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You know I bought this phone on the premise that even if loaded with bloat the Snapdragon processor in here should be enough to handle it and still provide seamless screen transitions, etc.
Sadly it seems that this phone is laggy. At times when screen transitions it will "stutter" or otherwise "hesitate" causing a poor user experience.
So I did tweak my ROM up some, disabled most of the bloat and the experience is now what I would have expected from it stock.
I also understand that I am coming from my own tweaked ROMS on other high end devices but I just expected more from this.
What do you all think? What phone did you come from?
Yay another thread about the lag lol
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Yay another thread about the lag lol
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Can you post where, I want to read up on it. I will close this thread as well.
Will you be creating clean Rom for this?
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Will you be creating clean Rom for this?
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Yeah, I am debating whether or not to keep this thing.
Its nice but I was kinda expecting more punch from it. Plus its just line I dont need as I also want to keep my Verizon line so its up in the air right now.
I did stock rooted ROMS already from the latest OTA dumps but have not posted them pending testing.
I still have 12 days left to decide....
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Can you post where, I want to read up on it. I will close this thread as well.
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Most of them have been locked, but heres the more popular ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264407
Honestly with the bloat frozen this phone is nearly the same as my s3 was out of the box "lag" wise. I love it...
Really hope you decide to stay around, have only ever heard great things about clean rom but have never gotten to try it!
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Most of them have been locked, but heres the more popular ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264407
Honestly with the bloat frozen this phone is nearly the same as my s3 was out of the box "lag" wise. I love it...
Really hope you decide to stay around, have only ever heard great things about clean rom but have never gotten to try it!
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Exactly, its the same as an S3 with 1/2 the processing power.
I have Note II and S3 ROMS that are much smoother... I guess its going to be hard to judge until I can tear it apart and do some tweaking to the OS more. It sjust my Note II, stocked seemed faster.
I dont know yet. Just trying to gather opinions. I am sure Samsung will smooth it up. They made huge strides with the Note II.
I'll check out your links tonight. Thanks for posting them!
I was thinking about returning it for the one which is smooth as hell
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I have come from the note 2 as well and its unreal to realize the lag on this. Ive only froze the at&t bloat thinking it was enough but damn....its pretty bad.
Stock Note 2 smashes this. Im hoping if/when the bootloader gets unlocked, scrosler and other devs can make this GS4 into what its meant to be...a beastly device.
For now...its tolerable but its bad now because I expected more from a flagship phone.
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Hey Scrosler, loved your One X roms! As far as the lag goes, it does definitely seem that my S3 was faster. It's made it hell deciding on whether I should keep my S4 or HTC One, since I was going to originally take the One back. Aside from the stuff you probably did already, try disabling the lock screen animation as well as disabling the home button from accessing S Voice (double click the Home button, then go to settings to disable). These are the two things that seemed to have helped the most with lag issues. Still not perfect by any means, but it's much improved. Now if I could just do something about the damn keyboard lag..
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What about gaming. My girlfriend has the s4 and we did a head to head comparison of vice city and her one ran it smoother. That makes no sense to me.
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My wife is not experiencing any of this prolonged lag. Consider us lucky. Ours is pretty solid. The first time I did notice lag was while unlocking the phone with the "majestic twinkle" effect. It did it intermittently. Turned that effect off. Now unlocks smooth. Also turned off all transitions. Much better. Theres no stutters or lag spikes. Its pretty darn good. For a stock experience we are satisfied. If Scot does decide to develop for this phone I am confident it will be CleanRommed.
Comparing it to my Note 2 running cleanROM is totally unfair though
Mines snappy idk what you guys are talking about!
Scott keep it! You leaving the One was a big reason why i switched, and a few of the other inconveniences that comes along with an HTC
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Ah I don't know what to do. I love this device but hate how we have to disable all types of things in order for it to perform right
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Scott I came from your awesome note 2 Cleanrom..please don't leave. Just needs a good developer to teak it a bit.
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Hope you stay Scott as I love your ROM's as well...
But I would not blame you one bit if you ditched it!
I am seriously debating selling mine ( I paid full price ) and picking up a Nexus 4 but will wait until Google i/o before deciding what to do..
Same thing here I'm used to using my own ROMs, so there is that adjustment
But Scott as you know there is only so much that can be done with a ROM at the end of the day Samsung will have to adjust some things which then gives us a better base to work from, I'm sticking with this one till nexus 5 is out
Just my 2 cents
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I was thinking about returning it for the one which is smooth as hell
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I will tell you this...
