Hi,
I have been playing with different roms for years and I am still incredibly unhappy with my TF700T due to performance problems. I knew when I bought it that it had a scant amount of memory for a multicore processor and I believe that is the main problem with the tablet.
I'm getting ready to throw it to the curb, but thought I would post this as one last effort. Is anybody truly happy with it and does it consistently perform well? If so, what are you running? Any references to emulate the setup would be appreciated.
Thanks,
srt42
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srt42 said:
Hi,
I have been playing with different roms for years and I am still incredibly unhappy with my TF700T due to performance problems. I knew when I bought it that it had a scant amount of memory for a multicore processor and I believe that is the main problem with the tablet.
I'm getting ready to throw it to the curb, but thought I would post this as one last effort. Is anybody truly happy with it and does it consistently perform well? If so, what are you running? Any references to emulate the setup would be appreciated.
Thanks,
srt42
Sent from my SM-N920P using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Have you tried out all of the latest custom ROMs like Zombi or Katkiss? Those are the most preferable ROMs that users like....
Have you tested out Cromi-X Resurrected? Please give all of them a try before throwing it away...:laugh:
Yes, I have tried all but katkiss. That will be my last attempt before throwing this POS to the curb.
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srt42 said:
Yes, I have tried all but katkiss. That will be my last attempt before throwing this POS to the curb.
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A lot of users said that it is the best ROMs right now, good lucks.....:fingers-crossed:
You did use Cromi-X "RESURRECTED", NOT Cromi-X, right?
I believe I'm currently running cromi-x resurrected
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I believe I'm currently running cromi-x resurrected
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Did you update the latest patch?
I have a new performance patch and will find sometime to upload it. If you could hold off it a little bit longer, you can test it out to see if it is any better than the current setup.
What are the current issues that you have? I thought that it is running very reasonable speed with the Resurrected.....
Cheers,
LMK
Thanks for responding LMK. When I get home, I'll verify which ROM I'm currently running and give you an update. I was not aware of the patch. The symptom is the usual intermittent sluggishness.
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It won't matter which rom you choose if you are installing to internal. The issue is with the read & write speeds of the internal memory. Install to a good quality high speed SD card & you'll see a huge difference.
LetMeKnow said:
Did you update the latest patch?
I have a new performance patch and will find sometime to upload it. If you could hold off it a little bit longer, you can test it out to see if it is any better than the current setup.
What are the current issues that you have? I thought that it is running very reasonable speed with the Resurrected.....
Cheers,
LMK
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Hey LMK, it still has the ususal TF700 lag. I am travelling right now and whenever I connect to a new wifi and apps pull updates in the background it is practically unuseable. You have to give it 5 minutes to catch up, then it works fine. The same is true if you disconnect wifi during sleep and wake it up - just not as bad if you connet to the same wifi...
I'll flash Katkiss again and give that another whirl, cannot remember if it also had the "wait, wait, I need to pull some data" syndrom...
LetMeKnow said:
Did you update the latest patch?
I have a new performance patch and will find sometime to upload it. If you could hold off it a little bit longer, you can test it out to see if it is any better than the current setup.
What are the current issues that you have? I thought that it is running very reasonable speed with the Resurrected.....
Cheers,
LMK
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I had the non-patched rom. I installed the rc2 and so far it seems fine. But, they all do and then slow over time. Thanks for the feedback!
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I use my $100 HP Touchpad (running Android 4.4) WAY more often than my newer, more expensive, "better" T700. So disappointing.
jbjcurly said:
I use my $100 HP Touchpad (running Android 4.4) WAY more often than my newer, more expensive, "better" T700. So disappointing.
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I bought a chromebook instead
Well, I must say, so far I am very happy with the Katkiss MM Rom. Very snappy. It is managing memory very well. I have been running it for close to a week and so far, knock on wood, I have seen no signs of sluggishness. I'll try to update again in a few weeks.
