Does anyone know where I can find the stock 2.1 Contacts and Dialer .apk's?
Are these even possible to install as .apks? I'm trying to get my phone to as close as stock as possible without rooting. Thanks
i am very interested in this as well, but i think we'll have to wait for root or mods to get the stock dialer, contacts list, sms app and keyboard...
i'm afraid there's only a few of us who /don't/ want the HTC modifications to Android on our phones...
If anyone finds these I'd also like them. The HTC sense ones leave out too many options and replace them with fancy icons.
Add me to the list.
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just adding my 2cents.. i would love to have the stock android dialer from nexus/moto droid please.
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Is there any reason the n1 dialer, contacts and sms app can't be ported/installed on the incredible?
We've gotten a few things, clock, gallery, etc...
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Is there any reason the n1 dialer, contacts and sms app can't be ported/installed on the incredible?
We've gotten a few things, clock, gallery, etc...
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They depend on the stock framework and without root , they cannot be installed. I'm pretty sure that if you try to install them it'll tell that the application already exists.
ok, i was wondering if there was something prohibiting the install... thank you for the update.
bump, now that we have root, has anyone had success getting a stock mms.apk, contacts.apk or phone.apk installed?
without removing phone.apk and mms.apk from the device, contacts.apk is the only one from the n1 dump that will /attempt/ to install, but it fails.
i assume, once the stock phone.apk and mms.apk are removed, the n1 mms.apk and phone.apk will also fail to install, so something needs to be modified, but i don't know much about all of this yet, i imagine i will learn a lot, as roms are released and kitchens, etc...
but if anyone has ability, and wants to take a whack at it, or point us in the right direction for learning what we need to do, please let us know...
otherwise, i suppose we wait for a vanilla rom to come out... here's hoping the nand flash is hacked soon...
You cannot "install" those sorts of apks. You simply have to copy, move or push them into the folder with rw access. It just overwrites the old file and then it will function if it can. If you overwrite the apk with an incompatible one, you will probably crash your phone. You also have to be careful because a lot of applications are dependent on each other.
To remove Sense means removing about 90 applications since they all depend on each other. If you do not remove them all, you will have compatibility problems and a lot of fc's and possibly boot loops. You also have to make sure you have replacements for most of them. Then there is the whole framework issue. Our phones are built and configured to work with Sense and the htc framework. You could probably manage to remove most but not everything without messing up your phone. Since we do not have a way to do a nand backup yet, I would just sit tight.
If you want a phone without any residual bits of Sense, you will want a Cyanogen based ROM. It has no Sense whatsoever.
For now, there are a few good apps in the Market for free that can act as replacements for most things like your contacts, launcher and mms.
If you want to do an easy Sense removing mod that requires root, just search for removing the htc lock screen. It is very easy and will give you the standard Android lock screen with the tab unlock feature. You will, however, lose the music player and notifications on the lock screen that htc has programmed in.
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Anyone have the N1 contacts and dialer app?
Thanks in advance
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Anyone have the N1 contacts and dialer app?
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for bringing that up. Actually, that could be a good thing to port to the EVO.
Anyone?
You mean you want the AOSP contacts?
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Anyone have the N1 contacts and dialer app?
Thanks in advance
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The dialer I think would be under the name Phone.apk but I might be wrong. I pushed it on my EVO and the unit would not recieve serivce. I think We'll need the one from a MotoDroid or Desire. I believe this is a CDMA vs GSM issue that is built into the Phone app.
I've pushed the Nexus one Contacts.apk in and it too was unsucessful. I think it will take more then just the APK's while /system is locked. If they get that unlocked then you'll be able to just run the apk but for now all the files in data/data and /data/app need to come with it as well as any other hooks these apps have.
I've lost the stock contacts (People, why they re-name crap???) while trying to do this. When I get it figued out I'll let you know.
If anyone has the Desire or Moto Phone.apk I'll be happy to give it a try.
Might need any thing from /data/data/ and /data/app/ that is assoctiated with Phone or Dialer.
I would love to get rid of the sense dialer
Yeah.. I put money on the table to get rid of the sense dialer/ contacts.... so.. that'd be awesome if someone jumped on that.
The only way I achieved nexus one contacts is through the froyo port by avalaunch.