I had both and the One is 10x more smooth. Thats why I felt let down with this phone. I have to shut off / freeze damn near everything to get acceptable performance out of it. I know in time Samsung will improve but I am dealing wiht the here and now...
surge27 said:
I have come from the note 2 as well and its unreal to realize the lag on this. Ive only froze the at&t bloat thinking it was enough but damn....its pretty bad.
Stock Note 2 smashes this. Im hoping if/when the bootloader gets unlocked, scrosler and other devs can make this GS4 into what its meant to be...a beastly device.
For now...its tolerable but its bad now because I expected more from a flagship phone.
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Thats what I am saying, stock Note II blows this away but the benchmarks are just the opposite.
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Hey Scrosler, loved your One X roms! As far as the lag goes, it does definitely seem that my S3 was faster. It's made it hell deciding on whether I should keep my S4 or HTC One, since I was going to originally take the One back. Aside from the stuff you probably did already, try disabling the lock screen animation as well as disabling the home button from accessing S Voice (double click the Home button, then go to settings to disable). These are the two things that seemed to have helped the most with lag issues. Still not perfect by any means, but it's much improved. Now if I could just do something about the damn keyboard lag..
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Yeah, I tweaked it pretty hard, minor stuff like build pror, caching, etc. Similiar to what I would do if I had a ROM built around it but... still..
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What about gaming. My girlfriend has the s4 and we did a head to head comparison of vice city and her one ran it smoother. That makes no sense to me.
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Yep, I am sure of it. I dont think Samsung has the experience in building with 4.2.2...
Jooosty said:
My wife is not experiencing any of this prolonged lag. Consider us lucky. Ours is pretty solid. The first time I did notice lag was while unlocking the phone with the "majestic twinkle" effect. It did it intermittently. Turned that effect off. Now unlocks smooth. Also turned off all transitions. Much better. Theres no stutters or lag spikes. Its pretty darn good. For a stock experience we are satisfied. If Scot does decide to develop for this phone I am confident it will be CleanRommed.
Comparing it to my Note 2 running cleanROM is totally unfair though
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Yeah, but you turned off the cool parts which I like. I always set my transistions to 50%, even in my ROMS but I wont turn them off. The twinkle affect should cause stutter after its done. I see lag just backing out of the Play Store to the desktop it will sometimes stutter. Not just the occasional lock screen lag in which I know you are referring to.
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Mines snappy idk what you guys are talking about!
Scott keep it! You leaving the One was a big reason why i switched, and a few of the other inconveniences that comes along with an HTC
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lol, I guess in a way I feel bad... But i never told anyone to buy the phone I do :crying:
I really dont know if I am going to keep this one. Its a whole differnt carrier, and a whole new line that I really dont need. And with the current level of performance its hard to justify keeping it.
This is why I started the thread. To see if it was me and my expectations or if the phone really is laggy.... And from the feedback, its laggy, its not just me.
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Ah I don't know what to do. I love this device but hate how we have to disable all types of things in order for it to perform right
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You took the words out of my mouth!!!
tosh1 said:
Scott I came from your awesome note 2 Cleanrom..please don't leave. Just needs a good developer to teak it a bit.
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raqball said:
Hope you stay Scott as I love your ROM's as well...
But I would not blame you one bit if you ditched it!
I am seriously debating selling mine ( I paid full price ) and picking up a Nexus 4 but will wait until Google i/o before deciding what to do..
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See. You too, huh?
iB4STiD said:
Same thing here I'm used to using my own ROMs, so there is that adjustment
But Scott as you know there is only so much that can be done with a ROM at the end of the day Samsung will have to adjust some things which then gives us a better base to work from, I'm sticking with this one till nexus 5 is out
Just my 2 cents
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Yes, I totally agree and I think its Samsung lack of experience with Snapdragon on 4.2.2.
I have Nexus 10 which is not as powerful as this phone but its a Sammy processor and there is ZERO lag with dual cores at 1.4 or is it 1.5 GHZ. And thats at nearly 4x the pixels that this has.
I was just expecting this thing to scream when I first got it...
Disable and android go hand and hand since the g1. My only problem with the os is the hardware needed to make this a smooth experince , a lot of work needs to be done with android. Its a great platform but nothing is perfect I guess
But hey android is getting better and better.
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how is moto g??
mention its plus and minus
and tell me ur opinion about this phone
thank you :laugh:
(For me)Its a nexus 4.5 with better battey life ?