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I own both a TF700 and a Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2. This is hardly a fair comparison, since the Samsung has 3g of memory rather than the Asus' 1g and faster processor. I still -- perhaps due to my love of small laptops -- think the Asus TF700's outer design and snap-on keyboard are stellar. But alas... the innards are sad, moreso as the tablet ages. I still use mine occasionally, but that Samsung is my go-to Android (and it is getting nearer its end of life cycle). Asus came out with the TF701, of course, and ruined (and I do mean *ruined*) the keyboard design. Massive ineptitude that sent me away from them forever; all they had to do was soup up the TF700s innards and leave the rest alone. Ah, well. If I was buying now... it would be between the Samsung Note Pro 12.2, 10.1 (2014), and Pixel.... though the latter's lack of a micro-sd slot is ridiculous when looking at how well Samsung's tablets handled it. Final note... the Samsung Tabs don't have anything past Lollipop stock... and it isn't the final Lollipop version. But there are (as here) an increasing number of custom Marshmallow versions. Also... Samsung uses bluetooth keyboards but there are some very inexpensive ones (including used Samsung ones and my favorite, the Logitech folder keyboard). Hope this was useful...
Thanks for the feedback. This will be my last Asus tablet. I'll more than likely go with Samsung next time, as you have done. After several weeks, I'm happy again with this tablet. For those looking for a solution to the performance problems, this is the best solution I have found. The TF700T lives on!!
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So I ended up returning my prime after 8 months, and ordered a tf700. It's hard to read up so much in the prime forums and now I'm a newb to these neck of the woods. I don't see much developement going on for the tf700 in the forum, maybe cuz it's still new?
I have read its a pretty solid upgrade from the prime considering the I/O issues I've read about. Having said that, what does it come shipped with? Honecomb? I know its rootable, and unlockable. Theres a working clockwork right?
Any better than stock roms to flash at the moment? Or just wait it out until JB? Thanks fellows...time to read some more
It is completely rootable and unlockable. I believe theres CWM and TWRP. Comes with ICS. Might need to do an update. My personal opinion is to wait for JB.
This probably should be in Q&A also.
Sent from my Transformer Infinity.
The Infinity is at its infancy. So custom roms are still in its early stages and bugs will be evident but this tablet is definitely an upgrade to the Prime which I sold for the Infinity. When I had my Prime I could only get two bars from my bedroom while my router was in the living area. Now I have full freakin bars! GPS is just as accurate and locks on to as many as the Extension kit. It has some performances issues but nothing Jelly Bean can remedy. Battery is ok doesn't last as long compared to Prime, but I'm sure an update or two will fix that. Also it will heat up on you because of that higher res screen. Mine got as high as 108.9° when playing games.
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I updated from the Prime and must say that the Infinity is a huge upgrade. It may not seem like much but the software is faster and the build quality has improved. Stuff like the improved buttons and the change of location of the headphone jack doesn't seem like much, but is well thought out, especially when it is in the dock. And the WiFi performance is 10 times better than the Prime, which is a huge upgrade. I am very pleased with this device and should have been what the Prime was.
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Well, I just got it, powered it on, and boy its friggin laggy. The software on here really sux. Time to root I guess. Won't help much, but whatever
also, should I root now while on 22, or do the .26 ota first?
Same root method for both. .26 fixes alot of the lag.
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ok cool, thanks. I'll do the OTA then figure out root !
chugger93 said:
ok cool, thanks. I'll do the OTA then figure out root !
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Mine is lag free thank god.
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Mine is lag free thank god.
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I OTA'ed and rooted. It was pretty simple. The device defintely seems better now after .26. Then after Nova launcher its even better...
sup people names thizzle, I've been part of these forums for awhile now but also been away for quite some time, the reason im here is to get some info in this device I seen the specs and seen it my self, but I need to know are you guys happy with this tablet?? I want to get a new tablet but have a hard time deciding. thanks
This may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963036
I am happy with the tab. Although I did go through 5 of them before getting a good one.
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sup people names thizzle, I've been part of these forums for awhile now but also been away for quite some time, the reason im here is to get some info in this device I seen the specs and seen it my self, but I need to know are you guys happy with this tablet?? I want to get a new tablet but have a hard time deciding. thanks
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So happy with it, but it's because I unlocked and am running CleanROM v2.4 and clemsyn's latest kernel and my Infinity is a ramjet...
I am happy with my Infinity.
Coming from the ground up
Yes. If your not an XDA champ like us all, probably no.
The community did there magic once again they bailed asus out. ASUS should be kissing the community ass.
