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Did i get a Lemon or the infinity sucks?

Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?

chino145 said:
Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?
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I'm having the same issues. I believe many others are having the same issues. I'm sticking with mine and hope Asus fixes us fast.

Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5

HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.

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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.
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Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.

I like android because of flash supprt and flexibility with the os. If not, i would prob gotten an ipad instead. Not than i am a fan of ios anyhow. What bothers me is the fact that i get a smoother experience with my evo 3d than this. Surely when it loads a page, it stalls for a 2 secs or so. With my evo, nothing similar happens. Besides, multitasking is literally dead on the infinity. Isnt androi supposed to be true multitasking?! Like i said, i have mix feelings

HoushaSen said:
Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.
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Not really. Like I said in another post "erratic". Its an OS problem that will get fixed with updates.

Its a lemon party around here. Heh.
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HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5
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Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise to me.

d14b0ll0s said:
Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise for me.
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Effing casuals(jk). I got under 1290 on my sold prime with Firefox.
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Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html

xRevilatioNx said:
Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html
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Done several cold boots. Also did a couple partition wipes in recovery. A couple factory resets from recovery. Also cleaned cookies, cache, and history from browsers.

soo... should i return and exchange my infinity or are people also experiencing the same thing?

Of course they aren't. The issues that are known for EVERY tablet has already been identified. Time to get your hands on that replacement, unfortunately...

I just got mine today, and when all my apps were being backed into the Infinity (70 apps), I noticed it being laggy too.
Pressing the buttons to switch between Eco Mode or what not, and pressing the Super IPS+ button, it pauses for a second or so before recognizing my finger pressing it.
I returned my TF300T a month ago to wait for this, and that tablet felt a bit better then this.
Also, I love the finish on the back of the tablet, but I've noticed that two lines stick out far more on the back then the rest of the lines.
Anyone experiencing the same stuff too?

It's an Asus thing
I have the original Asus Transformer ( taking delivery of a new Tf700t tomorrow) and I have the same lag. It drives me crazy. Browsers would just hang. I have just installed a new rom update from asus that seems to have fixed the problem. I am going to wait for Jellybean before passing judgement.

For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?

Does your HTC have 1920x1200 pixels to render?
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xMoKax said:
For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?
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I smell butt hurt.
Sent from my 3d porn machine.

jdeoxys said:
I smell butt hurt.
Sent from my 3d porn machine.
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Do you like spamming the threads with posts saying "butt hurt" or posting useless pictures? If you have a problem with a specific user, hit them up with a PM.

Infinity great at first then getting worse with use.

I got rid of my prime for an Infinity and when i first got the infinity, it was flying. Fast, stable, wonderful...especially compared to the prime. After about 1.5 wks of daily use, ive been getting random lock ups and slow downs and have had to reboot or cold boot several times now. I have been very careful to not load too many apps or games and if i think an app or game is causing the problem then i immediately delete it.
I recall this happening to the Prime and am wondering if this is how its going to be with these ASUS tablets? They are so great at first then slow down and become laggy causing the user experience to sufffer greatly. Does anyone think JB is going to fix this problem?

Jelly Bean will make this tablet like BUDDDDER
I would wipe/factory reset
Start of fresh, JB is around the corner.

I keep reading posts about how poor the performance is with the TF700 and I keep wondering if I'm using the same tablet?!?!
Not sure if it's the Zeus ROM or what, but I don't have any performance issues to speak of!
For those having performance issues - maybe try the Zeus ROM and see if that helps (at least until JB comes out)...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

David522d said:
Jelly Bean will make this tablet like BUDDDDER
I would wipe/factory reset
Start of fresh, JB is around the corner.
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We can only hope for the best!
I'm whipping up a list of generic complaints for when the Jellybeans are spilled.
I'm just like everyone else...scouring that play store for the one!
Been unloading a lot of stuff that I thought was groovy.
To me the tab seems the same or a bit better than it's first day in my clutches.
Finally settled on the ICS+ browser...the rest of them have features yet to me cause some frowning.
Heck I dunno...

mines started off smooth as well, then came a lot of freezes and force closings. I did a factory reset about a week ago, and its seems back to the way it originally was. Everything is fine now. I do hope JB comes soon though.
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Well, I was going to say it seems to come and go with mine but I've gotten about 10 browser not responding messages trying to reply. It started off really good when I first go it but it has gotten progressively worse since then. One thing I notice is it seems to be the ads in web pages that kill the browser. I guess that flash is causing the problem? The android browsing experience leaves a lot to be desired.

