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Getting Involved with the Root Effort

There's a solid chance this is a stupid question, in which case feel free to ignore me entirely. I recently picked up a One X, and am crazy in love with the device. My only niggling issue is that all the new One X's at my local store are already at 2.20. And I am sad.
I've been doing a bit of Googling, and would like to at least attempt to learn a bit more about Android and what goes into trying to find a root process for this bad boy. I have little Android experience (user experience rooting my Captivate and the girlfriend's Galaxy S3 and flashing ROMs... so nothing likely pertinent to finding a loophole). And I have a ton of Linux experience (working as a sysadmin, though not 100% sure it'd beneficial to this, but I'm hoping).
Anyways, long post short, I was wondering if anyone here could help point me in the directions of some resources and/or things I could be doing/reading to learn what goes into the whole process and, possibly, so that I could help dedicate what little talents I have into helping out. Again, I know I have little to no Android experience, but I've tinkered with every device I own, and would like to at least try.

cupps said:
There's a solid chance this is a stupid question, in which case feel free to ignore me entirely. I recently picked up a One X, and am crazy in love with the device. My only niggling issue is that all the new One X's at my local store are already at 2.20. And I am sad.
I've been doing a bit of Googling, and would like to at least attempt to learn a bit more about Android and what goes into trying to find a root process for this bad boy. I have little Android experience (user experience rooting my Captivate and the girlfriend's Galaxy S3 and flashing ROMs... so nothing likely pertinent to finding a loophole). And I have a ton of Linux experience (working as a sysadmin, though not 100% sure it'd beneficial to this, but I'm hoping).
Anyways, long post short, I was wondering if anyone here could help point me in the directions of some resources and/or things I could be doing/reading to learn what goes into the whole process and, possibly, so that I could help dedicate what little talents I have into helping out. Again, I know I have little to no Android experience, but I've tinkered with every device I own, and would like to at least try.
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finding root is all about finding exploits in the write protection of the file system and injecting the su binary into /system
since you are experienced in linux you're in good shape. You may want to PM beaups and see what he's tried and bounce some ideas around we also have a root think tank thread in General. Welcome to the Cause!

The cause:beer:

[Q] Checked and didn;t see anything like this

Can someone with good experiance, possible write up a 'doc', or start a thread on what n00bs can or maybe should do with various things once they for instance root them etc.? (In this instance for the gt-p5113 specifically, if you would.) sure it will be opinion, etc. but for instance I just rooted my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 gt-p5113 (by the excellent docs here btw, I think they worked flawlessly.) But I just do not know what to do next.....it is freshly rooted.
and by next I do not mean things to use and do WITH it....I know somewhat some of the things I want to do there, but for instance making a backup...probably a good idea, but I do not really know the best way to go about it....or installing super user...it was mentioned, but I have no clue really how, or if they were talking about another device or needing to or not. or installing a firewall or some other type of protection. I don;t know...I guess I am expecting someone to do some thinking for me, and maybe that isn;t always the best thing to do, but it'd sure help me thats for sure, because I'm sorta weary at this point and not yet comfortable messing with it, sorta and could use some verification/validation of thinking with less of the fear of bricking my tech. I literally just rooted it like 5 minutes ago.

RS-232D said:
Can someone with good experiance, possible write up a 'doc', or start a thread on what n00bs can or maybe should do with various things once they for instance root them etc.? (In this instance for the gt-p5113 specifically, if you would.) sure it will be opinion, etc. but for instance I just rooted my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 gt-p5113 (by the excellent docs here btw, I think they worked flawlessly.) But I just do not know what to do next.....it is freshly rooted.
and by next I do not mean things to use and do WITH it....I know somewhat some of the things I want to do there, but for instance making a backup...probably a good idea, but I do not really know the best way to go about it....or installing super user...it was mentioned, but I have no clue really how, or if they were talking about another device or needing to or not. or installing a firewall or some other type of protection. I don;t know...I guess I am expecting someone to do some thinking for me, and maybe that isn;t always the best thing to do, but it'd sure help me thats for sure, because I'm sorta weary at this point and not yet comfortable messing with it, sorta and could use some verification/validation of thinking with less of the fear of bricking my tech. I literally just rooted it like 5 minutes ago.
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Did the root method install a custom recovery?