The sense phone and dialer app was a dealbreaker for me. The froyo phone app is simple and quick.
There are already roms that have this.
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There are already roms that have this.
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I tried one of the sense removed roms and it still had the sense dialer. Do you know which versions have the stock dialer?
Can we just open up a rom zip file and pull apk's out of it, or is it not that simple?
New version coming tonight
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698350
This one as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699814
I think there is another I've or two that have the asop dialer. On the last one listed the contacts part works from the dialer not the asp icon which isn't a big deal just make sure you select the right one before checking use as default.
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New version coming tonight
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698350
This one as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699814
I think there is another I've or two that have the asop dialer. On the last one listed the contacts part works from the dialer not the asp icon which isn't a big deal just make sure you select the right one before checking use as default.
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Thanks for the links... I have actually used both of those, the top one is 2.2, and very nice, but not quite ready for day-to-day use unless you are willing to deal with no cameras and some flaky app stuff. I think I actually backed up the dialer in particular from it with Titanium, but it wouldn't install since it is 2.2 only.
The second one (NonSense): I tried the stripped one, and it used aosp stuff for many parts, but lots was still sense ui, including the dialer. It is possible that the full version includes it though.
I have non tried the Senseless rom yet, so it may be the one you are referring to.
Edit: I just looked at the nonsense thread a bit, and sure enough he mentions that it has the stock dialer. Sleep deprevation must be getting to me. Maybe the contacts app was still sense, but the dialer wasn't... or something.
So I will try to organize this thread so most important stuff (request) is on top, and my rant/explanation of why I want this done will follow. Warning: I know I tend to use a lot of run-on sentences...I'm just long winded
Attached are two stock (I presume) .apk's that I pulled out of Cyanogen's ROM that I have installed on my stock 2.1 ROM. I prefer these two apps vs. the HTC versions, but each have one small issue.
1) - DeskClock.apk will FC if you hit the Music shortcut. I am assuming that this is something simple, like it's trying to call up the wrong program? Can this be written to launch the HTC Music App, hopefully eliminating the FC?
2) - Gallery3D will FC if you try to launch the camera from within the app. I am once again assuming (more hoping, really) that it's trying to launch a camera app that doesn't exist in the stock ROM. Can this be written to launch the HTC Camera app, hopefully eliminating the FC?
I would try myself, but after downloading and installing Eclipse, JRE and the Android plug-in, I still feel like this is over my head at this point, as all I have is very limited Visual Basic experience. Would someone mind doing me a favor and updating those apps are reposting them in this thread so that myself and other like me can use those on our stock 2.1 ROMs? It would be much appreciated
Now for the rant:
I see a lot of people with differing opinions on HTC's Sense. Personally, this is my first Android phone, and I have found that I actually like SOME of the Sense apps. I dont really have a problem with the launcher (though I have replaeced it with ADW.Launcher), and I feel that apps such as People, Camera, and Phone are somewhat superior to what I presume are the stock Contacts, Camera and Phone apps, respectively. And then I wonder why HTC created some of the other apps they did that seem somewhat....lacking.
1) The "Photos" app is very boring and plain. I mean, I appreciate the Flickr and Facebook integration (which would be useful IF I used them), but why could they not have just added this functionality to the already awesome 3D Gallery? I would rather use the stock Gallery app, and even though the file I attached (see:Gallery3D.apk) doesn't have a functioning camera botton, I still prefer it to the Photo app. Plus, it pulls in my Picasa photo albums
2) The DeskClock app HTC included on the incredible is fine for the most part, but I don't like the small clock font and the fact that it takes FOREVER to launch, whereas the stock DeskClock.apk is instant to load, has a much larger font, and does other things I like better; like keeping my wallpaper visible, and is softer to the eye. Once again, I appreciate the added features of HTC's clock (Worldclock, Stopwatch, Timer), but I don't use them enough to make me like this program more than the stock one.
So that is why I am asking for those to be edited so they'll run on my stock ROM. At least until we start seeing some FroYo love
Also, if anybody knows, why did HTC replace the Messages app with one that exchanges the ability to set conversation limits (e.g. 200 messages, then auto delete) with one that uses Facebook for contact icons? I still use the HTC Messages app cause I like the pictures transferring over from Facebook (or the People app, which is updated by Facebook, and hence why the People app I like BETTER than stock), but why leave out any message bulk control? Anything over two or three hundred and my phone really starts taking a long time to open the conversation...