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djakx1 said:
This may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963036
I am happy with the tab. Although I did go through 5 of them before getting a good one.
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Good point. There quality control is suspect. My tablet is rock solid. No flexing, no noises when trying to flex. Excellent materials. I do feel bad for some that have a bad experience. I'm thinking some bootleg builds made it out. Buy your tab from a respectable place like best buy!
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Repeat after me:
All...
Android...
Phone...
And...
Tablet...
Junkies...
Should...
Download...
And...
Flash...
A...
New...
Custom...
ROM...
The end...
You forgot phones also
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You forgot phones also
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There...
Fixed
Coming from the ground up
Since i installed cleanROM and clems kernel i'm very happy with my tab.
Envoyé depuis mon Galaxy Nexus avec Tapatalk
since latest OTA(10.4.4.20) i'm quite happy
thizzlemania91 said:
sup people names thizzle, I've been part of these forums for awhile now but also been away for quite some time, the reason im here is to get some info in this device I seen the specs and seen it my self, but I need to know are you guys happy with this tablet?? I want to get a new tablet but have a hard time deciding. thanks
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I'm very happy with mine even though it's still locked and I'm not running CleanRom.
2.4 CleanROM here, no Clemsyn yet (trying 2.4 out for bit first to get some feel for the improvements in fluidity -- the Master himself asked for this ) -- great tablet. Stock is less than impressive, but with some TLC, the 700 is a fiery monster.
I'm very happy with this tablet. With its customized doc it is better than all the other Android tablets out there IMHO.
Asus has released several OTAs, showing they are continually involved in keeping this table up to date.
Add me to the list of happy users. After unlocking, flashing cm10, very satisfied with this!
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Bought mine end of september and got ota to ics immediately and 1 week later ota to jb.
Have no build problems ( very well build) and it was fast and fluid on stock and locked.
Unlocked and rooted after 5 weeks and flashed cleanrom.
Well from the first day I said it is the best device I bought since a long time and for me as business user it's replacing my laptop 90% of the time easily.
The dock and screen are excellent and it is the best choice I made in comparison to other tablets.
No Icrap because it is MY tablet and compared with other tablets it is without competition.
What you want more: Good build quality, very fast and fluid and smooth, excellent dock and screen, very good battery life when on travel (min 14 hrs).
Never thought it was that good :good::good:
It could be better. I'm rooted and debloated but I'm not going to ROM it. I don't want to go down that same path as I did with my phone - too many problems, sleepless nights, headaches, and compromises. I'm done being a nerd.
thizzlemania91 said:
sup people names thizzle, I've been part of these forums for awhile now but also been away for quite some time, the reason im here is to get some info in this device I seen the specs and seen it my self, but I need to know are you guys happy with this tablet?? I want to get a new tablet but have a hard time deciding. thanks
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Hey! Hey!
Out of the box I was happy, I received a good build quality...no squeaky screen, the tab and dock where flawless. (lucky me ).
I was later made much happier by unlocking, rooting, custom recovery and custom ROM......My flavour of choice was CleanROM. Still on 2.3 with Clemsysn's OC and bit depth mods. Also using the Data2SD (enhanced) mod. All of this took a good tablet experience and made it a LOT better.
Now if we could get Samsung's Quality Control to teach Asus how to build a device, and get Asus to teach Samsung how to develop for frequent updates. Match made in heaven. (I hope BOTH Sammysong and Assus are reading this).
CHEERS!
Brad
CleanRom 2.4+Clemsyn kernal=happiness
Stock, nonrooted. I'm perfectly happy with it.
no , i have two problems
1-i can not update camera firmware.it appear and failed on each rebooting time
2-i can not unlock bootloader.it failed with network issue.i get unknown network error
I've had this tablet since Christmas, got it with the keyboard dock and a Poetic case for work (journalism) hoping that it would entirely replace my laptop, which was a beater since my other one broke. Since using it I've overall loved the experience, but I do have a number of gripes.
The Good:
- Keyboard is equally as impressive as any laptop I've used. Responsive, ensures that I can continue to be productive while on the go.
- Battery life is unreal
- Speaker quality equals or betters that of an iPad, hands down.
- For being plastic, the build quality of this thing is awesome.
- ASUS has been nothing but supportive, ensuring that my device is unlocked quickly and under warranty.