RS-232D said:
I literally just rooted it like 5 minutes ago.
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It will take a little more than 5 minutes to do your research.
My experience over the years has taught me that doing your own research is far more rewarding than having someone else do it for you and hand everything to you on a plate.
You can take it at your own pace, and you will get a far more rewarding experience of your tech if you put the effort in. Not only will you learn more, but you will discover other things as you search for the answers. This is truly mind expanding stuff, but it requires effort.
And that's the point of Android I find - if you don't want to make the effort and you want someone to do everything for you then buy a product from Apple. They are the masters at making things easy...as long as you are prepared to do things their way, and not expect too much from your device.
Android is flexible and configurable, but that means thinking, exploring and discovering things yourself.
If you're not comfortable then don't do anything. Read, read and read some more until you get comfortable - then act. That is the safest way to avoid problems as well as rewarding you with knowledge and understanding.
Good luck in your quest.

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Did the root method install a custom recovery?
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Uhm.....uhm......I am not thinking so.....I used a method which used Odin....I started in I think recovery mode, by holding power and volume up, then switched to volume down, and selected a recovery file that I had put on my Sdram card, it did it's thing, and now I notice I have super user capability. I then installed supersu and quickboot . And that is where I am at. Pretty much.
Mr.Anderson....ya.....I hear you, and have run with the rtfm crowd enough to grasp the concept..... but perhaps that is why the other guy after joining Iin 2012, has a thank you meter of 16 and you have one of 6 after joining 4 years ago? I am not trying to really skip the 10 billion posts of reading time exactly, or learning on my own. What I am trying to do is avoid problems I might from more experianced people who wish to share, after looking and not finding a specific post that I am sure is up to date, thag answers the issue. Frankly, I'd like for there to be a sticky on it specifically for this model. I''ll write one myself and submit it once I know enough to do it probably......but I promise, if you do not wish to help me, I won't think any less of you, or blame you. I am sure you have gained all your knowledge and earned it on your own, or if not, on this subject specifically, it wasn't any help from me, so neither you nor anyone else owe me anything.

RS-232D said:
Uhm.....uhm......I am not thinking so.....I used a method which used Odin....I started in I think recovery mode, by holding power and volume up, then switched to volume down, and selected a recovery file that I had put on my Sdram card, it did it's thing, and now I notice I have super user capability. I then installed supersu and quickboot . And that is where I am at. Pretty much.
Mr.Anderson....ya.....I hear you, and have run with the rtfm crowd enough to grasp the concept..... but perhaps that is why the other guy after joining Iin 2012, has a thank you meter of 16 and you have one of 6 after joining 4 years ago? I am not trying to really skip the 10 billion posts of reading time exactly, or learning on my own. What I am trying to do is avoid problems I might from more experianced people who wish to share, after looking and not finding a specific post that I am sure is up to date, thag answers the issue. Frankly, I'd like for there to be a sticky on it specifically for this model. I''ll write one myself and submit it once I know enough to do it probably......but I promise, if you do not wish to help me, I won't think any less of you, or blame you. I am sure you have gained all your knowledge and earned it on your own, or if not, on this subject specifically, it wasn't any help from me, so neither you nor anyone else owe me anything.
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Ok, go in to recovery mode volume up+power and see what it loads, if it is cwm, then you can select backup, I backup to my extsd because it takes up a lot of space on internal sd, then reboot. If not, then search for install cwm on the forum. I can explain later, but am on vacation visiting the parents, so I can't guarantee how timely my response will be.

[Q] In way over my head regarding a Android stick (Mk809III)

Hi guys
First of all, I am not a programmer.. Not even very tech savyy, so if "ordinary" people isn't allowed to ask around here, I apologize. I would also like to mention that english isn't my primary language, so also please forgive me for my bad english.
My problem is that I am in wayyy over my head. I bought an android (hdmi)stick over Ebay and actually kind of expected it to be plug and play. After a bit of playing around and reading up on it I realize that this is far from the case.
The item is an Azurill MK809III
I have the following problems:
When I am trying to use apps that requires a rooted device, they say it isn't rooted. When trying to use apps that doesn't allow rooted devices, the app says it is. I am quite convinced that it is, but I don't know why various apps (also apps which only purpose is to check for root) says it isn't. I would, solely for that reason like to find another (still mediacenter-friendly) rom.
I also find the movies kind of choppy. According to various posts on the internet, it's because of a problem in the way the stock "kernel" handles things. I've read various recommendations of which alternative kernel that should be used. I don't know if another rom will solve this problem also?
The problem is that it's a JUNGLE out there. I honestly don't know how to flash a rom, and when reading up on it it seems VERY complicated. I know from earlier escapades that tech-things often look more complicated in writing, but what worries me the most is that all the guides that I found includes some kind of code.. Is that Linux? And does that mean that I need to have a computer running Linux to do this?
I am a totally virgin when it comes to tampering with things on this level.. I honestly thought it would be a nice "out of the box" alternative to a Chromecast, but boy was I wrong.
Can anyone save me? Either by guiding me through the whole process or maybe just tell me if this is possible without Linux and pointing me in the right direction(s)? I fell over something called "Rockchip Batch tool", but I don't know if that can be used for the process or only to flash back to the stock rom (or maybe I totally misunderstood what its for)
I am of course kind of afraid of breaking my device, so I don't dare to start following some guide on my own initiative, unless someone assured me that it is the right thing to do.
Thank you in advance.. :fingers-crossed:
Christina

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[Q] Lollipop? Is anyone looking to develop a custom Rom for the Xoom?

