I still get stuck at the "task rpcrouter:15 blocked for more than 120 sec" error.
I read in another post back in Feb 11 that it was an issue and someone acknowledging it is an issue but no solution stated in the 19 pages of forums. Another user states this is a "bootloop" but did not offer any solution.
In any case, I never got to any graphical screens - never got past the text screens (white text on black background).
Help!
Actually the fix was to delete the data.img but that would be the "quick fix". This WAS mentioned under the troubleshooting section of THIS post. If you really want to see the calibration screen, download an older kernel package as stated HERE.
BE SURE TO SAVE THE FILE CALLED ts-calibration THAT YOU JUST CREATED!​Additionally, I want you to format your microSD and start over from scratch. Just to flush out any other issues that you and may not encounter; such as the "waiting on SD card" issue some complain about. When I say format, I mean use something other than windows to format your microSD. I use the free version of partition wizard and it seems to do the trick. IF you want something a little less program intensive, I would suggest using SD Formatter. Again, not required but it might help solve other issues you may encounter on down the line.
All of that being said, I have a RAPH110 aka at&t Fuze, so I know this process works. If it doesn't work for you, YOU are doing something wrong!
Also, if you insist that you would rather skip the calibration screen, you may use my ts-calibration file. Make sure you place it where the file called haret.exe is.
CLICK HERE for your viewing pleasure!
Same problem with FRX06 even after FORMAT with OVERWRITE of the microSD. I included the ts-calib file. Got past "Creating a new Data Store" then got stuck at "mdp irq is already 4 4 and above mdp_dma: busy" where it would retry after getting stuck for 120 sec.
I then reformatted again and this time tried "XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab". Got to "Creating a new Data Store" and it is stuck there for over an hour - so I gave up.
I then tried deleting the files for "XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab" and this time tried "XDAndroid 2.1 (rel 2.5a).cab". Same issue.
Next, I tried loading Android on the Device instead of Storage Card. Stuck at the same point... I waited 5 min then quit.
I read elsewhere possibility of problems using micro SDHC cards... do you have a microSD card in your Fuze? My card is a Patriot microSDHC 8GB.
As always, there may be a bad batch but have had no such luck with buying PNY nor SanDisk. You did download 1231 as mentioned earlier, correct? So, if you want to try that first, you'll need to delete the existing modules-xxx and zImage file and extract the contents of the downloaded file till you see the modules-xxx and zImage_xxx. Rename the one called zImage_xxx to just zImage and be sure to place them with the file called haret.exe and launch haret once more. Keep in mind, downloading the kernel packages may not be required but in order to test things out and to see what works best, it is. Good luck my friend!
So I tried again and let the install run overnight (>4 hr). In the morning, it was still looping so I stopped it. Today, when I looked at the microSD, I see 171 FSCH0xxx files... most are 32K. 170 was 192K and 171 was 1.81M total of these files were about 158MB. Does this indicate anything?
Anyway, I reformatted my microSD card twice using the SDFormatter (Overwrite, Size Adjustment on), loaded FRX06, replaced the set with the 2 files you sent and renamed the zImage file. Booting up, goes into text screen, still get the timeout error. This time I noticed that there was a line that says "INFO: task dd:91 blocked for more than 120 seconds." My guess is that it's creating those FSCK files again... meaning SD card errors?
Have you another microSD to confirm whether it is a bad card? I just started from scratch (for the 50th time today) and I am NOT seeing what you are seeing(I don't see any FSCHxxx files)... I don't suggest trying anything older than FRX06. If anything, I'd suggest you see if you can find another microSD and probably only use that card for temporary storage.
OK, I'll have to go get another card this weekend then. I do think it seems like the card has some kind of compatibility problem... what brand are you using?
For tonight, I've formatted the card twice and then am trying the "XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab" now... It is stuck in the "Creating a New Data store" line for >20 minutes now... (FXR06 passes that but gets hung up trying to fix the file system). I'll wait a while longer and see if it will miraculously finish creating the new data store.
Thanks for your suggestions.
I have a PNY and SanDisk both 4GB class 4. I think bestbuy has the PNY one for like 30 bucks (maybe cheaper?)