- Plays the occasional game well and loads them pretty quickly
- The USB and HDMI outlets, while I haven't used them extensively, are going to come in handy.
- Charges extremely fast
The Bad:
- I can never find the power button in tablet mode. It's ergonomically terrible. And when docked, there's no button to press to turn the screen on quickly (that I know of)
- Despite coming preloaded with JB, this thing lags worse than my HTC Sensation. It's not rooted, but out of the box it lags. Takes like ten seconds to open up Google Now for pete's sake.
- Browser crashes all the time
- Proprietary cable is way too short and proprietary cables blow
- Internet browsing is laggy and slow to load more often than not
- Trackpad on the dock is the worst on any keyboard I've ever used in terms of responsiveness and random touches
- Rooting seems complicated
- The screen is not as sharp or as bright as I expected
Overall: B+
It's more than I could ever expect out of a tablet, to be honest. I probably should have sprung for an UltraBook for my needs, but this will be fun in the meantime. This may be my first tablet, but I can assure you that every tablet I buy from here on out will come with a keyboard. It has given me a good idea of what to look for in a tablet and I really do enjoy using it over any other device I've owned aside from my phone. For all it's specs, performance isn't where it should be, but I have a sneaky suspicion once I root this thing there may still be hope for solving all this lag.
What would you grade this tablet? What are your likes? Dislikes? I'm curious to find out about everyone else's experiences with the 300, and perhaps some helpful advice. Thanks!
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When stock I would say a 6/7 out of 10. Its slow, browser crashes and espesially after Jelly Bean update i decided to unlock and root cause it was a pain to use sometimes. Also alot of problems while typing. Whole sentences are suddenly gone, autocorrect is horrible and anyoing, and sometimes even freezes while im writig.
With Custom ROMs i would say a 8 out of 10. Alot faster and smoother than stock.
Imo, the screen is very good. Compared to TF101, colors are better and brighter.
Buying Quad Core cpu I expected, that EVERY game will run smoothly. I bought Dark Knight and ... zonk, lags everywhere. I thought my Tegra 3 is broken
ok so I agree 1000%. I rooted mine, installed cm10 (not 10.1 yet) along with untermensh's kernel and its freaking lightning fast. it was maybe a C- before. Now it is a solid A!
Even my critical impatient wife loves the tab now.
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ok so I agree 1000%. I rooted mine, installed cm10 (not 10.1 yet) along with untermensh's kernel and its freaking lightning fast. it was maybe a C- before. Now it is a solid A!
Even my critical impatient wife loves the tab now.
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I guess the solution to everything is to root it (as usual). If it gets rid of some of the annoying lag then I'm all for it, because if there's one thing I value over any other feature, it's stability
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monkor said:
I guess the solution to everything is to root it (as usual). If it gets rid of some of the annoying lag then I'm all for it, because if there's one thing I value over any other feature, it's stability
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yea. its sad that we need to void warranties to make the tab perform the way it should have when stock but it is what it is....
Are there any noob guides to root and install a custom ROM on this tablet? I think i may just have to do so to improve the performance as it's terrible at times. I'm on the latest jellybean update by Asus
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UndisputedGuy said:
Are there any noob guides to root and install a custom ROM on this tablet? I think i may just have to do so to improve the performance as it's terrible at times. I'm on the latest jellybean update by Asus
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
Exactly what you need
I'd give this thing a 5 out of 10 on stock. Rooted and with agps flashed and apps to SD its a 11 out of 10. I run clean ROM 3.0.4 and unters 4.4.20 kernal and as I've said before it makes all the difference in the world on this machine. The screen is good but the infinity screen is better however I prefer this to all other tabs currently marketed except Samsung note 10.1 but the note isn't optimized for tegra games so all in all this one won me over
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
Exactly what you need
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Thank you.
