the s7 is supposed to have shorter battery life than the s7e, but most such comparisons are done using the same chips. does anyone have experience with how these two fare, when you compare a exynos-driven s7 (which should be more power efficient?) vs a SD-driven s7e? is the difference in battery life less noticeable?
i have a s7e (sd820) that has pretty good battery life, but after a few months with fat-palming the "edge" repeatedly and finding the phablet size a bit too clumsy, i'm thinking about hopping "down" to a s7 instead. local retailers stock exynos-powered s7 vs sd820-powered s7e's
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the s7 is supposed to have shorter battery life than the s7e, but most such comparisons are done using the same chips. does anyone have experience with how these two fare, when you compare a exynos-driven s7 (which should be more power efficient?) vs a SD-driven s7e? is the difference in battery life less noticeable?
i have a s7e (sd820) that has pretty good battery life, but after a few months with fat-palming the "edge" repeatedly and finding the phablet size a bit too clumsy, i'm thinking about hopping "down" to a s7 instead. local retailers stock exynos-powered s7 vs sd820-powered s7e's
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Well, there is little difference between the Snapdragon and Exynos but both have their advantages and disadvantages. For example the Exynos has better cpu, has a better battery life, runs cooler, is not locked to a carrier meaning that you can use it anywhere in the world basically, hasn't got a locked bootloader which means that you can root it and install custom roms. But on the other hand the snapdragon has more radio bands so it should have better LTE and stuff like that and has a better gpu. So ultimately the choice is yours because the differences aren't that big either.
custom roms for exynos?
does that mean there will be kernel source code available for it?
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custom roms for exynos?
does that mean there will be kernel source code available for it?
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Not exactly, that's the problem. Samsung doesn't want to release the source code, so the devs have to figure it out by their own, but it is not possible with the snapdragon one because their bootloaders are locked down.
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Well, there is little difference between the Snapdragon and Exynos but both have their advantages and disadvantages. For example the Exynos has better cpu, has a better battery life, runs cooler, is not locked to a carrier meaning that you can use it anywhere in the world basically, hasn't got a locked bootloader which means that you can root it and install custom roms. But on the other hand the snapdragon has more radio bands so it should have better LTE and stuff like that and has a better gpu. So ultimately the choice is yours because the differences aren't that big either.
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thanks mate. i was looking at this more from the perspective of real life battery life - if a exynos s7 has the same real life battery life as a sd820 s7e, then i'm inclined to take the former
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thanks mate. i was looking at this more from the perspective of real life battery life - if a exynos s7 has the same real life battery life as a sd820 s7e, then i'm inclined to take the former
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Well, the choice is yours.
ngmic said:
thanks mate. i was looking at this more from the perspective of real life battery life - if a exynos s7 has the same real life battery life as a sd820 s7e, then i'm inclined to take the former
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It's a myth that Exynos S7 has better battery life than SD820 S7. They are both comparable barring any software bugs. If you read all the battery threads, you'll see that depending on software build, people will either complain that their Exynos/SD820 S7 has terrible battery drain, or fantasic SoT. Initially, SD820 looked worse because of a pretty bad software bug. Lately, it seems like Samsung may have inadvertently included that bug in the Exynos builds by mistake and fixed the SD820 as all the complains about poor battery life I see are for Exynos and no longer SD820
I have an SD820 S7 on T-Mobile, and on the PC8 update, Android System and Android OS battery drain is fixed and my SoT, standby drain rates, usage times, etc are as good as any of the best reported Exynos numbers I've seen. I've heard the Android System drain is back in the latest update, so I'm holding off on that.
As mentioned, battery life is a non-issue and shouldn't be a deciding factor. The choice should be based on if you want unlocked bootloader vs. better GPU, wifi calling, etc.
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Sup y'all, there's no doubt that the S7 is superior to the S6 in every way. But is it that much superior? The S6 is still one of the best phones available in my opinion. So, previous S6 owners, how do you feel about it? Is it worth spending $700 on the S7 coming from an S6? Cheers!
