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Today's trend for mobile phones is as thinner, lighter as better. But in the other hand, CPU is getting more powerful and more power consuming so I would like to open a discussion I've been thinking for a longer time now. Also phone screens are getting bigger and bigger which is hell of a battery drain too. I currently use Galaxy S and Galaxy S III. Both phones can keep up with screens on up to 6-7 hours set up with about 20% of brigthness in cost of smaller dimensions. When I put masks on both phones, in dimensions it gets thicker for about 3-4 mm, but also it suits much better in my hand and it's much more comfortable. I won't discuss battery length and height because I actually don't know how much space is there left in whole phone, but if you are familiar with it, feel free to bring it up.
For me it would be better if they added at least 2-3 mm more thicker to get more battery capacity (I think they could reach at least 700 mAh more with 3-4mm more in thickness).
What about you? what is your opinion?
Lavoslav said:
Today's trend for mobile phones is as thinner, lighter as better. But in the other hand, CPU is getting more powerful For me it would be better if they added at least 2-3 mm more thicker to get more battery capacity (I think they could reach at least 700 mAh more with 3-4mm more in thickness).
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I have the same opinion.
Perhaps a new trend will start with the Lenovo P770. It has huge battery, 3500 mAh.
Ya that's what my idea too? RAM and processer are becoming more important.
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My idea for awhile has been a battery the same dimensions of the phone, or at least close. I would love it especially since I prefer heavy phones haha
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For Phone or for Computer? what do you whant? for phone size is small as well. for computer the display should be lager....
JamesChuang said:
For Phone or for Computer? what do you whant? for phone size is small as well. for computer the display should be lager....
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mi 2 is cool
since screens are getting bigger these days it means that batteries have grown wider/longer but not thicker. problem is that the bigger the screen, the more battery power is needed.
I think the s3 is a little too thin maybe j agrees with OP a few millimeters extra never hurt and if would improve battery life though I never had a problem with battery 40% battery life lasted me 4 hours with moderate usage
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I've always liked the protective-case/extended-battery combo that you can get for iPhone 4. They have it on Woot all the time.
It makes your phone 1/2" longer because the extended battery is built into the case.
If they made one for my phone (S3) I'd consider it. The S3 has it's microUSB jack on the bottom so it could work. As long as USB sync to PC could pass through this would be the optimum solution in my opinion.
got a 4500Mah battery for S3, don't mind the size increase better if you got bigger hand's... more to hold onto, the only situation where bigger is better lol.
I'm a big fan of choice. The way the S3 works with the replaceable battery, you can get an extended battery and new back to house it - no need to have a longer phone with battery connected by micro-usb.
The micro-usb work-around is for phones whose batteries are built-in and not easily replaceable/accessible.
I'm not sure about the idea of the battery taking up the whole back of the phone, I'd wonder how that would impact balance of the device. I think it's good how it is now with the weight in the lower-bottom area of the phone.
Choice, being able to find what suits for an individual. Personally, I'm happy with my phone being as "small" as it is and the battery almost always lasts through the day with how I use it - and since the battery is replaceable, I don't have to worry about babying it.
I prefer powerful battery
i really don't mind to have a little bit heavier phone for 2-3 hours
I think a heavier phone feels like it has a better build quality than these very thin plastic phones . Also a slightly thicker phone easier to hold tight in my opinion!
if we can solve the battery problem, everything will be better.
Hello all, I'd like some friendly advice before dumping a tho7sand bucks on this phone. I'm a heavy gps user and a very heavy phone user in general. I've been reading through the xda forums that there are huge memory leak issues, and problems with bad gps chips that have problems with location locks / finding satellites / dropped signals. I know that the edge+ won't be released until Friday, but I expect that the internals, gps chip, etc are mostly identical. Should I buy this phone or be very afraid of getting stuck with a lemon?
If you're a heavy user I'd be more concerned about the battery.
-- from my OnePlus 2
kinghu said:
If you're a heavy user I'd be more concerned about the battery.
-- from my OnePlus 2
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The battery has been upped to 3000. I know the screen is also bigger but hoping this will make a slight improvement.
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The battery has been upped to 3000. I know the screen is also bigger but hoping this will make a slight improvement.
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Yeah it'll be a bit better but having used navigation / 4G on my S6 and having it die after 2.5 hours, I'd be looking at something with a removable battery (G4) or even Note 4 if you're not gonna be around power. Can always take a portable charger of course but not ideal.