conan1600 said:
I'd give this thing a 5 out of 10 on stock. Rooted and with agps flashed and apps to SD its a 11 out of 10. I run clean ROM 3.0.4 and unters 4.4.20 kernal and as I've said before it makes all the difference in the world on this machine. The screen is good but the infinity screen is better however I prefer this to all other tabs currently marketed except Samsung note 10.1 but the note isn't optimized for tegra games so all in all this one won me over
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Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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It makes so much of a difference on mine I could never concieve of loading the stock ROM again. The stock has serious I/o issues bud not to mention all the other crap. Now don't get me wrong there is a down side. On jelly bean u have to unlock so u lose your warranty and that's a risk. It is also a lot of work to install all the ROMs and patches and the first time on any device will scare the bejesus outta any man but when its done, at least for me, its a thing of beauty on this machine in particular. I'd did a lot of research before I got started and finally took the plunge. Course I've done this on several devices but every time is stressful lol. Good luck man for the benchmark scores on my machine just look at the poor androbench scores thread in this section. I just posted pics there that will show you how much of a difference it makes when you root and rom
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P.S. you mentioned lag so I'll let you know browser to ram after you root takes care of that in browsing and as you can see from the screenshots in the other thread the I/o is fixed and or gone around after root and custom ROM installed.
Thanks for the informative reply. I usually use chrome though so I don't think browser2ram will work for that or so I've read.
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UndisputedGuy said:
Thank you.
Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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Yes.
3/10
I've been regretting this purchase since after 1 month of owning it, that why a few months ago I was pretty active on this forum asking questions but since the day I figured out this tablet is what I should not have purchased, I stopped browsing this forum.
I was so sad because I saved my money for months to buy this tablet and what I got wasn't what I expected.
Like you said, this thing lags like crazy, it's because of the I/O issue I believe. Games run laggy, cuz they need to read/write a lot. Copying 100MB takes 10 minutes. I waited for years for it to copy mmy music library to this tablet. Forget about browsing the Web,
I even thought this is an issue with android and I thought I will not ever buy an android device again, until my sister got the galaxy s3 and it's damn fast
Maybe I'll leave a review someday, but basically this tablet is very good, except for the fact that Asus put a cheap slow flash storage in it. If not, I'd rate it 8/10 if there's no i/O issue,
Asus has been known for putting slow flash storage in their devices from the tf201, tf300, even the flagship tf700, and even though the nexus 7 has a faster flash storage that transformers, it's still very slow compared to other tablets.
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I have to agree with other comments here, the stock rom is a piece of crap. Not being able to browse on the stock browser WTF ? I've said this before but Asus REALLY needs to fix their stock rom. If the ROMS from here can make the tablet fly then why can't Asus do it?
I had my tablet for 6 months and only unlocked and flashed TWRP with Cleanroom in the last week. I've now used the tablet more in the last week than I had in the previous 6 months, it's made such a difference. I now enjoy using the tablet rather than wanting to throw it against the wall :silly:
I bought mine with the keyboard dock, it makes the tablet more versatile extends the battery life and with a wireless mouse is almost a notebook / netbook replacement.
I notice the OP wrote the proprietary cable is too short.... you can pick up a 2m cable on eBay or Amazon really cheap, mine was delivered last week. Though the proprietary cable does blow, from what I've read it allows the tablet to be charged quicker than a normal usb cable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Stock rom: 3 out of 10 (Slow, hangs, browser crashes.... piece of crap)
Cleanrom: 10 out of 10 (Everything works perfectly now)
Perhaps the wrong thread but what browser do you guys use on this ROM? I like stock ROM so so much but it doesnt work half the time. Like it doesn't load pages or the back button doesn't return me. Also it can use flash!
I'm gonna start to try use chrome but I like the progress bar. I tried dolphin browser but its not like a conventional browser, doesn't have a back button etc.
Firefox doesn't have an easy add tab button. Same with Opera, don't think its that nippy, hangs n lags.
I found Opera Mobile worked best on the stock rom
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Perhaps the wrong thread but what browser do you guys use on this ROM? I like stock ROM so so much but it doesnt work half the time. Like it doesn't load pages or the back button doesn't return me. Also it can use flash!
I'm gonna start to try use chrome but I like the progress bar. I tried dolphin browser but its not like a conventional browser, doesn't have a back button etc.
Firefox doesn't have an easy add tab button. Same with Opera, don't think its that nippy, hangs n lags.
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i use stock browser on cromi 3.0.4 it works exactly as it should with no lags and flash is smooth.
UndisputedGuy said:
Thank you.