I call it the Windows XP syndrome.
XP was zippity fast on a clean install, but add a few years into it of loading it with all kinds of applications, AV changes, system restores, repairs, etc.
and you get a XP that takes a good 2-3 minutes post startup to run, and it will slow down over heavy usage.
I also experience this with Firefox in Windows 7, that browser was a beast with all those add-ons and the only browser with a true Ad-blockers, but as Firefox approach version 13, it's become a slug and can't handle many tabs.

I have not noticed a slow down....yet. But I have disabled a lot of crap that seems to start on its own.
This device is now three weeks old or so and there is yet to find a glitch.
A little tweaking goes a long way.

Dee Envy said:
I have not noticed a slow down....yet. But I have disabled a lot of crap that seems to start on its own.
This device is now three weeks old or so and there is yet to find a glitch.
A little tweaking goes a long way.
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The Zeus Rom also removes a lot of bloatware, as you said, don't underestimate how bogged down your system can become with all that stuff running in the background.

Hmmmm....
As one of the un-knowledgeable as far as development:
Would Android being Linux (I guess) be more subject to bugs and failures because it's RAM friendly and lighthearted.
In other words since Android seems less complex would its speed versus hardware cause cross links or file IO failures more readily?
I know Windows has driven me nutz for years...always wanted to try Linux yet never have.
What exactly will JellyBean do?

No problems here. Since last update mine is rock solid stable, and performance is quite good. Had chance to use heavily at a 3 day conference and it was great though battery is not as good as my tf101. Also had my first chance to spend some solid time with an ipad2(not new one) . Utterly worthless. It was soo limited and locked down. Performance was fine but not as good as my infinity. 4x3 sucks.
I'm wondering if those with issues have one or more bad apps installed, I know it's happened to me before. They run crap in background and are not optimized.

Lots of problems here as well. I had actually typed in great detail, all the issues I have come across and the damn browser force closed so I lost everything I typed. My tablets acting up really bad, so I'm gonna end it here. This tf700 is the prime with fixed wifi and a nicer screen... please let JB fix this or its going back to Amazon.... infinity tablet #2.... there won't be a #3 if JB isn't stellar!
So disappointed with Asus...

Thats OK said:
Hmmmm....
As one of the un-knowledgeable as far as development:
Would Android being Linux (I guess) be more subject to bugs and failures because it's RAM friendly and lighthearted.
In other words since Android seems less complex would its speed versus hardware cause cross links or file IO failures more readily?
I know Windows has driven me nutz for years...always wanted to try Linux yet never have.
What exactly will JellyBean do?
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The Linux kernel isn't the problem. I would even say that Linux is more stable than Windows.
Jelly Bean has the target to make Android as smooth as iOS devices.
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JB will make only the transitions smoother, other than that, i don't think we are going to see any performance boost or at least decrease in lags and hickups. This is due to HW to some extent (imho) and yes, the crappy apps.
I can tell you right away that after removing the live wallpaper that i used as workaround for cropped wallpapers in portrait mode, my tablet is now much faster on home screens that it was before. I also went and disabled some of the Asus apps. I know there are probably some other apps that are running in the BG and should be removed, too, but i simply need them, so no options here.
It also seems that factory reset is helping for some people, so maybe i'll give it a try, too, right before the JB update.
I am still on system that came from the factory.
Of course I don't think the tablet is crap, cause it is not, it is great, but it really needs some gentle hands sometimes to get it up to speed.
There is one thing that makes me VERY angry sometimes, so angry that maybe someday the tablet will fly into the wall....
I have enabled the screenshot function of the back button. Well, sometimes, when i want to just go back, "fracking back!", it creates a screenshot, which makes a tablet even more unresponsive. Frack!

I was also having a lot of trouble at first with my Infinity. Then I did a couple of things. One, i got rid of the dual battery widget that I used all the time on my Prime; two, I deleted or disabled every unnecessary app I could find. There are a number of good forum threads that can tell you what to disable. I also settled on Apex Pro Launcher which now seems very stable after deleting dual batter widget.