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If you want a very good low light camera, or want to capture images underwater, then go for it, otherwise NO
I dunno, I'm not super happy with my S6. It's pretty laggy and slow and not that fluid. For example, I have a full page Chrome boomark widget. When I scroll through that widget, it's very jittery. My S5 was smooth and the S6 isn't. Hopefully the S7 will be better in all aspects. We'll see.
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I dunno, I'm not super happy with my S6. It's pretty laggy and slow and not that fluid. For example, I have a full page Chrome boomark widget. When I scroll through that widget, it's very jittery. My S5 was smooth and the S6 isn't. Hopefully the S7 will be better in all aspects. We'll see.
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Is your S6 on Marshmallow?
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Definitely yes
I'm in the same boat and the greatest swing factor for me is battery life at this point. The S6 battery life is mediocre at best and from early impressions, the S7 and S7 edge are doing a lot better.
Beyond that, the rest is really just gravy on top, I'm satisfied with the S6 in all ways except battery life and lowlight performance at times.
In theory the S7 fixes all these issues and further polishes the device as a whole. The only issue is justifying the money to buy it which is all dependent upon if I can sell off my S6.
Regardless, I'm still holding off for official reviews to release before I fully make up my mind and weigh the pros and cons.
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I'm leaning towards yeah...
For me the sd-card, water-resistance, improved battery life and improved (low-light) camera performance give it a major plus. I actually have the S6 now and really like it, but think I'll upgrade to the S7 afterall. Of course that is all given the money is not a real issue... If you're on a tight budget I'd have to think twice.
It's worth it if you want a decent battery life, the Galaxy S6 is pretty inefficient in that regard
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It's worth it if you want a decent battery life, the Galaxy S6 is pretty inefficient in that regard
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not sure if battery life is really that good on the s7...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/battery-life-issues-t3326793
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/android-android-os-using-50-battery-life-t3327104
I cannot complain that battery life is bad on s6. Don't know why there should be such a big difference. battery is just a little bigger on s7
The battery still lasts a hell of a lot longer than the S6 even with the drain that users are reporting.
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Is your S6 on Marshmallow?
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No, it's not. Verizon is slow to upgrade!
Is Marshmallow that much better for the S6?
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No, it's not. Verizon is slow to upgrade!
Is Marshmallow that much better for the S6?
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Hello, everyone.
I have a Nexus 5X. The phone is good, but when I bought I was expecting a better battery life and perfomance (before Nexus 5X, I had a Galaxy S6). Now I wonder if it worth the upgrade: sell my N5X and buy a Galaxy S7 (flat).
Is the Galaxy S7 flat really better then Galaxy S6/Nexus 5X? I mean, battery, perfomance, etc?
Would I have to do several tweaks to get 5h SoT or I can reach that full stock with moderate use (Chrome browsing, Whatsapp and Facebook)?
Whay are the pros and cons of this beautiful phone?
About updates: will Galaxy S7 receive Android O?
Thanks in advance, I appreciate your help.
Best Regards.
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Hello, everyone.
I have a Nexus 5X. The phone is good, but when I bought I was expecting a better battery life and perfomance (before Nexus 5X, I had a Galaxy S6). Now I wonder if it worth the upgrade: sell my N5X and buy a Galaxy S7 (flat).
Is the Galaxy S7 flat really better then Galaxy S6/Nexus 5X? I mean, battery, perfomance, etc?
Would I have to do several tweaks to get 5h SoT or I can reach that full stock with moderate use (Chrome browsing, Whatsapp and Facebook)?
Whay are the pros and cons of this beautiful phone?
About updates: will Galaxy S7 receive Android O?
Thanks in advance, I appreciate your help.
Best Regards.
