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Stock Contacts/Dialer

Does anyone know where I can find the stock 2.1 Contacts and Dialer .apk's?
Are these even possible to install as .apks? I'm trying to get my phone to as close as stock as possible without rooting. Thanks

i am very interested in this as well, but i think we'll have to wait for root or mods to get the stock dialer, contacts list, sms app and keyboard...
i'm afraid there's only a few of us who /don't/ want the HTC modifications to Android on our phones...

If anyone finds these I'd also like them. The HTC sense ones leave out too many options and replace them with fancy icons.

Add me to the list.
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just adding my 2cents.. i would love to have the stock android dialer from nexus/moto droid please.

Bump...
Is there any reason the n1 dialer, contacts and sms app can't be ported/installed on the incredible?
We've gotten a few things, clock, gallery, etc...

cpbills said:
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Is there any reason the n1 dialer, contacts and sms app can't be ported/installed on the incredible?
We've gotten a few things, clock, gallery, etc...
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They depend on the stock framework and without root , they cannot be installed. I'm pretty sure that if you try to install them it'll tell that the application already exists.

ok, i was wondering if there was something prohibiting the install... thank you for the update.

bump, now that we have root, has anyone had success getting a stock mms.apk, contacts.apk or phone.apk installed?
without removing phone.apk and mms.apk from the device, contacts.apk is the only one from the n1 dump that will /attempt/ to install, but it fails.
i assume, once the stock phone.apk and mms.apk are removed, the n1 mms.apk and phone.apk will also fail to install, so something needs to be modified, but i don't know much about all of this yet, i imagine i will learn a lot, as roms are released and kitchens, etc...
but if anyone has ability, and wants to take a whack at it, or point us in the right direction for learning what we need to do, please let us know...
otherwise, i suppose we wait for a vanilla rom to come out... here's hoping the nand flash is hacked soon...

You cannot "install" those sorts of apks. You simply have to copy, move or push them into the folder with rw access. It just overwrites the old file and then it will function if it can. If you overwrite the apk with an incompatible one, you will probably crash your phone. You also have to be careful because a lot of applications are dependent on each other.
To remove Sense means removing about 90 applications since they all depend on each other. If you do not remove them all, you will have compatibility problems and a lot of fc's and possibly boot loops. You also have to make sure you have replacements for most of them. Then there is the whole framework issue. Our phones are built and configured to work with Sense and the htc framework. You could probably manage to remove most but not everything without messing up your phone. Since we do not have a way to do a nand backup yet, I would just sit tight.
If you want a phone without any residual bits of Sense, you will want a Cyanogen based ROM. It has no Sense whatsoever.
For now, there are a few good apps in the Market for free that can act as replacements for most things like your contacts, launcher and mms.
If you want to do an easy Sense removing mod that requires root, just search for removing the htc lock screen. It is very easy and will give you the standard Android lock screen with the tab unlock feature. You will, however, lose the music player and notifications on the lock screen that htc has programmed in.

[ROM][Sense][13/03] Mini-Sense 1.0 - FITS IN 180MB HBOOT / 213MB FREE ON DATA

[size=+2]MINI-SENSE[/size]​
Mini-Senseless is a stripped down version of the excellent teppic74 ROM. It fits the "Bravo Sense" AlphaRev partition which gives me 213MB free on data after install, which is plenty enough for me. I've been using this ROM for several days now and haven't had any problems at all. The battery life was also very good.
This ROM was made for my personal use only but I decided to share it because someone else could also find it useful.
Enjoy
Highlights:
Exactly the same as teppic74's ROM v3.1, only lots of applications removed
Fits in 180MB system partition
213MB free on data
Most of the removed applications available on market
Good battery life
What has been changed:
Removed Rosie launcher and all Sense widgets
Removed most of the social apps - Facebook, Peep, FriendStream, etc
Removed all Google apps that are available on the Market - Gmail, YouTube, Maps, etc
Removed the RSS reader
Removed the HTC keyboard
Added Zeam as the default launcher, install another launcher if needed
Added the standard Froyo keyboard
... that's it, I think
Download:
Mini-Sense v1.0 (mirror)
Installation:
Flash "Bravo Sense" HBOOT partition. Instructions are found at the AlphaRev site.
Flash the .zip file from recovery. Erase /data and /cache partitions.
(optional) Flash this addon (mirror) to enable trackball to wake the phone
(optional) Install any of these teppic74 addons: (HIGH) POWERSAVING MODPACK, MINOR TWEAKS, RESTORE BOOTSOUND, A2SD+, SD READAHEAD
Warning:
Use at your own risk!
Do a nandroid backup first!
Do NOT install any addons that add files to /system (very little free space there)
Credits:
teppic74 - for making such a wonderful ROM

tnx for this ROM
I like newest things ....
testing it right now

1 question, this is froyo or ginger sense ?