Mine slowed down after a couple weeks which was very frustrating because I really liked it when I traded my Prime for it. I have moved away from Asus altogether now good luck with jellybean hope it works out for you guys
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ilostmypistons said:
Mine slowed down after a couple weeks which was very frustrating because I really liked it when I traded my Prime for it. I have moved away from Asus altogether now good luck with jellybean hope it works out for you guys
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Buh bye!

I guess i made a big ****ing mistake again, First i got the infinity then i returned it to get the note 10.1 . I was raving and writing positive reviews on that tablet as it is truly a fast tablet, no force close , stereo speaker is loud with good definition then last night i picked up my ipad3 and started browsing , after an hour i went back to my note 10.1 thats when the problem starts as i can now see the how bad 1280x800 resolution is compared to my ipad3 or infinity. So i went back and returned the note for the infinity and now...... after......... couple ....of ....days.........it was ****ing laggy and keeps on force closing browsing is started to became painfully slow , typing is not fun as i keeps on skipping letters as the touch screen is not that responsive. I want to go back to the note but i guess i dont have the guts anymore to returned it again...... Now i'm stuck.
I think the reason why the note is faster is because of its low resolution and why the infinity is slow is because the tegra 3 is not capable enough to handle full hd.........

mywingtophone said:
I think the reason why the note is faster is because of its low resolution and why the infinity is slow is because the tegra 3 is not capable enough to handle full hd.........
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Thats not the only reason, Prime was lower resolution and that device was slow too.

Loading your tablet up with craplets will slow it down.
It's pretty obvious that if it is performing like you want initially after a fresh factory reset, but then after loading it up with stuff it slows down, then it is most likely the stuff you added, not the box itself. It's just like a windows box basically, as someone else noted. Windows machines are a wreck after a while with all the little DLLs, services, drivers, etc that muck up an installation over time. I really have gotten to where I settle on just one or two go to apps in each category rather than install and leave multiple redundant apps on the machine.
I also avoid "freemium" games like the plague. Those things are like user installed malware. They leave stuff running on your machine all the time, pop notifiers, etc.
An occasional reboot or cold boot might be a healthy thing to do, too, since depending on your system config, Android may not be aggressive about reclaiming memory, etc, and you don't want it to hit eMMC as hard since it is slow on the TFs.

Performance and Alternate Firmwares

Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.

If you are unlocked, you can always downgrade to ICS .30, or a custom Rom like cleanrom.

spinaldex said:
Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
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1. ASUS are not quick. Given past performance I don't think there is a chance of seeing an update that will successfully deal with the sluggishness issues.
2. I don't think it will be too long until the first official CM10 builds are released (days/weeks rather than weeks/months). Looking at where they are in development at present I expect the initial releases to be pretty complete. However, until they are released and tested you never know what problems and bugs may be encountered.
3. Your best bet at the moment is CleanROM - its the stock rom with all the bloat removed and some other tweaks to improve performance. Having tried the stock JB release and CleanROM I will say that the performance of CleanROM is way better.

Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.

sbdags said:
Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.

timrock said:
actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.

zenaxe said:
Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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well xda is not the only website where people talk about electronics. I have seen a great number of complaints about this device. And i agree, there could be a very large number of people out there who are happy with their devices and don't have these issues. But it still remains, there are issues.
I can suggest/recommend people to root/unlock their devices, whether they do it or not, thats totally up to them. Before doing so, they should know the risk involved.

I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I really must just be lucky because I honestly have not experienced any of the lag or crashes that other people report. Yeah, transfer speed over USB is unusually slow, but it's still better than what USB 1.1 was
Honestly, from all that I've read, this tab is hit or miss. You will either have an absolute dream machine or you will have a nightmare. If you are #1, congrats and have fun with this beast. If you are #2 and it's too late to return it, try out all the roms and see which you like best. Even though the custom roms are fun on this tablet, I return time after time to just plain ol' rooted de-odexed stock and remove the bloat myself. This has consistently given me the best overall results