Does a custom ROM really make a big difference? This thing really does lag awfully sometimes on stock and i'm a bit skeptical that it can improve significantly
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I'm on CleanROM 3.0.4 and it's awesome. Sure you'll see difference
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Thanks to everyone in this thread who has helped. I think I will move onto cleanrom after my tablet goes into repairs. Do apps perform better on cleanrom as well? Such as chrome and other things
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I'm looking to get one but I keep reading about problems with lag and the I/o issues and I was wondering if these are still problems or has the updates worked out these kinks?
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I'm looking to get one but I keep reading about problems with lag and the I/o issues and I was wondering if these are still problems or has the updates worked out these kinks?
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Much of the I/O issue is reated to the hardware present in the TF700 -- please read up on the issue since we have gone over this quite a few times. Short answer: no, it will not and cannot ever be fixed, but flashing a custom ROM alleviates many issues to a very acceptable degree. In another thread a user asking essentially the same question was rightfully advised to wait and see whatever new models may come available in the next few weeks to months. (Unless you clearly "need" the battery-powere dock of the TF700 and a FullHD sceen on the side, which would make the Transformer line your only viable option.)
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Much of the I/O issue is reated to the hardware present in the TF700 -- please read up on the issue since we have gone over this quite a few times. Short answer: no, it will not and cannot ever be fixed, but flashing a custom ROM alleviates many issues to a very acceptable degree. In another thread a user asking essentially the same question was rightfully advised to wait and see whatever new models may come available in the next few weeks to months. (Unless you clearly "need" the battery-powere dock of the TF700 and a FullHD sceen on the side, which would make the Transformer line your only viable option.)
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But is it something that really ruins the experience or just a minor nuisance?
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That depends on the user. In my case it was tolerable, realizing the limitations 0f the hardware. I got around to rooting today.
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I'm looking to get one but I keep reading about problems with lag and the I/o issues and I was wondering if these are still problems or has the updates worked out these kinks?
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The issue is not present on some versions of the tablet, I don't know what are the versions but please check the Asus Transformer infinity benchmarking video on youtube by "miniocpro". In this video the I/O appears to be good on Quadrant Standard actually a lot better than the ones on all infinitys i saw.
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But is it something that really ruins the experience or just a minor nuisance?
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In my case only a minor nuisance, but that largely depends on personal preference/perception. There have been a few reports of the issues being perceived as "deal-breaking"...
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The issue is not present on some versions of the tablet, I don't know what are the versions but please check the Asus Transformer infinity benchmarking video on youtube by "miniocpro". In this video the I/O appears to be good on Quadrant Standard actually a lot better than the ones on all infinitys i saw.
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I have never seen a post in here describing the I/O throughput of any Infinity as 'good'. Obviously, as always, your mileage may vary, but in general, it just is not that good.
@OP: I'd buy again, as far as the I/O issue is concerned, provided I could unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM (and possible data2SD) -- these seems to make the user experience a lot better.
I never really paid a whole lot of attention to the I\O complaining.
Not sure slow I\O was causing my initial disappointing experience with the Infinity.
My case the updates worsened the tabs performance...so I threw up my hands and jumped on the Cl-ROM\CROMi train.
I'm a firm believer that too many useless or poorly implemented apps are causing most of the sluggishness with a majority of new users.
I bought one today and it's awesome. Wow, the screen is unbelievable. Coming from the wifi Xoom, this thing is a beast. Very satisfied so far.
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I'm not bothered by it at all. Sure, sometimes the browser seems to hang for a bit when loading a page. My SGS3 does the same thing... So does Firefox on my pc, for that matter. And it takes a whole whopping 0.2 seconds longer to swipe or load an app. I do a fair bit of rendering, understanding is half the battle. I can't be bothered by what I know to be logical. But actual, real lag? No. Never noticed it.
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I'm a firm believer that too many useless or poorly implemented apps are causing most of the sluggishness with a majority of new users.
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This.
New users tend to put every single piece of app junk on their tab, including some seriously heavy and/or incompatible live wallpapers, weather apps, live feeds, motion gallery and an equally insane amount of shortcuts, and then complain about lag. Yea, it doesn't work like that.