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Coming from the Nexus 5X here are the Pros and Cons of getting the S7 Flat
First, I would recommend you get the Exynos Variant. Don't waste your time on the Snapdragon Variant as the bootloader is locked, and the Exynos Variant was proven to be more battery friendly on multiple tests ( Source: GSM Arena )
Pros
--> Better Battery Life, 3000mAh
--> Amazing Display ( 2k vs 1080p of Nexus 5X ) not to mention its Amoled so colors really look punchy and blacks are real deep
--> Fluid and fast
--> Camera is one of the best I've used and If I'm not mistaken the best right now in its league
--> Device feels premium and solid when you hold it
--> Monthly Software Updates
Cons
--> Speaker sounds horrible, very flat sound even with Viper4Android and other Audio Mods
--> Without case, device feels slippery as the back is made out of glass
--> Non-removable battery
--> Snapdragon Variant has locked bootloader ( which you can't unlock )
--> Price
TL;DR - It's a really great phone, and the difference coming from the Nexus 5X is really noticeable. I recommend you get the S7 Exynos, its worth every dollar.
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Coming from the Nexus 5X here are the Pros and Cons of getting the S7 Flat
First, I would recommend you get the Exynos Variant. Don't waste your time on the Snapdragon Variant as the bootloader is locked, and the Exynos Variant was proven to be more battery friendly on multiple tests ( Source: GSM Arena )
Pros
--> Better Battery Life, 3000mAh
--> Amazing Display ( 2k vs 1080p of Nexus 5X ) not to mention its Amoled so colors really look punchy and blacks are real deep
--> Fluid and fast
--> Camera is one of the best I've used and If I'm not mistaken the best right now in its league
--> Device feels premium and solid when you hold it
--> Monthly Software Updates
Cons
--> Speaker sounds horrible, very flat sound even with Viper4Android and other Audio Mods
--> Without case, device feels slippery as the back is made out of glass
--> Non-removable battery
--> Snapdragon Variant has locked bootloader ( which you can't unlock )
--> Price
TL;DR - It's a really great phone, and the difference coming from the Nexus 5X is really noticeable. I recommend you get the S7 Exynos, its worth every dollar.
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Thank you!
About cons you mencioned:
1- Nexus 5X's speaker are not that good as well, but it's not crucial...
2- I always use a case, even on my old iPhone 5S, my old G S6 and now on Nexus 5X
3- My other option would be iPhone 6S, which is also non-removable (like my Nexus 5X )
4- I'll try to find the Exysnos version
So the battery is really noticeable if compared to Nexus 5X and my old Galaxy S6, right?
Screen and perfomance I know, it's fantastic!
Again, I appreciate your time.
Regards
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Thank you!
About cons you mencioned:
1- Nexus 5X's speaker are not that good as well, but it's not crucial...
2- I always use a case, even on my old iPhone 5S, my old G S6 and now on Nexus 5X
3- My other option would be iPhone 6S, which is also non-removable (like my Nexus 5X )
4- I'll try to find the Exysnos version
So the battery is really noticeable if compared to Nexus 5X and my old Galaxy S6, right?
Screen and perfomance I know, it's fantastic!
Again, I appreciate your time.
Regards
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Yes, I come from the Z3 Compact which if you do some research has phenomenal battery life ( Around 101h based on GSM Arena's Test ). The S7 has solid battery life, I use it mostly to browse the net and watch anime via MX Player and I get around 30-40% at the end of the day. Your usage patterns might vary but it will comfortably get you through the day.
Please don't get the Snapdragon Version, the Exynos S7 is far better compared to the Snapdragon in terms of efficiency, multitasking and battery life. The Snapdragon Version excels in Single Core Benchmarks and the GPU is slightly more powerful on paper. On real life usage, tests have shown a difference of 1-2 Fps in games which is really not that significant ( GSM Arena Tests )
You might have a hard time looking for a screen protector as the S7 has 2.5D Glass which means the sides are slightly curved, due to this, there aren't any tempered glass that covers the whole display. Although protective films with Self-healing tech such as Armorsuit's offering is case friendly. Most screen covers get pushed by the case therefore causing bubbles, but Armorsuit and IQ Shield are AFAIK case friendly.
Goodluck and I hope you enjoy your new device!
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Yes, I come from the Z3 Compact which if you do some research has phenomenal battery life ( Around 101h based on GSM Arena's Test ). The S7 has solid battery life, I use it mostly to browse the net and watch anime via MX Player and I get around 30-40% at the end of the day. Your usage patterns might vary but it will comfortably get you through the day.