It sounds closed minded, but I don't think it's hit or miss. The I/O issue has run in the Transformer line up from the beginning. I was foolish to believe they would get it under control by the TF700. I love the tablet, I do, but its I/O is undeniably terrible. There's times when it runs flawless for me. But there other times where I can't even stand to use it. I haven't had a single freeze or reboot on JB, Just times of slow performance. If this thing had a better I/O, it would be the best damn tablet ever.
I'm really scared for the Vivo tab, it might have an I/O issue too. God forbid you have an I/O issue with Windows....
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Not only is the i/o bad (usually code for slow random read/write), but the sequential read is also horrendous. It takes forever for this tablet to load.
The solution would be more ram or to mount the device on an external microsd with better performance.
That being said the infinitys all weve got for fhd tablets until the bew samsung nexus fhd tablet cominf out next year (which will probably be gimped because google wont allow external storage on nexus devices).
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I never had any problems with my tablet on a stock firmware (latest JB). What annoyed me very much is the slugish performance.
Navigation between screens and applications is annoying. I often use google reader and adobe acrobat to read PDFs, and they were so bad.
I do also have samsung galaxy s3 which flies comparing to TF700. My gf has ipad3 which is uber fast too.
So, I've decided to try out CleanRom and so far it's good. It's definitely faster and more smooth.

I have my tablet now 3 weeks. After byuing it I was 4 days on ICS and then got the update to JB.
The speed difference is immense and I have no sluggishness at all.
Only thing I have is that 1 time it wouldn't come out of deep sleep (had to reboot) and had 1 spontaneous reboot since then.
Froze many bloat apps and that gave the tablet some air to breathe RAM wise.
But stock browser is very fast and last week I could compare it to an Ipad3 and speed is quite the same. It depends more on the Wifi speed available.
Opening apps is instantly and fast so no complaints here.
Strange that the experience of some users is totally different.
But let's say there are now 1 million Infinity's sold, a very minority have probs because (proven) people who have complaints will look for it on the internet and will start complaining there also.
But who has no probs will not come here, for sure the majority of users.
So do not magnify the probs more than needed and do not generalize them.
But for sure complain to ASUS asking for a solution depending of the prob by either replacing the defective unit or come quickly with an software update.
Just my 2c

Worth the upgrade?

I am looking to upgrade from my HP TouchPad running CM10 and am considering buying an Infinity soon as I really like it over the N10 because of the dock. I am however concerned regarding all the lag and I/O comments I read. IMy HP TouchPad running CM10 and primarily it is used when I travel and while watching TV to surf the web and answer emails rather than use my large laptop. I am able to have 8-10 tabs in the stock browser open at a time without really seeing much of an issue. Will this be something I am able to still do with the Infinity or will it cause the browser to constantly crash? I do not play games hardly at all on it and will sometimes watch divx videos while traveling as well. My main worry is about the web browsing experience compared to what I am using now. I hope it will be as good or better so hopefully someone can answer that for me.
Another thing I use a lot is Eye-Fi to transfer all my pictures from my camera to my tablet to look when I am not home. Would transferring large 10MP files to it be an issue? They go pretty fast right now when I transfer them to my Galaxy Nexus.

cccoltsicehockey said:
I am looking to upgrade from my HP TouchPad running CM10 and am considering buying an Infinity soon as I really like it over the N10 because of the dock. I am however concerned regarding all the lag and I/O comments I read. IMy HP TouchPad running CM10 and primarily it is used when I travel and while watching TV to surf the web and answer emails rather than use my large laptop. I am able to have 8-10 tabs in the stock browser open at a time without really seeing much of an issue. Will this be something I am able to still do with the Infinity or will it cause the browser to constantly crash? I do not play games hardly at all on it and will sometimes watch divx videos while traveling as well. My main worry is about the web browsing experience compared to what I am using now. I hope it will be as good or better so hopefully someone can answer that for me.
Another thing I use a lot is Eye-Fi to transfer all my pictures from my camera to my tablet to look when I am not home. Would transferring large 10MP files to it be an issue? They go pretty fast right now when I transfer them to my Galaxy Nexus.
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I can't help you with that Eye-Fi question,
but I can try to answer your upgrade-related question
Anyway, I think that as long as you're experienced in flashing custom roms (in your case, I am sure you are, looking at the Rom you are running ) the I/O issue is no issue at all and most (if not all) lag is gone after installing CleanRom Inheritance.
It really boosts your device, without having to sacrifice battery life!
On top of that, it has also improved video/streaming playback drastically, making this device as top-tier as Asus claimed it is

adelancker said:
I can't help you with that Eye-Fi question,
but I can try to answer your upgrade-related question
Anyway, I think that as long as you're experienced in flashing custom roms (in your case, I am sure you are, looking at the Rom you are running ) the I/O issue is no issue at all and most (if not all) lag is gone after installing CleanRom Inheritance.
It really boosts your device, without having to sacrifice battery life!
On top of that, it has also improved video/streaming playback drastically, making this device as top-tier as Asus claimed it is
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+1. Also disable animation, makes you think you have the fastest tablet in the world!! super snappy!

