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[Q] What about MIUI?

Soo.. I know the title isn't very specific.. but I would like to throw a question in here and get some responses..
So.. WHAT excatly is MIUI compared to other ROMs?
To me, MIUI is "just" plain (AOSP?) Android with every single "GO"-App available. GO Launcher, GO SMS.. and so on.
So.. what does MIUI exactly have, that e.g. CM with every app changed to some GO-App doesn't have?
MIUI is skinned to kinda "copy" Iphone-style..sure.. but is that really all?
Benchmarks show there are some differences..
So I wonder what's left of MIUI if you install a MIUI based ROM and change any GO-App to another one?
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'Cause most ppl say they love MIUI for how it looks like. But honestly.. I could also use stock Android with e.g. Motoblur and change the launcher and so on.. so why going through the hassle to root and install a completely new ROM?
Ty everyone
And yes, I used the search, but didn't find anything relevant.. maybe because "MIUI" & "GO" are a liiiiittle bit vague

We need to know the history. MIUI just want to be like IOS, but in the Android enviroment. AOSP is just a plain OS, CM was loaded witb tons of tweaks but the UI not that eyecandy. HTC? Good but too dark to be like IOS and bloated. So MIUI with the UI mimic IOS with slight modification came. For me it is another CM with the stress more on UI.
Sent from my E15i using XDA App.
Ps sorry for bad English

Wasn't the first MIUI ROM was found accidently? IIRC, the dev passed away and his work was found and released. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

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Wasn't the first MIUI ROM was found accidently? IIRC, the dev passed away and his work was found and released. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?
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A renaissance artist perhaps? MIUI is developed by a Chinese team and someone came across it and started translating it.
There's plenty of info and screenshots etc. over at http://www.miui-dev.com which is the site run by the translating team.
Essentially it does largely look to be making Android more iOS-like. It's based on FroYo AOSP (Gingerbread soon) but with a _lot_ of alterations. It shares a little bit of code with CM as far as the addins.

In my opinion MIUI is the first Android Distro because it proposes a completely different way of Android where other ROMs are just forks.

Miui is the simple face of ios with the power of android.
sent from my MIUI HTC HD2

MIUI has the most powerful and easiest theme engine..I really wish it was open source so others could use the theme engine..Its really that nice and simple to use..such a shame..

MIUI is so much better then stock android:
here's a list of apps that avalible only on miui:
Monitor (let you block apps and see how much data you have used)
Theme manager (no more zip's, really easy to theme stuff)
Better mms app
file mamanger
Miui gallery and camera
miui music
special lockscreen - much better the stock
folders - better the stock
quick settings on the notification bar
better phone app
easier to use setting's
miui wheater (avalible for all now)
some widgets like conatcs and etc...
if you chineese you can use the update app which auto update your phone to the latest version.
battery monitor
and much more that I might forgot

I'll go ahead and toss my two cents in...
Simple version-- I rooted my phone about 6 weeks ago, I flashed several roms in the first two days. (Cyanogen, Mikfroyo, Myns) Then I flashed MIUI. That was the last time I flashed a rom...
(If you want to know more, PM me and I'll give you the L O N G version of why MIUI is the best in my opinion)
Not a single one of the "GO" apps I've heard of including the two your mentioned are a part of MIUI. The post above me outlines a lot of the features but there is also so much more. I just discovered a feature the other day I never realized was there.
Try it, if you don't like it, NANDROID!! Make sure to grab yourself a few themes off of the MIUI forum. Again, I've installed one theme since I flashed MIUI ignoring the other 100 simply because what I have, Elite HD by bustadroid, is the best damn theme (period)

I just started to use Miui Camera for my Milestone today. Awesome fast!
Maybe can someone compile a list of Miui's apps and post links here?

MrDSL said:
MIUI has the most powerful and easiest theme engine..I really wish it was open source so others could use the theme engine..Its really that nice and simple to use..such a shame..
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MIUI isn't open source?? Why the heck did they do that? :-/

[Q] Help with HTC Notes and Tasks ICS apps

dudes and dudettes,
I tried out one of the Sense ICS ROMS (ARHD 5.0.2) and while aspects of it were great, at the moment (due to kernel development) it's a lot slower than the Gingerbread ROMs available.
However, I really loved the HTC ICS "Notes" and "Tasks" apps.
My questions,
1. Is it possible to run these apps on Gingerbread? Obviously the widgets couldn't really be integrated with a current ROM without recooking the whole thing, but just being able to use the apps would be great. Could someone provide the APKs if it is possible?
2. If that won't work, could somebody strip the icons from the apks for me? I love them and I'd like to use them for my note and to do apps.
Thanks for reading,
zuka

They work on Sense Gingerbread ROMs, yes.

I've installed both on a Gingerbread Sense 3.0 ROM and they both force close. Am I doing something wrong?

I should have clarified, Sense 3.5 ROMs have them.