Please don't get the Snapdragon Version, the Exynos S7 is far better compared to the Snapdragon in terms of efficiency, multitasking and battery life. The Snapdragon Version excels in Single Core Benchmarks and the GPU is slightly more powerful on paper. On real life usage, tests have shown a difference of 1-2 Fps in games which is really not that significant ( GSM Arena Tests )
You might have a hard time looking for a screen protector as the S7 has 2.5D Glass which means the sides are slightly curved, due to this, there aren't any tempered glass that covers the whole display. Although protective films with Self-healing tech such as Armorsuit's offering is case friendly. Most screen covers get pushed by the case therefore causing bubbles, but Armorsuit and IQ Shield are AFAIK case friendly.
Goodluck and I hope you enjoy your new device!
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I guess here in Brazil, the version that is sold is the Exynos version.
Thank you for the tips.
Best Regards
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I guess here in Brazil, the version that is sold is the Exynos version.
Thank you for the tips.
Best Regards
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My pleasure, everyone should have the right to experience this great device
Hey guys so im buing a new phone and i've stopped on these two the Xperia x performance because of the Snapdragon 820 and the Galaxy S6 because i like samsung phones and touchwiz in general . I can get the GS6 for 380 dollars and the Xperia for 420 dollars both are new not used i don't buy used products .
Go for Galaxy S6 of course! I had Galaxy S6 Edge+ for few months then I switched to Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and it was like hell! Now I'm using Galaxy S6 and it's was better than the Z5P!
Better screen quality (SuperAMOLED QuadHD), better software experience, better camera, better loudspeakers!
If you can get S6 Edge it will be even better experience.
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Go for Galaxy S6 of course! I had Galaxy S6 Edge+ for few months then I switched to Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and it was like hell! Now I'm using Galaxy S6 and it's was better than the Z5P!
Better screen quality (SuperAMOLED QuadHD), better software experience, better camera, better loudspeakers!
If you can get S6 Edge it will be even better experience.
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I can get the S6 Edge for 30 more dollars. The S6 has the Samsung Game Tuner right ? And can the resolution be dropped to 1080 if needed for a game in the future ?
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I can get the S6 Edge for 30 more dollars. The S6 has the Samsung Game Tuner right ? And can the resolution be dropped to 1080 if needed for a game in the future ?
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In fact dropping resolution to 720p for games with Game Tuner app and browser to 1080p with it is optimum and reduces battery usage. But,
X Performance has sd820 and good battery life. Go for it without hesitation as with sd820, you're sure you'll be able to flash newer Android versions when official support is over unlike s6 which has only touchwiz derived roms. S6 never lags and so on, but so is the X Performance with newer cpu. And S6 battery is not enough if you want to game. It's mediocre
I like my s6, but c'mon for $40 more, you get sd820 and the beast Adreno 530!
And the S6 Edge is a scam as the edge is useless and expensive to repair. Should be like only $10 more. And Quad HD screen is useless. Only the camera of the S6 is a great deal!
S6 all the way
I think hardware wise the s6 edges it some aspects. The s6 has a better screen, design, speaker, camera. The sd820 cpu wise has a ln edge over the exynos 7420 but not by a big margin, the adreno gpu is very side and has an advantage over the Mali. Where the Sony probably has another advantage is probably battery life and custom rom access as sd is easier to develop for than exynos. Overall feature wise the s6 does have a few more than the Sony but if you want better battery life, the Sony is your best bet. It all depends on what your preference is and what you value in a device
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I think hardware wise the s6 edges it some aspects. The s6 has a better screen, design, speaker, camera. The sd820 cpu wise has a ln edge over the exynos 7420 but not by a big margin, the adreno gpu is very side and has an advantage over the Mali. Where the Sony probably has another advantage is probably battery life and custom rom access as sd is easier to develop for than exynos. Overall feature wise the s6 does have a few more than the Sony but if you want better battery life, the Sony is your best bet. It all depends on what your preference is and what you value in a device
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I want the phone to have a great display,speaker,headphone output,ok performance because the most demanding games i will play are Asphalt and Fifa mobile. I know that i won't use the power of the SD 820 to its max potential because as i mention i don't play the most demanding games , but a small part of me always says go for the specs even tough i like the GS6 more than the Sony.