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1 question, this is froyo or ginger sense ?
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Read the post before asking a stupid question

one small question: what brings an Sense ROM without the Sense "goodness" (Widgets, Rosie usw.)? There are enough "stock" Andoid ROMs!?

it gives you the other htc functionalities, such as linking contacts to fb accounts n pictures which is quite lacking on AOSP, if you miss the widgets so bad try LauncherPro, or stick to sense...

Is the linking funktion not a part of Friedstream?
Or is the Facebook provider a seperate part?

Has nothing to do with friendstream, its an HTC feature...
Sent from my HTC Desire

Its an HTC feature but it is also built into stock. The difference is that it isn't so aesthetically pleasing on stock.
But I think I agree with the above. I love the idea of a mini sense rom, but the Widgets are some of the best features of sense. Without them I fail to see the point in sense over stock? Plus, surely our memory will just go down again to stock once I install the Google apps I need which is pretty much all of them?
Great idea though
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I had something like this on my to do list for a while before I was distracted by other things.
I really appreciate this here, thank you.

Jagdish84 said:
it gives you the other htc functionalities, such as linking contacts to fb accounts n pictures which is quite lacking on AOSP, if you miss the widgets so bad try LauncherPro, or stick to sense...
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Now that is just perfect, I don't particularly like the sense launcher, so I tried using AOSP roms. I liked the oxygen rom since it's blazingly fast, it does have some issues that I can work around, but I cannot LIVE without the "People" app.
Now I realize why it's called one of the 7 wonders of the new smartphone apps

Sounds good. Been looking for something like this since Supervillain stopped being updated. I've been using Sense for the last few weeks so will see if i can switch over again. New memory card arriving this week so will try it out then.

Well, there are certain benefits even if you have widgets stripped off from a Sense ROM. For example:
- Stability! - all latest stock ROMs have different issues (light sensor, 2 sec delay, USB speed, reboots once in a while, etc)
- Dialer / People are more advanced than stock
- Little HTC improvements, like the dialog when USB is connected
- HTC lock screen, which I find more pleasant to use
- Camera app is better
- Album app is better than Gallery
- ... lots of other small things
I realize most bullets from the list above are a matter of personal preference, that is why I have stated in my first post that this ROM is made to suit my needs. If someone else finds it useful - I'd be glad to hear that... just take it as it is
Cheers

so this is a sense rom with some of the best parts of sense ripped out?

Thanx alot!! i appreciate the effort. One slight concern how is the battery life when compared to gingerbread roms as i am getting very good battery life on cm7.

Athar.r said:
Thanx alot!! i appreciate the effort. One slight concern how is the battery life when compared to gingerbread roms as i am getting very good battery life on cm7.
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I've been using this ROM for over a week now. Before that I was on Redux and Oxygen for several weeks. I would say the battery life is comparable. This is my opinion of course, your mileage may vary.

SlCKB0Y said:
so this is a sense rom with some of the best parts of sense ripped out?
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Not to me. I don't use Sense launcher, widgets, RSS, Peep or FriendStream. Everything else (Sense related) is included in the ROM (or could be installed later). If you define these as "the best parts of sense" then you'd better take a look at some of the other Sense ROMs available.

I want to go back on what I originally said. I have to say, I think the idea in principal is great - I just feel too many things have been cut out for my liking. I wonder, since you say you deleted all HTC widgets, does this mean you have removed the standard htc flip clock with the weather + weather animations? They are possibly my favourite sense features...? I would certainly give it a go if they were still in it, or would it be easy to add them back in?
Also, I currently use A2SD and never fill it. Would the extra 100mb or so be enough for me to make the jump onto this non a2sd rom?