I don't know what the problem is but I'm willing to help out how ever I can
I downloaded MiniTool Partition Wizard and deleted the microSD card's partition then recreated it. Then, I recopied the files into the root of the microSD, installed into my FUZE, and clicked on herat... this time it got into the Android graphical portion (no calibration needed since I included the ts-calibration file), stayed at the ANDROID screen for a while then went blank. I waited about 6 minutes then turned it off. When I went to see what's inside the microSD, I found the data.img file 256MB and also messed up file system again - since I shut it off prematurely.
With a lot more confidence this time, I repartitioned the microSD again, placed my Android files under its own folder. Crossing my fingers...
Ah, so you've been using the file path method then? If that is the case all one would need to do is put rel_path=FRX06 in the startup.txt file, between the quotation marks. Additionally, if you prefer more ogranization and plan to run more than one build at a time, it is best to have that command in your startup.txt file for each build. Keeping in mind, once you do this, it pretty much sets the default path for that build to that particular folder. I wasn't aware that you were starting one folder deep, my apologies . It's best to use the root folder for troublshooting and what not. I prefer to only use one build at a time because I find it easier to keep problems isolated and it helps me troubleshoot at the same time.
Additionally, if you want a more easier way to troubleshoot Android issues and you don't mind waiting for the data store (aka data.img) to be recreated at boot time, then one would only need to delete the data.img file (keep in mind if you have any settings or contacts, these may be deleted as well). What I usually do is once I get a good data.img, I make a backup and zip them up (or use your method of archiving). I also make a backup before I make any changes, like if I am testing out a new rootfs or kernel package. Most of this has been discussed and mentioned in the Android forums.
That did not work so I reformatted again and went back to using the root of the microSD for Android... FRX06 was stuck on GUI but blank screen all night - I turned it off in the morning. Back to the drawing board. At least I got the microSD issue figured out... on to the next mystery.
Update:
OK, partitioned my 8GB to 7GB FAT32, 512MB ext3, 512MB linux swap. Loaded FXR06 into the root folder, booted and it works this time. However, once into Android, it would lock up.
Case 1: Boot up android, clicked on Gmail, screen is android but nothing in the screen except background. Took out battery to turn off.
Case 2: Boot up android, left it alone, screen turned off - will not wake up. Took out battery to turn off.
Case 3: Boot up android, went to settings to set up wifi, froze. Took out battery to turn off.
Case 4: Boot up android, went to settings to set up wifi, entered WEP key, Fuze froze (I know because the screen is non-responsive, back button remains lighted after I move my finger away, and the clock on screen is not advancing). Took out battery to turn off.
Case 5: Replaced the modules and zImage files to the new ones you sent me (12/31/2010)... booted up android, went to settings to set up wifi, entered WEP key, shows connected, Fuze froze (I know because the screen is non-responsive, back button remains lighted after I move my finger away, and the clock on screen is not advancing).
Seems my Fuze is locking up soon after Android boot. Tried numerous times... left alone, freeze. Tried calling, freeze. It seems to be time based. So close...
Strange, though, as the phone remains warm to the touch despite being frozen for some time.
Yeah, you lost me at partitioning your device as I don't even touch that stuff. I think you are using something different. Sorry but I can not help you, my friend!
Thanks anyway... the partitioning is just to make the partition "different". Probably no relevance unless it allowed me to exclude some bad sectors from use. As far as Froyo, I guess there is some kind of HW or SW problem with my phone. I may reflash my Fuze to another WM ROM - just to clean it up and isolate SW as the problem.
Let me clarify, I don't partition my microSD because XDAndroid builds simply do not require this. There are Neopeek variants that require partitioning of the microSD but I still think your method is slightly over exaggerated. I'm not sure why but I guess for some reason there may be an issue with your microSD and partitioning may be a way around this issue but I don't know enough about partitioning microSD/non-volatile flash. So, I couldn't say for sure...
Ok, so I installed Tael ROM (WM 6.5) then tried installing, it still freezes after 1-2 min of booting up (or during boot up). So it looks like it's a hardware (phone or microSD) issue for some reason. I guess hardware vs thinking kernel because the 2.1 installs also do not work.
