Hello,
While searching for a stable ROM for my "Samsung Galaxy S2 9.7" tablet (because I don't like TouchWiz) I got an idea. Instead of building a full custom ROM for the tablet, with all the bugs/repairs to go with it. Wouldn't it be easier (in my case) to just take the stock Samsung ROM and replace the UI only? I mean could the stock Samsung TouchWiz ROM files be replaced with the stock Android version of files? (e.g. System UI and/or UI framework)
This with the end result of having a already working stable ROM and there by minimizing the bug fixing to just the UI. I'm wondering, is this a stupid idea because this basically requires to rewrite the whole ROM or? I'm willing to study for Android development and develop this myself if it is worth it. (I don't have any experience with Android development but I do have experience with programming in general)
I know it is possible to replace the launcher and/or delete the stock apps, but the notification area and the settings app would still be TouchWiz. I would like to replace this also.
Thanks in advance,
Feonx
Why would you replace the stock ui, when you can get an entire new (and better) ROM with a different ui out there, I personally use CM12.1 which uses the Trebuchet Ui and it made my 4.2.2 android version into a 5.1.1. CM along with other ROMs out there come with some pretty great customisations that you can't get in a stock ROM (even rooted). But if you really want to develop or look for that specific type of ROM out there then go ahead and good luck.
Using CM12.1 on my SGH-T999
Thanks for your response AlienDrew!
Well the basic reason I want this is because CM 12 versions take a while before it is stable. My experience with custom ROMs is that it can be buggy or the ROM is a phone type of ROM on a tablet. I don't see the need for the whole ROM to be replaced if the "core" of Samsung is stable enough. All the work on making the ROM specifically for the hardware needs to be redone if CM is building it. I think Samsung is doing good work for optimizing the experience like for example the battery consumption.
I guess it would be very time consuming to do this. With my idea in mind, Samsung does the core maintenance and the only maintenance left to do (for CM or myself) is the UI witch would be much less work. I would really like to know a Android developers view on this.
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Soo.. I know the title isn't very specific.. but I would like to throw a question in here and get some responses..
So.. WHAT excatly is MIUI compared to other ROMs?
To me, MIUI is "just" plain (AOSP?) Android with every single "GO"-App available. GO Launcher, GO SMS.. and so on.
So.. what does MIUI exactly have, that e.g. CM with every app changed to some GO-App doesn't have?
MIUI is skinned to kinda "copy" Iphone-style..sure.. but is that really all?
Benchmarks show there are some differences..
So I wonder what's left of MIUI if you install a MIUI based ROM and change any GO-App to another one?
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'Cause most ppl say they love MIUI for how it looks like. But honestly.. I could also use stock Android with e.g. Motoblur and change the launcher and so on.. so why going through the hassle to root and install a completely new ROM?
Ty everyone
And yes, I used the search, but didn't find anything relevant.. maybe because "MIUI" & "GO" are a liiiiittle bit vague
We need to know the history. MIUI just want to be like IOS, but in the Android enviroment. AOSP is just a plain OS, CM was loaded witb tons of tweaks but the UI not that eyecandy. HTC? Good but too dark to be like IOS and bloated. So MIUI with the UI mimic IOS with slight modification came. For me it is another CM with the stress more on UI.
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Wasn't the first MIUI ROM was found accidently? IIRC, the dev passed away and his work was found and released. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?
dEris said:
Wasn't the first MIUI ROM was found accidently? IIRC, the dev passed away and his work was found and released. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?
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A renaissance artist perhaps? MIUI is developed by a Chinese team and someone came across it and started translating it.
There's plenty of info and screenshots etc. over at http://www.miui-dev.com which is the site run by the translating team.
Essentially it does largely look to be making Android more iOS-like. It's based on FroYo AOSP (Gingerbread soon) but with a _lot_ of alterations. It shares a little bit of code with CM as far as the addins.