I'll agree with the above!
There's quite a following going here.
This is a ROM flashers tablet IMO.
For myself I gave up on the OTA's from the manufacturer and started going the route of custom ROMs.
Been extremely happy with the work done in development.
Hope to see you join on!

Ok good to know. I assume then though I will be disappointed until I flash I custom ROM to it then? Will I most likely get a version that I can unlock it with NVFlash out of the box as long as I don't do the updates and unlock/root/flash it right away?

Also any specific reason for CleanROM over CM?

cccoltsicehockey said:
I assume then though I will be disappointed until I flash I custom ROM to it then?
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I would say you may not necessarily be displeased with JellyBean in stock form.
A great number of users are more than happy with this tab in it's pure Android state.
cccoltsicehockey said:
Will I most likely get a version that I can unlock it with NVFlash out of the box as long as I don't do the updates and unlock/root/flash it right away?
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Yes
I will state that you will be able to bring home an ICS 4.03 version with the .26 firmware.
True don't allow OTA updating until you weave thru the NVFlash process.
I wasn't able to do NVFlash because of updating then finding out about it afterward.
Good luck if you decide to leap!

Alright went to Best Buy last night and played with the Infinity for about 30min. It definitely seemed pretty slow compared to my touchpad running CM and it didn't even want to load 3-4 webpages at a time. I did not however get the wait/close pop up at all. The screen was amazing (one major reason for wanting to upgrade, 1024x768 just isn't cutting it anymore) and the keyboard is a lot better to type on than what a lot of people seem to say. It didn't seem overly small to me.
Thats OK said:
Yes
I will state that you will be able to bring home an ICS 4.03 version with the .26 firmware.
True don't allow OTA updating until you weave thru the NVFlash process.
I wasn't able to do NVFlash because of updating then finding out about it afterward.
Good luck if you decide to leap!
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That is great to know I will be able to do the NVFlash though as that is really the only way I would want to root and flash this tablet. I like the fact it can't be bricked doing that.
Is it correct that I have read once I have the blobs from doing NVFlash I can manually upgrade to the most current firmware and NVFlash will still work? If so it seems I will actually finally have made up my mind of what tablet to get.

cccoltsicehockey said:
Also any specific reason for CleanROM over CM?
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Yes, I think it's overal nicer and faster with CR.
Not to mention that it has a bit better implementation with the keyboard dock (if you have decided to buy that). You also get amazing support from the developer of CleanRom and the Rom Installer gives you the ability to choose what you want and what tweaks you like. Therefore, it's really nice to use it.
Besides, sometimes it's handy having the 3 'performance' modes and IPS+ toggle in the notification bar. Asus did some things right, so we should give them credit for that

Thinking about buying a TF700.. Few questions. Need advice

hey you all. im shopping for a used tablet and I have seen a few of these TF700 and also tf300 going online for around $150 10.1 screen.looks like the tf300 is the lower model version
Just wondering how is the community going on here with these tablets? looks like its still going strong and supported!
Anything i should know about these tablets or should I stay away from these. seems like a good tablet for a good price and it also seems these tablets are pretty fast
Thanks for your advice and help!

they are fast for the first month, then go to utter ****. you will have to wipe it clean and fresh install your roms on it biweekly in order for it to be usable. the specs and price are tempting, but the track record of them sucks, avoid at all cost.

iateshaggy said:
they are fast for the first month, then go to utter ****. you will have to wipe it clean and fresh install your roms on it biweekly in order for it to be usable. the specs and price are tempting, but the track record of them sucks, avoid at all cost.
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What about the ME302C asus? I can get one for about the same price. Specs look better and the tablet is newer

do you plan on rooting or romming the tablet or are you happy with stock?