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I'm not bothered by it at all. Sure, sometimes the browser seems to hang for a bit when loading a page. My SGS3 does the same thing... So does Firefox on my pc, for that matter. And it takes a whole whopping 0.2 seconds longer to swipe or load an app. I do a fair bit of rendering, understanding is half the battle. I can't be bothered by what I know to be logical. But actual, real lag? No. Never noticed it.
This.
New users tend to put every single piece of app junk on their tab, including some seriously heavy and/or incompatible live wallpapers, weather apps, live feeds, motion gallery and an equally insane amount of shortcuts, and then complain about lag. Yea, it doesn't work like that.
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OT: Haven't seen you around for a while? All good?
The screen is amazing, and that is the selling point for this device, along with the battery-powered dock.
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I bought one today and it's awesome. Wow, the screen is unbelievable. Coming from the wifi Xoom, this thing is a beast. Very satisfied so far.
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Welcome to the tf700 section, pal!
I also came from the Xoom. Hard to believe the incredible difference between the Xoom's crappy screen with lots of ghosting and this mega clear and crips display, huh?
I couldn't be happier with the tf700!
@OP: The I/O issue -if you really even consider that an issue- seems to disappear after having installed a custom ROM, eg. CleanRom. It's boosted the I/O benchmarks (not that I care about those) and more importantly, it makes this device bugless. I swear: not one hiccup in a very long time.
I would only recommend data2sd if you really feel that there is still some kind of issue, but I can't imagine that anyone still notices lag.
I've never given the Xoom a try, was it really that bad?
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OT: Haven't seen you around for a while? All good?
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Life turned into a bit of a "well f*ck you too" moment. Mate of mine hit rock bottom and decided, as the idiot that he is, to spend the week drugged up to his eyeballs on cocaine. And aparently, I'm the only one he tolerates in that state. All good now, more or less.
which do you prefer and why? Team EOS 4 or No-name CM10.1?
which is faster, more stable and with better battery life?
how about bugs?
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which do you prefer and why? Team EOS 4 or No-name CM10.1?
which is faster, more stable and with better battery life?
how about bugs?
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Team EOS 4 of course... stability is assured here.. and with Timburu behind them, it gets even better now.
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Yeah EOS is actually amazing. Blew me away a little. Go for the preview version for now.
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I am using Team EOS4..very smooth and stable without lag.. batteries is good..
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I'm using EOS 4 because I find it virtually flawless when used with Nova. josteink is doing a nice job with his "no-name" too though, and is worth a look if you're a CM fan.
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My "stock" rom, ie stable/maintained/enhanced/feature rich, is EOS since early days of 101. I forgot about Asus' rom, and I'm grateful we got unlock keys for our tablets so early!
As the one maintaining the No-name build, I have to say both are good. And they are different. So it's really just a matter of taste.
Timduru is doing an excellent job with Team EOS 4 and the only reason I'm not using that and instead is maintaining my own build is because I prefer CM-based ROMs.
So I say try both. See which one you like best. You probably wont be disappointed by any of them.
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Yeah EOS is actually amazing. Blew me away a little. Go for the preview version for now.
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why preview version and not the nightly?
does the kernel in EOS works good or should i install kat kernel?
update: nevermind. i'll go for preview with kat kernel.
i am using no-name for a long time now and i think is super. after reading most of the replies here saying about EOS, i will give it a try
Part of the issue is that people (at least myself) have been using EOS for so long that we are kind of entrenched, and EOS4 came out before no-name. Back in the early TF101 JB ROMS, EOS3 had proved to me to be the most fully-functional and stable of the TF101 ROMS, if (maybe) not the smoothest when it came to scrolling through the home screen. I tried them all and I liked them all, but just found EOS the best all-around,
The more recent builds of EOS 4 have been similar for me, very stable, everything that I normally use works fine. Maybe still a very rare screen tear here and there, but no SOD/RR's. I loaded up no-name a few weeks ago and it seemed to work great, but as I was used to my EOS4 set-up, I didn't give it much of an evaluation. It takes me some time to set up my tablet to how I like it, and while it was fun doing so the first 10 times, it's not as much fun as it used to be. I might flash no-name again and see if a data-only nandroid restore of my current set-up works, and give it a more of a run.