Alternately, once CyanogenMod's ROM becomes more stable, I would love to switch to it if I could bring some of the Sense apps along. Those would be:
1) People - with fully functioning updates and photo shortcuts to Facebook and Flickr
2) Camera - I like the added features...and the fact that it already supports 8MP, whereas (as of CM5.0.8 Test1, anyway), the camera app would only do 3MP
3) Phone - again, with correctly synchronizing contact pictures and speed dial, just like in our stock ROM.
I haven't actually tried pulling these out of the stock ROM and installing them in CM5, but I'm assuming I'd run into issues with the Facebook/Flickr sync...
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So I will try to organize this thread so most important stuff (request) is on top, and my rant/explanation of why I want this done will follow. Warning: I know I tend to use a lot of run-on sentences...I'm just long winded
Attached are two stock (I presume) .apk's that I pulled out of Cyanogen's ROM that I have installed on my stock 2.1 ROM. I prefer these two apps vs. the HTC versions, but each have one small issue.
1) - DeskClock.apk will FC if you hit the Music shortcut. I am assuming that this is something simple, like it's trying to call up the wrong program? Can this be written to launch the HTC Music App, hopefully eliminating the FC?
2) - Gallery3D will FC if you try to launch the camera from within the app. I am once again assuming (more hoping, really) that it's trying to launch a camera app that doesn't exist in the stock ROM. Can this be written to launch the HTC Camera app, hopefully eliminating the FC?
I would try myself, but after downloading and installing Eclipse, JRE and the Android plug-in, I still feel like this is over my head at this point, as all I have is very limited Visual Basic experience. Would someone mind doing me a favor and updating those apps are reposting them in this thread so that myself and other like me can use those on our stock 2.1 ROMs? It would be much appreciated
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attached is a gallery apk that doesn't have the camera issue. and also I attached the stock music apk that is need for deskclock.
Anything from Sense requires the htc framework which you are not going to find in any Cyanogen or vanilla ROM and there is no work around.
The vanilla DeskClock apk (with working music button) and 3D Gallery (with working camera button) already exist in other threads in this forum. Just search for them. You will also find both of those apps in any plain vanilla or cyanogen rom that is made.
As for the phone and contacts, the vanilla ones are much better imo than sense. You will not miss the lag.
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Thanks jitajt! Those fixed my problems. Im getting to the point where I'm fairly satisfied with everything about the phone. Just got Hydra's OCUV+N kernel installed and it's working great.
I have the opposite request of this thread actually; I need the HTC DeskClock files from a stock 2.1 sense ROM. Would anyone be able to post it please? Thank you in advance!
I miss having the timer and stop watch functionality that comes with it. My laundry always winds up sitting in the washer and dryer far too long without me setting a timer
Hello. I did a search for AOSP DeskClock and this is the only promising thread I found. I'm using an HTC CDMA Hero. Does anyone know if this is or isn't safe for me to use?
Also, do I just push to /system/app?
I don't know about you guys.. but the sense gallery loads up MUCH FASTER than this gallery 3D. UNINSTALLED
I have both apps in my rom and are runing fine
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Camera FC
Hey Thanks jitajt!
I've been trying to get this to work on my samsung spica for a few days now.
But now the camera button (upper right) is giving me an FC error. It's because the camer app I have is SamsungCamera.apk NOT the stock camera app.
Could you provide the stock camera.apk for android 2.1?
Thanks.
Before I begin, I want to let everyone know I searched endlessly for the problem I'm having and have found absolutely nothing. I'm hoping someone out there can help solve this problem for me. Also I'm posting here rather than any other section because it seems as though I would get the best help here.
I downloaded all of fresh's different vanilla clock options and tried them all individually making sure to wipe data/dalvik cache and haven't been able to achieve the results I'm looking for. Here are the problems:
1. His vanilla lock screen works but not when I receive calls, only when I turn off/on screen. When I receive calls I get the standard Htc lock screen. I've tried everything I can think of including using root explore to remove factory lock screen and also going in through the adb shell. Both ways seem successful until I get a call and realize I have the same problem all over again.