You can read a few threads in this forum. There are several already. You didn't have to repeat this topic.
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Does the ROM made for single SIM variant works on the dual SIM model, I mean does the 1SIM work perfectly...atleast 1SIM should work properly!
For sure an upgrade from my Samsung Galaxy SII, Epic 4g Touch. Mostly the battery and the screen. The camera is honestly slightly worse, but I don't instagram my food so it's not a huge deal to me.
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+1 on this, I call it the motorola's nexus, I just love this phone, never been so happy about one
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abhirulz94 said:
Does the ROM made for single SIM variant works on the dual SIM model, I mean does the 1SIM work perfectly...atleast 1SIM should work properly!
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Yes, perfectly normal - as long as you're using it on the first sim slot. Doing it myself on mine.
Go for it dude. I got the XT1032 (single-SIM) for 16.5K a few weeks ago, because I was concerned a lot about dev. support. But, seems like you can go with the XT1033 as well as it seems to support most ROMs.
buy it, you wont be disapointed. just remember if you let it discharge completely and it wont turn on or recharge - keep the power button pressed until it turns on
Fantastic phone for the money. Feels like a Nexus, looks like one, performs like one. Great phone, **** 2G battery drain though lol.
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(For me)Its a nexus 4.5 with better battey life ?
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Alexmessy said:
+1 on this, I call it the motorola's nexus, I just love this phone, never been so happy about one
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Been loving this phone myself. The battery life is amazing on it, and it is pretty tough to kill it. Wish it was 32 instead of 16 gigs but no biggie.
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I call it the Nexus 5 Mini, its THAT good (especially considering the price tag)
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ehhhh
.Im personally very remorseful about buying the $99 Locked Bootloader Version, but the phone itself has been great.
Video Calls
Can we make video calls??
Pros
Screen is beautiful
Water resistant
Super fast no lags
No bloatware
Almost pure android experience
Its got 4.4
Amazing battery
High quality body better than any phone in this range
Con's
Camera is 5mp but that not big of an issue given the price
Battery charges a bit slow
The RAM is 1GB but haven't had any issues yet in playing any games or anything else
Opinion
Nexus 4.5
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I have moto g and I got the optimus g pro(New at atf is 333 bucks) while the g is a great phone the pro has been in my hands and I haven't even thought bout my g.
It depends on budget and what you need in a phone. I really enjoying have lte again and the pro has more bang for buck for another 100+ but if you need a unlocked phone then the g is your best bet.
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great phone phone for the price.i feel like i got more than what i paid (129$ @ boost mobile)
Finally meee tooo bought moto g
It having all what I expected
Really its worthy :thumbup:
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Can we make video calls??
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Yep front cam is there then why u are asking like this
New versions of android not havving direct option to call from dialler
U can call by using hangouts default app
Starting to look pretty grim for the S5 being exploited. I am a blue blood Samsung user. After the original Moto Drold it's all I've run. Gotta have root and ROMability though... Starting to think I'll be moving to the HTC One M8 ... I'll feel so ... so ... dirty !!!
Chopstix9 said:
Starting to look pretty grim for the S5 being exploited. I am a blue blood Samsung user. After the original Moto Drold it's all I've run. Gotta have root and ROMability though... Starting to think I'll be moving to the HTC One M8 ... I'll feel so ... so ... dirty !!!
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I hear ya, I've had the s5 for 2 weeks now and going through flash withdrawals. Just love the phone too much to go to HTC. I love Samsung like you do, hate HTC sense.
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I believe it's only looking grim because there's been very few public updates on the situation. There are currently talented devs working hard to try and make this happen.
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I believe it's only looking grim because there's been very few public updates on the situation. There are currently talented devs working hard to try and make this happen.
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^^ Likely due to all the bickering and digressions...
Understand the frustration cause there are no updates at all. That's just the nature of rooting I guess.
When the 4s was being jailbroken at least we would get periodic updates via Twitter.
Have no doubt the s5 will be rooted though. The devs here are extremely talented. And rooting gets done way quicker than jailbrakes so it's relatively a short time if you look at it that way.
My 2 cents.
Paid 2 bounties for the HTC one and I will pay this one too.
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I feel for you all too. Had a similar drought with the note 2. Not to boast, but I couldn't be happier with my choice with the m8. Loving the root and s off. Best of luck :good:
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I agree. I'm 100% happy with my choice of switching to the M8. Great phone.