HTC native browser vs vanilla ICS browser questions

Hi All,
I am currently an iPhone user, but this phone may make me change league. Just a few questions regarding this particular device running HTC Sense 4.
One of the reason I considering change league is because ICS finally support full OpenGL ES rendering in the browser and all over the UI.
As far as I know, HTC devices use their own branded theme HTC Sense, which bundled with its own browser rather than the vanilla ICS browser. I noticed that the vanilla ICS browser has the option to enable full OpenGL ES render path. This make the browser work a lot faster and better surfing exp. I wonder if HTC's native browser has the same setting(s). Or is it already coded to enable OpenGL ES rendering?
If not, can I change the default browser to something, say the vanilla ICS chrome browser? or Dolphin? (not sure if Dolphin support OpenGL ES rendering though.)
Thanks.

It's still the same Ice Cream Sandwich browser just with HTC Sense themed over it, but the code inside the browser should be a bit different for the Tegra 3.
As long as you enable 'Full 2D GPU Rendering' or something in the developer setting, other browser should have it.

Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??

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Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps

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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps
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Thanks mate,
Although I may not like the Sense theme applied to the UI and browser, I found that the HTC's touch on the camera app is quite well received. I wonder if there is any possible ways to keep the camera app HTC way and just stop the Sense theme from working over the UI and Browser?
Cheers.

You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.

virtq said:
You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
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That's brilliant, thank you.
In terms of rooting the device and unlocking the bootloader, how hard will that be? As I know Sony's Xperia range even offer official unlock bootloader support, how good is this for the HTC's? Sorry for the noob questions.

You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.

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You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
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Thanks mate,
but using the launcher method will mean that I only get rid of the UI Sense home, but still need to stick with other HTC Sense features like HTC style multitasking, etc. where I prefer the original ICS.
What a shame! This phone is really a beauty in built and form factor is perfect for me. But many little flaws put me off a bit and a second thought is really in my mind...
e.g. The camera's output is too soft, the HTC sense in a burden for ICS, etc.

[Q] Will future "senseless" roms remove Media Link HD functions?

Hello,
As always, developers are sliding further and further away from the Sense UI. While I am also for this, I am curious as to what will happen with the functionality of the Media Link HD. Will developers be able to keep the functionality in there while removing most of the sense bloat or will this be considered bloat? Can somebody tell me exactly what "apps" htc has added for the functionality so that we can put them back if the developers remove them? What kind of dependencies do these apps need? Thank you for your help.

I imagine no one will know that until it is tried/we get an unlocked bootloader

Sense apps are usually pretty intertwined with the Sense framework. AFAIK, there has been little success importing Sense apps and features to AOSP ROMs. On the other hand, Sense ROMs stripped of some of their features and bloat, and themed to look AOSP are not out of the question (and pretty prevalent on other devices). Its possible a dev will make something like this, and leave the Media Link HD function intact. The only way to really answer this question, is if some devs come on here and tell you themselves. Even then, its so early on, and those plans may well change.

Scott's CleanROM Dev edition is pretty close. It still has the media link and some other sense features but the launcher and widgets are all stripped out. Runs very nice and Apex launcher is built in.

Samsung stock ROM motification (TouchWiz removal)

Hello,
While searching for a stable ROM for my "Samsung Galaxy S2 9.7" tablet (because I don't like TouchWiz) I got an idea. Instead of building a full custom ROM for the tablet, with all the bugs/repairs to go with it. Wouldn't it be easier (in my case) to just take the stock Samsung ROM and replace the UI only? I mean could the stock Samsung TouchWiz ROM files be replaced with the stock Android version of files? (e.g. System UI and/or UI framework)
This with the end result of having a already working stable ROM and there by minimizing the bug fixing to just the UI. I'm wondering, is this a stupid idea because this basically requires to rewrite the whole ROM or? I'm willing to study for Android development and develop this myself if it is worth it. (I don't have any experience with Android development but I do have experience with programming in general)
I know it is possible to replace the launcher and/or delete the stock apps, but the notification area and the settings app would still be TouchWiz. I would like to replace this also.
Thanks in advance,
Feonx

Why would you replace the stock ui, when you can get an entire new (and better) ROM with a different ui out there, I personally use CM12.1 which uses the Trebuchet Ui and it made my 4.2.2 android version into a 5.1.1. CM along with other ROMs out there come with some pretty great customisations that you can't get in a stock ROM (even rooted). But if you really want to develop or look for that specific type of ROM out there then go ahead and good luck.
Using CM12.1 on my SGH-T999

Thanks for your response AlienDrew!
Well the basic reason I want this is because CM 12 versions take a while before it is stable. My experience with custom ROMs is that it can be buggy or the ROM is a phone type of ROM on a tablet. I don't see the need for the whole ROM to be replaced if the "core" of Samsung is stable enough. All the work on making the ROM specifically for the hardware needs to be redone if CM is building it. I think Samsung is doing good work for optimizing the experience like for example the battery consumption.
I guess it would be very time consuming to do this. With my idea in mind, Samsung does the core maintenance and the only maintenance left to do (for CM or myself) is the UI witch would be much less work. I would really like to know a Android developers view on this.