2. The second problem is that the vanilla clock on the lock screen is blurry and doesn't look the way it supposed to. It's black instead of white and very faint. I've found a way to get rid of the clock in the lock screen but would rather have one.
Basically I'm trying get the vanilla lock that's in darchdroid 2.7 or one that operates in that manner and looks the same. I'm assuming that that's the original unmodified/themed vanilla lockscreen.
Oh, and all this time I thought all those vanilla lockscreen mods (JsChiSurf, flipz, and the Gregalous's metamorph) handled calls this way!
I would also like to see this. Just a pure AOSP lock screen with all the looks and functionality of the original.
I'm confused my clock in the rotary aosp lockscreen is white and when I get a call the arc from the HTC lockscreen comes up but that's what's in the frameworks. I don't know what darchdroid looks like cause I've never tried it. I prefer sense roms.
Papa Smurf151 said:
I'm confused my clock in the rotary aosp lockscreen is white and when I get a call the arc from the HTC lockscreen comes up but that's what's in the frameworks. I don't know what darchdroid looks like cause I've never tried it. I prefer sense roms.
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I prefer Sense based roms as well after having numerous problems with dd 2.7 I ran out of patience. Plus fresh is running incredibly smooth for me. But the vanilla lock screen on that rom is neat because it's made so that it comes up all the time in similar fashion to phones that come stock with vanilla such as the original droid. This means that when you get a call to answer/unlock the vanilla lock screen comes up as well. No Sense lock whatsoever. Also I believe that it's themed so it's not completely clear but only semi transparent so that you can tell the lock screen is there. Lol I'm probably not doing a good job at describing it and don't have any screen shots since I"m not using dd 2.7 anymore.
Below is a thread from a while back about putting aosp apks on Sense based roms and you (Papa) have a post that you signed the zips so that they could just be flashed on instead of pushed. I wonder if this is possible with the vanilla lock screen? I figured if anyone would know it would be you or jschisurf. I extracted dd 2.7 rom and looked through the individual files for the lock screen but since I don't know what I'm doing (I've programming illiterate) I didn't see anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667715&highlight=aosp+apk
It will have to be done differently. Its not an app. Its in the android.policy file in the frameworks folder. I'm not great at classes.dex edits. IR bet is to ask jschisurf. He's the man when it comes to those edits
Should I send him a pm along with a link to this thread then?
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Should I send him a pm along with a link to this thread then?
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That would be ur best shot
You might want to check out WidgetLocker if you haven't heard of it. It's $1.99 and really customizable.. here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732986
And here's a video review of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InDlQTy5lY At 5:15 it looks like you can get the exact AOSP lock functionality as well as static wallpaper. Then it's just up to you to find the clock widget you like..
Ok thank you. I will pm him and see what happens.
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You might want to check out WidgetLocker if you haven't heard of it. It's $1.99 and really customizable.. here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732986
And here's a video review of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InDlQTy5lY At 5:15 it looks like you can get the exact AOSP lock functionality as well as static wallpaper. Then it's just up to you to find the clock widget you like..
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c00ller, thanks so much for finding this app!!! I downloaded it already and it's awesome! The only thing I wish it could do is replace the answer call drag down bar as well which is part of what I was looking for. This is great though! I wouldn't have know about it otherwise.
No prob I'm actually thinking of getting it myself. I agree though, it would be perfect if it also showed slide to answer a call
1. His vanilla lock screen works but not when I receive calls, only when I turn off/on screen. When I receive calls I get the standard Htc lock screen. I've tried everything I can think of including using root explore to remove factory lock screen and also going in through the adb shell. Both ways seem successful until I get a call and realize I have the same problem all over again.
is there any way to make the receive call the same as the lockscreen?
The in call lockscreen is mutually exclusive of the standard lockscreen, and thus why deleting HtcLockScreen.apk has no impact on the in call lockscreen that displays.
The problem is, the in call lockscreen is controlled by Phone.apk. If it were possible to simply load the AOSP Phone.apk, it would likely work, but I don't think it is that easy, as there would likely have to be major "surgery" to the .apk to integrate into the HTC framework, etc.
The other option is to try and take the elements of just the AOSP Phone.apk file that control the in call lockscreen and incorporate them into our (HTC Phone.apk). Either way, a lot of work, I'm guessing, would be required to make it happen.