The only downside to EOS4 IMO might be that with the nav bar (bottom bar) enabled, home-screen transitions aren't as smooth as I'd expect from jellybean. The plus side is that I learned to stop using the navbar and instead disable it, using LMT pie controls or GMT gestures, both of which work great and allow for more screen real estate. My old TF101 seems to be as fast, smooth and functional as my Nexus 7 or my sister's TF Prime.
These guys have really made my $250 Black Friday tablet into the best bang-for-the-buck gadget I ever bought.
I use the No Name and i like it.
On Team Eos the gapps din't work after 2 installs so i install the no name and everything works best. :good:
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Part of the issue is that people (at least myself) have been using EOS for so long that we are kind of entrenched, and EOS4 came out before no-name. Back in the early TF101 JB ROMS, EOS3 had proved to me to be the most fully-functional and stable of the TF101 ROMS, if (maybe) not the smoothest when it came to scrolling through the home screen. I tried them all and I liked them all, but just found EOS the best all-around,
The more recent builds of EOS 4 have been similar for me, very stable, everything that I normally use works fine. Maybe still a very rare screen tear here and there, but no SOD/RR's. I loaded up no-name a few weeks ago and it seemed to work great, but as I was used to my EOS4 set-up, I didn't give it much of an evaluation. It takes me some time to set up my tablet to how I like it, and while it was fun doing so the first 10 times, it's not as much fun as it used to be. I might flash no-name again and see if a data-only nandroid restore of my current set-up works, and give it a more of a run.
The only downside to EOS4 IMO might be that with the nav bar (bottom bar) enabled, home-screen transitions aren't as smooth as I'd expect from jellybean. The plus side is that I learned to stop using the navbar and instead disable it, using LMT pie controls or GMT gestures, both of which work great and allow for more screen real estate. My old TF101 seems to be as fast, smooth and functional as my Nexus 7 or my sister's TF Prime.
These guys have really made my $250 Black Friday tablet into the best bang-for-the-buck gadget I ever bought.
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Agreed, my tablet now runs better than most new devices with EOS 4. May see some RR if overclocking past 1.4GHz or leaving the SDCARD in the dock when not in use.
semi noobish
Hey guys, semi noob here. I currently have AR on my tablet and i want to upgrade to 4.2. When i started learing to do this i soft bricked my tablet by going from 4.1 to the ARevolution. I would prefer for this not to happen again. So is all i need to do is do a full wipe. then install 4.2 off sd card via CWM? then flash apps etc?
Just follow initial installation intstructions really. And I would recommend using TWRP instead of CWM.
You should install this first, via Goomanager, and when you see that you have that working, you can install this ROM.
Note: if this is the first 4.2 ROM you are installing, beware that you will probably have to do a factory reset to be entirely sure you avoid problems.
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Just follow initial installation intstructions really. And I would recommend using TWRP instead of CWM.
You should install this first, via Goomanager, and when you see that you have that working, you can install this ROM.
Note: if this is the first 4.2 ROM you are installing, beware that you will probably have to do a factory reset to be entirely sure you avoid problems.
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So for some reason i cant "mount sdcard".... Not sure what to do from here...
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So for some reason i cant "mount sdcard".... Not sure what to do from here...
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Not sure where you are in the process... More details?
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Not sure where you are in the process... More details?
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Sorry. I didnt download Goomanager (i am now) basically i had 4.2.2 rom on my sdcard along with gapps. booted into CWM recovery. Wiped data etc, went to instal via sdcard and said that it cant be mounted. IE i can install new room. I can reboot back into my original rom (AR). so i am going to try the goomanager via TWRP
No idea why i couldnt mount sdcard however.
This is one of the reasons twrp is recommended.
It works with both internal and external storage without any nonsense
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Ok i got it. Thank you very much!
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ya that was alot easier. Thanks!
I've used both now and they seem to be the same in terms of speeds
But saying that the speeds are generally rubbish. I've no idea what is going on or if I am expecting too much from this now relatively old tablet and a new OS. Everything seems to lag even on a fresh install.
If the tablet is downloading anything then things grind to a major halt.
I'm pretty sure that ICS wasn't anywhere near as bad as this.
Running games and typing on the keyboard seems to be OK though...just seems to be normal day to day use.
Any ideas ??
Actually now I think about it the slowness only really is visible when there is data flowing. If I turn off WiFi then there doessnt seem to be much sluggishness at all.
Does anyone else get this?