I also want to switch to m8 but camera is not good with m8, I guess I just gonna stick little longer with s5.
I've had little issue adjusting to no root with the S5 and am quite happy with the purchase.
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I too, bit the bullet, and bought an M8. Which, except for the camera, I'm loving. Still keeping an eye out here, in hopes that the S5 finally gets cracked, but for now I can feed my flashing addiction, and cured my jones for a new phone.
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Understand the frustration cause there are no updates at all. That's just the nature of rooting I guess.
When the 4s was being jailbroken at least we would get periodic updates via Twitter.
Have no doubt the s5 will be rooted though. The devs here are extremely talented. And rooting gets done way quicker than jailbrakes so it's relatively a short time if you look at it that way.
My 2 cents.
Paid 2 bounties for the HTC one and I will pay this one too.
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I agree I think it is just a matter of time and patience for someone to figure it out. I can't switch to the m8 BC of the camera, the s5 camera is the best camera I have used on any device.
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spuniun said:
I've had little issue adjusting to no root with the S5 and am quite happy with the purchase.
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Same here, I'm totally happy with my S5. Yes root would be nice but I really dislike the M8. To me it's too long and clunky looking. Plus the camera isn't too good.
popkurn611 said:
I agree I think it is just a matter of time and patience for someone to figure it out. I can't switch to the m8 BC of the camera, the s5 camera is the best camera I have used on any device.
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I'm back LOL. I traded in the Note 3 last week for another S5 and I'm here to stay this time. Root will come sooner or later. The good side of not having root is the phone must be pretty secure. No one has to worry about Kingo or Vroot stealing info or spying. I agree, the camera is great on this phone. I was having a tough time taking good pictures of my black dog with the N3 but they come out nice with the S5.
Misterxtc said:
Same here, I'm totally happy with my S5. Yes root would be nice but I really dislike the M8. To me it's too long and clunky looking. Plus the camera isn't too good.
I'm back LOL. I traded in the Note 3 last week for another S5 and I'm here to stay this time. Root will come sooner or later. The good side of not having root is the phone must be pretty secure. No one has to worry about Kingo or Vroot stealing info or spying. I agree, the camera is great on this phone. I was having a tough time taking good pictures of my black dog with the N3 but they come out nice with the S5.
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Wow!!!! Haha that's awesome. Glad you are back on board!
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popkurn611 said:
Wow!!!! Haha that's awesome. Glad you are back on board!
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Yeah, I couldn't resist. My son picked up a S3 for Virgin Mobile the other day so I can still do some ROM making for him to keep me in the groove. No love loss for the N3 and the overstuffed pocket at all.
Misterxtc said:
Yeah, I couldn't resist. My son picked up a S3 for Virgin Mobile the other day so I can still do some ROM making for him to keep me in the groove. No love loss for the N3 and the overstuffed pocket at all.
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I agree, don't miss the size one damn bit! S3 is def a great device for flashing and ROM building.
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The S5 is pretty cool even without root. Yes root would be nice but actually I'm enjoying the break from backing up then flashing and finally restoring.... lol..guess I'm in rehab right now.
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I agree to everything above
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If you guys wanna enjoy the S5 even more while we wait for root, i HIGHLY recommend to try a Gear 2 or gear 2 Neo. Guys believe me when i say that it GREATLY enhances the S5 experience. It is such an awesome companion device and in my opinion its totally worth the $200 bucks.
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The S5 is pretty cool even without root. Yes root would be nice but actually I'm enjoying the break from backing up then flashing and finally restoring.... lol..guess I'm in rehab right now.
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That's their plan, to try and ween us off of flashing with progressively Tighter security
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Loving my tmobile S5 with root! Not a great deal of roms yet but they are coming soon
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Curious what everyone thinks about the new LG G3 and whether or not you'd trade your M8 in for it if you were within the 14 Day Return Window.
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Sense is too awesome to pass on.
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Breezer23 said:
Curious what everyone thinks about the new LG G3 and whether or not you'd trade your M8 in for it if you were within the 14 Day Return Window.
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G3 is cool, but it won't have the same feel, definitely not as smooth as the m8.
Pros:
Better screen
Less bezel
Lighter
Better rear camera
Cons:
Worse battery life
Phone gets too hot faster
Stupid rear buttons
Worse front facing camera
Not as fast as sense
That's at least what I've been reading, I wouldn't switch. And who knows if it'll have an unlocked bootloader.
I agree!!