In my opinion MIUI is the first Android Distro because it proposes a completely different way of Android where other ROMs are just forks.
Miui is the simple face of ios with the power of android.
sent from my MIUI HTC HD2
MIUI has the most powerful and easiest theme engine..I really wish it was open source so others could use the theme engine..Its really that nice and simple to use..such a shame..
MIUI is so much better then stock android:
here's a list of apps that avalible only on miui:
Monitor (let you block apps and see how much data you have used)
Theme manager (no more zip's, really easy to theme stuff)
Better mms app
file mamanger
Miui gallery and camera
miui music
special lockscreen - much better the stock
folders - better the stock
quick settings on the notification bar
better phone app
easier to use setting's
miui wheater (avalible for all now)
some widgets like conatcs and etc...
if you chineese you can use the update app which auto update your phone to the latest version.
battery monitor
and much more that I might forgot
I'll go ahead and toss my two cents in...
Simple version-- I rooted my phone about 6 weeks ago, I flashed several roms in the first two days. (Cyanogen, Mikfroyo, Myns) Then I flashed MIUI. That was the last time I flashed a rom...
(If you want to know more, PM me and I'll give you the L O N G version of why MIUI is the best in my opinion)
Not a single one of the "GO" apps I've heard of including the two your mentioned are a part of MIUI. The post above me outlines a lot of the features but there is also so much more. I just discovered a feature the other day I never realized was there.
Try it, if you don't like it, NANDROID!! Make sure to grab yourself a few themes off of the MIUI forum. Again, I've installed one theme since I flashed MIUI ignoring the other 100 simply because what I have, Elite HD by bustadroid, is the best damn theme (period)
I just started to use Miui Camera for my Milestone today. Awesome fast!
Maybe can someone compile a list of Miui's apps and post links here?
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MIUI has the most powerful and easiest theme engine..I really wish it was open source so others could use the theme engine..Its really that nice and simple to use..such a shame..
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MIUI isn't open source?? Why the heck did they do that? :-/
My favorite rom so far is [ROM]AllianceROM_JB XXLSZ_v3_|_Evolution_of_TW_Custom_ROMs_| DPI switch online. But its only supported on gt-n7000 galaxy note. I have a att galaxy note i717. Is there a way that someone can port this rom to i717 phone.
I'm curious to how this alliance rom can support stock touchwiz apps like s note and s memo and Samsung apps on a aokp rom? I not sure if the rom is aokp, aosp, cm rom. I just know it looks like a galaxy nexus rom. So how do these stock apps run on a galaxy nexus looking rom?
Are there any roms that can support touchwiz stock apps on a jb galaxy nexus looking rom for i717? I just simply want my phone to look like jb nexus (with the cool notifications) but support smemo, s note, Samsung apps, etc on my i717.
Thanks! Really appreciated, I've been waiting for a rom like this.
If you just care about looks, why not just use a launcher like Apex or Nova ? If you want more after that, consider a ROM.
I don't know anything about the ROM you're talking about but from what I can see it appears to be a TW-based ROM - thus the stock apps will work.
I'm using a TW-based ROM on my S3 and stock apps can work along with other native TW features. But if all you care about is the look you would probably need a launcher, anyway - so I'd start with that and then see what you want to change from there.
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If you just care about looks, why not just use a launcher like Apex or Nova ? If you want more after that, consider a ROM.
I don't know anything about the ROM you're talking about but from what I can see it appears to be a TW-based ROM - thus the stock apps will work.
I'm using a TW-based ROM on my S3 and stock apps can work along with other native TW features. But if all you care about is the look you would probably need a launcher, anyway - so I'd start with that and then see what you want to change from there.
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Thanks alto. I want a little more than just the look. I want the toggles and contacts in the notification center, custom toggles and lock screen, pretty much the jelly bean features. I like the contacts, message, and phone layout on the nexus. I see that aosp, cm, and aokp have that layout. You know any good roms that have what I'm describing but still support s-note, s memo, and Samsung apps? Thanks in advance!