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I want the phone to have a great display,speaker,headphone output,ok performance because the most demanding games i will play are Asphalt and Fifa mobile. I know that i won't use the power of the SD 820 to its max potential because as i mention i don't play the most demanding games , but a small part of me always says go for the specs even tough i like the GS6 more than the Sony.
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Tbf I've played some graphically intensive games on the s6 pretty well, the gpu is still a pretty good one, a lot of ports have played great. There's a munches odyssey game not a port on playstore which is very gpu intensive and I got decent framerates. I think if anything maybe battery life could be better on the s6, I mean for me I still manage to get a days use out of it depending on what I'm doing.
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Tbf I've played some graphically intensive games on the s6 pretty well, the gpu is still a pretty good one, a lot of ports have played great. There's a munches odyssey game not a port on playstore which is very gpu intensive and I got decent framerates. I think if anything maybe battery life could be better on the s6, I mean for me I still manage to get a days use out of it depending on what I'm doing.
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Nice ! Battery isn't that much of a concern because i carry a 2700 mAh portable battery with me. I know its an older device but will support continue for it to at least get 7.0 .?
Oneplus 3T
Tarbruh said:
Nice ! Battery isn't that much of a concern because i carry a 2700 mAh portable battery with me. I know its an older device but will support continue for it to at least get 7.0 .?
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The nougat update for the s6 is due in the next couple of weeks. The nougat manual for the s6 and s6 edge has been released so the actual update shouldn't be too far away
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The OP3T is 20 dollars away from the GS7 for me so thats a nope.
A disapointment for Me in S6 is touchscreen. Sometimes it is not working as it should (not registering touch) and using it outside in winter is useless. I don't know it is just My device or it is My cold fingers, but this issue is a big one. A lot of people on web have reported this and now I'm testing *#2663# "fix", will see how it will end for Me. If I would have know this I would bought X Compact for the same price. (There was bargain deal on My operator, S6 will cost Me 240eur, X Compact would be around 250eur if I remember correctly)
Will s8+ have longer battery life than s7 edge?
Samsung claims the battery life will be relatively the same:
https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s8-battery-claims/
It's kind of hard to really say if their claims will be accurate or not as there's multiple factors to consider. Firstly, the 8+ battery is 100 mAh smaller than the S7e, and it also has both a larger display, and more pixels in its display, which effects battery life dramatically. However, with a new, supposedly markedly more efficient processor, it's perfectly possible that it will be able to offset the loss of mAh and the larger display.
At very least, I think it's safe to say it will not have longer battery life than the S7e.
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Samsung claims the battery life will be relatively the same:
https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s8-battery-claims/
It's kind of hard to really say if their claims will be accurate or not as there's multiple factors to consider. Firstly, the 8+ battery is 100 mAh smaller than the S7e, and it also has both a larger display, and more pixels in its display, which effects battery life dramatically. However, with a new, supposedly markedly more efficient processor, it's perfectly possible that it will be able to offset the loss of mAh and the larger display.
At very least, I think it's safe to say it will not have longer battery life than the S7e.
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It's a shame really, that's what we get for the current trend of slim is better. It's all about the aesthetics now...well that and the lessons learned from the Note 7 debacle. I'm sure they are nervous about making big changes in the battery department. Hopefully one of those battery breakthroughs that often get reported in the tech news see the light of day sooner rather than later.
I never get more than around 5 hours screen on time with any of the Galaxy series that I have owned. Even if I'm just doing light browsing and shut everything off lol. The Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus I have now gets me 7-9 hours and that's pretty insane, even with more intensive stuff. Pity it's not that great a phone. The camera sucks compared to my old S7. Oh well, at least the battery charges fast and there is an abundance of portable battery packs these days.
i hope it's the same, because i am tired of my S6 battery life, have to charge it 2-3 times everyday
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i hope it's the same, because i am tired of my S6 battery life, have to charge it 2-3 times everyday
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would have lost 20-30% of its max capacity by now. That's another problem with batteries that has been going on for far too long. That's something that needs innovation and fast.