If the G3 were to get rooted and bootloader unlocked, I might consider it. Otherwise, no chance.
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G3 is cool, but it won't have the same feel, definitely not as smooth as the m8.
Pros:
Better screen
Less bezel
Lighter
Better rear camera
Cons:
Worse battery life
Phone gets too hot faster
Stupid rear buttons
Worse front facing camera
Not as fast as sense
That's at least what I've been reading, I wouldn't switch. And who knows if it'll have an unlocked bootloader.
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That "better" screen on the G3 is actually the cause of most of the cons you listed. It kills the battery and causes the phone to lag from the extra work it has to do to render it. The general consensus seems to be that the screen is actually the biggest fault in the phone, and a good 1080p screen could have made it perfect.
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Yeah. Not sure what the need is for such a high res screen on a cell phone.
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Breezer23 said:
Yeah. Not sure what the need is for such a high res screen on a cell phone.
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I said the same about the 1080 screen, here I am now . The G3 screen is absolutely gorgeous.
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TheBiles said:
That "better" screen on the G3 is actually the cause of most of the cons you listed. It kills the battery and causes the phone to lag from the extra work it has to do to render it. The general consensus seems to be that the screen is actually the biggest fault in the phone, and a good 1080p screen could have made it perfect.
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That was something I was aware of, power hungry screen = hot phone, less battery. Definitely not needed, but the resolution is a huge selling point for them. They wouldn't be able to get as many sales with the same quality screen as the S5 or M8. Samsung would wipe them clear off the map.
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That was something I was aware of, power hungry screen = hot phone, less battery. Definitely not needed, but the resolution is a huge selling point for them. They wouldn't be able to get as many sales with the same quality screen as the S5 or M8. Samsung would wipe them clear off the map.
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That's pretty bad if you get wiped off the map by samsung. Haha. Only thing good at Samsung r there TV's. ?
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Sorry to go off topic. But I seen that Sony has unlockable bootloaders rt thru there own site...I wonder if VZW has enough pull with Sony like HTC to force sony to not allow VZW Sony devices to be unlocked ...as I seen that new Sony pad coming to VZW an I must say Sony ui is very nice an real fast an smooth. Does anyone know?
Also because you can Now as of yesterday use the edge to get pads from VZW..
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Tigerstown said:
That's pretty bad if you get wiped off the map by samsung. Haha. Only thing good at Samsung r there TV's.
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You do realize Samsung Android devices account for the majority of all Android devices? Which is unfortunate, because they suck, but saying "You suck if you got beat by Samsung" is pretty inane.
A buddy just got the T-Mobile LG3 and we ran some benchmarks. Granted, this phone is 100% stock and I'm running GPE (not OC'd) on the M8 but he scored 22100 in Quad and I scored 24500. He scored 32000 in Antu and I scored 34000.
The LG3 is just a little too big for my taste. I have never owned an LG phone but my M7 was my first HTC. Was all Samsung before that. I'm sticking with my M8 until the M9 comes out and has S-Off.
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You do realize Samsung Android devices account for the majority of all Android devices? Which is unfortunate, because they suck, but saying "You suck if you got beat by Samsung" is pretty inane.
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Walk into a bs phone company pre paid. The shelves r full of low end Samsung devices that r a joke for only 50bucks or less. Makes sense they have majority off andriod devices.
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Walk into a bs phone company pre paid. The shelves r full of low end Samsung devices that r a joke for only 50bucks or less. Makes sense they have majority off andriod devices.
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Some people can't afford high end smart phones
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Yeah well, Samsung sells millions and millions of those cheap, crappy phones per year.
Clearly there is a market for them.
Tigerstown said:
Walk into a bs phone company pre paid. The shelves r full of low end Samsung devices that r a joke for only 50bucks or less. Makes sense they have majority off andriod devices.
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A lot of the phones you can buy from the pre-paid carriers are cheap...what's your point? Not everyone can shell out $300 for a brand new phone. My cousin just bought a S3 because that's all he could afford (free being what he could afford).
BadUsername said:
G3 is cool, but it won't have the same feel, definitely not as smooth as the m8.
Pros:
Better screen
Less bezel
Lighter
Better rear camera
Cons:
Worse battery life
Phone gets too hot faster
Stupid rear buttons
Worse front facing camera
Not as fast as sense
That's at least what I've been reading, I wouldn't switch. And who knows if it'll have an unlocked bootloader.
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Exactly, also the enhanced screen has not been taken advantage of.