On another note, it seems that the Android boot process corrupts my other files... I have folders for GPS and photo (DCIM) and it "corrects" those errors and kills my files.
Hmmm... I can't say for certain as I've never experienced that issue. All of my files remain intact before and after booting into Android and rebooting into winmo. Are you talking about the files on your phone or microSD. If you are talking about your microSD, you might be experiencing the hardware issue and the while you boot into Android, it is only attempting to "fix" these issues and in the process, kills the files contained with-in. Does this makes any sense?
Yes, the files are those I mentioned are in my microSD. So, yes, looks like some kind of interface issue causing Android to think the files are corrupt and then try to "fix" them. Strange though that WM does not try to fix the "errors".
I think it's kind of like the linux way to make sure there won't be any issues when you run the OS, since Android would run off the microSD and not from the phones storage. Currently, there is some development for this called NAND. Still really nothing solid as to whether it will work or not but always good to know, I guess?
Well, the thing is those files are pictures/videos/GPS maps... so I think WM is able to read them (so not an error) yet Android does during its pre-boot scan. Anyway, since upon successful scan and android actually loads, it would freeze in 1-2 min, so the problem may not be limited to the microSD. Yeah, perhaps the NAND will work better. I did get Warm Donut to run on my old Tilt, so I am still hopeful.
The issue that is stumping me is that I'm not experiencing the same issues you are with XDAndroid and I'm not sure how else to help aside from using another microSD to confirm an issue with your current microSD.. sorry
Hello all!
<Story>
I recently noticed that I was receiving a ton of Force Close messages on my HD2 and decided to restart the device (which I hadn't done in a while:laugh. When the device started back up, I realized the apps that were reported to have force closed, hadn't actually crashed.
Then I noticed that K9 mail was going crazy, showing the "updating" notification every half second on each account. When I decided to read my mail, it seemed as if they were all from the previous day, showing up as unread! Then I went to open the new version of Firefox, which I had just read about and installed ... but it was nowhere to be found.
Since I was sitting next to my computer at the time, I quickly looked up some stuff on xda and saw people were recommending CatLog, which I immediately installed. Upon attempting to open the application, I was met by a barrage of force closes including system and Trebuchet.
Panicking, I pulled the battery, cleared the Dalvik cache and fixed permissions, which unusually, completed instantaneously. I attempted to reinstall Amarullz's a2sd script but after copying it from my computer to the SD and booting to Recovery, I never saw the file I was looking for. Trying this process a couple more times, I honestly questioned my sanity but then speculated senility ... I DID just copy that file, didn't I?
</Story>
Apologies for making you read that, but I pushed the problem aside and used my phone for two more days (it was painful) before finally writing this.
EDIT: RELEVANT STUFF BELOW, STORY ABOVE
I did some testing and it seems like my SD card is somehow bugged but nothing really confirms it, diskcheck says everything is fine. Windows explorer doesn't complain while copying. And files that are copied DO work until the card is ejected, at which point it reverts back to the prior state :/
EDIT 2:
downloaded TeraCopy and verified my copied data (see screenshots)
Funny thing is that the data copied is NOT the same - the checksum indicates corruption, but when I tried it again, the checksums were the same! When I open the video files, music I had copied onto the card a week earlier began playing!
Is this thing read-only? The card is not full, neither is it a fake.
Formatting the card in Windows 7 causes a "windows was unable to complete the format" error when 2/3 complete (not quick format)
Even though it seems that it was mostly formatted, the data is still intact. Quite odd.
microSD Card Details:
Manufacturer: Apacer
Size: 16GB
Partitions: 2: FAT32 and ext3
TL;DR: ???Read-only??? microSD card but not sure: no errors while writing data, no errors reported by diskcheck, no corrupt data.
Same thing happened last week
I had the same thing last week with a 16GB SanDisk in my Nexus One running CM7.2. It started with a couple of force closes, then after a reboot just about every application (over 100 on sd-ext with S2E) force closed and the system became unusable. Tried various things and eventually found out that I could write to the card without any error, the files seemed to be there but were gone when I reinserted the card. Even deleting a partition from gparted on Linux showed no error but the partition was still there. The card is 18 months old, I sent it in under warranty.