So, long story short, this isn't technically a lockscreen issue at all, but a Phone.apk "issue" to address, if possible.
I haven't taken the time to see what it may involve, and haven't even tried to see if an AOSP Phone.apk would load, out of the box (doubt it), but that's the starting point for anyone interested in tackling it.
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Before I begin, I want to let everyone know I searched endlessly for the problem I'm having and have found absolutely nothing. I'm hoping someone out there can help solve this problem for me. Also I'm posting here rather than any other section because it seems as though I would get the best help here.
I downloaded all of fresh's different vanilla clock options and tried them all individually making sure to wipe data/dalvik cache and haven't been able to achieve the results I'm looking for. Here are the problems:
1. His vanilla lock screen works but not when I receive calls, only when I turn off/on screen. When I receive calls I get the standard Htc lock screen. I've tried everything I can think of including using root explore to remove factory lock screen and also going in through the adb shell. Both ways seem successful until I get a call and realize I have the same problem all over again.
2. The second problem is that the vanilla clock on the lock screen is blurry and doesn't look the way it supposed to. It's black instead of white and very faint. I've found a way to get rid of the clock in the lock screen but would rather have one.
Basically I'm trying get the vanilla lock that's in darchdroid 2.7 or one that operates in that manner and looks the same. I'm assuming that that's the original unmodified/themed vanilla lockscreen.
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The in call lockscreen is mutually exclusive of the standard lockscreen, and thus why deleting HtcLockScreen.apk has no impact on the in call lockscreen that displays.
The problem is, the in call lockscreen is controlled by Phone.apk. It it were possible to simply load the AOSP Phone.apk, it would likely work, but I don't think it is that easy, as there would likely have to be major "surgery" to the .apk to integrate into the HTC framework, etc.
The other option is to try and take the elements of just the AOSP Phone.apk file that control the in call lockscreen and incorporate them into our (HTC Phone.apk). Either way, a lot of work, I'm guessing, would be required to make it happen.
So, long story short, this isn't technically a lockscreen issue at all, but a Phone.apk "issue" to address, if possible.
I haven't taken the time to see what it may involve, and haven't even tried to see if an AOSP Phone.apk would load, out of the box (doubt it), but that's the starting point for anyone interested in tackling it.
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By judging from your work i can see that you are quite good at these, would you mind if you could help us out? i guess a lot of people would want this
Jschisurf, thank you for your feedback! I knew if anyone might have an idea it would be you based on the numerous threads involving your work. I wish I could take what you said and begin tackling it however, I've got no skill in this area. The most I could do is offer you or anyone who can do this a small donation to tackle it and can get it working. However, that being said, I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass this would be based on what's involved so I'm not going to push it.
I've tried to load aosp phone.apk in past but no go
I just installed the latest cognition and I see that the TWlauncher stuff has been removed, thus removing glasslock. This is by far my favorite lock screen and I was wondering if there was any relatively easy way to get it back that anybody knows of? Can it only be used if TWlauncher is fully installed?
I saw one thread somewhere about modifying some file in your theme to use various lock screens but it was super complicated and I'm not even sure it will work without the TWlauncher stuff.
Thanks
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I just installed the latest cognition and I see that the TWlauncher stuff has been removed, thus removing glasslock. This is by far my favorite lock screen and I was wondering if there was any relatively easy way to get it back that anybody knows of? Can it only be used if TWlauncher is fully installed?
I saw one thread somewhere about modifying some file in your theme to use various lock screens but it was super complicated and I'm not even sure it will work without the TWlauncher stuff.
Thanks
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I believe you need to android.policy.jar file located in system/framework.... you can grab it from one of his earlier roms that had the stock lock I believe. ALso since his newest are fully deodexed... you just need the .jar file and not the .odex file if I understand all that correctly lol. Hope this helps
Hm... I see old copies of it here from past versions... but what other modifications might have been made to this? If I just swap it is it going to revert a bunch of other changes made or possibly just break everything?
Does anyone know?
I was messing around with my phone and i found Go Launcher. I when messing around with that i like it so much and i want to know is it possible to replace htc sense with Go Launcher? To add more detail to my question is removing it off my phone through a root explore and replacing it with Go Launcher? Will that work? and how?
Yep.
Download whatever launcher you want to use ( I used ADW, you can use Go, or anything else that works).