I've had the m8 since launch and while I think its the smoothest phone ever made and is unlocked the wasted realestate just kills me. I can't wait to get the g3 on Thursday
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sfreemanoh said:
A lot of the phones you can buy from the pre-paid carriers are cheap...what's your point? Not everyone can shell out $300 for a brand new phone. My cousin just bought a S3 because that's all he could afford (free being what he could afford).
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My point is if u flood the market with tons of devices for free of course your going to have the most out there active in the market..as most people can't afford a high end phone an the government isn't buying them one of those.
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My point is if u flood the market with tons of devices for free of course your going to have the most out there active in the market..as most people can't afford a high end phone an the government isn't buying them one of those.
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about how people bash Samsung for making "cheap low cost" phones when there's a market for them as not everyone has the resources to shell out hundreds of dollars on a phone.
I applaud Samsung for reaching out to all types of consumers.
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My phone is due upgrade next week so been looking at what's about currently...
Really unsure what to go for but possibly thinking the Z5... What do people think? Any other suggestions?
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Ben36 said:
My phone is due upgrade next week so been looking at what's about currently...
Really unsure what to go for but possibly thinking the Z5... What do people think? Any other suggestions?
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Xperia Z5 seems to be a really good option and seems to beat N5X in almost every department.
But if I were you I would still go for N5X. The UI fluidity and development offered on Nexus lineup is unbeatable.
Also for a poweruser the revised 810 chipset might suffer heating issues but 808 chipset has absolutely no complaints yet.
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See... I love the spec of the Z5 but there's a lot of bad reviews about for its camera, which is supposed to be one of its main features! I don't play games on my phone so heat would never be an issue regardless.
But the 5X doesn't really seem much of an upgrade from the 5 from what I'm seeing. But i do love my Nexus 5 on how fast it always is
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Ben36 said:
See... I love the spec of the Z5 but there's a lot of bad reviews about for its camera, which is supposed to be one of its main features! I don't play games on my phone so heat would never be an issue regardless.
But the 5X doesn't really seem much of an upgrade from the 5 from what I'm seeing. But i do love my Nexus 5 on how fast it always is
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I totally agree with 5X not seeming to be that huge an upgrade. But if Z5 suffers from bad camera then that defies the primary reason to switch to Xperia. So why not consider a different option altogether OnePlus Two?
(IMHO I wouldn't switch to OP2 but it's a good phone from what I hear)
I would keep N5 till thanksgiving or later till I get a good deal on N6P. Hopefully by that time N6P reviews would shed light on how its metal body holds up with the 810.
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Wasn't the z5 ranked best mobile camera? I thought it had a great camera.
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It does, however, first batch of production suffers from a manufacturing flaw whereby the left edge of photos is blurred out compared to the right edge. Once this is corrected, it will be a fantastic camera. I'm really hoping my second Z5C doesn't have the camera issue, just sent my first one back for an exchange.
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It does, however, first batch of production suffers from a manufacturing flaw whereby the left edge of photos is blurred out compared to the right edge. Once this is corrected, it will be a fantastic camera. I'm really hoping my second Z5C doesn't have the camera issue, just sent my first one back for an exchange.
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Does this apply to the z5 not the z5c as well? Also I think the op was referring to the full sized version. But thanks for the heads up!
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Does this apply to the z5 not the z5c as well? Also I think the op was referring to the full sized version. But thanks for the heads up!
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Yes. Both. There are reports from users on these forums with the regular Z5 with the problem.
I wouldn't want the OP2 cus it's poo cm based
Think it's worth waiting for a newer version of the Z5? Think they'll make one or it'll just be software update?
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Ben36 said:
I wouldn't want the OP2 cus it's poo cm based
Think it's worth waiting for a newer version of the Z5? Think they'll make one or it'll just be software update?
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I'm sure it'll be fixed, it's just a question of how long. It's worth noting that not everyone's Z5s have the issue, it's not affecting all units, just some of them (it's a lottery currently).
It's like there's currently no phones out there worth actually upgrading to. Seems to be more and more bad reviews on the Z5 which is such a shame
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Reviews I've read have been positive:
https://www.androidpit.com/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1404027/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_compact-review-1318.php
http://www.alphr.com/sony/1001448/sony-xperia-z5-review-sony-gets-it-spot-on
I got the Z5. I'm happy with it! Still got my N5 as a backup, but daily is the Z5. Stuck it in the sink, it's sooo weird putting a phone into water lol. It goes against anything you know
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