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It's a shame really, that's what we get for the current trend of slim is better. It's all about the aesthetics now...well that and the lessons learned from the Note 7 debacle. I'm sure they are nervous about making big changes in the battery department. Hopefully one of those battery breakthroughs that often get reported in the tech news see the light of day sooner rather than later.
I never get more than around 5 hours screen on time with any of the Galaxy series that I have owned. Even if I'm just doing light browsing and shut everything off lol. The Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus I have now gets me 7-9 hours and that's pretty insane, even with more intensive stuff. Pity it's not that great a phone. The camera sucks compared to my old S7. Oh well, at least the battery charges fast and there is an abundance of portable battery packs these days.
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Eh, I think it might just be that cellphone manufactures have a mark they want to hit with battery life, and don't usually seem too interested in extending it beyond that. Every major flagship now seems to be in that 4-6 SOT range without much variance. Whether it be the iPhone, or G6, or Moto phones, they all seem to end up in that ballpark.
Personally, I get 4-5 hours of SOT with my S7 - and if I'm using my phone constantly using wi-fi, I can get get almost 6 hours of SOT under it. If the 8+ can be 15% better than that, like it should be, I'll be quite pleased.
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Samsung claims the battery life will be relatively the same:
https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s8-battery-claims/
It's kind of hard to really say if their claims will be accurate or not as there's multiple factors to consider. Firstly, the 8+ battery is 100 mAh smaller than the S7e, and it also has both a larger display, and more pixels in its display, which effects battery life dramatically. However, with a new, supposedly markedly more efficient processor, it's perfectly possible that it will be able to offset the loss of mAh and the larger display.
At very least, I think it's safe to say it will not have longer battery life than the S7e.
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It will be shorter on the S8. What Samsung are not telling people is that the battery stats for the S7 were done at it's full 1440p resolution (because Nougat was not out and resolution could not be changed at that time). The S8 battery stats are done using it's "default" resolution of 1080. So the numbers are manipulated to look similar but they are not comparing the same resolution, so the S8 will last LESS than the S7 if you run it at its 1440p resolution. IMO Samsung are intentionally misleading people to hide this fact.
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It will be shorter on the S8. What Samsung are not telling people is that the battery stats for the S7 were done at it's full 1440p resolution (because Nougat was not out and resolution could not be changed at that time). The S8 battery stats are done using it's "default" resolution of 1080. So the numbers are manipulated to look similar but they are not comparing the same resolution, so the S8 will last LESS than the S7 if you run it at its 1440p resolution. IMO Samsung are intentionally misleading people to hide this fact.
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You can't create your own facts. You need to provide a credible source to back up your claims. I personally don't believe it. Same res, similar battery and a less power hungry SoC. I'm pretty sure they have been further optimising their software too (for what that's worth). I'm almost certain that the battery will be on par with last year's model. I can't see any reason why not.
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You can't create your own facts. You need to provide a credible source to back up your claims. I personally don't believe it. Same res, similar battery and a less power hungry SoC. I'm pretty sure they have been further optimising their software too (for what that's worth). I'm almost certain that the battery will be on par with last year's model. I can't see any reason why not.
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exactly, you can't just assume that they were talking about 1080p resolution, we have to wait and see....
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would have lost 20-30% of its max capacity by now. That's another problem with batteries that has been going on for far too long. That's something that needs innovation and fast.
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they say that their new battery can hold 95% of its age even after two years....
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You can't create your own facts. You need to provide a credible source to back up your claims. I personally don't believe it. Same res, similar battery and a less power hungry SoC. I'm pretty sure they have been further optimising their software too (for what that's worth). I'm almost certain that the battery will be on par with last year's model. I can't see any reason why not.
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Credible source? Samsung's own documentation credible enough for you? They state the "default" resolution is 1080 in the documentation. They are NOT going to state that and then provide battery stats based on 1440 are they, now THAT would be stupid.