This is a strange one for me. Stumped. Been working on it all night, no improvement. New one for me, long-ish description (with detail), but a TL;DR too.
Last night I applied the 1.3 OTA for the K1. Being my K1 was rooted, I followed the process I have always followed by restoring the system images to stock, applying the OTA via recovery, then re-rooting. Process:
Shutdown tablet
Swap married/paired SD card with temp SD containing flashables (OTA, SuperSU)
Boot to bootloader, fastboot (re)flash tablet's current system images (recovery was already stock but flashed again for good measure, boot, system, blob -> staging)
Boot to custom recovery using fastboot boot -recovery image-
Flash OTA from temp SD, wipe caches, apply SuperSU
Shutdown, replace married SD, boot, enjoy life
This time I didn't immediately apply SuperSU, as I thought I'd flash 1.3 and let it go fully stock a bit to ensure no other updates were pending (nVidia seems to like incremental updates, so flashing to 1.1 won't give you an OTA to 1.3 directly, but to 1.2 first, then 1.3). I've also followed this process with the K1 for every update since 1.1 without a hitch, and although there haven't been many OTAs, it has still worked perfectly every time. Because of this and because I've done this a billion times on a million different devices with zero issues ever, I didn't take a backup before the update. Woe is me.
When I rebooted this time after flashing the OTA (no root), it booted up seemingly fine to the "Android is upgrading" modal, so I left the tablet alone for a bit to let it do its thing. When I came back, the tablet was HOT, was at a completely black screen save for the status bar (no wallpaper/launcher besides the clock/wifi icon which showed a connection, that's it). I tried to interact with it and couldn't (totally locked up, also a first), then it rebooted on its own. Subsequent times, during troubleshooting, I noticed that it's totally locked -- NOTHING responds, unless you can get to it before it reboots and hold power to kill it.
First thought was a bad flash. NBD, so went back and reflashed, double-checking everything and carefully following the same process. No dice. I did use a newer TWRP recovery from April of this year initially, which was a recommended version for the K1 specifically, rather than a really buggy but working one from last year. To test I did I try using the older TWRP on one of the next flashes thinking maybe the new one borked the partitions, or at least wasn't writing the partitions/symlinks properly (and the older one was the TWRP I had used for previous updates, with no issues). But, no change..
It took me a long time and many reflashes and cache formatting and digging before I realized if I pulled the married SD out, it booted just fine. Weird, and gets weirder. After leaving the married SD out and booting, and having the tablet working just as expected (except for missing the SD), Android shows a notification saying to reinsert the married SD. Once the married SD is reinserted, things seem OK for a few seconds before the whole system goes unresponsive again, heats up, and begins bootlooping. Before it sh'ts the bed, the message on the status notification asking to reinsert the married SD card doesn't change, but in the Storage settings, it shows it's "checking" the card, followed by a sudden hot death spiral into non-function. If you select the SD from Storage settings to take a look around its contents, the tablet basically locks up instantly. Inserting other SDs works fine (for the most part, still some other weirdness), it's just the married SD that totally kills the device without fail.
Obviously I'd like to avoid wiping and reinstalling the whole thing if it can be avoided, not just because my dumb ass didn't take a backup so I'd lose a ton of app/game data, but also because it's a just huge pain. A lot of the sites that offered "fixes" for these types of problems say to just wipe data, which is not a solution and is the nuclear option (like telling someone to to replace a car due to a flat tire).
Ideas? Is this as simple as recreating some symlinks that somehow disappeared and refuse to come back after all the flashes, and if so, how? I've been looking for hours and haven't found anyone with this particular issue or steps to correct.
[size=+2]TL;DR[/size]: Applied K1 1.3 OTA, married/paired SD card is no longer recognized, causes tablet to hard-lock and enter bootloop when inserted (other SDs do not cause this issue).