I know our Xoom is getting a bit long in the tooth, but it still is one of the finest equipped pieces of hardware out there. I've been using the Omnirom 4.4.4 iteration for many months now, and love it.
How many tablets can you name that have external sdcard,HDMI, and USB capability besides the normative features most tablets have.
I think the Xoom might just might have a very good future with the next iteration of Android, Lollipop. I'd love to be able to
work on this, but if I did it, I'd have to find someone who would loan me a Xoom they have laying around unused for an extended period of time.
I don't know, but the more I think of it the more excited I become.

That's not how it works...... You are a user not a developer.... I will see what can be done when sources come out but no this is a scam! Why get a Xoom if you already have one? From a account with no rom threads started

Cameron581 said:
That's not how it works...... You are a user not a developer.... I will see what can be done when sources come out but no this is a scam! Why get a Xoom if you already have one? From a account with no rom threads started
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Wasn't a scam Cameron. I have 1 Xoom that is my primary computing device with anything having to do with mobile devices. I will not have it's useability compromised.
By the way, long ago I wrote code for the Atari ST, STacy and Falcon. In the last few hours I have been able to get a second Xoom from a friend locally (he's not using it, and thought it was bricked-It wasn't, just needed help-I've got working) once I get my friend's Xoom up to speed and brush up on my coding skills I should be able to help.
Honestly, I'm 74 years old and just tired and busy enough that I'd rather not take away from my limited time to become a developer again. At this time I'd like to just be a user and return my friend's fully working Xoom to him
Cameron, It seemed like most of the developers had just gone into hiding and I was hoping to generate interest from the community..
You don't know me, or really know much about me. If you did, you'd know that I wasn't attempting to scam anyone. In fact, saying that my goal was to scam is almost criminal and libelous, but I'm not one to easily take take offense.
Just please don't do a rush to judgement again. Once you make such statements they aren't easily retracted.
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Your friend,
Rob

Kingsman1 said:
Wasn't a scam Cameron. I have 1 Xoom that is my primary computing device with anything having to do with mobile devices. I will not have it's useability compromised.
By the way, long ago I wrote code for the Atari ST, STacy and Falcon. In the last few hours I have been able to get a second Xoom from a friend locally (he's not using it, and thought it was bricked-It wasn't, just needed help-I've got working) once I get my friend's Xoom up to speed and brush up on my coding skills I should be able to help.
Honestly, I'm 74 years old and just tired and busy enough that I'd rather not take away from my limited time to become a developer again. At this time I'd like to just be a user and return my friend's fully working Xoom to him
Cameron, It seemed like most of the developers had just gone into hiding and I was hoping to generate interest from the community..
You don't know me, or really know much about me. If you did, you'd know that I wasn't attempting to scam anyone. In fact, saying that my goal was to scam is almost criminal and libelous, but I'm not one to easily take take offense.
Just please don't do a rush to judgement again. Once you make such statements they aren't easily retracted.
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Your friend,
Rob
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I am simply a "user" also but I can attest to the fact that I have seen numerous posts from Kingsman1 in other Xoom forums and he is always there to help others with questions or problems they are having with their tablet.

brewer75 said:
I am simply a "user" also but I can attest to the fact that I have seen numerous posts from Kingsman1 in other Xoom forums and he is always there to help others with questions or problems they are having with their tablet.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. The Lollipop Software Development Kit (SDK) is out there. I think that I'm going to hide and watch(though I am available at any time) as far as development is concerned. There are many of us who need help, including me from time to time. I'll go back to helping when I can.
Blessings to all,
Rob

Kingsman1 said:
Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. The Lollipop Software Development Kit (SDK) is out there. I think that I'm going to hide and watch(though I am available at any time) as far as development is concerned. There are many of us who need help, including me from time to time. I'll go back to helping when I can.
Blessings to all,
Rob
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And add another vote from me - I have seen and read many a helpful Kingsman post in these forums - I wish I had some sort of useful skills other than flashing other peoples hard work or I would help - hope this generates the desired response from some other motivated developers - best of luck Sir Rob -

me also
have been running CM11 nighties for some time now but also think it would be cool to see some lollipop love for our xoom.