Note 4 + Zerolemon was a multi-day beast.
-- from my OnePlus 2
kinghu said:
If you're a heavy user I'd be more concerned about the battery.
-- from my OnePlus 2
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Yeah it'll be a bit better but having used navigation / 4G on my S6 and having it die after 2.5 hours, I'd be looking at something with a removable battery (G4) or even Note 4 if you're not gonna be around power. Can always take a portable charger of course but not ideal.
Note 4 + Zerolemon was a multi-day beast.
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I tried the G4 but returned 2 of them for missed taps /unresponsive touch screen. Wanted the edge+ due to larger screen. Really don't want to step back to a note 4.
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I tried the G4 but returned 2 of them for missed taps /unresponsive touch screen. Wanted the edge+ due to larger screen. Really don't want to step back to a note 4.
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Fair enough, if you've tried alternatives go for it.
-- from my OnePlus 2
Really curious as to how many edge users love their devices and do not have the GPS issue. If everyone out there is experiencing problems with the GPS chip, guess I'll stick with my trusty g3.
Absolutely not.
It may look beautiful but the device isn't worth the cost.
For your nickels and dimes the Note 4 is far better value.
This review has been up for a day and the author wisely disabled the comments for fear of an onslaught. His flame suit must have been at the cleaners...he has no concept that the V series is for power users and the G series is for casual iPhone and Samsung Galaxy S users.
Antonio Villas-Boas
http://www.businessinsider.com/lg-v...standard-for-premium-smartphones-these-days-4
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This review has been up for a day and the author wisely disabled the comments for fear of an onslaught. His flame suit must have been at the cleaners...he has no concept that the V series is for power users and the G series is for casual iPhone and Samsung Galaxy S users.
Antonio Villas-Boas
http://www.businessinsider.com/lg-v...standard-for-premium-smartphones-these-days-4
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One of the worst I seen I bet he barely tried to understand the device ,espeacially the camera.
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One of the worst I seen I bet he barely tried to understand the device ,espeacially the camera.
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That dude is an idiot. Especially with his legacy comments. He should have just stuck to his crappy sucky iPhone and been happy to be an iSheep
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pretty funny haha.. after the Note 7 everyone was wishing these phones had removeable batteries.. not to mention batteries can die..
also, the S5 had a removeable battery and water resistance and micro sd card lol so it pretty much nullifies all of his idiot comments
i think the design is great and feels great as well as with rear fingerprint i have my screen unlocked before phones even outta my pocket lol
I like removable battery because if the battery malfunction I can replace it. Where as the battery in a sealed unit like my HTC M7 one phone my battery pack swelled and I had a useless phone. Because no way I could replace the battery. So I would gladly give up waterproofing for this option to extend a phones life and useability.
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That piece most certainly looks like the guy was given the phone for 2-5 minutes and then told to fill column inches.
IF water proofing is this guys main concern with a phone he's got issues lol.
If LG came out with root or a program to remove unwanted software the phone would be perfect.
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I read that article yesterday also and really wanted to comment. I don't think all these reviewers realize not everyone is within arms reach of an electrical outlet 24-7. When I'm not working I'm on the lake or in the woods. I have yet to come across a charging station and usually my phone is working overtime through GPS tracking and trying to keep even the slightest cell signal. Ive went through 2 batteries in the woods before with the note 4.
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This review has been up for a day and the author wisely disabled the comments for fear of an onslaught. His flame suit must have been at the cleaners...he has no concept that the V series is for power users and the G series is for casual iPhone and Samsung Galaxy S users.
Antonio Villas-Boas
http://www.businessinsider.com/lg-v...standard-for-premium-smartphones-these-days-4
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I use a S7 Edge, I am certainly no casual user mate the very reason I went with it instead of a V20 is that the V20 has power user phone traits but not the battery for them.
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POLO_i780 said:
I use a S7 Edge, I am certainly no casual user mate the very reason I went with it instead of a V20 is that the V20 has power user phone traits but not the battery for them.
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I don't consider the S7 Edge and Note 7 to be a casual user phone. That being said I would rather have the ability to cycle various batteries, than use the same battery every day. These batteries are very inexpensive technologies now, and their capacities are bigger than ever. It seems there is no logical reason to limit the user to one battery given how thin LG have managed to produce a removable battery phone now. Well water resistance would be one reason but there are cases for that. Myself, when biking I use a sandwich sized zip lock bag.