One more question, can the mods from teppic74 rom thread mentioned in the first post also be applied to this rom? I would like to try some of the addons if yes. Btw the rom feels great so far. Thanx

Is'ent thos ROM possible without S-Off? cant get it to work, the S-Off that is...

[Q] Help with HTC Notes and Tasks ICS apps

dudes and dudettes,
I tried out one of the Sense ICS ROMS (ARHD 5.0.2) and while aspects of it were great, at the moment (due to kernel development) it's a lot slower than the Gingerbread ROMs available.
However, I really loved the HTC ICS "Notes" and "Tasks" apps.
My questions,
1. Is it possible to run these apps on Gingerbread? Obviously the widgets couldn't really be integrated with a current ROM without recooking the whole thing, but just being able to use the apps would be great. Could someone provide the APKs if it is possible?
2. If that won't work, could somebody strip the icons from the apks for me? I love them and I'd like to use them for my note and to do apps.
Thanks for reading,
zuka

They work on Sense Gingerbread ROMs, yes.

I've installed both on a Gingerbread Sense 3.0 ROM and they both force close. Am I doing something wrong?

I should have clarified, Sense 3.5 ROMs have them.

HTC native browser vs vanilla ICS browser questions

Hi All,
I am currently an iPhone user, but this phone may make me change league. Just a few questions regarding this particular device running HTC Sense 4.
One of the reason I considering change league is because ICS finally support full OpenGL ES rendering in the browser and all over the UI.
As far as I know, HTC devices use their own branded theme HTC Sense, which bundled with its own browser rather than the vanilla ICS browser. I noticed that the vanilla ICS browser has the option to enable full OpenGL ES render path. This make the browser work a lot faster and better surfing exp. I wonder if HTC's native browser has the same setting(s). Or is it already coded to enable OpenGL ES rendering?
If not, can I change the default browser to something, say the vanilla ICS chrome browser? or Dolphin? (not sure if Dolphin support OpenGL ES rendering though.)
Thanks.

It's still the same Ice Cream Sandwich browser just with HTC Sense themed over it, but the code inside the browser should be a bit different for the Tegra 3.
As long as you enable 'Full 2D GPU Rendering' or something in the developer setting, other browser should have it.

Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??

[email protected] said:
Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps

mtgray said:
As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps
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Thanks mate,
Although I may not like the Sense theme applied to the UI and browser, I found that the HTC's touch on the camera app is quite well received. I wonder if there is any possible ways to keep the camera app HTC way and just stop the Sense theme from working over the UI and Browser?
Cheers.

You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.

virtq said:
You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
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That's brilliant, thank you.
In terms of rooting the device and unlocking the bootloader, how hard will that be? As I know Sony's Xperia range even offer official unlock bootloader support, how good is this for the HTC's? Sorry for the noob questions.

You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.

Sarsippius said:
You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
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Thanks mate,
but using the launcher method will mean that I only get rid of the UI Sense home, but still need to stick with other HTC Sense features like HTC style multitasking, etc. where I prefer the original ICS.
What a shame! This phone is really a beauty in built and form factor is perfect for me. But many little flaws put me off a bit and a second thought is really in my mind...
e.g. The camera's output is too soft, the HTC sense in a burden for ICS, etc.

[Q] Will future "senseless" roms remove Media Link HD functions?

Hello,
As always, developers are sliding further and further away from the Sense UI. While I am also for this, I am curious as to what will happen with the functionality of the Media Link HD. Will developers be able to keep the functionality in there while removing most of the sense bloat or will this be considered bloat? Can somebody tell me exactly what "apps" htc has added for the functionality so that we can put them back if the developers remove them? What kind of dependencies do these apps need? Thank you for your help.

I imagine no one will know that until it is tried/we get an unlocked bootloader

Sense apps are usually pretty intertwined with the Sense framework. AFAIK, there has been little success importing Sense apps and features to AOSP ROMs. On the other hand, Sense ROMs stripped of some of their features and bloat, and themed to look AOSP are not out of the question (and pretty prevalent on other devices). Its possible a dev will make something like this, and leave the Media Link HD function intact. The only way to really answer this question, is if some devs come on here and tell you themselves. Even then, its so early on, and those plans may well change.

Scott's CleanROM Dev edition is pretty close. It still has the media link and some other sense features but the launcher and widgets are all stripped out. Runs very nice and Apex launcher is built in.