Other potentially pertinent bits:
Initial flash was dirty, second and subsequent flashes included a wipe of system first
Installed 1.2 images first, then tried going back to 1.1.1 and taking nVidia's OTAs to get back up to 1.3
1.1.1 does not recognize the married SD but doesn't kill the tablet, while 1.2 and 1.3 kill the tablet when the SD is inserted
When married SD is not inserted, using shell or ES Explorer or otherwise, not seeing a /storage/emulated/0, or /sdcard, or /data/media, or any other familiar storage related directories
When married SD is inserted, it dies too fast to look around much or try to do anything to check/fix the SD itself
/storage is totally empty except for a folder called "self", and inserting a working SD creates a directory under /storage labeled with the SD's serial number (not an emulated/0 directory or anything similar)
Not sure if this is expected behavior since the SD was married -- do those directories/symlinks live on the SD now since it's married, and won't show up in the device filesystem until everything's properly mounted?
Tried following these steps, which although written in the N5 forum, still seemed relevant.. no change
Tried the referenced SD permissions update with the card inserted and not, in case of the directories it touches only being visible/available with the card inserted, no change
Noticed even within TWRP, going to the "mount" menu seemed flaky, labored, and didn't show what I expected, but this could be because there isn't a "proper" or official custom recovery for the K1 yet and things are just buggy
ES File Manager still seems to think an /sdcard directory exists and tries to open to it, and just spins in an open directory.. as expected
Going to /data in ES File Manager shows me an empty directory with a message stating the SD card is missing
Using a working, freshly formatted SD in the tablet and trying to point Titanium to a directory on the SD gives me messages about the directory being unwritable, no matter where I go on the SD
Titanium's app permissions (including r/w storage) are proper, SD is not write protected (freshly formatted on the tablet)
Tried using SDFix, which also gave me an error re: "platform permission file is invalid"
There's probably more I'm missing, but can't remember it all -- I have tried everything, I feel like, and have been at it for 13 hours now (apologies if this is written spotty, fighting to keep my eyes open).
So is it totally hosed, or is this recoverable? Is there a way to fix the tablet to recognize the SD, or fix the SD itself if that's the issue (but I'd wonder how it got corrupted in the first place, since it has only been removed once fully powered down)? Is there at least a way to check the married SD for corruption or issues?
Thoughts?
EDIT: Formatting
You removed the sdcard that was set as internal storage? Well you probably broke it/the data on it because that's not what you should do at all
GtrCraft said:
You removed the sdcard that was set as internal storage? Well you probably broke it/the data on it because that's not what you should do at all
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And why is that? When the OS is running, sure, you can't. It'd be equivalent to just deleting /data while the OS was running. It seems pretty unlikely that removing and reinserting it while it's powered off, though, would make it suddenly unable to read the SD or forget its pairing. Adopted storage is "married" to the device via a generated encryption key, which is stored on the device's internal storage. It's all handled in software, not like the SD fuses itself to the device Removing the SD (while off) would not (and does not) break this pairing method, unless the internal storage or SD decides to spontaneously erase itself while the device was off.
The process outlined is the recommended process for upgrading rooted devices with adopted storage. I've followed this process on multiple tablets/phones with adopted storage with zero issues, including this one several times, like I mentioned.
If it WERE the case that simply removing it (again, while off) made it forget the SD, I could understand the tablet reading the card and saying "nope not going to accept it, you done f'd up" and spitting out a dialog telling me to format it or whatnot.. lesson learned, if that were the case. However it's completely hard-locking the device (again, NOTHING works, no physical buttons, screen is unresponsive, only holding power to kill it works) when it's just reading the SD, and apparently pinning the CPU when doing so (hence the absurd heat)..? It's not just a matter of the tablet forgetting the SD
grivad said:
When the OS is running, sure. Maybe that is the case, but it seems pretty unlikely that removing and reinserting it while it's powered off would make it spontaneously unable to read the SD or forget its pairing.
This is the recommended process for upgrading rooted devices with adopted storage. I've followed this process on multiple tablets/phones with adopted storage with zero issues, including this one several times, like I mentioned.