Hi all,
I am contemplating changing my 18month old Nexus 5 for a S6 Edge.
I have used Samsung phones in the past but always ended up flashing stock Android ROM as I couldn't stand the replacement Samsung apps.
My question is, is touchwiz now on par with the stock Androis (Nexus) functionalities?
I am aware that we can simply replace the launcher for Google Now Launcher however how do the core apps compare with the stock ones?
Now with Google putting most of their apps in the Play Store we could essentially replace most of the Samsung apps but:
Does the phone dialer support the telephone number lookup available in the Nexus range (look for a business name to resolve a number, same for incoming calls)?
Does Touchwiz lockscreen support the latest option of smartlock (trusted places and trusted devices) ?
How does Touchwiz manage the notification modes of the stock Android (none/priority/all) and can we schedule a DND time for the night ?
How do the lockscreen notifications appear compare to stock Android ?
I haven't been able to find good screenshots of all the menus present in the S6 to compare the functionalities.
1. No
2. Yes
3. It supports all those modes
4. Similar to stock android depending on what
mhhh ok, sounds like the Samsung customisation still isn't as good.
If running a custom ROM such as CM then you lose the great Samsung camera and the Exynos optimisations and staying with stock Samsung ROM you lose some of the basic stock Android features, there is never a perfect system is there ?!
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mhhh ok, sounds like the Samsung customisation still isn't as good.
If running a custom ROM such as CM then you lose the great Samsung camera and the Exynos optimisations and staying with stock Samsung ROM you lose some of the basic stock Android features, there is never a perfect system is there ?!
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Samsung has cut down TouchWiz a lot this time around though. The phone is actually fast now.
Hi guys,
I have question:
Why any developer doesn't ported any ROM like Sense 7 ? Beacuse I think that there are like 10 ROMs with same features and looking the same stock Android. I tested all the ROMs available and I don't found any unqiue outstanding features. Without gapps all the ROMs have the same performance and the same stock apps execpt CM but there are just stock modified with little features compard with Sense 7 or touchwiz. I know that you will say that Sense 7 has bloatware but isn't to much to slow down the phone or anything and some options from Sense 7 are useful and more beautiful apps than stock google apps like browser (heavy), or music, dialer, contacts etc... and I know that you will say why I don't make a port: the answer is simple: I don't know how. I don't have any knowledge about how porting works or anything even with tutorials.
So, I am asking if any developer/ users will be interested to install/port Sense 7 or another OEM software to our Moto G.
If this post is useless you can close and delete it
Thanks !
Here is one project that has stalled unfortunately.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/request-to-devs-t3104321
We all know Android devices run some version of an Android OS (Insert version number here), regardless what proprietary version it happens to be from whatever manufacturer made said device. But people on Google+ were arguing with me that TouchWiz isn't the launcher on Samsung devices, because when you switch launchers it still displays TouchWiz menus in settings & via the notification pull down window.. like TouchWiz is also the OS, when it's just Samsung's launcher running on their OEM version of the Android OS not getting that the ROM used on any Samsung device is just Samsung's proprietary version of whichever Android OS version it happens to be. Am I wrong in my deduction & logic? Thanks in advance for your replies, regardless if I'm right or not.
Hi,
TouchWiz is a launcher, but it's also the framework. No matter what launcher you install, it's still running in the TouchWiz framework... Hence the settings and what not looking the same.
The only way to change that is installing an AOSP or Cm based rom. Then TouchWiz framework and launcher are gone.
That make sense?
The firmware is Samsung's proprietary version of the Android OS. TouchWiz is not an OS & is often mistakenly thought to be so, per the TouchWiz wiki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchWiz Already answered my own question days ago. Thanks tho!
Yet your thread is less than 24 hours old here...
But glad you got it sorted. :good:
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