iateshaggy said:
they are fast for the first month, then go to utter ****. you will have to wipe it clean and fresh install your roms on it biweekly in order for it to be usable. the specs and price are tempting, but the track record of them sucks, avoid at all cost.
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iateshaggy said:
do you plan on rooting or romming the tablet or are you happy with stock?
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Rooting custom rom
But I made up my mind. Im going to get the Asus ME302 instead of this. Seems better and same price. But i dont see a section for the 302 device (sad face)

cpugeeker said:
Rooting custom rom
But I made up my mind. Im going to get the Asus ME302 instead of this. Seems better and same price. But i dont see a section for the 302 device (sad face)
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there is a good chance that means there is no development on it, like roms... search for the modding process on what ever you buy before you buy so you don't get disappointed.

iateshaggy said:
there is a good chance that means there is no development on it, like roms... search for the modding process on what ever you buy before you buy so you don't get disappointed.
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there is some threads on it, nevermind non on roms, Geez i really like that tab too

iateshaggy said:
there is a good chance that means there is no development on it, like roms... search for the modding process on what ever you buy before you buy so you don't get disappointed.
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So now my choices are the me301t, tf300

Changed my mind again. i think im going to go with this tablet.. The screen and quad core got my heart, i could get a me302 btu the screen is not as good as this one

go ahead and get a class 10 sd card too then. apparently rom2sd is the only way to get these things to work but i haven't confirmed that first hand...yet.

With the right rom and data2sd (rom2sd is for dual booting - doesn't add anything to performance) the TF700 is a really nice tablet.
But check prices for the TF701. They've been coming down and even with the best custom rom on the TF700, the TF701 is MUCH better even on stock.
But then - the development community around the TF700 is wider, very active, loads of fun and deeply dedicated to make it the best it can be.
Much less going on in the TF701 forums and that it is pretty darn good out of the box probably has a lot to with it.
For the record: I own both and have been tinkering with both for close to 2 and 1 year respectively.

I just got the TF700 after coming from the TF300. I must say while I like the TF700 screen reso, I cannot believe the amount of jittery-ness it has. The TF300 is smooth as butter. But the TF700 has some jittery-ness to it. Even simple things like switching home page you can see a bit of stuttering going on. Opening apps drawer is the same thing. (I'm using apex launcher btw). I'm not a huge gamer. Mainly was gonna use this for development and movies/web browsing. Which is does just fine. I highly recommend the TF701 though. I may just sell both my tablets for the TF701. However, like berndblb said, there is a lot of development going on for the TF700. TF701 is non existent (Too new i guess?)
EDIT: About data2sd, never used it and never had to. Don't know why everyone thinks you absolutely need it. because you dont.

elesbb said:
I just got the TF700 after coming from the TF300. I must say while I like the TF700 screen reso, I cannot believe the amount of jittery-ness it has. The TF300 is smooth as butter. But the TF700 has some jittery-ness to it. Even simple things like switching home page you can see a bit of stuttering going on. Opening apps drawer is the same thing. (I'm using apex launcher btw). I'm not a huge gamer. Mainly was gonna use this for development and movies/web browsing. Which is does just fine. I highly recommend the TF701 though. I may just sell both my tablets for the TF701. However, like berndblb said, there is a lot of development going on for the TF700. TF701 is non existent (Too new i guess?)
EDIT: About data2sd, never used it and never had to. Don't know why everyone thinks you absolutely need it. because you dont.
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Well - non-existent is a bit harsh. pershoot is maintaining CM and sbdags has a CROMi-X for the 701. There's another unofficial AOSP that I have not tried.
If you never tried data2sd you don't know what you're missing
Especially on the TF700 with it's slow emmc (did you say jittery-ness, did you mention stuttering? LOL) it does make quite a difference.

berndblb said:
Well - non-existent is a bit harsh. pershoot is maintaining CM and sbdags has a CROMi-X for the 701. There's another unofficial AOSP that I have not tried.
If you never tried data2sd you don't know what you're missing
Especially on the TF700 with it's slow emmc (did you say jittery-ness, did you mention stuttering? LOL) it does make quite a difference.
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Yeah I guess non-existent is a bit harsh . Pershoot is doing a great job from what it looks. I am trying to stick with LP for my development device to make sure my apps work on the latest version of Android.
And when I said jittery-ness, its seems more GPU related then writing to the memory blocks. Like simply switching home pages, how's that related to writing to memory?

came across a asus 301T for $75.. are those any good?