If it WERE the case that simply removing it (again, while off) made it forget the SD, I could understand the tablet reading the card and saying "nope not going to accept it, you done f'd up" and spitting out a dialog telling me to format it or whatnot.. lesson learned, if that were the case. However it's completely hard-locking the device (again, NOTHING works, no physical buttons, screen is unresponsive, only holding power to kill it works) when it's just reading the SD, and apparently pinning the CPU when doing so (hence the absurd heat)..? It's not just a matter of the tablet forgetting the SD
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Still, you better off formatting it
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Been running adopted storage in my mxpe since mm was released and have never removed the card to flash.
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lafester said:
Been running adopted storage in my mxpe since mm was released and have never removed the card to flash.
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Cool.
Regarding the YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT belief (which is categorically false), if this were a serious issue like people speculate it is, Android would simply not ALLOW you to remove it. Meaning if it was ever detected as being removed or missing, first time, Android would tell you "too bad, now it's unpaired", and would also make it REEEEALLY clear not to remove it at all, ever, during the pairing process, which it does not. Nor would it let you eject adopted storage, which you can, safely. Like I mentioned above, when booting without the SD present, the system runs fine and has a persistent notification asking you to reinsert the paired SD, and begins to check the SD as soon as it's inserted so it can be remounted. If you select the notification before putting the SD back in, it takes you to a panel explaining how the SD has all your apps, so you really should put it back in, or you can choose to "forget" the SD and you're back to square one. If you REALLY weren't supposed to remove the SD EVER, none of this would exist.
Additionally, pretty much every piece of documentation around adoptable storage says it can be removed just fine (but is only readable/usable by the device it was paired to), but the system kinda needs it to, you know, run all the apps you put on the thing, and will persistently remind you to reinsert it, unless you choose to break the adoption. So there's that.
Storage adoption isn't this magical, complicated thing. It mounts certain directories to your SD instead of internal storage (e.g., /storage/emulated), generates a key, then encrypts the card to prevent it from being read outside of the device it was paired with. That's really pretty much all there is to it. None of those things necessitate a or even imply that removal of an adopted SD would lead to sudden disaster. That's like believing if you take your hard drive out of your computer, but then plug it right back in, that it's going to be unbootable and dead. Doesn't work that way.
I appreciate you guys trying to help, but the problem is not simply that I removed the SD so now it's broken.
The thing that should get your attention is that when the SD is inserted, it begins to scan the SD and subsequently HARD-LOCKS. And PEGS THE CPU. Also that I cannot write to a working SD with Titanium. These things are pretty abnormal for Android devices, to say the least. There is something else going on here besides "You took the SD out and you weren't supposed to."
grivad said:
Cool.
Regarding the DON'T REMOVE IT belief, if this were an issue like people speculate it is, Android would simply not ALLOW you to remove it. Meaning if it was ever detected as being removed or missing, first time, Android would tell you "too bad, now it's unpaired", and would also make it REEEEALLY clear not to remove it at all, ever, during the pairing process, which it does not. Nor would it let you eject adopted storage, which you can, safely. Like I mentioned above, when booting without the SD present, the system runs fine and has a persistent notification asking you to reinsert the paired SD, and begins to check the SD as soon as it's inserted so it can be remounted. If you select the notification before putting the SD back in, it takes you to a panel explaining how the SD has all your apps, so you really should put it back in, or you can choose to "forget" the SD and you're back to square one. If you REALLY weren't supposed to remove the SD EVER, none of this would exist.
Additionally, pretty much every piece of documentation around adoptable storage says it can be removed just fine (but is only readable/usable by the device it was paired to), but the system kinda needs it to, you know, run all the apps you put on the thing, and will persistently remind you to reinsert it, unless you choose to break the adoption. So there's that.
Storage adoption isn't this magical, complicated thing. It mounts certain directories to your SD instead of internal storage (e.g., /storage/emulated), generates a key, then encrypts the card to prevent it from being read outside of the device it was paired with. That's really pretty much all there is to it. None of those things necessitate a or even imply that removal of an adopted SD would lead to sudden disaster. That's like believing if you take your hard drive out of your computer, but then plug it right back in, that it's going to be unbootable and dead. Doesn't work that way.
I appreciate you guys trying to help, but the problem is not simply that I removed the SD so now it's broken.