You'll see soon enough once someone does a good test of 1440p vs s7 at 1440p and 1080p vs s7 at 1080p. Don't say you weren't warned.
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You can't create your own facts. You need to provide a credible source to back up your claims. I personally don't believe it. Same res, similar battery and a less power hungry SoC. I'm pretty sure they have been further optimising their software too (for what that's worth). I'm almost certain that the battery will be on par with last year's model. I can't see any reason why not.
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While I agree, I actually had the same suspicion as ewokuk.
I think it comes down to what is the default resolution the phone is shipping with.
The S8 and S8+ ship with FHD res, which is why I think their stats are for this resolution. What's the default res on the S7?
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Credible source? Samsung's own documentation credible enough for you? They state the "default" resolution is 1080 in the documentation. They are NOT going to state that and then provide battery stats based on 1440 are they, now THAT would be stupid.
You'll see soon enough once someone does a good test of 1440p vs s7 at 1440p and 1080p vs s7 at 1080p. Don't say you weren't warned.
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You are talking about things as if they are fact when in reality, you are making your own opinions.
Yes the default is 1080p so what? That just means the phone is set at FHD out of the box. Not that they did battery tests at that resolution. You need facts before telling people it's a reality. You putting two and two together is not a fact.
If you look at it from a more intelligent point of view, the battery is pretty much the same, the SoC is more battery efficient. Minus the larger screen battery drain and it should even out to be on par with the S7. What makes you think it will be worse battery life when you consider the hardware?
Mate, it'll be the same or not far off in either direction. The battery life of Samsung phones isn't great and people already know that. It's going to be average as usual. It's a pointless conversation. The phone will be bought by many regardless.
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Dat Noob said:
While I agree, I actually had the same suspicion as ewokuk.
I think it comes down to what is the default resolution the phone is shipping with.
The S8 and S8+ ship with FHD res, which is why I think their stats are for this resolution. What's the default res on the S7?
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It's 1080p, as introduced by Android N. It didn't start that way however as it was launched with a default of QHD. The point is, there is nothing to suggest it will have worse battery life because the hardware says otherwise. It's an opinion until we have a definitive answer through testing and reviews. I can't say it will be more or less, it's only my OPINION that it will be on par with the S7. Ewokuk is pushing his suspicion as fact so I replied. That is all.
Edit- Just want to add that changing the resolution barely makes any difference to the battery life if any. It still has a QHD screen even if you change the res. You can't change the pixel count. It's more about giving you better performance in games etc. We will have to see.
Highspeed123 said:
You are talking about things as if they are fact when in reality, you are making your own opinions.
Yes the default is 1080p so what? That just means the phone is set at FHD out of the box. Not that they did battery tests at that resolution. You need facts before telling people it's a reality. You putting two and two together is not a fact.
If you look at it from a more intelligent point of view, the battery is pretty much the same, the SoC is more battery efficient. Minus the larger screen battery drain and it should even out to be on par with the S7. What makes you think it will be worse battery life when you consider the hardware?
Mate, it'll be the same or not far off in either direction. The battery life of Samsung phones isn't great and people already know that. It's going to be average as usual. It's a pointless conversation. The phone will be bought by many regardless.
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It's 1080p, as introduced by Android N. It didn't start that way however as it was launched with a default of QHD. The point is, there is nothing to suggest it will have worse battery life because the hardware says otherwise. It's an opinion until we have a definitive answer through testing and reviews. I can't say it will be more or less, it's only my OPINION that it will be on par with the S7. Ewokuk is pushing his suspicion as fact so I replied. That is all.
