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New 1000 mAh standard size battery from Mugen

Touch Diamond will be equiped with 1000 mAh battery without sacrificing the shape, size and impression of using extended battery.

That's great, although the capacity isn't that much higher than the original....
Release date?

100 ???
will that really make a real diffrance????

The Mugen webpage tells release date is end of August. There might have not much difference between the OEM 900 mAh with this 1000 mAh, but it is good that Mugen can enhance the battery by this 100 mAh. User can still choose to buy OEM extended battery which has 440 mAh more but has to use another cover with extended size.

you guys say its not that much - but its an 11% increase! which if your battery lasts 24 hours now - this new one will be an extra 2 and a half hours - its up to you guys if its worth it - im considering it!

angler said:
Touch Diamond will be equiped with 1000 mAh battery without sacrificing the shape, size and impression of using extended battery.
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I'm not too impressed with the lifetime of the Mugen batteries. I've had two in different PDA's and I've experienced short lifetimes.

not as short as the life in my diamond battery!

Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.

sounds more like it! 22% increase! woo!

jimmeh1988 said:
not as short as the life in my diamond battery!
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I'm talking lifetime not discharge time.

salada2k said:
Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
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I wonder of its lifetime - some of my rechargable 2500 mAh last shorter than those of 2000 mAh running the exact same device after a few usages. Let's hear the experience once you have tried it.

No probs - if they ever release it... They said end of July, so I guess we can expect it any day now.

salada2k said:
Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
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Well, there is an OEM sized battery on Siedos site now, but it is only 1000 mAh.

In europe the diamond have a 900mAH so 1000mAH doesn't give more. Perhaps 1 or 2 hours in stand by ?

losdrivare said:
Well, there is an OEM sized battery on Siedos site now, but it is only 1000 mAh.
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I know - what a shame....

It's a shame the promised capacity hasn't appeared, but the 11% increase will certainly help me. With the original to carry as a spare I doubt I'll have to change often, but atleast I'll have the option.
As far as the HTC delay is concerned, I have a feeling they may surprise us, with an original sized extended capacity. Their theme is 'innovation' afteral, and there have been some interesting developments in Lion batteries recently. They have the punch to make investments in the right place. I'm holding out hope anyway lol.

I found a 1050mAh battery
Hey guys, I just fund this on amazon.de. It looks to be standard size.
http://www.amazon.de/1050mAh-Li-Ion-Diamond-T-Mobile-Compact/dp/B001GZKANU
I just ordered one. I've had good experiences so far with the seller. I'll report back once I get it.

dctech said:
I just ordered one. I've had good experiences so far with the seller. I'll report back once I get it.
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I am waiting for a review anyway it seems that the price is too low for a good battery...

chryss2k said:
I am waiting for a review anyway it seems that the price is too low for a good battery...
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There is one little issue with these kind of batteries, they may catch fire if not properly designed and for the phone. I the east you get batteries rated from A to AAA depending on how good they are and the risk. It doesn't happen often but make sure your phone is ventilated (not put on a carpet or covered) while recharging over night

Do you believe what capacity they print on that battery??? I wouldn't unless someone test it. I used to work with Cadex battery analyzer and believe me, there are so many lies on batteries even brand new ones as GP, Energizer, etc. Consider buying it...
You better buy this one for 7USD with worldwide free shipping:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15620

3000 vs 3500 MAH, which one?

Wondering which battery to get of them two, I've read some users saying that the 3500M battery is actually smaller than the 3000M which would indicitate it has less capacity? They've also said that it doesn't live up to the rated capacity in terms of usage time. I'm leaning toward the 3000M battery as it seems to have a better reputation. I also don't really want to spend more than ~$15 on the new battery.
Also, which one has a better feel to it with the cover?

I was bought this one http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...rtmentProductId/42252157/shopGroupId/46205854
from renomierung distributer (know from many pasts ordering), and im very,very satisfacted.
Regards

Any picture of a battery that size in the sgs?

Hvala Miro. It's a bit expensive though.
I was thinking of one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3000mAh-Exte...Accessories&hash=item5add807a84#ht_4261wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3500M-EXTEND...Accessories&hash=item4aa5e7292d#ht_1727wt_905

none of those batteries really offer the advertized capacities, probably the 3500 will give you a few hours more than the 3000 but expect them to be like 75% or less of their real rated capacity.

Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?

au_stevo said:
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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My battery is like on yor first link for ebay.
I can tell you:
With original SGS battery i have 1 day to 1,5 day battery life (im relativ middle to stronger user,GPRS,GPS,3G,etc. But with this 3000 mAh battery i have last about 4-5 days. SGS is doble dicker from original,but i have no care if i go on shorter travel without charger
Pozdrav
Best regards

are the batteries sold for I9000 usable for samsung vibrant?

Pickup the quality: Mugen I couldn't submit a link since im new

au_stevo said:
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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I purchased both from e-cell in UK. They look pretty much identical, the 3500 one has label only on one side and it's a little thinner. But they are higher capacity than the stock one, about twice the capacity.
Doing my usual test while communting on metro and train, reading news with screen at minimum brightness, with the standard battery I usually lose 20% in 1 hour, with the big battery I lose 10%.
The back cover is a little too big and there's a space between the battery and the cover, so it moves, I had to fill the gap with a piece of paper.

@vcespon
You have a 3000mAh and a 3500mAh battery?
Do you have now more experience in the differences?
Is here a owner of a 3000mAh Yoobao Accu?
It seems Yoobao is a "quality label"?!?
A comparison of budget 3500mAh and budget 3000mAh and Yoobao 3000mAh would very interesting.
Specifically, the running time for the same use (eg video loop).
The Yoobao battery costs three times more as the cheapest noname battery.
€7, the chepeast 3500mAh battery and €21 for the 3000mAh Yoobao.
Is the desk stand the only difference?

Extended battery with original battery cover?

Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.

mgbotoe said:
Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.
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How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.

Joey2o11 said:
How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.
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Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete

mgbotoe said:
Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete
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which one did u get?

Any of those batteries claiming to be high capacity yet OEM sized are probably dangerous (Google cheap lithium batteries) and nowhere near the capacity they claim. If you want to risk your expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap nasty battery that could explode go for it.....

Yes, what Joey2o11 said is correct. A battery that's the same size as the factory battery will have the same, or less, mah as the factory battery. Any company claiming their factory-sized battery has more mah is simply lying so they'll sell more batteries. You can read where many different unaffiliated companies test batteries from manufacturers and 3rd parties, and you'll see the results are always the same. Bottom line - if you want more mah, you'll need a bigger battery.
Also, you made a thread asking the community to share info about batteries. So when you found one to purchase you should have shared your findings with the community, not asked a moderator to close the thread. XDA is all about sharing information with the community, not keeping it to yourself...

Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.

twe69 said:
Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.
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So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?

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So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?
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I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.

twe69 said:
I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.
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That phone was never the "in" phone and anyone who thinks any cheap chinese third party battery is gonna compare to a stock oem battery is delusional. They are expensive for a reason, even after you trim off the excessive markup.

That sums things up nicely

If there was a way for extra mAh to be crammed into the same space, Samsung would've done it themselves. And even if there was a way and some other company made such batteries, the production costs would be through the roof, so the retail price would reflect that.
The best you can expect from a cheap battery is to be on par with the OEM (although unlikely), but it's simply unrealistic to expect it to be better.

[Q] Looking for high capacity battery for N4 - Is this ok?

Hi Guys,
I've using the N4 for last 2 years here in India and I personally felt it is a great device in terms of build quality, screen size and looks and only downside I can see is the poor screen on time (SOT) or battery backup on stock battery.
Now my battery has almost died and need to replace it. While searching on AliExpress, there is a 3200 mAh capacity battery available for Nexus 4, though there is no review available. Though I can buy the original battery from eBay or ALiexpress, this high capacity battery looks very tempting to me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...attery-for-LG-E960-E975-E973/32306624153.html
Can you guys take a look and suggest me if it is okay yo go ahead with this one or I should stick with original battery capacity of 2100 mAh.
Your suggestion would be highly appreciated, and thanks in advance.

I've been thinking lately to replace mine too..
You should give it a.go and tell us results! It's a shame I can't order from aliexpress.