Yes please !
Chadwick108 said:
have been running CM11 nighties for some time now but also think it would be cool to see some lollipop love for our xoom.
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4.4.4 is da best !
Until 5 comes out

Inspirational !
Kingsman1 said:
I know our Xoom is getting a bit long in the tooth, but it still is one of the finest equipped pieces of hardware out there. I've been using the Omnirom 4.4.4 iteration for many months now, and love it.
How many tablets can you name that have external sdcard,HDMI, and USB capability besides the normative features most tablets have.
I think the Xoom might just might have a very good future with the next iteration of Android, Lollipop. I'd love to be able to
work on this, but if I did it, I'd have to find someone who would loan me a Xoom they have laying around unused for an extended period of time.
I don't know, but the more I think of it the more excited I become.
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Since being on IOS since 2011 I haven't used this account ; I got on here to say thank you; you are an inspiration for the ages. As our knowledge and experience becomes "mature" it's good to see that young or wise by years; we can all work together.

By the way,
I do have a second Xoom of my own not, and am running Omnirom 5.1.1 Alpha on it. At the moment, I'm looking to see what it can, and can't do. I hope to be able to help Schischu develop this into a stable, and very complete Rom now. Even so, this alpha is very polished, fast, and smooth.
I think we're gonna love it.
Blessings,
Rob

eager newb seeking experienced android development veteran to learn from

hey, hopefully im posting this in the right section. im still pretty new to xda as well as the fascinating world of root access, custom recovery's and roms, and such so please let me know if this post is out of place and i apologize ahead of time if it is.
anyways, as for my original reason for posting to the forum, hi everybody ive somewhat recently discovered the possibilities of root access, custom roms and the like. not long ago i was in the market for a new device and came across an offerup post for a galaxy core prime SM-G360T1 (the metro pcs variant) at the price of $35 obo soo, personally never being the biggest samsung supporter i offered $20 n continued looking for another decent LG to hook up to my metro service. long story short they accepted my offer n deals like that shant b ignored so i purchased said core prime n spent the whole night searching through the xda forums to learn all i could.
soo, here i am now the proud owner of my first galaxy device, a rooted SM-G360T1 with a good working touch version of twrp (my preferred choice in custom recoveries) but, as ive come to discover only one very aptly named custom rom exists for this particular galaxy and though i completely respect its creator for all the time & effort he put into releasing the first working pre-rooted, de-bloated custom rom available for the SM-G360T1, i personally decided to stick with the stock rooted firmware and do the de-bloating and such myself.
ok sry about the mindless rambling there i may have gotten a bit carried away. now, as for my point in posting this in the first place. i wouldnt feel right asking others to solve my little issues for me so im not gunna try to pressure anybody into puttin out more roms for the metro core prime. instead, if at all possible i would merely like to meet someone more experienced and well-versed in the art of android development who might b interested in maybe taking me under their wing so that i might get the opportunity to learn the ways of the code and hopefully one day have all the knowledge necessary to develop my own custom roms, or maybe even eventually get myself a couple of apps that i can b proud of onto the play store.
to summarize, i am but a young aspiring software developer will very little knowlege of or experience with code, tho was raised on home built pcs my whole life so i know my way around a desktop pretty well hardware-wise as well as software-wise, im very willing and eager to learn, whilst having already developed through my previous experiences, a healthy fear of bricking yet another phone which has resulted in an increase in the frequency with which i backup my data, as well as a certain acquired hesitation toward attempting any uncertain actions without first doing the appropriate research on the given subject and im hoping to find someone willing to pass some of their vast knowledge down to me whom i can consider to b my teacher, professor, sensai, master, whichever u prefer, and whom i would never hesitate but to thank and give credit for any and all software that i may one day develop as a result of the lessons they had taught me :victory:
aaaanyways, this post turned out a lot longer than i anticipated so, if uve been able to stick it out and make it this far i am both sry for taking up so much of your time, as well as truly grateful to u for having taken said time to hear me out. well, have a wonderful day everybody and i hope to hear from my future sensai soon. until such time i shall b waiting paitiently thnx again for reading

oh and also just wanted to add that if anybody that knows what theyre doing happens to be in the midst of making/porting any new roms for the SM-G360T1 samsung galaxy core prime metro pcs version and needs any help with like testing or wutever let me know, i got a good twrp nandroid backup ready to b restored n just in case of an emergency i still got odin and the rooted kernel that i used to root it in the first place saved onto my pc