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[Q] Having trouble with the newest MIUI ROM for EVO4G

I have an evo 4g, and i just flashed MIUI ROM 1.4.8 which is the newest one, i think, and was wondering if anyone out there can fill me in on the wireless tethering as well as the qik app doesn't seem to have video to video chat available? The camera doesn't seem to have all the control options as seen on a video before flashing the ROM, and i can't seem to get APP or a weather clock widget?
Can someone please help me that is familiar witht his, i don't know if i did something wrong, or what? I am about to go back to my original stock!

If you want Sense, I'd flash a Sense Rom. I'm personally running MIUI 1.4.1 on my Evo right now & I like it a lot, but I don't like Sense very much. If you didn't wipe everything, you're going to have problems. If there are features you know are in that version, but you can't find them, try asking on the MIUI forums. If you want a clock/weather widget, MIUI Weather is pretty good. You can get it in the Android Apps forum or over at MIUI-Dev (you have an app for their forums, it came with the rom).
Also know that there are two camera apps - the MIUI camera app, and the AOSP camera app. I'm not sure if the video recording is the same in both apps or if it's different.
Good luck figuring it out. But as I said, if you really like Sense then I'd stick with a Sense ROM. If you have any other questions about MIUI/Evo stuff, you can send me a pm. I'm always happy to help :]

HTC native browser vs vanilla ICS browser questions

Hi All,
I am currently an iPhone user, but this phone may make me change league. Just a few questions regarding this particular device running HTC Sense 4.
One of the reason I considering change league is because ICS finally support full OpenGL ES rendering in the browser and all over the UI.
As far as I know, HTC devices use their own branded theme HTC Sense, which bundled with its own browser rather than the vanilla ICS browser. I noticed that the vanilla ICS browser has the option to enable full OpenGL ES render path. This make the browser work a lot faster and better surfing exp. I wonder if HTC's native browser has the same setting(s). Or is it already coded to enable OpenGL ES rendering?
If not, can I change the default browser to something, say the vanilla ICS chrome browser? or Dolphin? (not sure if Dolphin support OpenGL ES rendering though.)
Thanks.

It's still the same Ice Cream Sandwich browser just with HTC Sense themed over it, but the code inside the browser should be a bit different for the Tegra 3.
As long as you enable 'Full 2D GPU Rendering' or something in the developer setting, other browser should have it.

Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??

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Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps

mtgray said:
As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps
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Thanks mate,
Although I may not like the Sense theme applied to the UI and browser, I found that the HTC's touch on the camera app is quite well received. I wonder if there is any possible ways to keep the camera app HTC way and just stop the Sense theme from working over the UI and Browser?
Cheers.

You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.

virtq said:
You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
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That's brilliant, thank you.
In terms of rooting the device and unlocking the bootloader, how hard will that be? As I know Sony's Xperia range even offer official unlock bootloader support, how good is this for the HTC's? Sorry for the noob questions.

You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.

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You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
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Thanks mate,
but using the launcher method will mean that I only get rid of the UI Sense home, but still need to stick with other HTC Sense features like HTC style multitasking, etc. where I prefer the original ICS.
What a shame! This phone is really a beauty in built and form factor is perfect for me. But many little flaws put me off a bit and a second thought is really in my mind...
e.g. The camera's output is too soft, the HTC sense in a burden for ICS, etc.

[Q] Will future "senseless" roms remove Media Link HD functions?

Hello,
As always, developers are sliding further and further away from the Sense UI. While I am also for this, I am curious as to what will happen with the functionality of the Media Link HD. Will developers be able to keep the functionality in there while removing most of the sense bloat or will this be considered bloat? Can somebody tell me exactly what "apps" htc has added for the functionality so that we can put them back if the developers remove them? What kind of dependencies do these apps need? Thank you for your help.

I imagine no one will know that until it is tried/we get an unlocked bootloader

Sense apps are usually pretty intertwined with the Sense framework. AFAIK, there has been little success importing Sense apps and features to AOSP ROMs. On the other hand, Sense ROMs stripped of some of their features and bloat, and themed to look AOSP are not out of the question (and pretty prevalent on other devices). Its possible a dev will make something like this, and leave the Media Link HD function intact. The only way to really answer this question, is if some devs come on here and tell you themselves. Even then, its so early on, and those plans may well change.

Scott's CleanROM Dev edition is pretty close. It still has the media link and some other sense features but the launcher and widgets are all stripped out. Runs very nice and Apex launcher is built in.

[Q] Combination of stock ICS and Sense 3.6/4 apps?

Hey guys, I've been away from Sensation development for a while so I'm not that current on what ROMs are available.
Basically, I've been using AOSP for a while and it's so much better at multitasking/fluidity that I don't really want to go back to Sense 3.6 or 4. However, I just don't think there's an app available that beats HTC's clock and weather functions - they really are amazing. I don't want or need access to Sense widgets, just the apps would be fine.
Is there any way to get Sense 3.6 or 4's clock and weather on a stock ICS Rom? I know it's not as simple as just chucking an apk on there because they come with additional services and libraries, so has any dev done something similar I might be able to have a look at?
Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any advice or replies
Cheers!

[Q] Root/ROM-free alternative to obtaining AOSP apps/widgets?

Hello,
Is there a way to obtain the default/AOSP ICS (or perhaps JB) apps and widgets, as additions (not replacements) to the stock Sense apps and widgets? While Sense isn't bad, I'd still like to obtain ICS/JB elements without having to root or anything warranty voiding, and without having to use a laucher (because that way I still don't have the AOSP apps/widgets, AND Sense widgets are lost).
So in short, how to get stock Sense apps/widgets PLUS AOSP apps/widgets?
Is this possible?
Thanks in advance.
(I did a search, the most fitting thread found was from 2010 from a way older Sense device.. not much of use.)

Not sure if you can install the AOSP apps straight from APKs when not rooted, but if so: download say CM9 or AOKP ROM (zip file) from development section and grab the apks from the zip file, copy to sdcard and click them in a file manager app on the phone. Some of them can coexist with sense apps, calendar, dialer and contacts for example. MMS and others will replace sense apps. When you get tired of limitations take the plunge and try a nice rooted Sense ROM like leedroid, trickdroid or modaco where you can do whatever your heart desires, unless it still desires the mutually exclusive stuff you mentioned ofc

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Not sure if you can install the AOSP apps straight from APKs when not rooted, but if so: download say CM9 or AOKP ROM (zip file) from development section and grab the apks from the zip file, copy to sdcard and click them in a file manager app on the phone. Some of them can coexist with sense apps, calendar, dialer and contacts for example. MMS and others will replace sense apps. When you get tired of limitations take the plunge and try a nice rooted Sense ROM like leedroid, trickdroid or modaco where you can do whatever your heart desires, unless it still desires the mutually exclusive stuff you mentioned ofc
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It's not that I really want the Sense widgets/apps, but my experience with launchers thus far has been a lack of widgets and apps to replace the Sense ones. It's a shame Sense replaces AOSP apps instead of just being added.
My concern with rooting and flashing ROMs, asides from the always present risk of bricking, is whether I can fully return to stock in case I need(/want) to return the phone, so, to keep my warranty safe. I'm already at the latest software versions, and from what I have read here is that I require a so-called RUU of the proper software version which isn't anywhere to be found except for sale.
Sense-ROMs would indeed suffice for keeping the Sense stuff, though a Jelly Bean ROM with some essential tweaks (e.g. 3 dot menu tweak) would probably suffice, given that it has the AOSP widgets. Though I need to wait for such ROM, and there's still the whole risk/warranty thing.