Ensure that it works by playing with it for a little bit.
Once you are sure it's working correctly, hit your home button and select your new launcher as the default. (don't skip this step)
After you have your new launcher as the default, using Root Explorer (or File Expert, both of those i've tested - others may work) navigate to and delete:
/system/app/rosie.apk
/system/app/rosie.odex
/data/data/com.htc.launcher
Exit your file manager and reboot your system.
Done.
That's the quick and dirty method.
I'd recommend using something like "Absolute System" to first delete the data, then uninstall HTC Sense (make sure the file paths correspond to what I wrote above) and then going back to manually delete /system/app/rosie.odex
Absolute System won't get .odex files, so uninstalling system apps this way means you have to go back and clean it up yourself for the .odex files.
Also, you lose the HTC myTouch Power Control and a handful of other widgets in this process.
I am experimenting now with deleting/uninstalling other system packages (like fusion, open sense plugin manager and so forth) to see where it causes problems, but that's still preliminary at the moment.
I made a thread about this Here which i'll be updating in another few days once I get my new battery settled in and can continue.
Meantime, just uninstalling the HTC Sense launcher and replacing it with another one works well, and still allows full functionality of the stock camera app, as long as the rosie.apk -.odex and corresponding /data/data file is all you remove.
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Yep.
Download whatever launcher you want to use ( I used ADW, you can use Go, or anything else that works).
Ensure that it works by playing with it for a little bit.
Once you are sure it's working correctly, hit your home button and select your new launcher as the default. (don't skip this step)
After you have your new launcher as the default, using Root Explorer (or File Expert, both of those i've tested - others may work) navigate to and delete:
/system/app/rosie.apk
/system/app/rosie.odex
/data/data/com.htc.launcher
Exit your file manager and reboot your system.
Done.
That's the quick and dirty method.
I'd recommend using something like "Absolute System" to first delete the data, then uninstall HTC Sense (make sure the file paths correspond to what I wrote above) and then going back to manually delete /system/app/rosie.odex
Absolute System won't get .odex files, so uninstalling system apps this way means you have to go back and clean it up yourself for the .odex files.
Also, you lose the HTC myTouch Power Control and a handful of other widgets in this process.
I am experimenting now with deleting/uninstalling other system packages (like fusion, open sense plugin manager and so forth) to see where it causes problems, but that's still preliminary at the moment.
I made a thread about this Here which i'll be updating in another few days once I get my new battery settled in and can continue.
Meantime, just uninstalling the HTC Sense launcher and replacing it with another one works well, and still allows full functionality of the stock camera app, as long as the rosie.apk -.odex and corresponding /data/data file is all you remove.
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Nice thanks i'm trying adw.launcher the app-drawer seems slow?
Yea, switch it to vertical view in settings.
(on desktop, hit menu, then more, then ADW settings, you'll find it in there)
It helps - i'm trying to see if there's a conflict with ADW fighting against anything HTC has running on the device, i'm using ADW since i'm pretty familiar with it at this point from my Nook Color, it's the 'stock' launcer for CM7 there.
I noticed that after loading the app drawer the first time, it hasn't been an issue.
I'd love to hear more about your experiences with this, it's a learning experience for us all at this point.
Ok i was think renaming go launcher as rosie.apk so it can boot up on its on. Unless there is some xml or cfg file some where i can edit and rename it.
Update:
I completely replaced htc sense with go launcher everything seems to work perfectly fine. i like this launcher way better less ram and fast too.
Update 2:
I renamed it to rosie.apk after that I pressed the home button. It opened up go launcher and the camera is still working correctly.
Update 3:
Personalize doesn't work if you remove htc sense.
Question: does having another launcher without uninstalling sense significantly impact performance? I'd rather not have to root and delete sense at the moment.
On another note, is anyone slightly fed up by how lackluster the optimization of Sense was for this phone? Since I'm coming from the original MyTouch, I was used to non-smooth performance, but today I installed 7 launcher and I was amazed by how comparitively smooth it ran, despite "just" being a market app. I just installed golauncher after seeing this thread and am just as amazed. So smooth!
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Question: does having another launcher without uninstalling sense significantly impact performance? I'd rather not have to root and delete sense at the moment.