Works great I keep my ability to swap batteries.
The reviewer is an idiot though, I hate these "reviewer's" who are not prepared to give another device a chance, to them every phone must be like an iPhone or Galaxy, and when that does happen they cry about copying.
He is complaining about what makes the phone unique, lol.
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POLO_i780 said:
I use a S7 Edge, I am certainly no casual user mate the very reason I went with it instead of a V20 is that the V20 has power user phone traits but not the battery for them.
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i can go 15+ hours with 6+ hours of SOT with the v20.. ive also owned an s7e, s7, and note 7 as well as the moto z force droid and verizon pixel.. all rooted except the v20 and moto z force droid and pixel and can say that even without root this v20 is well up there with battery comparison.. itd be even better if i had root, maybe 8+ hours SOT...
if you are actually using your phone with the screen on for more than 6-8 hours each day then the battery is sufficient
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i can go 15+ hours with 6+ hours of SOT with the v20.. ive also owned an s7e, s7, and note 7 as well as the moto z force droid and verizon pixel.. all rooted except the v20 and moto z force droid and pixel and can say that even without root this v20 is well up there with battery comparison.. itd be even better if i had root, maybe 8+ hours SOT...
if you are actually using your phone with the screen on for more than 6-8 hours each day then the battery is sufficient
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I am getting +8hours SOT with my S7E as I am typing this
No root.
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I am getting +8hours SOT with my S7E as I am typing this
No root.
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lol not saying its impossible.. actually saying the v20 can have just as good battery life.. keep in mind i watch a lot of videos and gaming on my device among other normal tasks, always installing new apps and trying things out with lwp, 3d/360 wallpapers etc.
i typically have 10+ apps running at any given time either downloading stuff or just not closing stuff out.. im sure i could squeeze 8+ hours sot if i wanted lol
This is why I have one of these if I am not near a plug. I can charge my phone most likely 6 times off it. Came in handy at Disney 2 weeks ago. Kept a s7 edge and 2 s7 active phones charged all day and the rest of the night till we left at 1 am charged for us
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lol not saying its impossible.. actually saying the v20 can have just as good battery life.. keep in mind i watch a lot of videos and gaming on my device among other normal tasks, always installing new apps and trying things out with lwp, 3d/360 wallpapers etc.
i typically have 10+ apps running at any given time either downloading stuff or just not closing stuff out.. im sure i could squeeze 8+ hours sot if i wanted lol
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Thats the thing, I am not squeezing it out with the S7E, this is only its 4th discharge since getting it on Tuesday, its comfortably going past 8hours with a lot of Social Media (Instagram, FB and Twitter usage), a bit of YouTube, playing music via BT in the car, Whatsapp and 3 email accs. (1 work, 2 personal).
I am a bit of a stickler when it comes to Battery Life, so I wanted the best I could get. The V20 is a beast, no denying it, the review this guy did actually did not it any justice, and whoever said it sounds like he had the phone for a few minutes is right, he did not even cover battery usage, or give a more thorough idea of what the phone is like to live with day to day.
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Dark Jedi said:
This is why I have one of these if I am not near a plug. I can charge my phone most likely 6 times off it. Came in handy at Disney 2 weeks ago. Kept a s7 edge and 2 s7 active phones charged all day and the rest of the night till we left at 1 am charged for us
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Love it, we are real Power Users in here
I have this for when I REALLY have to top up, it supports Fast Charge 1.0
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Thats the thing, I am not squeezing it out with the S7E, this is only its 4th discharge since getting it on Tuesday, its comfortably going past 8hours with a lot of Social Media (Instagram, FB and Twitter usage), a bit of YouTube, playing music via BT in the car, Whatsapp and 3 email accs. (1 work, 2 personal).
I am a bit of a stickler when it comes to Battery Life, so I wanted the best I could get. The V20 is a beast, no denying it, the review this guy did actually did not it any justice, and whoever said it sounds like he had the phone for a few minutes is right, he did not even cover battery usage, or give a more thorough idea of what the phone is like to live with day to day.