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Oh come now, are you seriously telling me you think they set the default resolution to 1080 and then tested and made public battery expectations based on 1440 (AND didn't bother to tell people that these were based on 1440)? Wake up man, the company isn't THAT stupid, in fact the way they have done it is quite clever (enough to fool many people clearly). It won't be long until I am proved right when the proper tests come out. :good:
As for changing the resolution not having much effect on battery, that is only the case if all you do is browse the web. At 1080p it is still lighting up the full 1440p pixels yes, but it does not have to do the increased calculations to display a sharper image. This is why a graphics card on a pc (which does work in exactly the same way) can output a higher FPS when you lower the resolution.....it has far few calculations to do......but the monitor is still using the same number of pixels. The more graphically intense your usage, the worse the battery drain will be at 1440. So that will be videos and games like you say.
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Oh come now, are you seriously telling me you think they set the default resolution to 1080 and then tested and made public battery expectations based on 1440 (AND didn't bother to tell people that these were based on 1440)? Wake up man, the company isn't THAT stupid, in fact the way they have done it is quite clever (enough to fool many people clearly). It won't be long until I am proved right when the proper tests come out. :good:
As for changing the resolution not having much effect on battery, that is only the case if all you do is browse the web. At 1080p it is still lighting up the full 1440p pixels yes, but it does not have to do the increased calculations to display a sharper image. This is why a graphics card on a pc (which does work in exactly the same way) can output a higher FPS when you lower the resolution.....it has far few calculations to do......but the monitor is still using the same number of pixels. The more graphically intense your usage, the worse the battery drain will be at 1440. So that will be videos and games like you say.
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Nope, I'm saying that you don't know the battery life by looking at a spec sheet and neither do I. It's your opinion vs my opinion. Neither of our opinions are facts until proven.
I know how resolution works, how hardware works and you are correct in some ways. It's just that testing on the S7, while changing resolution has proven to not make a big difference in battery life. Why that is, I don't know. Maybe it's not truly changing the res as you would when setting it on your PC. All I know is that I didn't gain much in terms of battery when I tried it
What would be causing the S8 to have inferior battery life over the S7? The hardware suggests it should be around the same, forget about resolution and look at it that way. As you say and I agree with, we will have to wait and see.
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Nope, I'm saying that you don't know the battery life by looking at a spec sheet and neither do I. It's your opinion vs my opinion. Neither of our opinions are facts until proven.
I know how resolution works, how hardware works and you are correct in some ways. It's just that testing on the S7, while changing resolution has proven to not make a big difference in battery life. Why that is, I don't know. Maybe it's not truly changing the res as you would when setting it on your PC. All I know is that I didn't gain much in terms of battery when I tried it
What would be causing the S8 to have inferior battery life over the S7? The hardware suggests it should be around the same, forget about resolution and look at it that way. As you say and I agree with, we will have to wait and see.
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The thing I most disagree with ewok here about is how much effect the screen resolution has on battery life. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the S8 ends up having less battery life than the S7, but from what I know about phones, that will be FAR more likely due to screen size, processor, and the overall optimization of the phone than the screen resolution.
I mean, just as evidence of that, look at the Exynos and Snapdragon versions of the S7. Despite having the same screen resolution, size, etc., the Snapdragon variant of the phone ended up with poorer battery life due to poor optimization of the processor.
With the Oreo update, the S7 gained a lot of performance in benchmarks and feels much snapier, bringing it much closer to S8 performance. The main apeal of the S8 now is that the battery is supposed to not degrade as fast as the S7. Can we put an S8 battery into an S7 ??
The capacity and voltages look the same, and the ribbon looks the same. I don't even know if Samsung sells the S8 OEM batteries. I can't get any information on the physical sizes of either battery.
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With the Oreo update, the S7 gained a lot of performance in benchmarks and feels much snapier, bringing it much closer to S8 performance. The main apeal of the S8 now is that the battery is supposed to not degrade as fast as the S7. Can we put an S8 battery into an S7 ??
The capacity and voltages look the same, and the ribbon looks the same. I don't even know if Samsung sells the S8 OEM batteries. I can't get any information on the physical sizes of either battery.
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Samsung is selling all of the parts on: samsungparts (just google samsung parts)
The s8 battery is not going to fit in s7's enclosure.:silly:
I think that only sensible solution for you would be a case with a powerbank.
I don't think that's a good option. However if it works for you please let me know. Everybody will fall in love with your suggestion if it really works