On another note, is anyone slightly fed up by how lackluster the optimization of Sense was for this phone? Since I'm coming from the original MyTouch, I was used to non-smooth performance, but today I installed 7 launcher and I was amazed by how comparitively smooth it ran, despite "just" being a market app. I just installed golauncher after seeing this thread and am just as amazed. So smooth!
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Before I removed sense. All you had to do really was set a default launcher then killing sense with a tasks/processes manager. But i went ahead and removed it because i really want one launcher and i don't want the phone booting up to sense then others.
As well as it works, bear in mind this is just a slap-it-together fix.
None of the underlying frameworks that actually power the launcher are gone with the removal of rosie.apk, simply the launcher itself. (well, on the surface at least)
Yes, there is a slight performance gain, but nothing like what it would be if you actually went in and pulled everything behind the launcher that powers it.
Doing that, of course, would compromise the camera.apk, and most likely the whole rest of the phone in the process. It's likely that a new/different phone.apk would be needed, as well as most of the apps on the device.
(I don't know for sure yet whether phone.apk is tied to the sense frameworks, but I have barely begun looking into the .apk's we get with the phone, so don't take that out of context.)
Replacing the launcher, no problem. Ripping out Sense itself...we're quite a bit away from that at the moment. You can pull the launcher on the surface and still have a stable, running system.
I'd venture to guess, though I haven't checked for sure, any performance gains from removing the sense launcher are nullified by whatever launcher you replace it with.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't experiment, and I personally don't like the Sense launcher too much. I like some stuff about it, but what I don't like about it makes it worth it to me to trade it out for something else now.
At the moment i'm running the stock launcher again while I build my battery stats file up again, but as soon as that's done i'm back to ADW and ripping out the guts of this stock rom to figure out what needs what.
Now, the cool thing about removing the Sense launcher is there are a slew of widgets that won't run without it, so you can dump them as well since they don't do anything anymore.
Combining dropping the Sense launcher with all the widgets it doesn't need anymore, and the lists we are making in a few places in this forum about what you can/can't delete/freeze you can see a significant performance gain.
I just want to dispell the illusion that removing the Sense launcher removes Sense itself, they are two different things. As we decompile and sift through the software on the phone we'll figure out what we can and can't get away with.
Don't forget there are other things to get rid of to truly remove the Sense launcher, such as /system/framework/com.htc.rosie.jar (and corresponding .odex file) .
What I posted in the second post of this thread is enough to get it out of the way so you can use something else, but a far cry from removing it entirely. The deeper you dig, the less stable it all becomes. Until someone releases a rom that starts from the ground up, there's only so much we can get away with starting from the top down.
Meantime, though, everything we're doing here and talking about is helping the people who will develop a rom get an idea of how the system works. Threads like this and the questions being asked and answered are a big help.
And of course, this is all good fun too. Android is like legos, you can basically just build what you want with whatever pieces you want to use. Android is pretty robust and self-correcting, you have to do something drastic (like delete phone.apk) to break it.
sonicjam - I was messing around with launchers again since I got my battery taken care of and i'd forgotten what GO was like.
I tried to use GO launcher a while ago, but on the Nook Color, which is really underpowered for such a thing. It didn't run so well and I put it out of my mind.
I downloaded it and started playing with it, and now that I have a piece of hardware that can run it well, it's a fantastic piece of software.
All the different fun options to have it change pages are pretty cool, and my lady was really getting a kick out of it all.
I think I found my new favorite launcher, I just wanted to say thanks for turning me on to it! It really makes the phone fun to play with.
I love the fact that I can have as many desktop screens as I want, and this device can handle quite a few...I now have enough space to never have to go in my app drawer again and not be all cluttered.
Once we get a custom rom, or figure out how to remove Sense itself, this is going to become my permanent launcher. In the meantime i'll keep using it.
I just can't get over how smooth it runs on this device, it really is amazing.
Just wanted to say thanks!
napilopez said:
Question: does having another launcher without uninstalling sense significantly impact performance? I'd rather not have to root and delete sense at the moment.
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I know you also said in your post that you like GO launcher, and i'm definitely a convert now, but if you want something that will give you a significant performance boost, Zeam launcher is the most lightweight launcher on the market.
(maybe MoDaCo's port of the gingerbread launcher is about as fast, it's hard to tell)