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Love it, we are real Power Users in here
I have this for when I REALLY have to top up, it supports Fast Charge 1.0
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lol i understand.. was just trying to point out im doing the complete opposite in trying to use batterty as much as i can to see what i can get out of it being a power user so 6hours while trying to drain it is great
Mines 3.0 quick charge. Think everyone should have 1 power bank as I can use this for power outages and so on. I don't think if I didn't get one for Disney I might never would of got one. Sure mine is 3 usb charge ports and the biggest one they make I believe but had 3 phones to charge lol.
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The only thing stopping me getting the S8 is potential poor battery life. Since it's the same size as the S7 Edge I would have expected it to have similar battery performance, but looking at the projections it seems the S8 doesn't hold a candle.
The S8+ is too big for me so not an option.
I think they should be on par, around the same SOT. The regular S8 is the new S7 and the S8+ is the new Edge when you think about it. So you should compare the S7 with the S8. Time will tell.
That was my worry too but I asked at the new york event and they told me the system has been optimized for it and does not huge a lot of battery as before. the lady had it for a week before the presentation and told me she saw the difference, let's see now...
Came across this online which might give some idea on how battery will perform. Of course some people will have lower or higher SOT. But if you ask me that's 5+ SOT is not bad at all.
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Came across this online which might give some idea on how battery will perform. Of course some people will have lower or higher SOT. But if you ask me that's 5+ SOT is not bad at all.
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That's about on par with the S7 then. Pretty much the expected SOT for normal usage with Samsung phones. It's the average these days and it's good enough. They have a less power hungry SoC but a bigger brighter screen so it evens things out. Good to know, thanks.
I think since Samsung put such a big battery in the S7 Edge, people are expecting them to do even better every year. I certainly am. If you think about it, the S8+ has a 6.2" display - that's massive compared to the 5.5" display of the S7 Edge. Yet they've put a smaller battery in. I know they say the cpu gets more efficient every year but I can't see it making that much of a difference to offset the smaller battery compared to the bigger display.
I'm yet to be proven wrong though. I must say I'm still very happy with my S7 Edge and although I'm itching to get the S8, I might just hang on for the time being.
Idk what but I am getting frustrated by this SOT, I find this battery performance unacceptable by today's standards. I hope company would focus less in gimmicks and more on battery optimization, technologies.
Really hoping for S8+ battery life being good.
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I think since Samsung put such a big battery in the S7 Edge, people are expecting them to do even better every year. I certainly am. If you think about it, the S8+ has a 6.2" display - that's massive compared to the 5.5" display of the S7 Edge. Yet they've put a smaller battery in. I know they say the cpu gets more efficient every year but I can't see it making that much of a difference to offset the smaller battery compared to the bigger display.
I'm yet to be proven wrong though. I must say I'm still very happy with my S7 Edge and although I'm itching to get the S8, I might just hang on for the time being.
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It is frustrating, the battery often gets overlooked. Although the images and previews I have seen so far suggest the battery life is pretty much the same, it was never that great to begin with. It is the average for high end phones. Instead of the ongoing trend to have super slim devices, I would much prefer a little more thickness to host a larger capacity battery.
It has apparently improved in one big way though, Samsung say it will hold charge better over time. 5% diminished in a year rather than the 20-30% in previous batteries.
Coming from the LG V20, I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the S8+'s battery life.
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Coming from the LG V20, I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the S8+'s battery life.
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It will be alright, more is always better though. Especially for things like VR, movies and games. I'll be happy enough and at least it charges quickly.
Considering my S6 has kinda crappy battery life, virtually anything else will be an upgrade from that, haha. But, I do hope the battery life is actually good, despite the larger screen and same size battery as last year's S7.
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Coming from the LG V20, I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the S8+'s battery life.
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Same here. The V20 stand-by life is excellent. But the onscreen life is subpar.
Im pretty disappoinited as well especially after my s7e got updated to N. I only want the s8 as it compares to my s7e which i find to be the perfect size. Smaller battery with bigger screen. Thats what they did with the s6e and the battery was sht
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Instead of the ongoing trend to have super slim devices, I would much prefer a little more thickness to host a larger capacity battery.
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I completely agree.
I really don't understand this desperate need for thinner phones. I find that the thinner they are, the less comfortable they are to hold and use. When I go back and hold an older phone that is significantly thicker, it actually feels better in the hand, not worse. Easier to grip and manipulate with one hand and I feel like I am less likely to accidentally drop it.