The thing that should get your attention is that when the SD is inserted, it begins to scan the SD and subsequently HARD-LOCKS. And PEGS THE CPU. Both of those things are pretty abnormal for Android devices, to say the least. There is something else going on here besides "You took the SD out and you weren't supposed to."
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Well you tried with another sd and there is no problem. So the cause of the freezing problem is your sd.
But be my guest and find another solution. I just gave an answer to your question and a solution for the problem. If you don't believe that then you shouldn't ask it in the first place
GtrCraft said:
Well you tried with another sd and there is no problem. So the cause of the freezing problem is your sd.
But be my guest and find another solution. I just gave an answer to your question and a solution for the problem. If you don't believe that then you shouldn't ask it in the first place
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It's not that I don't believe the solution, I don't believe the premise because it is provably false There is absolutely nothing unsafe about ejecting adopted storage, which is why the OS lets you do it, even while it's running and using the storage. Even less of a risk if the thing is off. The "solution" offered wasn't much of a solution, and in the OP it was stated that I wasn't looking for that answer (already know that's an option, which is why I mentioned in the OP).
I appreciate you trying to help, but simply saying "format it", again, is the nuclear option. Not what I'm looking for. Either information as to what's happening (if anyone else has dealt with this) with a justification as to why it's irrepairable, or things to try based on the information I gave. Spending a lot of time being thorough just to get a "format it" response, to be frank, isn't very helpful It's like telling someone to reinstall their entire OS because they can't figure out how to install a driver, or to raze their house because a painting fell off the wall.
The SD didn't spontaneously corrupt itself in the 5 mins it was out of the device. No gamma bursts or EM storms in my area that I know of, either Because the only thing that changed was installing the OTA, this really seems to be a software problem (albeit a bit bizarre, to me) so it should be fixable via software. The fact it's pegging the CPU when the SD is inserted makes me wonder if it's getting stuck in a loop, maybe due to partition changes (looking for a file or partition it can't find). If that's the case, again, that should be fixable via software, with instruction from someone knowledgeable on how the Android FS and mounts work.
Again thanks for trying to help. I know formatting is an option (the easiest one), but I'm looking for just that -- options.
You did update the firmware with the sd out, nothing to do with lightning or gamma bursts.
Did you try downgrading firmware back to where it was?
lafester said:
You did update the firmware with the sd out, nothing to do with lightning or gamma bursts.
Did you try downgrading firmware back to where it was?
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True, the SD was out, however this is how I've both read to do it in multiple places, and how I've applied every OTA so far without issue (with the same adopted SD every time). As part of my troubleshooting, I did try flashing the OTA with the adopted SD inserted, though. It didn't make a difference.
I did try downgrading.. When I started the tablet was on 1.2, OTAd to 1.3. Every time I'd reflash I would do so to 1.2. I did try flashing down to 1.1.1 (the "recovery OS image") and OTAing back up, and like I mentioned that allowed me to use the device with the SD inserted, but it wouldn't recognize it as the adopted storage.. just kinda did nothing, as if the card wasn't inserted at all. This happened in 1.2 as well (OTAd from 1.1.1), and once it got up to 1.3 from 1.2 it all started all over again.
I'm creating an image of the SD right now (using dd) to try restoring it to another SD. I've read that doing this preserves the pairing information, so if it's a bad SD, this would hopefully fix it. I also wanted to try flashing directly to 1.3, but the images aren't available yet Only 1.2 and 1.1.1..
Honestly I would divorce the card before update then redo it after this whole method is janky anyway no reason to remap the data links like they do and all it would be required is if app devs were forced to comply with a data space method... The feature of installing to SD card should be available to non married storage.
Old thread, haven't been on in a while, but thought I'd post an update.
The problem ended up being a hardware issue. I contacted nVidia after absolutely nothing I tried resolved the issue (different SDs, different OS versions, different process to set up, etc.). I simply explained the problems I was having and my troubleshooting attempts, asked if it was a known issue or if they had any suggestions, and they immediately responded with RMA info, no questions asked. The replacement turnaround time was very fast (within a week IIRC), and the new K1 has had zero issues.