I doubt that you will be able to get a replacement battery (li-ion) that has the same physical dimensions, higher capacity and a lower price.
When things sounds to good to be true, it often is
I think you'll get a cheap battery with - at best - the same capacity as an original battery.
I would go for an original battery.

to_sukanta said:
Hi Guys,
I've using the N4 for last 2 years here in India and I personally felt it is a great device in terms of build quality, screen size and looks and only downside I can see is the poor screen on time (SOT) or battery backup on stock battery.
Now my battery has almost died and need to replace it. While searching on AliExpress, there is a 3200 mAh capacity battery available for Nexus 4, though there is no review available. Though I can buy the original battery from eBay or ALiexpress, this high capacity battery looks very tempting to me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...attery-for-LG-E960-E975-E973/32306624153.html
Can you guys take a look and suggest me if it is okay yo go ahead with this one or I should stick with original battery capacity of 2100 mAh.
Your suggestion would be highly appreciated, and thanks in advance.
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You can't squeeze more capacity into the same volume - that said, there are some battery manufacturers who can get an extra 10% or so. I remember buying one from a very reputable company in Switzerland several years ago for a phone, but I can't recall their name
So either them, if you can track them down, or an original battery. Stay away from batteries which promise enormous amounts of mah, or are just very cheap. The original is not a bad option since realistically the phone has a remaining life of a couple of years max.
Another very good option is to buy an external pack. For example a 5000mah pack occupies the same volume and weighs the same as a phone, and will provide plenty of spare capacity without adding weight or bulk to the phone (unless when you are using it, otherwise it can sit in a bag). NewTrent is a good brand, as is Xiaomi, good offers on Amazon.
(I got myself a Xiaomi 10,000mah battery pack which is technically really good but just too heavy and bulky)

That's fake, it's still 2100mAh, you can't squeeze more mAh from same size.

Thanks all for your helpful suggestion.
However I used a mobile long back from Nokia where I used a replacement battery from Nokia itself with same dimension but it used to provide extra battery backup. So my wild guess is technically it is possible to get 2500mah probably. If that is the case then also enough for my current 2yrs old battery is giving me around 2-2.5hrs of battery backup and don't want to plugin the power bank in my mobile (though I've xiaomi one in my home)

Another vote for "physics > spiel". You simply cannot get more mAH from the same dimensions. For the fella above who says he got more out of a replacement Nokia, it's entirely possible that the improvement in battery life was merely down to the age of the battery, as in, the one he was used to was tired and running out of charge cycles.

You can squeeze a little more power in the cell , these come highly recommended but not cheap.

to_sukanta said:
Thanks all for your helpful suggestion.
However I used a mobile long back from Nokia where I used a replacement battery from Nokia itself with same dimension but it used to provide extra battery backup. So my wild guess is technically it is possible to get 2500mah probably. If that is the case then also enough for my current 2yrs old battery is giving me around 2-2.5hrs of battery backup and don't want to plugin the power bank in my mobile (though I've xiaomi one in my home)
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Don't forget that it is possible for manufacturers to stack batteries and make them bigger (thicker). Nexus 4's non-removable back (glass!), fragile design make this impossible. I remember seeing a 6200mAh battery for my old Note 2, but you needed to use a custom back cover because of the added thickness. But the point is battery capacity is limited by it's density, so the only way to make a larger capacity battery is to make it bigger. Until we get some new battery technology with different density like graphite or whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-Uwmn2pCg

Note 8 battery in S7?

I tried to buy a supposedly genuine s7 battery from replacebase here in the UK, but it seems to last even less than my old, used battery.
After a couple weeks of using it, AccuBattery is reporting the capacity as 1800mAh, rather than the 3000 design capacity, so something is clearly not right.
While looking for genuine replacement batteries, I also wanted to see if there's any batteries available that are higher capacity than the default 3000mAh. The only one I could see is made by Polarcell, a german firm, and comes in at 3200mAh in the same size. It has good reviews so I would assume the capacity is genuine.
From a few xda posts like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/themes/note-7-note-8-battery-t3706904 it seems like the note 8 battery is also about the same size as the one in the s7, while having 3300mAh (10% higher capacity)
I was wondering if anyone has tried to fit a note 8 battery in their s7. Might give it a go if nobody has tried yet