The only dimension that needs to remain small enough is the side-to-side width. They've done a great job with that on the S8/S8+. Now if they would make the phone 2-3mm thicker and the same width, I wager that it would not only be more comfortable to hold, but it would probably accommodate 4500mAh or more for battery size.
The problem is they seem to think that since the New 10nm is more efficient sticking the same or lesser battery capacity will yield a similar battery life. They dont let the users benefit from hving lower battery consumption chips
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The problem is they seem to think that since the New 10nm is more efficient sticking the same or lesser battery capacity will yield a similar battery life. They dont let the users benefit from hving lower battery consumption chips
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Well, they are not stupid. They make their statistics assessment to figure out what is more attractive, the screen or more battery. Looks like many people prefer "fancy" screen.
If I remember correctly the fiery Note 7 had the same size battery as the S7 edge or it might have been 100mah less and it had better sot than the S7 edge
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I'm hoping it will match or surpass my iPhone 6s+ which has been excellent but like having handcuffs on for 1.5 years now..
Saw a video that showed a predicted battery life time of 45 hours without power saving on. If true that means i can finally do a day without charging my phone when my S8 arrives.
Hey all,
I wanted to make a quick rundown of my review of the s9 so far. I have the sm-g965u on T-mobile, I moved from a TMo Galaxy s5 that was rooted with a 7800mah battery. At it's peak i'd get about 3-4 days with moderate use but with 1 gig of ram moving to the s9 is a huge improvement. The speed of this phone is unbelievable. It's incredibly snappy.
My biggest issue is the battery life at this point, my battery info shows at 3500 mah but I can barely finish a day with light use with full battery. I never had this idle drain with my s5. It's 10:28am here and after 46 minutes of screen time, 23 minutes of waze i'm down to 86%!
I'm hoping once root and roms start getting pushed out for the U variant things start improving or Samsung fixes some stuff.
I am also coming from S5 and used it with the battery that came with it, 2800mAh I guess, charge it twice a day at least to keep it running, I have heard the same about S9+, the battery can only keep a day running. Samsung will definitely fix these issues in an update. Not sure when that will happen though.
Btw does the size bother you? S9+ is taller than S5, not sure if it will easily fit in front pockets of pants easily.
Good luck waiting for that custom rom...Because even on the GS8+ after a year there are no custom roms for the U model. For exynos, development could be amazing because of project treble.
Basically, don't get your hopes up. If you have an issue with battery (which to be fair you probably will), try and disable some of those apps with package disabler pro, install greenify and hope for the best.
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I am also coming from S5 and used it with the battery that came with it, 2800mAh I guess, charge it twice a day at least to keep it running, I have heard the same about S9+, the battery can only keep a day running. Samsung will definitely fix these issues in an update. Not sure when that will happen though.
Btw does the size bother you? S9+ is taller than S5, not sure if it will easily fit in front pockets of pants easily.
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Oh yeah, The size does great! I put mine in my back pocket, will have a zero lemon on the way here soon. I put other things in my front pockets... It's either in my pocket or on my desk with my Gear s3 taking over.
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Good luck waiting for that custom rom...Because even on the GS8+ after a year there are no custom roms for the U model. For exynos, development could be amazing because of project treble.
Basically, don't get your hopes up. If you have an issue with battery (which to be fair you probably will), try and disable some of those apps with package disabler pro, install greenify and hope for the best.
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I was actually really curious about that thank you for that, I'm guessing i'll find myself moving over to the OP 6 when it comes out and just selling this one.
So you've moved to a phone with a SOC that's probably 3 times as fast, has 6 times the RAM, a much bigger and brighter screen, and a battery less than half the size, and you're surprised it doesn't last nearly as long on a charge?
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So you've moved to a phone with a SOC that's probably 3 times as fast, has 6 times the RAM, a much bigger and brighter screen, and a battery less than half the size, and you're surprised it doesn't last nearly as long on a charge?
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I had a pretty big thought process I was going to go with, but since I haven't picked up the S9+ will just say "sorryboutyou".
I have an S5 laying around here and had a Note 3 and 4 with extended batteries. I never saw 3-4 days EVER.
Treo 600 representing! That 650 upgrade was the bees knees though. Got that advanced coupon at the conference in Dallas and by the time they showed up from that "deal" I already had been using my Sprint one for weeks.
What on earth is going in here ? Lol ????????
I used S5 for 3 yars. Battery life is same as S9+ but S9+ is much, much faster and better at all.